Completely agree, that this is a watch enthusiasts or collectors best kept secret. All I can hope is that we can enjoy these wonderful watches for as long as possible before it catches on and none watch lovers start looking at GS as investments just to make a profit. Thank you for another great video.
Agree completely with your premise here. I was on a Breitling forum and the talk was all "Breitling should be more like Rolex, less models, harder to get, etc" but when you ask "so, you're happy that watches you want are discontinued? you'll never see new models - ever? you'll have to schmooze ADs just to be allowed to buy a watch?" they quickly change their tune. Rolex folk are happy with how they are treated and they are welcome to it - I prefer getting discounts, getting the watches I want and seeing new stuff every so often.
Fact: Breitling is readily available because nobody wants them. The store in Geneva is full of watches but no customers. Rolex store is full of customers but no watches. Rolex's problem is although they produce 1 million watches a year, many millions more dream to own one, most never will. I must say however that the current Breitling CEO George Kern is doing an outstanding job, and the brand is slowly climbing back from its latest near death experience.
@@Jungleman707 thats not really true - of the 800,000 odd rolexes made approximately 200000 are highly desireable and waitlisted - the other 600,000 lady datejusts etc are foisted on ADs and end up at grey market dealers in change for the steel sports models they then sell for double retail. Want a rolex - fine walk in, offer to buy a cellini and you'll get one for 40% off.
I think the problem is GS has gone the Omega route. Too many variants, too many special editions / dials. They need to stop cashing in with shiny new things, and just focus on building icons like the snowflake and peacock. That’s why Rolex is where they are, classic models that have been continuously improved but retain the design of what they always were.
Never understand how too many variants is a bad thing...seems like a complaint just for the sake of complaining because more variants = something for everyone. Yes I would prefer if they had less LEs but there's nothing wrong with LEs other than they are harder to get which sucks but aren't rolexes even harder to get currently? So that point in comparison is pretty mute. GS does have a focus and that's in their case designs. They just group their collections in a difficult to remember way. Like who really knows what's in GS's sport vs elegance vs heritage collections? Most people just self categorize their pieces into high beat, SD etc or by their case design 44GS etc etc
@@duncanchiu3659 its a very legitimate point. One of the key points of Rolex's success is continuous and minor refinement to established icons vs completely revamping the line up year after year. It helps with recognition and re-sale and not feeling like you wasted a bundle on a fad..like spending ton on last year's hot fashion clothing that you couldn't wear without being laughed at this year. GS is objectively superior in fit/finish/technology but Rolex has the firm grip on marketing and creating perception of prestige.
@@gmshadowtraders we all get the thrill of something new, followed by a honeymoon and Omega and GS happily cater to those impulse buys. Today’s thrill though quickly becomes forgotten, just like today’s latest woke outrage won’t be remembered when the next one comes along in a few days time.
I purchased this exact sbgr321 GS this last winter. I wanted a rolex and there was simply none available in a retail setting. Also to get that deep blue color with a date just in stainless steel in a rolex with a blue dial is another level of difficulty even when rolexes are in stock. They do exist in a date just in stainless steel but i have only seen them on the secondary market. It may be that they make so few of them in stainless steel in order to market you into a two tone for a date just witch was going to be very expensive for me. Or they simply just dont make anymore date just in stainless steel. Either way it was going to be a fools errand to get one because of the popularity and high price i was going to have to pay. The fact that grand seiko dosent have that kind of notoriety and popularity yet is exactly why i was able to walk into my nearest watches of Switzerland store and and walk out with one. The same store whoes rolex display case was empty except for the display models. I wanted a rolex but now that i have had my sbgr321 for a couple of months im absolutely happy i didn't get a Rolex. I would have had to pay for me an almost uncomfortable amount because they are just too popular via the successful marketing. I saved a lot of money amd and got a watch in exactly my favorite color and size thats looks absolutely stunning and high level accuracy for an automatic. Just an excellent choice all around. I feel im getting $ 7000 worth of value for $ 5,200. at least when you factor in a oyster perpetual without date starting at $ 5,600 and a bit less accurate than this one. And that is being generous as i consider a oyster perpetual stainless steel to be a 5 to 7 thousand dollar watch. So that is why i say 7000 value in my opinion. Of course grand Seiko would never get away with charging those prices for exactly the reasons you covered in this video. Absolutely loving my sbgr 321 GS. Great video 👍
