John Vervaeke ~ Active Inference Insights 003 ~ Relevance Realisation, Predictive Processing, Flow

The Active Inference Institute is absolutely thrilled to bring you this third episode of Active Inference Insights with our host, Darius Parvizi-Wayne, and his esteemed guest, John Vervaeke. John is a cognitive scientist at the University of Toronto and is a leading intellectual in the fields of intelligence, rationality and meaning in life. He is also the host of the extremely popular lecture series, Awakening From The Meaning Crisis, as well as After Socrates. In this episode, John and Darius work through the convergence points of relevance realisation and predictive processing, before moving onto the function of consciousness, flow states, the implications of radical enactivism, and much, much more.
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Darius Parvizi-Wayne
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[@KalebPeters99]

Please please put John and Karl in conversation, there would be fireworks 🎇🤩

[@InterfaceGuhy]

I for One can not wait 🤤

[@margrietoregan828]

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their critiques of active inference um and and predictive processing and I I
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will stick with active inference actually for now and I will explain why later um it's not that interesting so
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this this was people like Tony KERO or Ed bags um who who are radical in
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activists and what they're critiquing in a sense is an internalist picture of yes
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Act of inference so this is some again I'm not putting words into people's mouths but if you read um yob how's um
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2016 paper about self- evidencing some of the language May to
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some people imply that there is a homunculus that has a representation or picture of the world and this to the
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ears of a inactivist is deeply
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worrying I would love to as a four cognitive scientist um with obviously
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vested interest in predicted processing as well I'd love to just hear your take on that debate a1:03:34
non-representational so what I would say is I I don't know at some level there's
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something like representations and but if if I agree with many arguments that representations
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are more than co-variation but there's this kind of carness and aspect caring
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and aspectual isation through them then they depend on relevance realization which grounds in autopolis and is deeply
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intertwined with predictive processing that would be my argu that would be my
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response Splendid and I guess I guess what intuitively supports a more
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representation this picture is consciousness u

[@waynelewis425]

Yes 1:01 that’s precisely my issue with active inference generally

[@waynelewis425]

Indeed, always a marvelous learning experience…thx again John for doing what you do.

[@jgarciajr82]

We can change evolution or at least tweak it and I think that's what we're doing with meaning of life, which to me looks like being grateful to be alive. We've tweaked evolution by wearing glasses why not by realizing our true life has truth, meaning and a purpose.❤🙏❤️

[@aaronmichaelseckman]

the three aspects of the "minimal phenomenal self" sound to me like three aspects arising with avydia in Buddhism: bhava, upadana, & ditthi, i.e. being, assumption (of me/mine/I am), and (wrong) view.

[@u2b83]

Amazing and novel [to me] insight after insight!

[@mubanganyambe517]

Amaizing unfolding; might i suggest looking into how indigenous intelligence's forms of hyberobjectivty within the way it tends to anthromorize its essence within the language as a buffer between the emerging possibity space of the inferable logos.
The language "Nyanja" in Zambia is what I'm referring to.

[@waynelewis425]

Great argument John !

[@waynelewis425]

I wonder John if you have looked at Richard Watsons recent work

[@JohnnyBee-mv8kq]

Looks good

[@waynelewis425]

Rosen would deeply agree about instantiating a model rather than having one!

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Great conversation! Thank you for sharingz

[@notmyrealpseudonym6702]

I really appreciate John's spirit of generosity and generosity of spirit.

[@colorfulbookmark]

I have opinions about Dr.Vervaeke's briliant project, but it is verbose mode of many replies, let me post it to my English blog^^

[@colorfulbookmark]

This is what I learn from people at UT and it is not duty to see my opinion which I invoke myself^^;;

[@waynelewis425]

Thank you for a fascinating interview John

[@princee9385]

❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@waynelewis425]

Whitehead😊

[@Anin-oe4jh]

Vervaeke the thief!
There’s something so dirty and stupid that attracts the irrational apes to each other!
Planet of the irrational thief apes is planet of endless wonders!

[@christopherhamilton3621]

You keep saying this but I’ve never heard you explain it. What has he ‘stolen’?