12] Sailing For The First Time…In a Year | Abandon Comfort
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- We get off the dock..finally!! We needed it almost as bad as Luci’s standing rigging needs a tune & her jib halyard needs tension. Join us again next Thursday at 10pm EST for Episode 13!! Huge thanks as always to our AC Crew - we couldn’t do this without you guys!
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Why do you need the 'bad elf' gps plug in module - when IPad's have gps already built in - and they don't need WiFi or Cellular to run?? Is this some kind of better Ant?
Since we get this question a lot I'm going to pin this. We use the Bad Elf as a backup option so we have more than 1 way of obtaining a GPS fix. The iPads that have GPS built in are the 3G enabled ones, which is what we use as our primaries. 2 3g iPads that use built-in GPS, 1 wifi only iPad that uses Bad Elf. Hope this helps!
I also use iPads for navigation. In my case, the external GPS is a Garmin Glo but same principle. External GPS has two advantages. 1. You get a better fix than the internal GPS of the iPad. 2. Having the iPAD GPS do the fix is a huge power drain. By using an iPad with internal GPS, AND the external unit, you've also created a two tier back up. For what it's worth, I use iSaiilor predominantly, also iNavx with NOAA raster charts. Sailing on the Chesapeake on an Alberg 35.
@@jameseaton905 good info man, thx.
What happened?
the unit he has plugged in is at least 10x better.
PFD, compass and reliable papercharts. Know how to use them. Thats for safety.
GPS in whatever shape or form is to make life easy. Challenge each other where one navigate by charts and compass and the other checks the GPS as backup.
MickeSandman, wise comment.
I always did this when flying. Of course navigation in the air (when not in IMC) is easier because there are more unique landmarks.
I also keep a pull string to start my car in case the electronics go out.
Nice video, I started in Tampa Bay with my 35' Endurance, in 1977. No GPS, only paper charts and a compass, Later to the Bahamas, just a compass. I still have a sailboat here in Mi. and still love sailing.
You two are doing great! Some free advice. Remember the advice is free and that may be what it is worth.
1. When your anemometer isn't working, as good rule is that whitecaps begin to form at 10 knots of True Wind speed.
2. As you live your life on the anchor, you will find that a 5:1 scope is a minimum safe rode length. 7:1 scope is best, and is absolutely necessary for an anchorage with current or winds.
3. You may consider a making a true anchor snubber. 3-strand nylon line attached to a bow cleat on each side will make a "bridle" that will take the strain off of your windlass. Attach the snubber to the anchor chain with a chain hook. Once the snubber is taut, pay out more anchor chain so it hags loose. The "bridle" snubber will absorb the shock of waves. Protect the snubber from chafe with ribber hose around the nylon line. Keep up the good work!
Paul Warren good advice
Paul warren
excellent advice.
that is some excellent advice.
Paul's talking about the Beaufort Wind Scale. You're not racing so it's close enough.
www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/beaufort.html
Good advice! Love watching your progress. Is your rode entirely made of chain? That could make for a rough ride in winds upwards of 35-40 knots. It would be prudent to look into techniques for adding a length of nylon with a Devil's Hook to snub the chain. Secondary anchors? A Bruce works well in sandy to muddy bottom, and would make a fine kedge as well as decent replacement if you lost your plow. Fair winds and following seas :-)
We just went and bought an entire new NMEA-2k system from B&G last year. The Triton Display Depth, Speed & Wind Pack and a Vulcan 7 chartplotter are great, and 100% dead reliable so far. All in all it was about $2k for the whole package on sale as a deal, but it's really nice having everything working together as one piece of integrated hardware.
The Navionics charts are extra, of course. The iPad system is great but it is really nice to have the wind data and speed over water integrated into the GPS data and the plotter using all that data to give you even more using the maths. This shows tides, currents, and gives you information about when and where exactly to tack to make your next waypoint once you plug in your boat's polar sailing data. It'll even control your autopilot if it is new enough to talk to NMEA-2K. That is something the iPad just can't do. It will also show other NMEA-2k inputs like engine information if you have a fancy modern engine. Tank information, even hook up your Fusion Radio so you can control volume and stuff right from the chartplotter. If you want radar displayed then the Vulcan isn't the right plotter and one needs to spend a bit more on a Zeus upgrade but that isn't too much more compared to the radar and if you buy a bundled radar package the Zeus plotter is practically free with the radar.
Older chartplotters are garbage. I agree. But the newest stuff from B&G and Garmin are pretty good. Just make sure it is NMEA-2k compatible.
