You must live in an area that will never grow, $30 is just lunch where I'm from rent will shoot up $1000 overnight and will go down $30 to persuade people to rent that property
No. What she will do is put that charge in the lease. She could lower the bill $10 per month or just add it in as the tenant's responsibility. Problem is the tenant was not notified of this.
So the landlord don't know about it and then it was the only way to install it and then at the end she admits it being hooked up wrong from the start and they knew. Hummmmm
And that's the basis to sue for even more than financial loss. Extortion, blah blah blah. There is definitely something illegal about it, and since they have now admitted to doing this and knowing about this, big problems.
@@Kingspadeb / That's why they offered the money back. Next tenant who moves in will probably have a lease notifying them of the charge. Most people do not read the lease. They may be sneaky with it again or be honest..
I don't care if that thing is $0.50, $5.00, $50.00. It shouldn't be connected to your property, and you should be notified. What wrong is wrong. $10.00 might not be anything. But in a year that's $120.00 a year. That's enough for a month of food for some deperate families.
Steve _"Thats like 3 days of food lmao a week of food is like 400 dollars"_ 10 lbs of potatoes cost $5, and chicken thighs are as cheap as $1/lb. You telling me you can eat 800 pounds of potatoes in a week?!
@@belindaphillips2779 your a dumb ass. You pay attention They turned off all the breakers and it went off. All lights in a home are not on 1 breaker for conveinence of repairs and the fact that it would overload the breaker. Point is don't be a dick if you dont know what your talking about
@Gazz_TFP you dont get retired dipshit. You retire bc You have worked to such an age that allows you to. My guess is you dont know anything about work.
Dont Tread On Me that is a pretty small apartment and all the lights could be on one breaker. It is still ridiculous to suggest turning off the breaker because we don't know what it is connected to... it may be connected to her security system, her lights, etc.
I lived in an apartment, back in 2000-2004 and I was having issue with electricity, well we shut it off, because I needed to replace a plug in and for some odd reason, the hallway lights went out, at the same time. Yea, I was paying to light up the hallways and the front and rear entrances, I was so mad, my landlord decided, instead of me calling the law, she ever so kindly decided my rent was $50.00 cheaper, every month
$10 a month? That appears to be at least a 250W metal halide fixture. That's what, about 75kwh a month? So actually that appears to be reasonably accurate. However it is still theft and illegal. Such items need to be separately supplied and metered from a "house panel". However they could switch it out for a new LED fixture and cut the cost down to about $3-4/month. Then add it to the lease agreement. Edit: In looking at the picture further I am revising my thought on lamping to el-cheapo sodium rather than almost-as-cheap metal halide. Light is not blue enough for metal halide. Well, unless they adjusted the color of the still picture anyway.
Its not from Home Depot. They bought the light from Home Depot but the manufacture of light is providing the estimate on cost. I don't know what they are talking about. HD does not give estimates on lights.
This is an easy calculation ... (kilowatts) x (hours) x (electric rate) ... let's say you left a 100W light on when you went on a two-week vacation ... 0.1 kW x 336 hrs x $0.15 per kW-hr = $5.04 cost ... easy enough for a typical Home Depot employee to figure out if they have a high school diploma ...
Same thing happened to us years ago. Our electric bill was insane from just one bulb. I borrowed a ladder and took the bulb. For the rest of the 5 years we lived there, the bulb was never replaced but that didn't stop the landlord from charging us way too much on water. 4 homes were on 1 bill and one of my neighbors had her nieces and nephews and grandchildren coming over and doing laundry, taking showers and at one point had 6 people living in her place. I cut back on showers for my family, only did laundry once a week and only flushed for #2's (with water jugs filled from my husbands job) but landlord still asked for higher water bill. Told him what I've done to cut way back in water usage and he finally made her pay more than us but our bill was still higher due to our neighbor.
I know this is a very old comment to reply to, but the principle is still and always should apply... Why were you paying for water usage through the landlord? If you're paying for something that varies on a month to month basis, you should be paying it directly to the utility company in question, otherwise there's no way to know if you're being overcharged. Plus, just like in your case, your only recourse to have it checked out was through the landlord, but if you were paying the bill directly to the water company, they'd be able to find out why your bill was too high. If there's only one meter for a multi family dwelling, you're completely at the mercy of your landlord. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if that kind of arrangement was illegal, but if it isn't, I'll bet it's in direct violation of the utility provider's terms of service. Wouldn't such an arrangement would make the landlord a sub-contractor? He's buying water and electricity from a utility company, and then he's reselling it to the tenants.
