They look nice. But the woofers seemed somewhat misleading with those super wide dust-caps. I almost thought the voicecoil was going to be very wide in diameter.
This line of the DM600S3 series is my absolute favorite. In sound AND looks. I have the DM603S3 and thr DM601S3. I bought them in 2005 and have been impressed for almost 20 years. But looking at this breakdown has taken some luster off of my "magic boxes". I still love them. But looking at the insides and the components makes me feel like I should try building my own. I still love them though. I might see if I can find a used quality DM604S3 just to compare.
They all shared same drivers/etc so its same just larger. I've also had the 604S2 for over 15+ years, best investment I've made, out lasted multiple PCs and other equipment and can go up against anything new and similar price range in a stereo shop. Building your own is hard... easier to start with subs, less resonance/etc technicalities in design to learn.
@@Techscrews, damn that sucks. I have heard that it is a solution to use a needle to pop a tweeter out. But I would NEVER do that. By the way it's a nice pair of speakers. ✌️
@@shaktipatil3174 hey, I've tried to look them up, and I'm pretty sure I've found the right one: www.speakerrepairshop.nl/en/tweeters/b-w/b-w-tweeter-for-dm600-s3-till-dm604-s3-series-black/a-3588-10000076
This was not a very high model at the time, so material reflect this. I have few pairs of 604S2 and 605S2 and boxes are pretty much same. Money went into drivers, boxes are ok for price. Bit chunky, so happier in bigger rooms.
It’s unfortunate that you bought a surround receiver, as it’s not the best choice for listening to stereo music. For those who want to enjoy a quality music experience, an integrated stereo amp is usually the better choice; fewer features mean a cleaner amplifier. It's difficult to recommend specific bookshelf speakers because it depends on the type of music you listen to, the room size, and other factors. The best approach is to visit a local audio store, listen to several bookshelf speakers in the demo room, and choose the ones that sound best to you within your budget.
It's not that B&W is any worse than Magnat Transpuls and all the others you had dissected, but it just goes to show that in the audiophile and Hi-Fi speaker racket, 90% of what you pay for is gimmicks, marketing hoopla, and vapor. All of them seem to eb building these things as inexpensively as possible. How much they end up costing -- that is where the "walking bullsh_t" part of the business equation becomes prevalent. Not picking on one single mfr -- they are all guilty as sin of doing this.
@@aapaap8595 but if you make a tower from 18mm mdf with the dimensions 100x30x30cm your enclosure already weighs 16kg and thats without any bracing or anything. So of manufacturers want to make a heavy speaker so it looks premium on the spec sheet they will just use mdf or more mdf then on their cheap speakers. Weight only says something about the enclosures not so much about the driver unless you know the driver weight
This is the comment I’ve been looking for! I’ve always wondered why are most of these “named brand” speakers soooo expensive. I’ve seen sets that cost up to $250,000+. That’s ridiculous!
@@Techscrews Don't press sides of the tweeter, you'll only make things worse. Instead, use good-quality duct tape to get that out. Did that several times.
If you put them on spikes and away from wall/corner/etc the bass is clean. If you want even less port bass then stuff them and run sealed with a sealed 10" sub, they are clean and go down to 25Hz or better that way :) For very low yes you need a bigger room.
ive heard that film caps can be too bright and need resistors added in to smooth down, personally i have just replaced the electrolytics in my kef caras with new electrolytic mundorf brand caps and i am really pleased with the sound quality
They look well built, but personally I hate that they use plastics even in rather expensive speakers. Also metal domes NEED protection. This is just a strategy to keep people buying new speakers.
If you really want your cat to help, you should disassemble stuff as soon as you bring them into your place. I don't know, man, I think B&W are just crazy expensive. Excellent speakers, ofc, how could they not be, but I think we both know ppl who can do the same job on half their budget.
@@Techscrews Good to know! Going to get a couple pairs of these soon then! I've heard them a few times in the store and like them better than Sony and Polk so far!
Schon vom aussehen. Puuuh.und warum unbedingt alu membrane? Sieh genauso schäbig aus wie die magnat Chassis. Und wieder ist das crossover ein Debakel. DIY.!!!!
@@Techscrews Not ears not eyes this speakers good for box my shoes 😂 JBL,Infinity,B&W,Monito Audio ,Mordaunt Short,Mission and more junk speakers.ŠŠŠŠŠŠŠ cccccc zzzzzzzz brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrrb no music
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They look nice. But the woofers seemed somewhat misleading with those super wide dust-caps. I almost thought the voicecoil was going to be very wide in diameter.
This line of the DM600S3 series is my absolute favorite. In sound AND looks. I have the DM603S3 and thr DM601S3. I bought them in 2005 and have been impressed for almost 20 years. But looking at this breakdown has taken some luster off of my "magic boxes". I still love them. But looking at the insides and the components makes me feel like I should try building my own.
