My wife and I used to stay overnight on our cabin cruiser inside Ponce inlet. One morning I noticed a large log had come in with the tide and was resting on the sandbar (disappearing island). I went over and checked it out. It was about chest high and fifteen feet long. The next morning it was gone. Back out in the ocean. There's all kinds of stuff submerged but still buoyant enough to take out a fiberglass or wooden boat whole. Especially if you going fast.
After watching these vids recently it doesnt surprise me at all... Nobody wears em.. rarely see kids wearing em let alone teens or those who should know better
If there isn't water in the boat, it's not sinking. But, they should have secured lines to all the cleats and tied to things like the coolers, anchor, EPIRB or GPS, safety bag w/flares, signaling devices, etc.. when the boat is floating upside down, having those lines to hang onto is going to save lives.
Cigarette is not suppose to delaminate under any condition. Hit something you at worst get a crack, not a peel back delaminate which is what it looks like. The delamination is caused by not having perfect conditions in the vacuum forming of the layers in making the hull, which is made lighter and thinner than ever before, until real world conditions tell you you went too far in your weight and thickness reduction goals.
I don't believe they are vacuum formed. They were traditional hand laid construction last I heard. I'd suspect the synthetic foam core tore apart after hitting something.
@@winningwithoutracing7811 They used to be hand-laid but the new owners vowed to double/triple output and introduce new technological advancements in production, which to me can only be accomplished through automation. Who knows.
I was aboard a brand new one. 63 or 65, whatever. They all look the same. I called out a potentially lethal problem in it. Was told, ah, the other 6 or 7 we built. I refused working on it. Packed tools and happily hiked off
Actually this could be caused by water getting in behind a bilge port or ac port or any other hole in the boat and lets not rule out the sourcing of materials to save a few bucks gets you inferior fiberglass, gel coats and or adhesives
@@kbrown1350 Probably chewing gum and spit, you can't beat hand lam. Vacuum bagging can have limitations due to thermal changes that vary thru the hour and day to day.
where is the video of it sunk at the dock? or did they wisely beach it to save the $200k+ in engines from getting a saltwater bath? Looks like they would not have time to trailer it unless it was waiting at the boat ramp right when they got back, or the marina was alerted & had the lift ready. Seems like they HAD to hit something. Follow up will be interesting. C'mon Miami boat scene, someone has dock photos/video
I think the fiberglass delaminated but the foam core structure probably stayed intact and I bet that the boat was not taking on water or sinking in a significant way. We will see what else we find out
This company changed ownership from Skip Braver to John Ruiz and that was the beginning for bad quality production. Skip was an owner who was there at 7:00am and leave at 7:00pm everyday of the week meaning he was into quality control. He brought the company in 2001 I believe and over 20 years of ownership he took the company into another league. This company really had two great owner the founder Donal Aronow and Skip Braver.
Constantly amazed and horrified by Captains that would risk lives in that weather pattern. Wind and waves are nothing to bet against. And yes am a 30yr boat owner. Mamma nature always wins.
North of Toronto is Lake Simcoe. About 12 by 15 miles in size. During a small craft warning, the ENTIRE lake looks like this. Its usually free of boats at this point. The windsurfing is AMAZING in 25 knots. In 35 knots waves are 8' with a very short period. Waves resemble boxcars going sideways. Total blast, jump city.
That's what I'm thinking certainly caused by debris of some description!!...not sure if the haul was penetrated...looks more like outer skin has ripped away due to the speed it probably hit at??
This video is incredibly enlightening! I've learned so much about boat maintenance and safety precautions. Are there more tips like these for first-time boat owners?
Orca attack! On a serious note; A man I worked with and one other just died in Lake Superior. Some of this is speculation and some of it is fact: Don't ever anchor stern to the wind. Lake Superior waves are always steep and she can get gnarly in a second. Make sure you have your boat in great working order; a little fault, say on a bilge pump, is not acceptable. Older boats may have waterlogged floatation. The boat took on a few waves and in 20 minutes five souls were in the water. Three in life preservers survived, barely. Hypothermic and all required extended hospital care. The boat and 2 bodies were found days later in 220 feet of water.
Also any boat that gets on water big enough to get nasty should have a "sea anchor". Know how to deploy it to keep the bow pointed into the waves in case of power loss or just to ride out some rough conditions. I would like to think that any who owns and operates a boat would know enough not to anchor a boat from the stern in any kind of high wind or rough sea or current conditions.
I find it hard to believe that high end boats like the Lazzara don't have some way of securing cushions so that they don't fly away. I mean, something as simple as button snaps would remedy this issue.
I feel you 100. Those boats are gorgeous but watching a 67 - 85 ft boat STRUGGLE going through this inlet is highly concerning about the seaworthiness of their boats. Granted, cap needs some serious lessons and hopefully is not the actual hired captain of this vessel. Also, those cushions def have button snaps lol. It’s not enough at haulover inlet. But I couldn’t agree more that it’s unacceptable for a boat of that caliber
Like many things, I don't think Cigarette builds boats like they used to. They were sold a few years back and new ownership's plans were to double or triple production within a year or two. Given that these boats are hand built that is a lot of qualified employees to add to reach that goal.