I was in an apartment on the top floor over a building that had 3 businesses. I was responsible for the electric bill. Winter came and the power bill skyrocketed. I discovered that all the employees parking in the staff lot were plugging in their car block heaters and that the line for that was hooked into MY meter. I found which breaker switch to turn off the power to those ones. Thos people were upset and insisted I turn it back on but I refused. So one of them got the landlord to do it. I again immediately turned it off and told him that if he turned it back on I was going to report him for theft because the power bill was in my name. After that those people had to go out and periodically start their cars to keep them from freezing up. Temperature in the daytime in winter would average -40 Celsius and at night could go down much worse. Obviously having about 20 cars plugged in for 9-10 hours a day and more, was a huge drain on my electricity consumption. I also found out that the restaurant directly under me was on my water line but I couldn't stop them so I made arrangements to get the bill reduced accordingly. The nerve of some landlords.
The tenant certainly has a claim for reimbursement and the electrician who claimed that installation was the only way to connect the light was clearly wrong.
"Clearly wrong" Never been to building. Im sure the problem was he would have to run such a long line that it would costs thousands. "tenant certainly has a claim for reimbursement" That's why they reimbursed her. I bet that when this ended and she left the new tenant is paying for the light.
There might not be a 'House' meter (and panel) to connect to... But that is no reason the Tenant should pay without compensation. BTW in many jurisdictions, there are Tiers for utility usage. That light might have pushed the charges into the higher tier
We had to have our outside plug blocked because people kept using the plug. This one time they used the entirety of our empower- a contractor for someone nearby. It was a nightmare and- while the guy claimed he'd pay it he didn't. We ended up spending months slowly paying off a friend for the loan that they gave us to cover electricity on empower till better half got paid. This was something like six years ago. The plug is still blocked. Couple years ago we stopped an ex neighbor with an extension cord from un blocking it with wire cutters and had to call our land lord to re block it off. They legit just gave no fucks. Didn't want to use there own. Even tried to play like asking after trying to steal and damaging property made it OK. It really doesn't.
This is New Mexico. Solar would work just fine, and of course you would need LEDs . Its 2018, you can get LED street lights for under $100. I just looked at home depot and you can actually get the entire light assembly with solar panel on top for $200. That $10 a month is paid off in 20 months.
Would be a shitload of solar panels to provide 2-3 kWh every single night to one stupid light bulb , The reason it's so expensive is because they cheaped out and didn't bother installing a low power LED light
After two or three months of staggering bills in my new apartment in Chicago, I investigated a bit. The wiring for the stairwells, the porchlights, and the laundry room were connected to my panel. I di not pay another dime in rent and looked for a new place. Landlord was advised by her attorney to leave me be and not pursue any back rent.
What about liability issues? What if the renter's electricity is cut and because the light doesn't work and heaven forbid some one is hurt as a result of poor lighting who is liable here? It could be argued by the property owners that the responsibility went to the renter because they paid the renter to take over that responsibility of that light.
thats not an okay thing to do, cutting a live wire can easily kill someone. Even if its turned off and then you cut it, you'll have to turn it back on leaving exposed wires that can start a fire...
@@adaster98 Because HD does not provide specs on light bulbs.. The manufacture does. If you asked an employee at HD "how much energy does this light take".. The employee will simply read the packaging.
This is one apartment complex I would avoid like the plague. They're willing to have somebody else pay for the electricity, but when that tenant does not want to they turn it off. Now the apartment complex don't want to pay for the electricity for the so-called light. Something smells rotten!
here's a fix the apartment hooks up the light to their electricity and pays for it but notice what they said the apartment complex will credit the person that's paying the light in another words they'll wait till the stuff calms down and then not say anything to the person that's renting that apartment
i had a simular thing happen to me. i too live on a fix income in an apartment. my water bill for a 1 bedroom appartment is usually like $17 a month. Then one month...it was like $140. It took me months to finally get that bill away. I refused to pay more then $17 so let the $123 carry over each month. Had the appartment's maitence check for leaks twice. They didnt find one. It was mathmatically impossible for me to use that much in a 1 bedroom/bath apartment with one tennant. if it was double i could understand. the next month...besides the the $123 that carried over, bill was normal luckily the water company realized it mustve been a mistake on their end and dropped that $123
I’d leave the light off, when the residents complain tell them that you’ll put it back on if they all pay you $10 per month, then your be quids in. Who’s the full then . Good luck
@@craigjensen6853 maybe easier, but a voltage spike is harder to prove as vandalism. If they keep replacing the lamp, keep frying it. I could do it by backfeeding 240V to it, making sure nothing else in the house was on at the time (all other breakers off), and everything else removed from the 240V circuit except that outdoor lamp. A simple 120V to 240V voltage converter using power from a 12V to 120V inverter should do the trick... a "suicide" (backfeed) cord is needed too. Frie dat sum bich.
