Just found your video and subscribed to your channel. Being a scientist myself, I enjoyed this video; it was straight forward and to the point. I have been doing research (prior to starting) on water drop collision photography, and after watching this video I ordered the full Pluto setup for use with my relatively new FujiFilm X-T4 camera. I have not yet gotten a flash unit, but had a question regarding the use of a flash with the Pluto Trigger. You mentioned in the video that it was (many times) better to have more than one flash for the water drop collisions although you were using just one. My question for you (or perhaps your other viewers) is: Does the Pluto Trigger support multiple remote flashes? I noted in reviewing the Pluto Trigger that it appears to have only one output jack for triggering a flash. Thank you for the great video, I will be following your channel in the future. I hope you will do some further videos regarding the Pluto Trigger and its many functions. I believe that the Pluto Website states that the trigger has a total of 24 modes/functions.
That was very cool Jonas. Would doing photo bursts come close and using different lighting without a flash work? I really like these types of videos you two put out. Thanks very much. Looks and sounds very time consuming. Cheers, Jeff O
You know, I am actually not sure it would. All the other droplet photography experts I have found claim that the flash firing as quickly as possible (ie. not staying lit for long) is the key to getting these pictures.There is just so much motion blur otherwise. But hey, maybe if you can get enough light to bump the shutter speed up as fast as possible, then maybe it could work. I would have to test it out (if I could find enough lights... :) ) The system with the flash is by far the easiest I can think of. And considering it only took about 1hr between starting to set up to when I got the first ok shots I was really impressed. As always thanks for support and comments Jeff!
You would most likely get motion blur if you did it without a flash. It's the light from the flash that freezes the moment with a rapid emission of light. The lower the flash power the shorter the duration, so 1/128 flash power is the quickest option (1/23.000 sec on my flash). In this type of photography the flash kinda acts like your shutter speed. Here is a link with some tables that shows the flash settings converted to shutter speeds :) improvephotography.com/46974/flash-duration-speedlights-long-pop-flash/
Great video and I will consider getting those parts. Mainly the Pluto trigger but rest of the items too. Can use for more things I think. Thanks for the info.
Thanks! Yes, the Pluto is really cool. And it packs so many other trigger functions. Sound, lightning, light, movement, breaking of a laser beam... So cool. Good luck!
I agree with JBratt. LOTS of shots and lots of misses. The action happens so ridiculously fast that I can't even see it without the flash. Trying to time it "manually"... I can't even imaging how I would do it. But if you get some good shots without the trigger I would love to see them! Thanks as always for commenting! - Jonas
First Man is one of my favorites to watch! Too bad his trigger is expensive compared to the Pluto trigger! I love my Pluto trigger I just wish I had more time to play with it!
Thank you. But sorry, I actually won't be able to help you with xantham gum stuff. I suggest checking the tutorials by First Man Photography for that. He's a master here. :)
I am happy with the clamp I have that I got from the Pluto Trigger shop but I think there are many different solutions to this. If budget is a problem I I am pretty sure you could build your own quite easy. If you are searching around for different solutions I think you could also look at chemistry lab items. Many times there in chemistry setups you need to clamp flaska or glass pipettes etc to a stand for different reasons. This is something I am thinking would be great for a bunch of different photography ideas I have. They are usually really stable. Good luck and thanks for commenting!
You know I actually think it took way less time to get started than I expected. In about 1hr from starting to set things up I had my first Ok photos. I thought that was pretty good considering all the pieces that go into making this possible. Thanks for commenting and glad you liked the result! :) - Jonas
Looks like it. If you click the link that takes you to the Pluto page and check the different cables to choose from to connect the Pluto device to the camera you can see all the camera models they have listed. I just did a quick search and it looks like most/many of the Sony and Panasonic mirrorless cameras are there. Good luck!
You got a big Sony there doing 120fps, I got a tiny Sony doing like 500fps at an workable resolution that is nice because I don't have any off camera flashes. But why do droplets? Throw a bucket full of water or let some grapes impact. Highspeed photography is a skill that needs experience and precision. Like the guy that shot a bullet splitting a playing card in half in 1930 with large format cameras.
Hey! My Sony shoots 240fps at HD1080 but that is not even close to getting crisp images compared to the timed high res RAW photos I could get out of synching the camera flash with the dropper. I honestly don't think I could have got images like this freezing the action at the exact moment without using the trigger-flash system I had. At least not in any comparable quality as the high res RAW photos I get from the still camera. But I agree, there are a lot more things to experiment here. I have only really scraped the surface. More to come. Thanks for commenting. - Jonas
I understand this is quite a significant cost but in reference to other similar setups I think it is a pretty good deal. Plus, it comes packed with a bunch of other features that replaces other remote controls that you would need for timelapse photography and stuff like that, usually at least $50, and there is a laser trigger unit included that fires the camera if something, like a bird or bat, breaks a laser beam. I am not saying it is a price that everyone will be able to pay, but I will say that I think the price is justified from their end. It is a pretty cool unit.
Just found your video and subscribed to your channel. Being a scientist myself, I enjoyed this video; it was straight forward and to the point. I have been doing research (prior to starting) on water drop collision photography, and after watching this video I ordered the full Pluto setup for use with my relatively new FujiFilm X-T4 camera. I have not yet gotten a flash unit, but had a question regarding the use of a flash with the Pluto Trigger. You mentioned in the video that it was (many times) better to have more than one flash for the water drop collisions although you were using just one. My question for you (or perhaps your other viewers) is: Does the Pluto Trigger support multiple remote flashes?
I noted in reviewing the Pluto Trigger that it appears to have only one output jack for triggering a flash.