I still love them though. I might see if I can find a used quality DM604S3 just to compare.
They all shared same drivers/etc so its same just larger. I've also had the 604S2 for over 15+ years, best investment I've made, out lasted multiple PCs and other equipment and can go up against anything new and similar price range in a stereo shop.
Building your own is hard... easier to start with subs, less resonance/etc technicalities in design to learn.
YOU CAN EASLY REPAir that tweeter. remove the dome with the three nuts and line it up with your fingers
We know how to fix it, but too bad that there is a small hole in the center of if and it creates distortion, so we just replaced it
@@Techscrews, damn that sucks.
I have heard that it is a solution to use a needle to pop a tweeter out.
But I would NEVER do that.
By the way it's a nice pair of speakers. ✌️
@@Techscrews where do we get these tweeters from! Its not available anywhere, if you know the dealer please let me know. Thanks
@@shaktipatil3174 hey, I've tried to look them up, and I'm pretty sure I've found the right one: www.speakerrepairshop.nl/en/tweeters/b-w/b-w-tweeter-for-dm600-s3-till-dm604-s3-series-black/a-3588-10000076
@@shaktipatil3174, you can also get them in grey. ✌️
build quality is very good, still performing after 10 years now at loud levels
Really nice video and presentation! :) Beautiful woofers, I love discovered voice coils.
This was not a very high model at the time, so material reflect this. I have few pairs of 604S2 and 605S2 and boxes are pretty much same. Money went into drivers, boxes are ok for price. Bit chunky, so happier in bigger rooms.
You can just pull the 4 screws from the face panel and leave the speakers attached.
I’ve realized I should just build my own…thanks
А рамы у динамиков из пластика или из аллюминия?
Да, корпус металлический.
i liked your video man, nice work ,
the chassis of the bass speakers is made of aluminum ?
Yes, the chassis is made of metal.
Tweeter damaged ☹️
Отличное видео,спасибо! Привет из России!!! Когда будет разборка Focal Chora 826 ???
Спасибо, ближайший разборка будет Focal 807V
@@Techscrews Хорошо
I thought they uses 24 gold metal to make internal parts
Sir ...Which Bookshelf speaker best for Yamaha RX. -N600 av ..for Music listening I want details and clear sound signature under 500-700 US Dollar
It’s unfortunate that you bought a surround receiver, as it’s not the best choice for listening to stereo music. For those who want to enjoy a quality music experience, an integrated stereo amp is usually the better choice; fewer features mean a cleaner amplifier. It's difficult to recommend specific bookshelf speakers because it depends on the type of music you listen to, the room size, and other factors. The best approach is to visit a local audio store, listen to several bookshelf speakers in the demo room, and choose the ones that sound best to you within your budget.
Audiophilers should enjoy not only the sound but also the music 😊
Techscrew which one do you prefer 603 S3 or 604 S3 - i'm not talking about bass it is obvious that 604 has more bass.
Also injoyed the music
It's not that B&W is any worse than Magnat Transpuls and all the others you had dissected, but it just goes to show that in the audiophile and Hi-Fi speaker racket, 90% of what you pay for is gimmicks, marketing hoopla, and vapor. All of them seem to eb building these things as inexpensively as possible. How much they end up costing -- that is where the "walking bullsh_t" part of the business equation becomes prevalent. Not picking on one single mfr -- they are all guilty as sin of doing this.
Yup! Look at the crappy crossover's inside and the cheap crappy caps. particle board boxes :( Cheap cheap with over marketed technical gorgon !@
The woofers looks like an ordinary speakers, the wood material used only cheap, the other brands of hi end speakers use hi quality real wood.
Lol, they weigh between 25 and 30kg each. Don't talk crap when you know nothing about them.
@@aapaap8595 but if you make a tower from 18mm mdf with the dimensions 100x30x30cm your enclosure already weighs 16kg and thats without any bracing or anything.
So of manufacturers want to make a heavy speaker so it looks premium on the spec sheet they will just use mdf or more mdf then on their cheap speakers.
Weight only says something about the enclosures not so much about the driver unless you know the driver weight
This is the comment I’ve been looking for! I’ve always wondered why are most of these “named brand” speakers soooo expensive. I’ve seen sets that cost up to $250,000+. That’s ridiculous!
Hey! I have similar ones but I know that mines have the same tweeter as yours.
Do you know where I can find the tweeter replacements on a site?
On ebay or write message your local bw dealer.
Hola donde puedo comprar Twitter de reemplazo para dm 604 s3. Saludos
please eng :)
where can i buy replacement twitter for dm4 s3 in usa. greetings and thanks.
Its dead and no sound or just visual defect ?
@@Techscrews the coil or winding burned and the affected dome
@@ismaelcamilomendezlopez9468 then your friend is local bw dealer.