Keep up the videos. Hopefully you guys will get a little closer to current times eventually.
It's great to see your reactions and enthusiasm whilst sailing for the first time, no greater feeling than sailing with nothing but the power of nature x
Safe winds
Hey guys... A lot of GREAT first time memories on this voyage! Don't let "anyone" tell you what you did wrong or cram a bunch of suggestions down your throat. Nobody has it all figured out when shoving off for the first time. In my humble opinion...you did everything perfectly! Thank you for bringing us along to share this part of the journey with you!!! PEACE OUT!
Good job you guys. So happy for you. You Have the right approach, thoughtful and methodical. If there are things like pulling in and out of the slip or dropping anchor that make you anxious just keep reminding yourself how soon it will be that they are second nature to you, and you do without even thinking. Looking forward to watching it happen.
I have never sailed or even been on a boat. TH-cam made a completely random suggestion for your vlog and now you earned a subscriber. You guys have really inspired me to try and take up sailing as a hobby. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Way to go TH-cam!! Welcome to the AC Crew, Aravind :)
Great job! You can squeeze a bit more speed out of the boat if you adjust your halyard tension. At one point it looked you could have raised your head sail another foot or so. You will also want to put a nylon snubber on your chain and back down on that, not the windlass. The windlass is designed and mounted to handle the weight of the rode and anchor, not the weight of the boat. The nylon rode will also provide some shock absorption so the boat rides better and with less strain on the gear. Rig up some 3 strand with a chain hook and you will be good to go. Have fun!
Tim pointed out the two observations I had as well: the head sail halyard wasn't all the way up, and to use a cleated snub line attached to the anchor chain to take the weight off of the windlass.
To add to Tim's comment about the snubber...when the line is attached to both the chain and the boat, let out more chain so that it has some slack and the snubber is tensioned.
I sure do enjoy watching your adventure unfold. Don't be ashamed of your failures. I've learned way more failing than I have succeeding!
Your spirit makes me so happy! I love you two and look forward to watching you guys become salty sailors!
Great video! I love it that you share your beginners misstakes also. Reminds me of my first trials with this stuff some twenty years ago. I have also used iPad for navigation but have moved on to a Garmin navigator. The iPad does not cope with rain, but there is good protection to get. The two main reasons that I don't like it is sunglare in the screen and when it gets to hot it shuts off. Now I use a Garmin 922 (named here in Sweden, may be called something else in US) and it works great. I can still use the iPad from down below to make routes, connected to the Garmin via wifi.
Looking forward to the next video! 😎👍
I've got a 47' boat that I have cruised from Anacortes Washington to Seward Alaska. We lived on it for a year based out of Ketchikan. Our primary nav tool was an iPad Pro using Navionics, with 2 iPhones with Navionics on them for back up, plus paper charts. Both the iPad and the iPhones have built in GPS systems and worked great without any cell signal for days at a time. I am a big fan.
Hell dude and dude-et. I am in the process of doing what you guys are doing. I'm a traveling fighter who lives out of a converted truck and have been dreaming of a boat to live aboard and one day leave to travel the world. So glad to see people living like this. OSS 👊
Love the humility you show, feels like we're learning with you. Great episode!
Well done you guys! We enjoyed sharing in your first solo adventure. Thank you for posting. To many more of these!
Have enjoyed watching what you two did to make the dream come to fruition - really looking forward to the end of the year when the journey begins.
Good start guys. I'm enjoying the series and it takes me back a few years watching you. I love our portabote and find storing it keel up stops it filling with water. Good luck and fair winds.
Awesome look forward to more. Get it out there! If something is going to go wrong it is going to happen while sailing. You will figure it out as needed. Just always think of safety first.
You two are so adorable and we could feel the joy. So excited for tomorrow.
I really love watching the absolute excitement and (terror?) motivation to get underway. Bravo you guys! Can't wait until the next vid
Can't wait to watch y'all adventure further and further...you'll be expert sailors in no time. Keep the videos rolling, great work!
I have been wakeboarding my whole life, river rat, Caddo Lake Texas. When your boy said, " in typical marine fashion everyone is watching you leave, like omg someones leaving". Spot on lmao
Well done guys you got out! Pretty nerve wracking..really like your honesty
Love seeing you both sailing! Nice work!!
Awesome - Congrats to you both!
I'm proud of y'all! Be safe out there! Really enjoying your videos.
Good video nice to see you sailling. I was always told that when u anchor you should secure the chain to a cleat or the anchor chain with a snubber tied of to a cleat. But you shouldn't leave the chain on the whinch.
