Lucid::Dream Well yea, but if it doubles melee procs like the White Elephant Sticky Bombs or a Knife Drain boost, then it should multiple the power of both of those relics on the gun with the Redundant modifier.
Yeah I got a slam artifact that launches homing rockets I was grinning ear to ear said I'm gonna go skywell and f everything up since it has low gravity I can keep slamming. Then saw it tickled enemies with it's damage
Should have mentioned that the damage this gun does actually grows with your +Melee Damage buffs, so you can get it to do pretty crazy damage with Amara's melee skills. And you also want to have the right anoints that boost your melee damage too if you want to boost it a lot.
3:00 it is the knife drain making the sound (lifesteal) not white elephant also an important note on the unleash the dragon artifact. The DoT scales with a single meele atack damage meaning only 1 of the 14 pellets from the face-puncher goos into the DoT = low DoT. tldr: don't use unleash the dragon with face-puncher.
When used with any Cut Purse Artifact you will never run out of shot gun ammo. You will still have to reload though. If you managed to get an Epic Artifact with Cut Purse and Knife Drain (if such a thing exists) then you will never run out of shotgun ammo and will constantly heal.
Fun fact! Something joltz didn’t tell you is that if you pair the facepuncher with any relic with a cutpurse prefix, it will refill your shotgun ammo with each shot!
It will also refill the ammo for your allie's weapons no matter what they are using. I played with soemone using a heavy weapons build and I kept refilling their launcher ammo to 100% with every shot
I did a respec just for this weapon and it's amazing. A full melee Amara and the white elephant are ridiculous together. You shoot a couple shots and move on, knowing the explosives will finished the job.
If you add a static charge relic you will add 50% shock damage that chains to nearby enemies after your first slide. You also dont need to slide between each shot, it stays till you actually melee something
ok I was super confused as to why enemies were turning to my side when I was shooting them with this (on fl4k) and now I know that it uses melee effects
Anything that alters your melee also alters the damage output of this thing, not just those specific items. There's a lot of potential with this thing.
@@01Achtung yes, but some legendaries which are the newer ones in this borderlands as the op boss killers of mob which handle them easier for more efficient suff statistically as well as a bigger percentage of oranges to drop i would say two to one but you can go at your own pace as putting the time in can equal anyways
Face Puncher + Shooting Star or Brawler Ward shield + Cryo or Fire Stone White Elephant + Breaker class mod (and all 3 melee skills)= Deletion of all mobs and bosses in seconds for Amara. Even on Mayhem 4. You have to constantly break your own shield and turn off the last 2 blue Guardian rank skills to keep your shield broken but it absolutely wrecks everything. It's my favorite way to play Amara. Her life steal and damage reduction makes it so shields aren't necessary anyway. The only thing I can't do with the melee build yet is True Takedown mode. But I'm also not very good at the game so I'm sure others can solo True Takedown with a melee Amara.
DLC Vladof launcher weapon idea- The "Fuel Rad". Element: Radiation Special effect: Fires glowing projectiles that reduce action skill cooldown by a small amount on a direct hit Red text: "Out of your reach"
I would like to know the build you use for moze like class mods and artifacts and shields as I am running a similar setup but have not optimized it perfectly yet
Hey joltz ( or whoever else reads this ) what do you think of tvhm i played all the Previous games to max level and went through all modes and this one I didn't even bother so I just power leveled My characters that completed the game and then made a new character ( moze ) I Played a little bit because I thought it would be like the others, more difficult, levels to gain but all my characters Where a level or two from max and were shredding up the more "difficult" enemies
Might be pretty good with elemental projector planetoid and breaker mod. Although melee Amara isn't too good in M4 overall cuz you can die really fuckin quick, without a constant source of healing
@@AbsolutelyMenti It's actually really good on Mayham 4. With the right gear an annoinments it just destroys everything and it's also one of the tankiest builds. Probably one of the most underrated builds.
@@EskiMosher yeah that's the catch 22 for me tho. I don't have a lot of god roll anoints on a lot of my gear. I can still kill enemies just fine on M4 with my build but I just can't survive when Anointed and rocket launching badasses come out. I haven't come across anyone else that's told me otherwise either so that's why I said it wasn't viable, just based on my experience.