@@AzulJ2022 i would highly recommend grand Seiko after owning for one year. The watch runs acording to spec with no issues. I only could afford one luxury watch on this level. My other choices were rolex in a similar configuration and omega. Was getting close to getting a rolex and saw this GS and absolutely fell in love with the dial and sparkling indicies. The finishing on the case is absolutely top of the line. I saved a couple of thousand over a comparable Rolex. I was wondering when i purchased if i was going to regret choosing GS over rolex and after one year. The answer is no. I am absolutely satisfied with this particular model. If i had purchased a rolex it would have been more because it was a rolex vs buying what i like for myself. It is a tiny bit more accurate in terms of being rated at +5-3 which it doesn't deviate much feom with temperature changes. Not much of a difference than rolex in terms of accuracy but considering that i saved a couple thousand and got just as good if not arguably better for a watch which i paid not quite $5,500 US for at retail. In my opinion this would be a higher priced watch in another more popular brand considering the quality and savings. The only criticism i have is the standard band that comes on the watch. Its a good looking band but has no micro adjustment which is not an issue for me because 3 links puts it perfectly on my wrist but if the micro adjustment matters to you then i would recommend other bands as i have several different bands i wear with the watch to change the look and have a little fun with bands and different colors. Currently i have a metal band from strapcode on the watch which i really like with soms micro adjustment if i need it, and divers clasp. Yes absolutely i can recommend this now as a luxery watch purchase after one year. 👍
I've only recently discovered Grand Seiko and love them. Beautiful pieces of Mechanical art. My initial thoughts were that GS needed to up their marketing game . However listening to your comments, l agree with your thoughts . I'm quite happy to admire mine on my own and not concern myself with a status symbol.
Love your reviews. As for Rolex. Not a fan... and I don’t really like to spend that much money on a watch. The Grand Seiko is beautiful. Still up there in price. Overall. I enjoy watches that have a quality price ratio. Hamilton, Longines, Seiko, Orient, Tissot, Christopher Ward, and many other brands that provide this.
I was into collecting the category of great quality AFFORDABLE watches like Regular Seiko's, Orient and Gshock Casio for quite awhile. But once I GOT A HOLD OF MY FIRST GRAND SEIKO, I FELT SAW AND EXPERIENECED THE DETAILED PREMIUM QUALITY THAT WAS PUT INTO THIS WATCH. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY GS's ARE IN A DIFFERENT PRICE CATEGORY OF SEIKO WATCH. YOU HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT IN PERSON TO FULLY COMPREHEND THIS.
Rolex peaked in 80's and 90's. We are now in 2021 but Rolex hasn't moved on. They have become a one trick pony. If I could afford a Rolex I would buy a grand Seiko !
I don't agree. Rolex continues to perfect their watches on an ongoing basis, especially the movements, they just don't hype it too much. Rolex peaked in 80's and 90's...no, not true, look at their jingly jangly bracelets of that era, compare to the bracelets of today which are the best in the industry. Yes they are a one trick pony, their trick is to make high quality watches at a quite reasonable price. You may hate that you can't get one, but it wasn't always that way, they used to lie unsold in stores while people went crazy over Panerai.
@@Jungleman707 haters gonna hate. I own a GS, and I own rolexes. Love both brands, and Rolex is a class above period. In any case both brands offer 2 very different flavors/style. Dials and polishing on GS are second to none. But you cant mess with the toughness, bracelet, fonctionality, accuracy of rolexes, and most of their models are simply iconics
I love my Rolex because of what it means to me (a significant personal milestone) but my GS I'd wear all day and the day after. I absolutely love looking at it for the time, the SD sweep hypnotize me, and when I'm out I just feel... safer 😉😆 If you're from a developing country, you'd know what I mean 😆
I don't speculate. That's why l cashed out from both the financial and property market. We are to blame for the high rolex prices bec we treat it like the stock market. And, alike the stock market, the higher it goes, the harder it falls. The prices of GS will go up whether you like it or not. It's hard to speculate on GS, bec the numbers are too limited for mass speculation. And, they spent on innovations rather than marketing. After a hard lesson, people will look for values again and shy away from speculation. This is certain.