You guys are so awesome, I wish you both all the best with your trips. I wish I could do the same, but a 7 year old and boat life don't mix. Great video can't wait for the next.
Enjoyable.
1. If must rely on an iPad at least put it in a waterproof cover.
2. When you are securing stuff think inverted. If you going are outside the ICW sooner or later you are going to be knocked down and you do you won't appreciate a fridge in the face.
3. To save your winch wrap the chain around a cleat to snub.
Great to see you on the water, looking forward to learning how to sail with you guys ;)
keep safe
Hey guys, grand start. For sure I'll be waiting for the next one. All the best, Mick McCoy
I cant get over how incredibly beautiful this girl is...and she only gets more beautiful when she talks or explains herself. Lucky man
Thank you both for video. The yacht looks great under sail . I have read most of the other comments and there is some pretty sound advice from your subscribers. Take care and enjoy life.
You guys are bringing back such memories. We had "Luna C" in that same marina when we started. The ipad is such a great idea. All I ever used was a laptop hooked to a GPS and it served us well throughout the Caribbean. Short story about tacking. On our first trip out of Tampa bay we were heading to Key West on an over-nighter. Some where along the way Beverly was on watch and dodging crab-pots, doing a great job. EXCEPT.....when I came up for my watch I asked her where we were and she mumbled something about near Naples but the problem was land was on the starboard side of the boat, which was OK but we were heading south! There had been no wind that night and Bev would use the auto-pilot to dodge the pots by pressing the 10 degree button but she just keep pressing the same button each time and there are a lot of crab-pots in south Florida! Eventually she had the boat completely turned around and heading back toward St. Pete. Remember you guys are making memories and thanks for taking us along with you. Oh hey. Let me say everyone does the "anchor dance" differently but you guys might think about having her stay at the helm while he goes forward to handle the tackle. There will come a time when you will have to haul all that rode and chain aboard while the wind is blowing 20 knots. It takes a bit of muscle to do. Trust me on that one!
The only thing I say is to have more than one option. The charts can lie, and it is nice to have more than one source to help make an educated guess.
Nice confidence builder!! Great to see you getting out there!
So NMEA over IP is gaining a lot of traction these days, setting up a small boat wifi network and getting sensors that will contribute (GPS, AIS, anemometer, compas, etc) to the data stream would make portable/disposable/off-the-shelf display heads a truly reliable option. Something to keep an eye on.
Nice work guys. It was nice seeing you get "giddy" at 1.8 kn.
That made me laugh out load as well. I don't know how many times me and my boys have been announcing our speed to the rest of the boat!
Great video. 2 suggestions. You guys do a great job of telling us about what your doing or did. Maybe a little more showing though. Like with the anchor test. Would have been cool to see your test. Second, maybe add a float to that anchor windlass handle. Would suck to lose it overboard.
It is really hard to film this kind of action. The cameras they are using now are pretty hard to set up like that and don't really capture action very well or sound when things start to get a little crazy, or are they weather-proof enough to leave out on deck. They would have to have at least 3 or 4 times as many cameras mounted around the boat, all water-proofed with wind-proof mics to get any kind of decent audio or video out of such "action." This isn't a high-budget channel like LaVagabond and even they don't have that kind of gear to catch real action at sea.
LOVE you guys! Congrats on getting out the slip!
OK - one extra piece of advice to add to the excellent comments so far:
Run the boat back as you pay out the anchor, otherwise you will end up dumping the chain in a big pile over the anchor. Don't leave reversing until you have all the rode out!!
BTW - I use an iPad (in a LifeProof waterproof case) connected to the boat NMEA data via WiFi, it works great. If you get a VHF radio with an AIS receiver, you can show other boat tracks on the chart (using iNavx) as well as have easy comms to them via DSC. Backup is an old chart plotter and my iPhone, so 3 sources of navigation which is more than enough safety. Paper charts are on the way out IMHO, apart from ease for big picture passage planning
love your willingness to learn as you go, great couple of adventurers here!
It's good to see you out sailing. Nice!
Foot steering is a valid sailing technique. I am from Wisconsin and many of the racing scows here are designed with a cutout in the tiller crossbar specifically for steering with your feet.
Nothing wrong with Rolling Rock man,.. great easy drinkin' beer. Well done,.. didn't sink the boat so very well done!
Motivational indeed. Thanks for being awesome!
Grew up in St. Pete but, on power boats. Great to see the Bay again.
Just not used to that new bridge yet. Looking forward to you sailing
under it at night with all the suspension cable lights ablaze.