@@AbsolutelyMenti (redundent) facepuncher with 300% weapon damage after phaseslam (low level) Brawlerward with 200% melee after ps Granade with 50% elementel damage on ase Breaker class mod Knifedrain static charge(for mobbing) White elefant(for bossing) All melee skills and 5 in infusion And bonus for magazin size and actionskill cooldown on classmod/relic helps alot(i don't have those yet)
On a Amara you can use a firestone relic and an action skill element with infusion? I forget the name but basically you can have two elements on this gun if you want
I'm playing a melee build! PEW PEW PEW! Seriously I'm not fond of this gun at all because it's more like a bandaid fix for actual melee which simply doesn't work in this game because of how boss encounters are designed.
Ugh, I had the perfect phaseslam build a month ago and now the new lvl cap practically made it obsolete! At least I need to farm for a new redundant Facepuncher w/ the 300% anointment.
Yeah, I always dread when they raise the level cap. I do like to build my characters as powerful as they can be, but I hate when my hard-earned gear is rendered meaningless because of it.
This gun is too good with Amara. I combo it with a 75% melee lifesteal relic and a melee ammo steal relic making it so I never lose the battle of attrition
Weird, i tries that last week and it was working perfectly fine. Maybe check your new gear and see if there's a max shield bonus. That's usually the reason the glitch won't work.
So here's a question: If I have a relic that gives +25% weapon damage, does that bonus apply to Face Puncher as it's a weapon or is it exempt because it thinks it's melee?
I'm on Fl4k sniper build and accidentally paired this gun with white elephant. Then it's make me curious why this gun deal way more damage than my Skullmasher..... So i'm google Face puncher and found this. Now i know and i think i've to try Fl4k melee build next.
Nah I think its good to have other gear along with this in the video since no one realistically is gonna explore any options with the weapon if you dont show what it can do
How do you find motivation to play this game.. you got like every legendary.. I'm sure you got the 4 characters to lv 50 and you completed the whole game and dlc. What else is there to do??
Build optimisation? Improving your strategies for bosses and takedowns? Build experimentation? Getting better variants of gear? Playing in co-op? Beating the takedown in True Takedown mode? Getting all the cosmetics? Doing playthroughs of the game with specific self-imposed restrictions (e.g. 1 life/ironman, no action skill, manufacturer allegiance runs, etc)? Speedrunning the story? Speedrunning the Proving Grounds?
This with a white elephant on melee Amara is pretty good
Some Weirdo Now if you can find a redundant one with Phaseslam 300%...
redundant doesn't actually increase its damage, it only doubles melee procs; the actual damage per trigger pull stays the same.
Lucid::Dream Well yea, but if it doubles melee procs like the White Elephant Sticky Bombs or a Knife Drain boost, then it should multiple the power of both of those relics on the gun with the Redundant modifier.
My White Elephant has "melee to steal ammo" on it, so it has infinite ammo, essentially .
@@MegamanXfan21xx I got one of those for Zane, unlimited ammo and the clone can hold his own with the explosive pellets.
The utility value of this gun is amazing. I wish there were also weapons that simulated your slam or slide kick, or made them more usable.
Hell yeah, that would make Slam Artifacts actually useful
Yeah I got a slam artifact that launches homing rockets I was grinning ear to ear said I'm gonna go skywell and f everything up since it has low gravity I can keep slamming. Then saw it tickled enemies with it's damage
A grenade launcher type gun that did slam damage and shot a pulse would be hella cool.
@@Capta1nTD or a grenade launcher that shoots your currently equipped grenade
@@KushAidMan Been wanting that one since BL2, gearbox pls.
Should have mentioned that the damage this gun does actually grows with your +Melee Damage buffs, so you can get it to do pretty crazy damage with Amara's melee skills. And you also want to have the right anoints that boost your melee damage too if you want to boost it a lot.
Yeah I've got a 80% melee rough rider with melee on ase I want to try it with Amara but I don't have any other gear😭
@@thatoneguyfromsubway5092 still use that glitch to farm too lol
Can you recommend a melee build video?
3:00 it is the knife drain making the sound (lifesteal) not white elephant
also an important note on the unleash the dragon artifact. The DoT scales with a single meele atack damage meaning only 1 of the 14 pellets from the face-puncher goos into the DoT = low DoT.
tldr: don't use unleash the dragon with face-puncher.