Btw, if you don't know, GS is not interested in competing with Rolex. They are not competing with anyone but themselves. They did it in the 70's. They are doing it again. Most people are not aware of how great the calibre 7016 is. Patek only managed to catch up on this 20+ years later! As for finishing, the Grandmaster Phillipe Dufour said that it is not found in the swiss. George Daniels co-axial is much appreciated, and, rightly so. But, strangely, not many people talk about the 9SA5. Imagine, this is a Rolex Movement. Man, the internet will explode. 🤣🤣🤣
@@watchcollectingstrategyNo secret. Jack Forster has already wrote extensively on it, only that, no one has done the same on TH-cam, though, the watchfinder was very humble when he reviewed the slgh003. Perhaps, he has a part 2 coming. This chap has license to kill. Btw, it's strange people can pay premium and speculate on a watch that you can only see one side.🤣🤣 But perhaps, you are right. Judging from the whole market right down, fools are indeed plentiful. There's always new people in the market who has not eaten enough salt. They listen to the experts and didn't know that they are salesmen too 🤣🤣🤣.
Hey Bro, GS stand by them alone. They build incredible watches with a lot of focus on the fine details. They just make awesome watches. And I don’t need more. Great footage as usual and I agree on your points of view here. Great vid, keep up the good work, stay safe and healthy 🙏🏻
I think Watchfinder said it best. " makes watches. Rolex sells watches." Or something like that. As a watch enthusiast, this doesn't bother me one bit!
GS delivers outstanding quality and i don't think celebrating milestones with special editions is wrong unless they are charging more. GS never asking more money for its special editions.
I just have to admit. Grand Seiko and the Spring Drive is now the ultimate in horological excellence and it will become the number one brand over time. Rolex is beginning to look like just another mass produced luxury brand and with a million watches turned out each year, mostly machine produced, who can deny that?
@@Digital_Ken Most of the Rolex process is automated machining. Rolex makes upwards of a million watches a year, I think about 10 times more than GS so I suppose it's impractical for them to make everything by hand.
The production volume of mass market brands is much to high for Grand Seiko’s current level of detail in their watch making. Increasing that 20x to match Rolex volume would compromise this quality. Even a Rolex may reduce their volume as they shift more towards gold cases, away from steel in the coming years. Fact is money is concentrating into fewer hands and those hands have more money. Look forward to a video on the new seasons GMT elegance line. The green Kira Zuri dial Shunbun should be an eye catcher if it’s like the frosty limited 2018 edition.
some channel showed a pie chart of market share between all luxury brands. Rolex is like 40% of the entire market due to volume, G.S barely registers due to its small volume.
GS has a lot of areas where they outclass Rolex, but they also equally fall short when it comes to the bracelet construction and overall comfort on the wrist. Solid gold GS on leather is way overpriced compared to a solid gold Rolex like the Cellini. Even on the SS models, the markers and hands of a Rolex are white gold and even have platinum coated numbers on their professional watch bezels. I think Rolex is the jack of all trade, the level of refinement all across the board is unmatched. With that said, I also think that Rolex is well priced among other brands.
I doubt very much if you have ever experienced a Grand Seiko. I think you're equating the bracelet and other things relating to the standard Seiko brand with Grand Seiko. If you had any knowledge, you would not have made such a, forgive me for saying, a very silly comment. Everything about a GS watch is pure class and Rolex just cannot match it at the moment.
@@brianmsahin His comments were spot on, I've owned several GS and there braclets and clasps are not excusable, but I surpose everyone's standard, level, expectations are different.
I would pick Grand Seiko's highly finished steel hands over Rolex's soso white gold hands any days of the week. Craftsmanship is more precious than material itself.
@@brianmsahin I have not owned a GS but I had a lot of time with the Skyflake (and other models as well) with occasional visits to the boutique for years, loved them but ended up with a 126333 as my first luxury watch. This is the Apples to Oranges comparison, both are different, have their own strengths and weaknessess.
That GS with the blue dial and sharp, crisp hands is amazing. However, the bracelet just look cheap to me. Same with some omega watches. Is it still worth 5k plus? Yes, but let's not pretend that GS are perfect either.
Rolex makes hundreds of thousands of watches each year by technicians....Grand Seiko are mostly hand made by craftsmen in smaller numbers...Grand Seiko keep doing what you are doing.
Grand seiko is not competing with rolex its in a different league. Its the only brand I've purchased and I cannot find a fault anywhere and I've looked hard. Rolex are ok watches but its all brand hype, and I've found issues with them, and they are overpriced. Not for me.