I have the S2. Beautiful to see quality inside on speaker design. You can get the dent out of the tweeter by gently pressing side of the dents.
thanks for tip :)
@@Techscrews Don't press sides of the tweeter, you'll only make things worse.
Instead, use good-quality duct tape to get that out.
Did that several times.
I've tried all sorts of ways. The best way is with hot glue and a cocktail straw
I have owned these speakers and the only gripe I had with them was that they need quite a large room as they can be bass heavy
If you put them on spikes and away from wall/corner/etc the bass is clean. If you want even less port bass then stuff them and run sealed with a sealed 10" sub, they are clean and go down to 25Hz or better that way :)
For very low yes you need a bigger room.
Hi ,great video! Thx for the good job,is there a individual chamber for midrange and tweeter
yes :)
Finally!
Electrolyt capacitors. Bravo B&W you saved 10 $ ...
53 and 150 uF caps are gonna electro, haha.
ive heard that film caps can be too bright and need resistors added in to smooth down, personally i have just replaced the electrolytics in my kef caras with new electrolytic mundorf brand caps and i am really pleased with the sound quality
@@TheCornishGingerOfficial they're part of the mid-woofer to woofer xover. It has films for the tweeter at the minimum
Wonderful job👍 love it😊
thanks :)
good quality drivers
How do you know?
@@frankfarago2825 Casting, magnet, basket, materials, fit and finish etc... the yellow one is kevlar.
I have the same speakers with the same tweeter problem. Do you know of an upgraded tweeter that fits?
only stock, but I just put on grills and I continue to enjoy music :)
Твитеры какие интересные - с пробиркой сзади и купол вогнутый ))
Whose fingers ruined that tweeter? Need a nice sharp set of scissors. But also, KITTY!!!😻😻😻😻😻
these look like SEAS or Fountek drivers...
maybe, but I love how these speakers sound. For $400 for second hand pair these are killers.
@@Techscrews no doubt about that...i was curious if we can find out the manufacturer
They look well built, but personally I hate that they use plastics even in rather expensive speakers. Also metal domes NEED protection. This is just a strategy to keep people buying new speakers.
Awesome video man thx
Огонь 🔥
If you really want your cat to help, you should disassemble stuff as soon as you bring them into your place. I don't know, man, I think B&W are just crazy expensive. Excellent speakers, ofc, how could they not be, but I think we both know ppl who can do the same job on half their budget.
Корзина из пластика или и металла?
металла
top speaker using alglomerate panels 4:33 no f way
Паролона и ваты не пожалели! Молодцы!
There''s a cat inside...that is a fine speaker.
do they sound good? Worth the money?
Of course, they sound amazing good, but a lot of them have damaged tweeters on second hand markets.
@@Techscrews Good to know! Going to get a couple pairs of these soon then! I've heard them a few times in the store and like them better than Sony and Polk so far!
PLYWOOD? damn. My real wood tannoys kick ass.
Thanks!!!
The quality control is not good when they are shipped with a live cat in them..
That's the most expensive "pillow" ever found, inside those speakers.
Very cool
maybe it's me but those speakers look chincy once taken apart, but.......WTF do I know :)
Lo único me pareció qué la madera no es MDF.
Nniiiccceee bro omg😎👍💪😎👍💪🔥🔥😱🤯😬😬
Thanks for the visit
if someone sells crossover parts and amp parts I will buy them,
What kind of amp ?
Зачем твитер замял?( НЕ хороший!) А так респект автору!
Bad materials for price.
Para lo que valen i esas cajas echas de novo pan cajas mui mala calidad al final pagas por la marca no por la calidad
Eng please
again electrolytes in the filter !! replace with film! Twitter align the membrane with a vacuum cleaner at low power ...
Hope they were $1200 new, if they were pre owned you've been ripped off
Still made in good old England instead of China nowadays
we completely agree, it is pleasing to the ears, real English sound.
Not really... since only the 8xxs are really made in UK, but all the other series below in China for sure! :)
Not even 12-gauge wire!!! Just cheap thin wire.
there is no reason for such a large wire, it is too short.
Hm speaker
Schon vom aussehen. Puuuh.und warum unbedingt alu membrane? Sieh genauso schäbig aus wie die magnat Chassis. Und wieder ist das crossover ein Debakel. DIY.!!!!
Please eng :)
Shit speakers crossover cable box plastic front panel coil 1,5 oma 😛B&W 😂😂😂😂😂
Use your ears, not your eyes, when choosing loudspeakers. B&W makes very good-sounding speakers.
@@Techscrews 😁
@@Techscrews Not ears not eyes this speakers good for box my shoes 😂 JBL,Infinity,B&W,Monito Audio ,Mordaunt Short,Mission and more junk speakers.ŠŠŠŠŠŠŠ cccccc zzzzzzzz brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrrb no music