Ms Roland shouldve never been paying for the light. Nor the other renter before her! How shady is that manager for not disclosing that info? Shame on you!
Home Depot probably did not know the cost-- just guessed at it. Several factors would be necessary to know calculate the actual cost. Mercury vapor, now no longer manufactured, is very expensive and would cost more than $10.00 per month. Longer nights would cost more also.
The US is a strange place. We have 50 different states with 50 different sets of laws. In some states this may be illegal and in some other states it may just be a private dispute that would have to be dealt in small claims court.
what about the past renters. Now that the landlord has to pay, safety is no longer an issue, Stealing is a crime, no dought about it. Of course its illegal. If she was stealing the landlords light she would be in jail.
Well no. You do not go to jail for something like that. She would of been charged as the landlord was. The landlord said she recently put that in. We do not know if any other tenants lived there and we have no way of finding out or proving it.
Similar thing happened to me when we rented an apartment that was part of a house, the lights in the basement were on my breaker box, they were rarely used but that wasn't the point. Luckily I was able to move shortly after making the discovery.
Now it makes me wonder if they were doing this to me when I lived in an apartment. They had lights outside every apartment building that came on when it got dark. However, I lived near Salt Lake City and to the East we have mountains so the bulb was on even during most of the daytime because my apartment faced East. My electricity always came out to a minimum of $70 a month even though I never turned on my heater and my only appliances was the water heater, fridge, stove, internet router, laptop, and some LED bulbs. My water was always high as well but I didn't complain about that because it was on the lease that we shared water bills. Basically the whole building had one water meter and we all split the costs.I lived alone but my water bill always came out to $40+.
Sounds like the landlord didn't want to pay the extra cost to do it right in the first place. Quoting the 'electrician' as saying "it's the only ways it can be done" means it's the only way for what the landlord wanted to pay.
2:30 If the electrician said it's the only way then they are a scum bag. I'm an electrician and there are a thousand ways it could have been done differently.
@@antoniojmonetti to the "house pannel" where are the other power from lights and alarms and fire alarms and whatnot that is not a part of the tenants power.
Shark But if you turn the breaker off, you turn off the parking lot light (and they live in a bad neighborhood). It seems like the better solution is to take this situation to the city and hopefully they'd force the landlord to properly resolve the problem by rewiring the parking lot light to the complex's electrical system. In short, turning off the light just doesn't seem like a good solution due to the consequences of not having that light.
The breaker is probably not just that light, it also covers a portion of her apartment. If she just turns the breaker off, it may kill her bathroom lights or the refrigerator or something else she wants power to like that glorious fish habitat at 0:48.
ONLY 7.50 OR SO? ... id'd be pissed, that's 7.50 than what she should be paying! my electric is only like 45 a month, so 7.50'ish would be almost 25% more ... the manager should reimburse her plus interest
A 7.50 a month is for led and newer fixtures. B common areas are not on tennant electricity legally C this is not the only way, just the cheapest way. D. The installation is not to code since the connector used is for a box, not a turn, and there is no box present on the wall
Same!!! I only had 1 ac in my apartment but one bill was worth 4months worth. I questioned them if the construction for that month or the hallway lights were mistakenly tapped to mine. Whatever
If that light is 250 watts like a powerful HID light usually is at smallest for outside area lighting then that is kWh=1000 watts per hour=rate of electricity per hour (.08 -.25+ cents). So that's 250 x 4 hours=1000 watts= 1 kWh . So lets assume this is .10 cents per kWh. That light bulb alone if on all the time due to breaker being on will cost .10 cents every 4 hours. .60 cents per day times 30 days is $18 flat alone for that light. If she is on a fixed income of $500-1000 or less that brings a $100 utility bill to be a little more unbearable.
Quick math on electricity cost Assuming what appears to a 150 Watts light sodium light with 40 watts ballast. Work appears to done on the cheap. Electric rate (maybe different there but here at off peak 11.5 /kw md peak 14.8 > quick cal we use off peak for night winter operation will be more. .115 X .190 x12 hours of night x 30 days = $7.87 by code in ont. light should be on separate breaker. By rights on complex breaker >>> i'm sure that there are building codes to that. Legally tenant pay for own use electricity > complex is guilty of theft.
The power company would have put a meter in no questions. There is already a service to feed the apartments. The electrician work would have cost more though. Not as simple as drilling a hole in the wall and tapping off a random wire. Most power companies will even put in a pole and light for a yearly/monthly fee. They are a power companies, thats how they make money. They will stick one in your back yard if you're willing to pay for it. She was just trying to save a nickel.