It depends what you mean by a "best" watch. Rolex watches are all about engineering, they are very precise and sturdy and durable and waterproof and will keep time 10 years without service. My dad's Rolex keeps excellent time after 50 years. They are the "best" watch for everyday life & to pass on to your kids afterwards. Unfortunately, the brand has been discovered by douchebags.
I disagree. Rolex builds great watches especially when you want a watch that can stand in every day life. Do they have the handmade finishing? No. And actually I appreciate that they resist the trend of having Saphire caseback.
So refreshing someone on TH-cam saying and stating the truth "Rolex don't make the best watches in the world" ...hat off to you
Someone needs to say it 😅
So many youtubers say that.
Don't overhype Grand Seiko, guys. Keep the price low 😉
Tell that to Reddit!
Hahahaha
Keeping the price at retail is enough for me haha
Completely agree, that this is a watch enthusiasts or collectors best kept secret. All I can hope is that we can enjoy these wonderful watches for as long as possible before it catches on and none watch lovers start looking at GS as investments just to make a profit. Thank you for another great video.
Thank you for watching Freddie!
Agree completely with your premise here. I was on a Breitling forum and the talk was all "Breitling should be more like Rolex, less models, harder to get, etc" but when you ask "so, you're happy that watches you want are discontinued? you'll never see new models - ever? you'll have to schmooze ADs just to be allowed to buy a watch?" they quickly change their tune. Rolex folk are happy with how they are treated and they are welcome to it - I prefer getting discounts, getting the watches I want and seeing new stuff every so often.
Thanks for watching Pete! Glad you enjoyed the topic
Fact: Breitling is readily available because nobody wants them. The store in Geneva is full of watches but no customers. Rolex store is full of customers but no watches. Rolex's problem is although they produce 1 million watches a year, many millions more dream to own one, most never will. I must say however that the current Breitling CEO George Kern is doing an outstanding job, and the brand is slowly climbing back from its latest near death experience.
@@Jungleman707 thats not really true - of the 800,000 odd rolexes made approximately 200000 are highly desireable and waitlisted - the other 600,000 lady datejusts etc are foisted on ADs and end up at grey market dealers in change for the steel sports models they then sell for double retail. Want a rolex - fine walk in, offer to buy a cellini and you'll get one for 40% off.
@@PeteMcConvill Yeah I agree with you here. The "Saddam Hussein collection" ))))
@@PeteMcConvill Why don't they make more of the desirable watches and less of the others?
That is a beautiful piece!!! Love the red accent on the second hand
Agreed, the red second hand was an incredible touch
I think the problem is GS has gone the Omega route. Too many variants, too many special editions / dials. They need to stop cashing in with shiny new things, and just focus on building icons like the snowflake and peacock. That’s why Rolex is where they are, classic models that have been continuously improved but retain the design of what they always were.
Never understand how too many variants is a bad thing...seems like a complaint just for the sake of complaining because more variants = something for everyone. Yes I would prefer if they had less LEs but there's nothing wrong with LEs other than they are harder to get which sucks but aren't rolexes even harder to get currently? So that point in comparison is pretty mute. GS does have a focus and that's in their case designs. They just group their collections in a difficult to remember way. Like who really knows what's in GS's sport vs elegance vs heritage collections? Most people just self categorize their pieces into high beat, SD etc or by their case design 44GS etc etc
Thanks for watching!
@@duncanchiu3659 its a very legitimate point. One of the key points of Rolex's success is continuous and minor refinement to established icons vs completely revamping the line up year after year. It helps with recognition and re-sale and not feeling like you wasted a bundle on a fad..like spending ton on last year's hot fashion clothing that you couldn't wear without being laughed at this year. GS is objectively superior in fit/finish/technology but Rolex has the firm grip on marketing and creating perception of prestige.
You prefer classic boring watches that all look exactly the same? Got it
@@gmshadowtraders we all get the thrill of something new, followed by a honeymoon and Omega and GS happily cater to those impulse buys. Today’s thrill though quickly becomes forgotten, just like today’s latest woke outrage won’t be remembered when the next one comes along in a few days time.