Memories of the first time watching the mast and full mainsail going under the Golden Gate during my first SF Bay still
gives me goosebumps. Been trying to clean up a friend's 1982 Cascade 36 after it has sat here in a Delta slip unmoved for over five years. Topsides, the boat has improved but, below deck, it still has too much mold...I had hoped to sail it this year. Who knows what the hull looks below waterline. Heartbreaking.
Leave your cabin clean and dry
and properly aired out and buttoned up. Don't Abandon her for long periods. Find someone you trust who will care for it when you cannot. Cinnamon, cloves and citrus below deck is wonderful.
Thank you for your videos.
Timothy from Yuba City, Ca.
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Glad to see you sailing. I like the Ipad idea, one at the nav station, one on the wheel or near the tiller! I'm retired, very new to sailing and saving for my first boat --- all of the good suggestions and comments for 'newbies' are enter in a special gmail 'draft' file for future reference/reminders after I get my boat. Doing a test anchor, before dark, was very smart. Keep going, step by step, day by day and you'll do just fine. SLV, UTL and so many others started out with little or no experience...Sail safe and enjoy...
Congratulations for the first sail by yourselves!
Guys I love your boat. Happy sailing and keep posting those vids.
Great info and such a cool episode! Very exciting!
Stumbled across this channel last night and binge watched the whole thing! Can't wait for more updates.
iPad is optional. Chart plotter is sail equipment. But basic piloting is nr 1. Get hold on updated navigation charts. Get a fixed chart position and get the best course according to your charts. Yes. Paper charts. Adjust your cours for drift and this is the safest path for your boat. Continued piloting and outlooks always.
Your DOING IT! Keep it up!
Congrats on leaving the dock! Looked like a great weekend!
Awesome!!! hoping to follow your lead sooner rather then later! (still scraping through college) Glad to see ya'll are getting out and doing!
beautiful scenery!!
Great job guys! Love the videos.
iPad for sure!! We used them on our aircraft when I was still in the service. They got approved just before I separated but we secretly used them as our primary means of navigation and course plotting with the "real" primary means as our backups. I love your content by the way. My wife and I just started going on our own adventures this year. Nothing big and crazy yet. I'd love to go sailing sometime but in terms of living on a boat, I wish it was feasible with the type of work I'm doing. Can't wait to see where you two go next. Sail Safe!!
Good thing is you two are very careful and organized
good job looks like went ok . cant wait see whats next
All caught up now, you guys are an inspiration! If you end up the Firth of Forth in Scotland there's a pint and dram waiting for you near the bridges!
as I will be traveling and living on my 34 foot sailboat you are doing a great job of giving me a feel for life on board
i love your kick ass attitude....
I have a chart plotter and a iPad with navigation apps and I use them both. Redundancy is a beautiful thing when operating in any maritime environment.
Progress! Way to go guys! Keep asking about how to improve under sail and setting anchor. You will get there!
I am learning along with you. Thanks for the detail in information. I am also learning a lot from the comments. Someday I may make it out there.
Hi, Great video. Please change how you store your foldable dinghy. You should not hang big thing like that in the lifelines. The stanchion support are not build for that on any boat. When you are hit by a big wave, you will in best case bend your stanchion. But more likely you will damage the hull. If you lift the stanchion you will see a stainless support that is laminated in to the hull. The support is strong. The hull will delaminate before you bend the support. Good luck with your cruising!
We also use the Ipad for alot of our navigation.
We do also have a chartplotter and computer but the ease of use and the cost of new chart is a big plus for the Ipad!
Good luck you guys happy sailing.
I still like the dedicated Chartplotter as the center of the navigation system and connecting via NMEA 0183 and/or 2000 to VHF radio, AIS, Radar and instruments as it is reasonably bullet proof. With a wireless interface and IP a whole new world of navigation opens for devices like iPad or Android. I use my smartphone with Android Aquamap but iPad, Tablets and any other such can connect. The anchor drag was on the smartphone that I kept with me during sleep time. This is the setup I had on my Youngsun 35 and Irwin 43. I also had a USB external GPS BU-353-S4 for the laptop plus some hand held GPS as well. Redundancy was the idea.
I like the part with " 1 knot " hahah . Great video as always :) cheers !