There's more to this story than a single light. Tenant was looking for an excuse to get out of lease and found it even tho landlord offered reimbursement.
AgnotologyTV They "made it right" by reimbursing her after she found out & put her complaint on TV. Then they "made it right" again by disconnecting the light on the parking lot. Sounds like your idea of "making it right" consists of sleazy people getting caught & being too cheap to do the right thing.
Well, you know what wattage the bulb is. You know how many hours it's on for. So you can work out how much energy it uses a month and work out a cost and knock it off her rent. Everyone's happy. Even give her a refund for the months so far. As a woman who's using crutches she should be right alongside the idea of a well-lit exterior to her home.
Yeah right, she'll credit future renters $10.00/mo AFTER she raises the rent on that apartment $30.00/mo.
Schlomo Goldberg renters always get bombed, I used and still see it all the time.
You must live in an area that will never grow, $30 is just lunch where I'm from rent will shoot up $1000 overnight and will go down $30 to persuade people to rent that property
Renters are dumb, you might as well just put a down payment on a house tbh
No. What she will do is put that charge in the lease. She could lower the bill $10 per month or just add it in as the tenant's responsibility.
Problem is the tenant was not notified of this.
So the landlord don't know about it and then it was the only way to install it and then at the end she admits it being hooked up wrong from the start and they knew. Hummmmm
And that's the basis to sue for even more than financial loss. Extortion, blah blah blah. There is definitely something illegal about it, and since they have now admitted to doing this and knowing about this, big problems.
@@Kingspadeb / That's why they offered the money back. Next tenant who moves in will probably have a lease notifying them of the charge. Most people do not read the lease. They may be sneaky with it again or be honest..
I don't care if that thing is $0.50, $5.00, $50.00.
It shouldn't be connected to your property, and you should be notified.
What wrong is wrong.
$10.00 might not be anything. But in a year that's $120.00 a year. That's enough for a month of food for some deperate families.
She doesn't own the place she's just renting
doesnt matter, its not part of the rental clause. its illegal for the landlord to do that.
Allen Han A month of food? Thats like 3 days of food lmao a week of food is like 400 dollars
コールマンジョシュア a family of 4 in arizona
Steve
_"Thats like 3 days of food lmao a week of food is like 400 dollars"_
10 lbs of potatoes cost $5, and chicken thighs are as cheap as $1/lb.
You telling me you can eat 800 pounds of potatoes in a week?!
I'm a retired electrician,, this is a frkn NO Brainer,,, TURN OFF the breaker that supplies the light!!!
Duh all the lights are on one breaker...pay attention
@@belindaphillips2779 your a dumb ass. You pay attention They turned off all the breakers and it went off. All lights in a home are not on 1 breaker for conveinence of repairs and the fact that it would overload the breaker. Point is don't be a dick if you dont know what your talking about
@Gazz_TFP you dont get retired dipshit. You retire bc You have worked to such an age that allows you to. My guess is you dont know anything about work.
I agree with you sir. Probanly only an outlet or 2 connected in the circut.
Dont Tread On Me that is a pretty small apartment and all the lights could be on one breaker. It is still ridiculous to suggest turning off the breaker because we don't know what it is connected to... it may be connected to her security system, her lights, etc.
I lived in an apartment, back in 2000-2004 and I was having issue with electricity, well we shut it off, because I needed to replace a plug in and for some odd reason, the hallway lights went out, at the same time. Yea, I was paying to light up the hallways and the front and rear entrances, I was so mad, my landlord decided, instead of me calling the law, she ever so kindly decided my rent was $50.00 cheaper, every month
$10 a month? That appears to be at least a 250W metal halide fixture. That's what, about 75kwh a month? So actually that appears to be reasonably accurate. However it is still theft and illegal. Such items need to be separately supplied and metered from a "house panel". However they could switch it out for a new LED fixture and cut the cost down to about $3-4/month. Then add it to the lease agreement.
Edit: In looking at the picture further I am revising my thought on lamping to el-cheapo sodium rather than almost-as-cheap metal halide. Light is not blue enough for metal halide. Well, unless they adjusted the color of the still picture anyway.
Bigrignohio HPS for sure
Imagine how many other places this happens and people have no idea it is going on.
I got 99 problems but a parking lamp ain't one.
LMFAO An estimate from homdepot 😂
Its not from Home Depot. They bought the light from Home Depot but the manufacture of light is providing the estimate on cost. I don't know what they are talking about. HD does not give estimates on lights.