I purchased this exact sbgr321 GS this last winter. I wanted a rolex and there was simply none available in a retail setting. Also to get that deep blue color with a date just in stainless steel in a rolex with a blue dial is another level of difficulty even when rolexes are in stock. They do exist in a date just in stainless steel but i have only seen them on the secondary market. It may be that they make so few of them in stainless steel in order to market you into a two tone for a date just witch was going to be very expensive for me. Or they simply just dont make anymore date just in stainless steel. Either way it was going to be a fools errand to get one because of the popularity and high price i was going to have to pay. The fact that grand seiko dosent have that kind of notoriety and popularity yet is exactly why i was able to walk into my nearest watches of Switzerland store and and walk out with one. The same store whoes rolex display case was empty except for the display models. I wanted a rolex but now that i have had my sbgr321 for a couple of months im absolutely happy i didn't get a Rolex. I would have had to pay for me an almost uncomfortable amount because they are just too popular via the successful marketing. I saved a lot of money amd and got a watch in exactly my favorite color and size thats looks absolutely stunning and high level accuracy for an automatic. Just an excellent choice all around. I feel im getting $ 7000 worth of value for $ 5,200. at least when you factor in a oyster perpetual without date starting at $ 5,600 and a bit less accurate than this one. And that is being generous as i consider a oyster perpetual stainless steel to be a 5 to 7 thousand dollar watch. So that is why i say 7000 value in my opinion. Of course grand Seiko would never get away with charging those prices for exactly the reasons you covered in this video. Absolutely loving my sbgr 321 GS. Great video 👍
I like Rolex but I like also grand seiko as you own one GS will you recommend ?
@@AzulJ2022 i would highly recommend grand Seiko after owning for one year. The watch runs acording to spec with no issues. I only could afford one luxury watch on this level. My other choices were rolex in a similar configuration and omega. Was getting close to getting a rolex and saw this GS and absolutely fell in love with the dial and sparkling indicies. The finishing on the case is absolutely top of the line. I saved a couple of thousand over a comparable Rolex. I was wondering when i purchased if i was going to regret choosing GS over rolex and after one year. The answer is no. I am absolutely satisfied with this particular model. If i had purchased a rolex it would have been more because it was a rolex vs buying what i like for myself. It is a tiny bit more accurate in terms of being rated at +5-3 which it doesn't deviate much feom with temperature changes. Not much of a difference than rolex in terms of accuracy but considering that i saved a couple thousand and got just as good if not arguably better for a watch which i paid not quite $5,500 US for at retail. In my opinion this would be a higher priced watch in another more popular brand considering the quality and savings. The only criticism i have is the standard band that comes on the watch. Its a good looking band but has no micro adjustment which is not an issue for me because 3 links puts it perfectly on my wrist but if the micro adjustment matters to you then i would recommend other bands as i have several different bands i wear with the watch to change the look and have a little fun with bands and different colors. Currently i have a metal band from strapcode on the watch which i really like with soms micro adjustment if i need it, and divers clasp. Yes absolutely i can recommend this now as a luxery watch purchase after one year. 👍
Mesmerizing video, and great points that most people won't point out!
if there was a grand seiko with spring drive, blue dial and golden seconds hand, I'd buy it in an instant
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
With a 44gs case 😍
I've only recently discovered Grand Seiko and love them. Beautiful pieces of Mechanical art. My initial thoughts were that GS needed to up their marketing game . However listening to your comments, l agree with your thoughts . I'm quite happy to admire mine on my own and not concern myself with a status symbol.
Glad you agree Timmy! Thanks for watching
Love your reviews. As for Rolex. Not a fan... and I don’t really like to spend that much money on a watch. The Grand Seiko is beautiful. Still up there in price. Overall. I enjoy watches that have a quality price ratio. Hamilton, Longines, Seiko, Orient, Tissot, Christopher Ward, and many other brands that provide this.
Watch collecting and Luxury watch collecting are pretty much two different hobbies.
@@othus123 True.
I was into collecting the category of great quality AFFORDABLE watches like Regular Seiko's, Orient and Gshock Casio for quite awhile. But once I GOT A HOLD OF MY FIRST GRAND SEIKO, I FELT SAW AND EXPERIENECED THE DETAILED PREMIUM QUALITY THAT WAS PUT INTO THIS WATCH. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY GS's ARE IN A DIFFERENT PRICE CATEGORY OF SEIKO WATCH. YOU HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT IN PERSON TO FULLY COMPREHEND THIS.
Thanks for watching buddy!
"Marketing does not equal substance". Very well said.
Agreed!
Rolex peaked in 80's and 90's. We are now in 2021 but Rolex hasn't moved on. They have become a one trick pony. If I could afford a Rolex I would buy a grand Seiko !
