Nice video. You commented that the response is not exactly how you would write it. To improve this you need to create example responses, ie. how you would write it. Then it should follow your pattern.
That was a very clear description. I have a lot of exemplar material that I will try to train my own gpt. Fortunately as long as I annonymise student work I can upload it in my jurisdiction.
Excellent, and thank you. So, presumably the workbook was hand written and ChatGTP is able to decipher the writing? If so, I plan to try something like this for the fall semester for some short-answer hand-written classroom quizzes.
🙏 Let me know if you're tempted to write up your experiences as a short blog post as I'm always looking for guest post to help spread insights into AI :)
Useful suggestions here thanks - may I ask why you didn’t create a GPT so the prompt and rubric are remembered and can be reused for future assessment windows?
Hi @andydragonfisher6900 - thanks, and a great suggestion/comment... and maybe a topic to explore in another video 🤔. Tbh, I haven't had the best results when trying to build custom GPTs, which I suspect is due to a lack of skill on my part rather than anything to do with OpenAI :) If you've had any luck please share :)
@@BronEager well, I’m a secondary school teacher based in the UK and for me, while it is onerous, I have to do the marking myself because it helps me plan/direct my future lessons based on what the pupils’ area of need seems to be. I have, however, successfully used a GPT for report writing with success. Very happy to share that with you and/or have an online call sometime if it is helpful. I’m in the process of putting together a 2 year AI program for my pupils as an alternative to IGCSE studies so I’m very interested in any innovations like this :)
Hi, Yes, I was using GPT-4 in the video. OpenAI just released GPT-4o, which is supposed to be better and it's currently free (which is rather exciting).
I have 80 pages of reading, and now I got to answer 18 muiltiple choice questions based on that reading. Is it possible to copy and paste each and every page, one by one, and then ask those questions?
If you're asking whether chatbots have the functionality to upload 80-page documents and then answer questions based on the content of the document, then the answer is yes, some do. For example Google's NotebookLM allows up to 50 uploads (each with a max of 500,000 words). Check out this blog post I wrote about NotebookLM: broneager.com/ai-literature-review-notebooklm
In what sense? In terms of uploading documents to ChatGPT it will depend on your plan. However, if you're referring to whether you're allowed to do this at your university/school, you'll need to check the AI policies and guidelines to ensure you're in line with your employer's policies.
I think significant work is needed to establish if GPT can grade consistently and give precise feedback that will help the students go forward. To be honest, the feedback in this video is drivel: very saccharine, generic and vague.
Imagine being a student and being told not to use AI in your assignments, and then having your tutor use AI to mark your assignments. Pedagogy truly is dead. Also, this method is flawed. Ask ChatGPT to remark an assignment, and you will get a completely different mark.
Could you explain how you arrived at this conclusion. I'm in charge of an AI Task Team at my university, with the mission of figuring out what the fizz we are supposed to do with or about AI. So I'm curious about both the positive and negative viewpoints.
Nice video. You commented that the response is not exactly how you would write it. To improve this you need to create example responses, ie. how you would write it. Then it should follow your pattern.
That was a very clear description. I have a lot of exemplar material that I will try to train my own gpt. Fortunately as long as I annonymise student work I can upload it in my jurisdiction.
Have you compared your results from this to using NotebookLM ? Might be worth comparing
Excellent, and thank you. So, presumably the workbook was hand written and ChatGTP is able to decipher the writing? If so, I plan to try something like this for the fall semester for some short-answer hand-written classroom quizzes.
🙏 Let me know if you're tempted to write up your experiences as a short blog post as I'm always looking for guest post to help spread insights into AI :)
great! thank you!!!!
Useful suggestions here thanks - may I ask why you didn’t create a GPT so the prompt and rubric are remembered and can be reused for future assessment windows?
Hi @andydragonfisher6900 - thanks, and a great suggestion/comment... and maybe a topic to explore in another video 🤔. Tbh, I haven't had the best results when trying to build custom GPTs, which I suspect is due to a lack of skill on my part rather than anything to do with OpenAI :) If you've had any luck please share :)
@@BronEager well, I’m a secondary school teacher based in the UK and for me, while it is onerous, I have to do the marking myself because it helps me plan/direct my future lessons based on what the pupils’ area of need seems to be. I have, however, successfully used a GPT for report writing with success. Very happy to share that with you and/or have an online call sometime if it is helpful. I’m in the process of putting together a 2 year AI program for my pupils as an alternative to IGCSE studies so I’m very interested in any innovations like this :)
This is subscription version of ChatGPT I think - is that correct?
Hi, Yes, I was using GPT-4 in the video. OpenAI just released GPT-4o, which is supposed to be better and it's currently free (which is rather exciting).
I have 80 pages of reading, and now I got to answer 18 muiltiple choice questions based on that reading. Is it possible to copy and paste each and every page, one by one, and then ask those questions?
If you're asking whether chatbots have the functionality to upload 80-page documents and then answer questions based on the content of the document, then the answer is yes, some do. For example Google's NotebookLM allows up to 50 uploads (each with a max of 500,000 words). Check out this blog post I wrote about NotebookLM: broneager.com/ai-literature-review-notebooklm
how many times r we allowed to use chatgpt to do what you have done?
In what sense? In terms of uploading documents to ChatGPT it will depend on your plan. However, if you're referring to whether you're allowed to do this at your university/school, you'll need to check the AI policies and guidelines to ensure you're in line with your employer's policies.
I think significant work is needed to establish if GPT can grade consistently and give precise feedback that will help the students go forward. To be honest, the feedback in this video is drivel: very saccharine, generic and vague.
Exactly the garbage that students hand in when they use GPT. It's insane.
Be nice. Bron has given up a lot of time to share her research with us. Emotive words like drivel are not helpful.
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Imagine being a student and being told not to use AI in your assignments, and then having your tutor use AI to mark your assignments. Pedagogy truly is dead.
Also, this method is flawed. Ask ChatGPT to remark an assignment, and you will get a completely different mark.
Could you explain how you arrived at this conclusion. I'm in charge of an AI Task Team at my university, with the mission of figuring out what the fizz we are supposed to do with or about AI.
So I'm curious about both the positive and negative viewpoints.