This is an easy calculation ... (kilowatts) x (hours) x (electric rate) ... let's say you left a 100W light on when you went on a two-week vacation ... 0.1 kW x 336 hrs x $0.15 per kW-hr = $5.04 cost ... easy enough for a typical Home Depot employee to figure out if they have a high school diploma ...
Same thing happened to us years ago. Our electric bill was insane from just one bulb. I borrowed a ladder and took the bulb. For the rest of the 5 years we lived there, the bulb was never replaced but that didn't stop the landlord from charging us way too much on water. 4 homes were on 1 bill and one of my neighbors had her nieces and nephews and grandchildren coming over and doing laundry, taking showers and at one point had 6 people living in her place. I cut back on showers for my family, only did laundry once a week and only flushed for #2's (with water jugs filled from my husbands job) but landlord still asked for higher water bill. Told him what I've done to cut way back in water usage and he finally made her pay more than us but our bill was still higher due to our neighbor.
I know this is a very old comment to reply to, but the principle is still and always should apply... Why were you paying for water usage through the landlord? If you're paying for something that varies on a month to month basis, you should be paying it directly to the utility company in question, otherwise there's no way to know if you're being overcharged. Plus, just like in your case, your only recourse to have it checked out was through the landlord, but if you were paying the bill directly to the water company, they'd be able to find out why your bill was too high. If there's only one meter for a multi family dwelling, you're completely at the mercy of your landlord. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if that kind of arrangement was illegal, but if it isn't, I'll bet it's in direct violation of the utility provider's terms of service. Wouldn't such an arrangement would make the landlord a sub-contractor? He's buying water and electricity from a utility company, and then he's reselling it to the tenants.
They need to find the electric company that installed this and fire the person that did it. That's not even up to code to tap that into an apartment.
It was the illegal maint guy who did the work
I was in an apartment on the top floor over a building that had 3 businesses. I was responsible for the electric bill. Winter came and the power bill skyrocketed. I discovered that all the employees parking in the staff lot were plugging in their car block heaters and that the line for that was hooked into MY meter. I found which breaker switch to turn off the power to those ones. Thos people were upset and insisted I turn it back on but I refused. So one of them got the landlord to do it. I again immediately turned it off and told him that if he turned it back on I was going to report him for theft because the power bill was in my name. After that those people had to go out and periodically start their cars to keep them from freezing up. Temperature in the daytime in winter would average -40 Celsius and at night could go down much worse. Obviously having about 20 cars plugged in for 9-10 hours a day and more, was a huge drain on my electricity consumption. I also found out that the restaurant directly under me was on my water line but I couldn't stop them so I made arrangements to get the bill reduced accordingly. The nerve of some landlords.
Damn that place is shitty.
The tenant certainly has a claim for reimbursement and the electrician who claimed that installation was the only way to connect the light was clearly wrong.
The apartment owner probably budgeted $100 for the light and installation.
"Clearly wrong"
Never been to building.
Im sure the problem was he would have to run such a long line that it would costs thousands.
"tenant certainly has a claim for reimbursement"
That's why they reimbursed her. I bet that when this ended and she left the new tenant is paying for the light.
There might not be a 'House' meter (and panel) to connect to... But that is no reason the Tenant should pay without compensation.
BTW in many jurisdictions, there are Tiers for utility usage. That light might have pushed the charges into the higher tier
We had to have our outside plug blocked because people kept using the plug. This one time they used the entirety of our empower- a contractor for someone nearby. It was a nightmare and- while the guy claimed he'd pay it he didn't.
We ended up spending months slowly paying off a friend for the loan that they gave us to cover electricity on empower till better half got paid. This was something like six years ago.
The plug is still blocked. Couple years ago we stopped an ex neighbor with an extension cord from un blocking it with wire cutters and had to call our land lord to re block it off.
They legit just gave no fucks. Didn't want to use there own. Even tried to play like asking after trying to steal and damaging property made it OK. It really doesn't.
Should use solar to charge the light.
This is New Mexico. Solar would work just fine, and of course you would need LEDs . Its 2018, you can get LED street lights for under $100. I just looked at home depot and you can actually get the entire light assembly with solar panel on top for $200. That $10 a month is paid off in 20 months.
Sherloid Bai that obviously depends on the quality and spec of your solar light setup.
Sherloid Bai I have little doubt a grid based solution would be cheapest and most practical.
Would be a shitload of solar panels to provide 2-3 kWh every single night to one stupid light bulb , The reason it's so expensive is because they cheaped out and didn't bother installing a low power LED light
@@Inbal_Feuchtwanger
They said they put it up 4 years ago? Right? This video is in 2014.. That's 2000.