That is true! Although I do like the new Tiffany dial....👀
I don't agree. Rolex continues to perfect their watches on an ongoing basis, especially the movements, they just don't hype it too much. Rolex peaked in 80's and 90's...no, not true, look at their jingly jangly bracelets of that era, compare to the bracelets of today which are the best in the industry. Yes they are a one trick pony, their trick is to make high quality watches at a quite reasonable price. You may hate that you can't get one, but it wasn't always that way, they used to lie unsold in stores while people went crazy over Panerai.
@@Jungleman707 haters gonna hate. I own a GS, and I own rolexes. Love both brands, and Rolex is a class above period. In any case both brands offer 2 very different flavors/style. Dials and polishing on GS are second to none. But you cant mess with the toughness, bracelet, fonctionality, accuracy of rolexes, and most of their models are simply iconics
Oh, my watch! Love it - great piece🤗👍
Ayyyy! Enjoy it in good health
All I ask is that they make their divers a reasonable size. Please...
39mm would be 🔥
Awesome video AB! Love this watch.
Thank you Hugo! Glad you enjoyed my friend
I love my Rolex because of what it means to me (a significant personal milestone) but my GS I'd wear all day and the day after. I absolutely love looking at it for the time, the SD sweep hypnotize me, and when I'm out I just feel... safer 😉😆
If you're from a developing country, you'd know what I mean 😆
@@just88 Oh man, that's terrible and I'm sorry you had to experience that ☹ I've been fortunate to not have attracted the wrong sort of attention then
beautiful blue...
I don't speculate. That's why l cashed out from both the financial and property market. We are to blame for the high rolex prices bec we treat it like the stock market. And, alike the stock market, the higher it goes, the harder it falls.
The prices of GS will go up whether you like it or not. It's hard to speculate on GS, bec the numbers are too limited for mass speculation. And, they spent on innovations rather than marketing. After a hard lesson, people will look for values again and shy away from speculation. This is certain.
Btw, if you don't know, GS is not interested in competing with Rolex. They are not competing with anyone but themselves. They did it in the 70's. They are doing it again. Most people are not aware of how great the calibre 7016 is. Patek only managed to catch up on this 20+ years later! As for finishing, the Grandmaster Phillipe Dufour said that it is not found in the swiss.
George Daniels co-axial is much appreciated, and, rightly so. But, strangely, not many people talk about the 9SA5. Imagine, this is a Rolex Movement. Man, the internet will explode. 🤣🤣🤣
The 9SA5 is a marvel & GS will hopefully remain a collectors best kept secret.
@@watchcollectingstrategyNo secret. Jack Forster has already wrote extensively on it, only that, no one has done the same on TH-cam, though, the watchfinder was very humble when he reviewed the slgh003. Perhaps, he has a part 2 coming. This chap has license to kill. Btw, it's strange people can pay premium and speculate on a watch that you can only see one side.🤣🤣
But perhaps, you are right. Judging from the whole market right down, fools are indeed plentiful. There's always new people in the market who has not eaten enough salt. They listen to the experts and didn't know that they are salesmen too 🤣🤣🤣.
Hey Bro, GS stand by them alone. They build incredible watches with a lot of focus on the fine details. They just make awesome watches. And I don’t need more.
Great footage as usual and I agree on your points of view here. Great vid, keep up the good work, stay safe and healthy 🙏🏻
Really hope my favorite brand (GS) will never as the same as Rolex today. Go in a gs store, smiles, wize advices and pic the one you want.
grand seiko will never overtake rolex i own both but grand seiko are beautiful and thats what matters
great video. very nice macro shots.
Thank you Hassan!
Seiko is incomparable , Grand Seiko is unbeatable .
I would choose a GS over most brands.
GS is hard to beat
I think Watchfinder said it best. " makes watches. Rolex sells watches." Or something like that. As a watch enthusiast, this doesn't bother me one bit!
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I hope I can purchase mine before everyone else catches onto them haha!
Hope you catch one soon Jason!
GS delivers outstanding quality and i don't think celebrating milestones with special editions is wrong unless they are charging more. GS never asking more money for its special editions.
I just have to admit. Grand Seiko and the Spring Drive is now the ultimate in horological excellence and it will become the number one brand over time. Rolex is beginning to look like just another mass produced luxury brand and with a million watches turned out each year, mostly machine produced, who can deny that?