I literally enjoyed every minute of your videos...great job guys and wish you all the best for your journey.... Greetings from Canada
iPad with iNavX is all I use. You can download all the charts before you leave the dock. Delos crew uses the same,. Might want an otterbox or at least a ziploc bag! Another fun video!
love your videos... you two are good together... and you will become very good at sailing. enjoy life..😊😊 George from OSWEGO NEW YORK
Great job! Enjoy all your vids
Good stuff. A couple of sailing points, try bringing the traveler up closer to centerline and easing the mainsheet a bit. When you look up the top batten should be parallel with the boom or pointed to leeward. Most of the time you had it hooked to windward which is VERY slow. In breeze if you start to heel too much then you start to ease the traveler down and/or add boom vang and ease the sheet more. Also, LOTS more jib halyard tension. Good luck and have fun.
Thanks for the information on the Bad Elf.
I really enjoy your videos guys. Ipad is an awesome bit of kit for navigation. On to the next video.
I miss sailing!!!!!You guys are awesome!
Good job guys. Love the line holder on the dock.
oil your teak deck its healthy for it and can make it last forever, and make sure you change the calking when it showes seperation, happy sailing kids
iPad over "purpose built marine GPS" any day, sailing is like flying anytime something is marine grade or aviation grade the price goes up exponentially. Love your channel, love your enthusiasm, and love your followers! A newbie sailor myself I'm getting great tips from the other comments!
Great video guys! But you need a snubber! Take pressure of your windless, a windless brake is unreliable for sleeping at anchor. Look it up! Enjoy!
I use a chain hook on a short rope with a loop that I can throw on a bow cleat for holding the chain when I am setting so that I don't rely on the windlass. After I am set I then use a bridle that catches the chain near the water surface and is attached to both bow cleats. I believe it lowers the effective pivot point and provides a better ride at anchor in chop. I use the chain hook as a backup in case the chain ever pops out of the bridle which is has only ever done once.
And also I use a Samsung Tab 4 that I picked up for $50 as my chart plotter and it works fine (built in GPS). Of course I have charts and know how to use them as backup.
ABSOLUTELY! The windlass brake is not your snubber. I would NEVER even back down to set the anchor without a 3-strand nylon snubber with a chain hook. Your deck is not meant to take those kinds of sustained loads.
Nice Job, gibroni's !! Totally enjoyed your first "going out" adventure. You can do it. I believe in you. Capt'n Richard, M.100T 😊👍👌⛵️⚓️⛵️⚓️🍺🍻
Great videos so far! I never comment on youtube but a little advice. NEVER advertise where you hide your startup engine key especially if it's in the engine compartment area under the stairs. I read an article about boat thieves and this is the first place most boat thieves look. I used to hide my engine key near the saltwater intake valve, but no more! I'm only on video 12 and excited to see the rest. Best of luck with your sailing.
Stoked you two went out of the comfort zone of the slip. Makes me feel like i could sail! The six knots looks rippin'.
Tahoe Roger plenty more coming!! Appreciate the support 🙂
Good luck on the open water. Irma is coming in strong!
Great video guys!! We really are enjoying them. We used an iPad for a while but eventually had to upgrade to add radar.
iPad every time. Waterproof case and a proper mount though. Plus USB charge. Then chart plotter for backup and of course paper charts. Great sail and great video
COOL, i live in Tampa and it's nice to see your point of view. i want to see the deck to be stained in the future it will make your boat look AMAZING!
Awesome! Thanks for watching. We'll have the deck torn up in the coming months and will be replacing it with synthetic teak :)
Abandon Comfort cool. I'm saving for a 30ft Sea Ray or Bayliner which do you recommend? be safe I watched few videos boaters getting robbed at night.
A simple pad sander is a worth while investment for maintenance reasons. works faster then a block of wood with sand paper wrapped around it.
Great vidéo ! Good job !
Paul's advice is correct...(in a shallow anchorage)...I'm in 50 feet of water (High tide) . For good weather, 3 to 4 to one is plenty which puts 100 to 150 feet of 5/16th on the bottom. If a storm is coming in a deep anchorage all 250 feet for sure.
I noticed that your docklines are one on top of each other, if you dipped the eyes you can take of either line without disturbing the other
Thats the narrative!
Sweet, you guys are get'in done. Amazing how the ipad works great for a fraction of the cost.
You two did great, one thing I did when I had my Catalina 27, was put the 5000 BTU air conditioner in the companion way and run it off the honda generator, it would run about 12 hours on tank, now that we have a catamaran, all that has changed.
Just started watching your channel. That cat that left Sunday morning from manatee river was us! Enjoy your adventure!
Put an anchor rode on your stern anchor. If you need it suddenly, that is no time to look for the rode and a shackle. Your stern anchor is a safety device and it has to be instantly deployable. A reel that holds the stern anchor rode guarantees that it will unspool when needed. To save space and volume, flat tape anchor rode is available on a reel.