After two or three months of staggering bills in my new apartment in Chicago, I investigated a bit. The wiring for the stairwells, the porchlights, and the laundry room were connected to my panel. I di not pay another dime in rent and looked for a new place. Landlord was advised by her attorney to leave me be and not pursue any back rent.
How about just lowering the rent 10$ a month to compensate the renter so instead of rent being 425 it is 415 a month
doz222
Sounds good, but this can't be the only way she rips people off and it would be a cover up. She needs to be held accountable...
What about liability issues? What if the renter's electricity is cut and because the light doesn't work and heaven forbid some one is hurt as a result of poor lighting who is liable here? It could be argued by the property owners that the responsibility went to the renter because they paid the renter to take over that responsibility of that light.
J Groenveld
Never hold up. The renter was duped. All liability would be on the slumloed
Personally I agree with you but I believe that should it went to court, that would be the defense argument.
J Groenveld
It's cut and dry.
So simple, get electrician to cut the wire.
thats not an okay thing to do, cutting a live wire can easily kill someone. Even if its turned off and then you cut it, you'll have to turn it back on leaving exposed wires that can start a fire...
Yeah or you could just open the breaker box with a screwdriver, turn off the breaker, and remove the wire from the breaker with zero risk....
Baloney my son, you just know rats ass what you are talking about. Of course she would get someone to do it.
Cut the power and cap the line
You asked the people at Home Depot!!?!?
yeah she 'investigated' the issue....
@@adaster98
Because HD does not provide specs on light bulbs.. The manufacture does.
If you asked an employee at HD "how much energy does this light take".. The employee will simply read the packaging.
This is one apartment complex I would avoid like the plague. They're willing to have somebody else pay for the electricity, but when that tenant does not want to they turn it off. Now the apartment complex don't want to pay for the electricity for the so-called light. Something smells rotten!
Was it a licenced electrician? Probably not because they wouldn't do that.
here's a fix the apartment hooks up the light to their electricity and pays for it but notice what they said the apartment complex will credit the person that's paying the light in another words they'll wait till the stuff calms down and then not say anything to the person that's renting that apartment
i had a simular thing happen to me. i too live on a fix income in an apartment. my water bill for a 1 bedroom appartment is usually like $17 a month. Then one month...it was like $140. It took me months to finally get that bill away. I refused to pay more then $17 so let the $123 carry over each month. Had the appartment's maitence check for leaks twice. They didnt find one. It was mathmatically impossible for me to use that much in a 1 bedroom/bath apartment with one tennant. if it was double i could understand. the next month...besides the the $123 that carried over, bill was normal luckily the water company realized it mustve been a mistake on their end and dropped that $123
steve b I was talking about personal experience. read the who comment before calling me a dumbass
Hold up... is nobody gonna talk about that aquarium?
ikr
That fish is in a damn water tank
Onicss I didn't notice the fish at first, but wondered why the why it was bubbling.
She's drinking water from it. Fish poop and pee are proven to contain medicinal value so it is justified.
I’d leave the light off, when the residents complain tell them that you’ll put it back on if they all pay you $10 per month, then your be quids in. Who’s the full then . Good luck
Yeah that way she'd be ripping off all the renters not just the one! Great thinking...
I would tell them I want backpay for all the months I paid it, with interest, and if they don't pay, I would send a voltage spike up to it and fry it.
A 9mm is a lot easier
@@craigjensen6853 maybe easier, but a voltage spike is harder to prove as vandalism. If they keep replacing the lamp, keep frying it. I could do it by backfeeding 240V to it, making sure nothing else in the house was on at the time (all other breakers off), and everything else removed from the 240V circuit except that outdoor lamp. A simple 120V to 240V voltage converter using power from a 12V to 120V inverter should do the trick... a "suicide" (backfeed) cord is needed too. Frie dat sum bich.
Sena knew what was going on. She just waited until someone complains.
Ms Roland shouldve never been paying for the light. Nor the other renter before her! How shady is that manager for not disclosing that info? Shame on you!
Home Depot probably did not know the cost-- just guessed at it. Several factors would be necessary to know calculate the actual cost. Mercury vapor, now no longer manufactured, is very expensive and would cost more than $10.00 per month. Longer nights would cost more also.
Imagine being on a jury trial, And that guy is your lawyer.
In the UK that is a criminal . stealing electricity or gas its a matter for the police .
The US is a strange place. We have 50 different states with 50 different sets of laws. In some states this may be illegal and in some other states it may just be a private dispute that would have to be dealt in small claims court.
+Sulfen strange old world.
uk shouldn't be calling the usa old world lmao
I don't know where you're getting this from, it would be illegal no matter what if its not in the agreement lol
be smart and just keep that switch off then?