Thank you for the great video, I will be following your channel in the future. I hope you will do some further videos regarding the Pluto Trigger and its many functions. I believe that the Pluto Website states that the trigger has a total of 24 modes/functions.
i agree droplet photografie is very addictiff but so much fun to do
Great work
Thank you!
That was very cool Jonas. Would doing photo bursts come close and using different lighting without a flash work? I really like these types of videos you two put out. Thanks very much. Looks and sounds very time consuming.
Cheers, Jeff O
You know, I am actually not sure it would. All the other droplet photography experts I have found claim that the flash firing as quickly as possible (ie. not staying lit for long) is the key to getting these pictures.There is just so much motion blur otherwise. But hey, maybe if you can get enough light to bump the shutter speed up as fast as possible, then maybe it could work. I would have to test it out (if I could find enough lights... :) ) The system with the flash is by far the easiest I can think of. And considering it only took about 1hr between starting to set up to when I got the first ok shots I was really impressed. As always thanks for support and comments Jeff!
You would most likely get motion blur if you did it without a flash. It's the light from the flash that freezes the moment with a rapid emission of light.
The lower the flash power the shorter the duration, so 1/128 flash power is the quickest option (1/23.000 sec on my flash). In this type of photography the flash kinda acts like your shutter speed.
Here is a link with some tables that shows the flash settings converted to shutter speeds :) improvephotography.com/46974/flash-duration-speedlights-long-pop-flash/
I don't have an external flash. Can I do this in natural sunlight?
Great video and I will consider getting those parts. Mainly the Pluto trigger but rest of the items too. Can use for more things I think. Thanks for the info.
Thanks! Yes, the Pluto is really cool. And it packs so many other trigger functions. Sound, lightning, light, movement, breaking of a laser beam... So cool. Good luck!
just the start of the video hooked me , so cinematic!
Thank you! :) 🙏 😊
Great video!! But how would you do this without the trigger?? Greetings from Chile!!!
Listondmp I have done it but there are a lot of misses. Just keep shooting and time it out like hitting a baseball.
I agree with JBratt. LOTS of shots and lots of misses. The action happens so ridiculously fast that I can't even see it without the flash. Trying to time it "manually"... I can't even imaging how I would do it. But if you get some good shots without the trigger I would love to see them! Thanks as always for commenting! - Jonas
Science Filmmaking Tips I will try... and see what happens... greetings Cristian
First Man is one of my favorites to watch! Too bad his trigger is expensive compared to the Pluto trigger! I love my Pluto trigger I just wish I had more time to play with it!
Yes, I feel the same. I first looked into the other trigger systems but when I found the Pluto I just had to test it out. Thanks for commenting!
cool! Thanx for the idea!
Anytime! It really is a cool system.
Excellent tutorial, thanks a lot. Do you know the proportions using xanthan gum? Mixing with the water?
Thank you. But sorry, I actually won't be able to help you with xantham gum stuff. I suggest checking the tutorials by First Man Photography for that. He's a master here. :)
Hi wich cabel dobu use between camera and flash also trigger und flash
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The only thing I don't have is a stand for the dropper. What do recommend? I have Miosp dropper
I am happy with the clamp I have that I got from the Pluto Trigger shop but I think there are many different solutions to this. If budget is a problem I I am pretty sure you could build your own quite easy. If you are searching around for different solutions I think you could also look at chemistry lab items. Many times there in chemistry setups you need to clamp flaska or glass pipettes etc to a stand for different reasons. This is something I am thinking would be great for a bunch of different photography ideas I have. They are usually really stable. Good luck and thanks for commenting!
wow!! pretty, pretty cool!
Man, so cool the intro :) I cheked twice if the channel is correct hahah, love it
Much job, but it gives a really nice result! Thank you!
You know I actually think it took way less time to get started than I expected. In about 1hr from starting to set things up I had my first Ok photos. I thought that was pretty good considering all the pieces that go into making this possible. Thanks for commenting and glad you liked the result! :) - Jonas
Does this work with mirrorless cameras
Looks like it. If you click the link that takes you to the Pluto page and check the different cables to choose from to connect the Pluto device to the camera you can see all the camera models they have listed. I just did a quick search and it looks like most/many of the Sony and Panasonic mirrorless cameras are there. Good luck!
@@robnelsonfilms hell yea thanks for the reply man!!!
@@ivonahumpalot538 Of course! Anytime! :)
You got a big Sony there doing 120fps, I got a tiny Sony doing like 500fps at an workable resolution that is nice because I don't have any off camera flashes.
But why do droplets? Throw a bucket full of water or let some grapes impact.
Highspeed photography is a skill that needs experience and precision. Like the guy that shot a bullet splitting a playing card in half in 1930 with large format cameras.
Hey! My Sony shoots 240fps at HD1080 but that is not even close to getting crisp images compared to the timed high res RAW photos I could get out of synching the camera flash with the dropper. I honestly don't think I could have got images like this freezing the action at the exact moment without using the trigger-flash system I had. At least not in any comparable quality as the high res RAW photos I get from the still camera. But I agree, there are a lot more things to experiment here. I have only really scraped the surface. More to come. Thanks for commenting. - Jonas
Dropper and trigger setup...... saddly much too expensive for the rest of us.
I understand this is quite a significant cost but in reference to other similar setups I think it is a pretty good deal. Plus, it comes packed with a bunch of other features that replaces other remote controls that you would need for timelapse photography and stuff like that, usually at least $50, and there is a laser trigger unit included that fires the camera if something, like a bird or bat, breaks a laser beam.
I am not saying it is a price that everyone will be able to pay, but I will say that I think the price is justified from their end. It is a pretty cool unit.
It can be done with an eyedropper and a flash, but it's more prone to human error and bad timing.
The setup makes it easier though. Have a nice day :)