I dont think anyone does. Theres much better combos for the puncher
Yeah at least with the white elephant the ability can proc multiple times to great effect.
Yeah, white elephant relics are the best on this, plus amaras sustainment, that's all the healing you need right there
My Amara is equipped with the Grave relic and the Ward shield, both of which provide massive melee buffs. Now I might try adding the Face Puncher.
When used with any Cut Purse Artifact you will never run out of shot gun ammo. You will still have to reload though. If you managed to get an Epic Artifact with Cut Purse and Knife Drain (if such a thing exists) then you will never run out of shotgun ammo and will constantly heal.
Fun fact! Something joltz didn’t tell you is that if you pair the facepuncher with any relic with a cutpurse prefix, it will refill your shotgun ammo with each shot!
Vincible Sugar That is incredible, holy shit
That mechanic is a staple in Tediore shotgun builds.
Try with the glitch
It will also refill the ammo for your allie's weapons no matter what they are using. I played with soemone using a heavy weapons build and I kept refilling their launcher ammo to 100% with every shot
I did a respec just for this weapon and it's amazing. A full melee Amara and the white elephant are ridiculous together. You shoot a couple shots and move on, knowing the explosives will finished the job.
If you add a static charge relic you will add 50% shock damage that chains to nearby enemies after your first slide. You also dont need to slide between each shot, it stays till you actually melee something
I'm surprised you didn't show this weapon until now, but ok
I swear he did I remember so vividly
Right like why
It didnt have a dedicated drop
he mentioned waiting for dedicated drops to be implemented, so now that those are out, he's doing the older stuff that didn't have one originally.
ok I was super confused as to why enemies were turning to my side when I was shooting them with this (on fl4k) and now I know that it uses melee effects
Anything that alters your melee also alters the damage output of this thing, not just those specific items. There's a lot of potential with this thing.
The shooting star shield is insane with this. On Zane you can give it to your clone aswell
By the nine, what a glorious gun. If you give that to your Jarl I will name you Thane of Windhelm.
This is one of the best M10 weapons with melee buff artifacts.
I like that with this you can still main a gun if you use a melee build
ah yes, my favorite map on Skywell, Promethea
It now drops from the mudlock in floodmor basin. The area where you use the crane to get in.
MAN YOUR OWN JACKHAMMER
MAN YOUR BATTLE STATIONS
Keep it up man. I'm loving the videos!
Man your own Jack hammer is a coheed and cambria reference
The Face Puncher with a Roid Rough Rider shield and melee buffs on your class mod and artifact = win. White Elephant would be the cherry on top.
Raid rough rider shield+Face puncher Best Friends lol 👏
FerhatKırdudu brawler ward
+ Melee Amara
Thats patched now
@@deadmeme69noice still works for me
@@deadmeme69noice both shield glitches still work.
He did the Handsome Jackhammer, not this. Jackhammer also drops from Jackie, which is why I think some of you think he covered this already.
No mention of Cutpurse?!
God I love that noise so much
Informative as always, keep up the great work!!!
I found this gun in a toilet 🤣
That's hilarious
Can i farm wothout mayham mode
@@01Achtung yes, but some legendaries which are the newer ones in this borderlands as the op boss killers of mob which handle them easier for more efficient suff statistically as well as a bigger percentage of oranges to drop i would say two to one but you can go at your own pace as putting the time in can equal anyways
@@standardofexcellence ok thank you for helping
(So i didnt got it but i have about 30 nibblejacks i am farming now about 4 days XD)
Using this with a relic that replenishes ammo after a melee attack means you can create a reliable Infinite ammo system
Do u know where t9 farm it after update?
Face Puncher + Shooting Star or Brawler Ward shield + Cryo or Fire Stone White Elephant + Breaker class mod (and all 3 melee skills)= Deletion of all mobs and bosses in seconds for Amara. Even on Mayhem 4. You have to constantly break your own shield and turn off the last 2 blue Guardian rank skills to keep your shield broken but it absolutely wrecks everything. It's my favorite way to play Amara. Her life steal and damage reduction makes it so shields aren't necessary anyway. The only thing I can't do with the melee build yet is True Takedown mode. But I'm also not very good at the game so I'm sure others can solo True Takedown with a melee Amara.
DLC Vladof launcher weapon idea- The "Fuel Rad".