Could be connected to other outlets in the house.
turn the switch off and break the fucking thing
lol same shit bro lmao
Turn the breaker off that controls the outdoor lamp. Done.
Hope Yukizmizu unless its on a circuit with other things linked to your apartment.
what about the past renters. Now that the landlord has to pay, safety is no longer an issue, Stealing is a crime, no dought about it. Of course its illegal. If she was stealing the landlords light she would be in jail.
Well no. You do not go to jail for something like that. She would of been charged as the landlord was.
The landlord said she recently put that in. We do not know if any other tenants lived there and we have no way of finding out or proving it.
She's fucking recovering from cancer in her leg and the landlord is just like wow, I got an idea! Lemme just grab money from her pocket!
well atleast they can now say every apartment costs this much but this one right here is 10 dollars cheaper hue hue hue
"Even if it's $10 I don't get enough for that" As the Bluetooth earphone is on the ear.
0:32
In all honestly that place looks like a jail. $425 a month is overkill.
she claims she didnt know, but yet says when she went to the store they told her would cost no more than 10$ a month
Dumb complex. Very greedy and lazy. They should compensate that woman more than $10/mo. for the trouble they've caused her.
Slow news day..
So YOU would not want to know that you were paying for something you should not be responsible for?
Ikr. Where are all the rape convictions TH-cam typically features?
Leave the breaker off
1 I would not pay a penny of it
2 I would disconnect it
3 don't mess with me it will end badly for you
Renter is right, I know this because she has a bluetooth earpiece in. She official af
We have a light like that in the backyard that our town refuses to move.
Aint got no time for that!
Switch the damn breaker off then!! Problem solved.
ah, but is it on it's own breaker or is it sharing one with part of her apartment?
lives on a fixed income but has a bluetooth in ear.
gvceda900 You can pick them up for less than $20. She probably bought it before she had cancer, when she was still working.
If the renter gets a reduced subsidised electrical bill then the complex using it is even more illegal.
So happy for the woman. U getba credit. Im so happy they worked it out for her. Sorry ass landlords
Similar thing happened to me when we rented an apartment that was part of a house, the lights in the basement were on my breaker box, they were rarely used but that wasn't the point. Luckily I was able to move shortly after making the discovery.
Now it makes me wonder if they were doing this to me when I lived in an apartment. They had lights outside every apartment building that came on when it got dark. However, I lived near Salt Lake City and to the East we have mountains so the bulb was on even during most of the daytime because my apartment faced East. My electricity always came out to a minimum of $70 a month even though I never turned on my heater and my only appliances was the water heater, fridge, stove, internet router, laptop, and some LED bulbs. My water was always high as well but I didn't complain about that because it was on the lease that we shared water bills. Basically the whole building had one water meter and we all split the costs.I lived alone but my water bill always came out to $40+.
They clearly ripped you off.
that "fish tank" is straight up animal abuse
Cuda FX ok snowflake
@Paradoxical Nightmare it doesnt seem to be functioning as a dispenser it's just a fish tank
@Paradoxical Nightmare true lmaooo
Peepee
Hahahahahaha!
Can you say Solar ?
ˈsōlər, So•lar
Can you say : Solar panels are expensive?
Sounds like the landlord didn't want to pay the extra cost to do it right in the first place. Quoting the 'electrician' as saying "it's the only ways it can be done" means it's the only way for what the landlord wanted to pay.
sounds like an excellent win for a lawsuit... with back charges in compensation
2:30 If the electrician said it's the only way then they are a scum bag. I'm an electrician and there are a thousand ways it could have been done differently.
@@antoniojmonetti to the "house pannel" where are the other power from lights and alarms and fire alarms and whatnot that is not a part of the tenants power.
@@antoniojmonetti yes.
The gas to the dyer was on the same meter as one of the apartment units so the landlord just paid for the gas for that unit.
And I thought my apartment looked like shit.
We pay for our own security light!!
the renter sure sue her & win cuz it the landlord sure be paying
Thats a good landlord.
I bet next time she has a rent increase they will add an addition $10.
Didn't even look like there's a light bulb in it.
Turn the f-in breaker off..... jeese
Shark But if you turn the breaker off, you turn off the parking lot light (and they live in a bad neighborhood). It seems like the better solution is to take this situation to the city and hopefully they'd force the landlord to properly resolve the problem by rewiring the parking lot light to the complex's electrical system.
In short, turning off the light just doesn't seem like a good solution due to the consequences of not having that light.