Rolex aren't hand made like GS?
@@Digital_Ken Nope. Crazy what they're able to charge for machine-made watches.
Thanks for watching Brian!
@@Digital_Ken Most of the Rolex process is automated machining. Rolex makes upwards of a million watches a year, I think about 10 times more than GS so I suppose it's impractical for them to make everything by hand.
The production volume of mass market brands is much to high for Grand Seiko’s current level of detail in their watch making. Increasing that 20x to match Rolex volume would compromise this quality. Even a Rolex may reduce their volume as they shift more towards gold cases, away from steel in the coming years. Fact is money is concentrating into fewer hands and those hands have more money.
Look forward to a video on the new seasons GMT elegance line. The green Kira Zuri dial Shunbun should be an eye catcher if it’s like the frosty limited 2018 edition.
Good point! Thanks for watching buddy
Beautiful watch
Agreed!
I’d take GS over Rolex all day every day
some channel showed a pie chart of market share between all luxury brands. Rolex is like 40% of the entire market due to volume, G.S barely registers due to its small volume.
Personally i think the Lange & sone model would be great for them; Growth isn’t the objective, excellent watches are THE focus
Lange make some of the best watches in the world. I own one so I am biased lol
What an intro
GS has a lot of areas where they outclass Rolex, but they also equally fall short when it comes to the bracelet construction and overall comfort on the wrist. Solid gold GS on leather is way overpriced compared to a solid gold Rolex like the Cellini. Even on the SS models, the markers and hands of a Rolex are white gold and even have platinum coated numbers on their professional watch bezels.
I think Rolex is the jack of all trade, the level of refinement all across the board is unmatched. With that said, I also think that Rolex is well priced among other brands.
I doubt very much if you have ever experienced a Grand Seiko. I think you're equating the bracelet and other things relating to the standard Seiko brand with Grand Seiko. If you had any knowledge, you would not have made such a, forgive me for saying, a very silly comment. Everything about a GS watch is pure class and Rolex just cannot match it at the moment.
@@brianmsahin His comments were spot on, I've owned several GS and there braclets and clasps are not excusable, but I surpose everyone's standard, level, expectations are different.
I would pick Grand Seiko's highly finished steel hands over Rolex's soso white gold hands any days of the week. Craftsmanship is more precious than material itself.
Thanks for watching! I do agree that GS needs to improve their bracelets
@@brianmsahin I have not owned a GS but I had a lot of time with the Skyflake (and other models as well) with occasional visits to the boutique for years, loved them but ended up with a 126333 as my first luxury watch. This is the Apples to Oranges comparison, both are different, have their own strengths and weaknessess.
Aren’t grand seiko bracelets crap?
That GS with the blue dial and sharp, crisp hands is amazing. However, the bracelet just look cheap to me. Same with some omega watches.
Is it still worth 5k plus? Yes, but let's not pretend that GS are perfect either.
Jeeeez A Seiko is a Seiko
Would you mind reviewing SBGA401?
GS for me.
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Rolex makes hundreds of thousands of watches each year by technicians....Grand Seiko are mostly hand made by craftsmen in smaller numbers...Grand Seiko keep doing what you are doing.
Grand seiko is not competing with rolex its in a different league. Its the only brand I've purchased and I cannot find a fault anywhere and I've looked hard. Rolex are ok watches but its all brand hype, and I've found issues with them, and they are overpriced. Not for me.
Buy a Rolex to impress others. Buy a Grand Seiko to impress yourself.
Grand Seiko just needs to stop making THICC watches...
Just made money and i like to show off so i got a Rolex.
I know watches and i am called a watch connoisseur and i buy GS.
Grand Seiko much superior to Rolex horology wise. Seiko is above Rolex in horology
Rolex fanboys are getting scared of the competition!
Hahahaha
It depends what you mean by a "best" watch. Rolex watches are all about engineering, they are very precise and sturdy and durable and waterproof and will keep time 10 years without service. My dad's Rolex keeps excellent time after 50 years. They are the "best" watch for everyday life & to pass on to your kids afterwards. Unfortunately, the brand has been discovered by douchebags.
I disagree. Rolex builds great watches especially when you want a watch that can stand in every day life. Do they have the handmade finishing? No. And actually I appreciate that they resist the trend of having Saphire caseback.
No offense but I honestly think they should change the GS logo.
I am not interested in Grand Seiko, just not my thing