Element: Radiation
Special effect: Fires glowing projectiles that reduce action skill cooldown by a small amount on a direct hit
Red text: "Out of your reach"
Halo?
@@aunnamedinternetuser9362 Yes indeed it is a Halo reference
I prefer a Dahl Sniper with that same effect. Kinda lack those. Besides we have a TON of good Vladof RLs.
Just woke up I know I'm gonna love it
I really hate how I play on PS4. I can't download your saves and play with them! Keep on going Joltz!
Also really good with a cutpurse relic for tediore shotgun throws.
You did this before I thought
Yah I have this with a melee heal relic on my moze and its pretty epic
Your videos help me alot
This can also deal any element damage, from the ^element stone^
Captain Planetoid relic's fun with Face Puncher. It gives bonus elemental melee that rotates the element type.
@@PlebNCthem: What elements your gun
Me: its surprise
@@gr1m720 You never have to worry about whether your gun's element is strong if it shoots all the elements (periodically).
Yeah I had alot of fun with this thing on my melee Amara..
Do the white elephant stickies get melee bonus? Also do they increase in damage the more there is?
If you are playing melee Amara this is ESSENTIAL for the build
Thanks joltz
I would like to know the build you use for moze like class mods and artifacts and shields as I am running a similar setup but have not optimized it perfectly yet
Joltz what is your favorite gun and what is the gun that you think is the best??
joltz could u pls release that melee build u were using with fl4k (looks pretty epic)
Can you add more gun/relic synergies in weapon guides?
Or cutpurse plus tediore shotgun
Can I get a recommendation for melee FL4K? Sounds fun to me
This thing can be used with a Cutpurse artefact to supply ammo for SMG Tediore reloads, yes?
Shotguns. But yes
I have this, the white elephant, and a shooting star shield on my amara it wrecks!... (when I'm not in a area the star is bugged at...)
What grenade are you using to break your shield?
Hey joltz ( or whoever else reads this ) what do you think of tvhm i played all the
Previous games to max level and went through all modes and this one I didn't even bother so I just power leveled
My characters that completed the game and then made a new character ( moze ) I Played a little bit because I thought it would be like the others, more difficult, levels to gain but all my characters
Where a level or two from max and were shredding up the more "difficult" enemies
Is it possible to roll a roider rough rider shield? That would be pretty neat with this gun.
Hey joltz, can we get a level 53 updated zane build?
Can you make a video on that fl4k build.
This weapon can have elemental damage if you use certain relics and skills
Is +weapon damage anointment better or worse than the +melee damage anointment on this gun?
Joltz, I found this weapon with 50% elemental ASE, wil that still work for melee build?
Might be pretty good with elemental projector planetoid and breaker mod. Although melee Amara isn't too good in M4 overall cuz you can die really fuckin quick, without a constant source of healing
@@AbsolutelyMenti
It's actually really good on Mayham 4. With the right gear an annoinments it just destroys everything and it's also one of the tankiest builds. Probably one of the most underrated builds.
@@EskiMosher yeah that's the catch 22 for me tho. I don't have a lot of god roll anoints on a lot of my gear. I can still kill enemies just fine on M4 with my build but I just can't survive when Anointed and rocket launching badasses come out. I haven't come across anyone else that's told me otherwise either so that's why I said it wasn't viable, just based on my experience.
@@EskiMosher mind sharing or linking your build?
@@AbsolutelyMenti
(redundent) facepuncher with 300% weapon damage after phaseslam
(low level) Brawlerward with 200% melee after ps
Granade with 50% elementel damage on ase
Breaker class mod
Knifedrain static charge(for mobbing)
White elefant(for bossing)
All melee skills and 5 in infusion
And bonus for magazin size and actionskill cooldown on classmod/relic helps alot(i don't have those yet)
How do the elemental melee prefixes perform on this? I could see Cyro Stones being kinda useful
On a Amara you can use a firestone relic and an action skill element with infusion? I forget the name but basically you can have two elements on this gun if you want
Face puncher with cutpurse white elephant is my digi clones’ besty for the resty🤟🏾
What was that pistol that Joltz was using with Moze?
Scoville you get it from handsome jackpot dlc for destroying all the hot sauce bottles for Torgue
MrSurprise 22 Damn I don’t have that DLC, yet.
@@anakinfire9 That's good you can only get it by mail so if you did have it would be 50 with the new levels you can get a higher one
Didnt you did it already?