The breaker is probably not just that light, it also covers a portion of her apartment. If she just turns the breaker off, it may kill her bathroom lights or the refrigerator or something else she wants power to like that glorious fish habitat at 0:48.
ONLY 7.50 OR SO? ... id'd be pissed, that's 7.50 than what she should be paying! my electric is only like 45 a month, so 7.50'ish would be almost 25% more ... the manager should reimburse her plus interest
A 7.50 a month is for led and newer fixtures.
B common areas are not on tennant electricity legally
C this is not the only way, just the cheapest way.
D. The installation is not to code since the connector used is for a box, not a turn, and there is no box present on the wall
Should run a different line and pass the amount on too all the renters
You gotta look for an electrical leak.
just flip the breaker for that light. problem solved
Just unwired the damn light, or keep the breaker off to that light.
Cool fishtank
Same!!! I only had 1 ac in my apartment but one bill was worth 4months worth. I questioned them if the construction for that month or the hallway lights were mistakenly tapped to mine. Whatever
Just shut off the breaker for that light.
The ATTORNEY says, “I’m pretty sure it’s illegal”. I guess like everything, you get what you pay for.
Because the complex’s electricity means only the car park’s lightbulb.
If that light is 250 watts like a powerful HID light usually is at smallest for outside area lighting then that is kWh=1000 watts per hour=rate of electricity per hour (.08 -.25+ cents). So that's 250 x 4 hours=1000 watts= 1 kWh . So lets assume this is .10 cents per kWh. That light bulb alone if on all the time due to breaker being on will cost .10 cents every 4 hours. .60 cents per day times 30 days is $18 flat alone for that light. If she is on a fixed income of $500-1000 or less that brings a $100 utility bill to be a little more unbearable.
just put a separate meter on the light and compensate her for the cost
Awfully sleazy behavior isn't it? What a lowlife stunt.
Quick math on electricity cost Assuming what appears to a 150 Watts light sodium light with 40 watts ballast. Work appears to done on the cheap. Electric rate (maybe different there but here at off peak 11.5 /kw md peak 14.8 > quick cal we use off peak for night winter operation will be more.
.115 X .190 x12 hours of night x 30 days = $7.87
by code in ont. light should be on separate breaker.
By rights on complex breaker >>> i'm sure that there are building codes to that.
Legally tenant pay for own use electricity > complex is guilty of theft.
I doubt that light is just 150 watts. The led versions are 150. The one shown could be 450 750 or more.
I hope they pay for their theft.
That guys name is really Prettyman?
Uh, excuse me thats Mr.Prettyman to you.
1st she didn’t know about it
Then said electrician said it was the only way to do it.
Did she sign a lease? The light comes with the apartment if she can shut it off, its her choice.... No need to inform her that the light even exists.
Find the breaker the light is hooked up to and shut it off and leave it off.
Oh come on. Just get a submeter kit and and run all the lights through it, then reimburse the renter for the monthly usage.
The power company would have put a meter in no questions. There is already a service to feed the apartments. The electrician work would have cost more though. Not as simple as drilling a hole in the wall and tapping off a random wire.
Most power companies will even put in a pole and light for a yearly/monthly fee. They are a power companies, thats how they make money. They will stick one in your back yard if you're willing to pay for it. She was just trying to save a nickel.
2:50 weather it's 10 a month or 10 dollars a year it's still illigal
you will not be able to notice $10 a month on a payer bill
Connect the light to a small solar panel.
There's more to this story than a single light. Tenant was looking for an excuse to get out of lease and found it even tho landlord offered reimbursement.
why would you want to stay when you know youre being scammed,
Yeah, but perfectly legal for the tenant.
Am I the only one wondering why she has gold fish in her water dispenser? Lol
So the property company made it right, and she still wants to move out? Ridiculous
AgnotologyTV They "made it right" by reimbursing her after she found out & put her complaint on TV. Then they "made it right" again by disconnecting the light on the parking lot. Sounds like your idea of "making it right" consists of sleazy people getting caught & being too cheap to do the right thing.
I pay $11.25 per month for my private light and it isn't hooked to my meter, everything is maintained by the Electric Co.
If my rent is 500 I will pay 400 now
Have a election come in her house and unhook the dam thing or they can put up a seperate meter for it next to her meter.
Find out what breaker is for that light and turn it off.
Well, you know what wattage the bulb is. You know how many hours it's on for. So you can work out how much energy it uses a month and work out a cost and knock it off her rent. Everyone's happy. Even give her a refund for the months so far.
As a woman who's using crutches she should be right alongside the idea of a well-lit exterior to her home.
just shut off the light
Credit them 50.00 since in the winter it gets darker way earlier than in the summertime
I want that fish tank
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