I'm playing a melee build! PEW PEW PEW!
Seriously I'm not fond of this gun at all because it's more like a bandaid fix for actual melee which simply doesn't work in this game because of how boss encounters are designed.
Also melee used to be able to crit in BL 2. Made playing melee only zero or krieg fun and viable. Not sure why they removed that in BL 3.
BL1 too
Can you go over the love machine submachine gun
the sound is from knife drain, not white elephant.
Ugh, I had the perfect phaseslam build a month ago and now the new lvl cap practically made it obsolete! At least I need to farm for a new redundant Facepuncher w/ the 300% anointment.
Yeah, I always dread when they raise the level cap. I do like to build my characters as powerful as they can be, but I hate when my hard-earned gear is rendered meaningless because of it.
Use the cutpurse, you can get all ammo back
I love using it with the Planetoid. 😂
I'm surprised you haven't done this video already
Can you please go over the tigs boom again, it recently got fixed
Lol you use the fast slide cryo artifact too. I cant play without it since I got it.
It's nice for those annoying homing attacks and to avoid some moves on bosses
imagine this gun on Krieg holy shit
You can’t get it form handsome jaccie now you have to get it from the annointed enemy in fort sunshine
nice video, I know all about this gun but I clicked enyways
This gun is too good with Amara. I combo it with a 75% melee lifesteal relic and a melee ammo steal relic making it so I never lose the battle of attrition
if the only damage modifier is melee damage, could a low level one be just as effective as a max level one?
It's a shame they patched the glitch with this gun and the roid rough rider shield, they always like to patch out the fun glitches.
Weird, i tries that last week and it was working perfectly fine. Maybe check your new gear and see if there's a max shield bonus. That's usually the reason the glitch won't work.
it works with Ward shield
Gun shoots mele damage for hella damage on amara, yet TheGlitchingQueen uses it as a normal gun on Zane or whoever
love you joltz
So here's a question: If I have a relic that gives +25% weapon damage, does that bonus apply to Face Puncher as it's a weapon or is it exempt because it thinks it's melee?
Can u update this cause I just farmed her for an hour before finding out she no longer drops it
Have to know if the face puncher is boosted by both shotgun/weapon damage and melee buffs since it's a shotgun that does melee dmg.
Looking to farm a cutpurse white elephant and need to know if I should be looking for shotgun DMG melee dmg or both.
what pistol are you using?
funny thing i get a lot of this weapons and never pickup, and now what i know what it does i will probably will not get one anymore
I'm on Fl4k sniper build and accidentally paired this gun with white elephant. Then it's make me curious why this gun deal way more damage than my Skullmasher..... So i'm google Face puncher and found this. Now i know and i think i've to try Fl4k melee build next.
She doesn’t even dedicated drop this thing… farmed till 4 and got some sick jackhammers but no face punched
Flakker next?
This is my gub, ive played for about three days and gotten like 4
Really, my gub is the monocle.
Incase anyone wants to know you can actually increase damage the damage not only by melee but through Gun damage & Weapon damage 👍
Amara mains: it's free real estate
Does the Thunderball fists do melee damage yet??
No I tested it and no luck :(
I love these intros Joltz!
Unleash the dragon is best used without the facepuncher. Elemental melee amara BREAKS the unleash the dragon. Burns for upwards up 60-100 thousand
Krieg: *heavy breathing*
Unlish the dragon with this gun is actually very bad because the dot damage only account for a single pellet damage so it would be extremely low
Nah I think its good to have other gear along with this in the video since no one realistically is gonna explore any options with the weapon if you dont show what it can do
rules in a spiritual driver build
Face mcshooty would be happy
How do you find motivation to play this game.. you got like every legendary.. I'm sure you got the 4 characters to lv 50 and you completed the whole game and dlc. What else is there to do??
Build optimisation? Improving your strategies for bosses and takedowns? Build experimentation? Getting better variants of gear? Playing in co-op? Beating the takedown in True Takedown mode? Getting all the cosmetics? Doing playthroughs of the game with specific self-imposed restrictions (e.g. 1 life/ironman, no action skill, manufacturer allegiance runs, etc)? Speedrunning the story? Speedrunning the Proving Grounds?
Is it a mayhem mode 4 gun ?
What was the pistol he used to kill Jackie