It’s got to say something about the construction of that boat , a gaping hole in the bottom of the boat about30 to 40 square feet and still afloat and traversing the inlet under is own power. Definitely sitting low but one would think it should be on the bottom. Very lucky pair of boaters there, I’d need a new pair of shorts if it was me
Great Comments, on that Beautiful Cigarette, Quad 400's, Damn, and all Custom and Matching. Damn, that is a huge piece of the Bottom just Ripped open. I would love to hear the Full Story, From the Captain. I'm sure that, Cigarette will be doing a, Full Investigation, in to the How's and the Why's. Glad no one was Injured, maybe, Haulover Inlet Boats, could give us the 411 on the outcome of this Incident. God Bless All, Eyes Open No Fear..
Yeah, I'm on the fence. Either really lucky not to get swamped from behind, or very skilled. I didn't see even one wave go over the bow. I am leaning towards skilled though.
their is only 1 pump running at a slow speed .. I kinda said the same thing... looks like its pissing .. both sides should be pumping with double pumps for that kinda money
To peel back the gelcoat like that? I can't even imagine what's going on, because there should be no way that isn't bonded. A crack, sure, a tear, okay, but pulling off a sheet like that? PS: it's repairable, but it's gonna have to go back to Cigarette to get the work done.
I've seen a LOT of these videos and it did NOT take long to come up with this assessment. Let's say I have enough $$$ to own and operate THAT kind of boat. This means I have enough $$$ to trailer that boat or have a slip for that boat ANY PLACE I want. That place, for me, is someplace that does NOT involve crossing though Haulover Inlet.
Boating industry is in good hands, lots of experts on design and construction in this thread. Silly me thinking that boat hit something that was harder than water.
@@doriangray2020 What are you basing that claim on? You have no knowledge of that poster's abilities. But anyone even basic knowledge can tell for sure that woman is totally clueless. Shae's handling nothing - she's being handled.
I have a 31 cigarette bullet built in 1989. I've been through 3 metre chop for 2 hours racing. The boat has been through hell. 35 years later still going strong. They have hit something by the look at hull nearer bow. It also looks like a lightweight lay up which won't stand up if you hit something. Nice boat.
With any boat you need to be aware of what’s going on around you, there’s always something to look out for. Ideally have a second person on lookout so they can alert the captain. It’s a good idea to talk through any plans with your lookout or observer before you set off, that way they can understand what you’re intending to do. A headset might be helpful too as it gets noisy out at sea and for a few hundred dollars can be a great investment. It’s also a good idea to secure things like cushions and loose furniture.
Fibreglass/Kevlar/whatever should not do that, that hull had a problem right out of the factory and I say that as someone who has worked in the lamination industry.
@25 years ago because I was so excited to take my boats maiden voyage after a decade long restoration. Anyway the boat and myself left for a quick shakedown cruise to the Vineyard. While enjoying myself up on the fly bridge the boat started to list to port. By the time I got down and went below, the salon and lower suites were under water. There was a telephone pole inside my boat. Hit below the waterline by a soggy but still floating @4’ under the boat. It went all the way back to the engines and stopped. It was a 40’ Egg Harbor made of all wood. The hull had been restored, the interior mahogany was beautiful. Worst of it all, my Insurance was covering me at the dock but until they did a complete survey the insurance was not covering my trip. I lost it all in less than and hour. The Coast Guard saved me thankfully. Oh well!!😧 ✌️😎🇺🇸
I would guess they hit a "dead head" which is a log or tree that is floating just below the surface of the water and can cause a lot of damage it hit at speed !!
It amazes me, time and again, how people can be in very precarious situations, and yet no life jackets in sight. First boat was pretty close to going down, and that last boat could have gotten swamped, but nothing.
Million dollar boat, and a puny bilge pump. Looks like they went down to West Marine and bought one off of the shelf. Granted no bilge pump would keep up with that hole, but that installation isn't even trying.
Delamination. No one would be in danger, if they get back to the dock asap. It is an issue with the builder not laying up the fiberglass properly. Bertram had this same issue when an Italian company took them over. I'm surprised Cigarette had this issue, they are a good quality boat, or they once were.
At first I was thinking the same thing, then I realized that was one of the only boats that never took a wave over the bow. It was either pure skill, or pure luck.
That derm boat had excellent captain skills for those waves. Riding each wave perfectly to not get a drop in that tiny-ish boat compared to the much larger ones. An unskilled person would have been screwed and in big trouble there.
Kinda the reason I restored my 1975 searay..rather than buying a newer boat..I made that decision after a marina gave me several boats to get rid of or part out for salvage..a Sawzall reveals quickly how boats are built..😢
Daddy is going to be furious that junior took the boat out and destroyed it. I hope junior called mommy and told her about it. There goes his trustfund.
If you thought a million dollar car depreciates fast, wait till you get a million dollar boat!
...whereas a used aircraft at $1M will go up in volume... although maintenance costs will eat you a new one in that time
I heard the boat ran into Chuck Norris while swimming, Chuck didn't even know he got hit
BOAT: Bout Another Thiusand
@@lakorai2
It's "Bust Out Another Thousand", ffs.
Milion dollar cars depreciates fast? Almost every car with a milion dollar sticker has gone up - by alot
My wife and I used to stay overnight on our cabin cruiser inside Ponce inlet. One morning I noticed a large log had come in with the tide and was resting on the sandbar (disappearing island). I went over and checked it out. It was about chest high and fifteen feet long. The next morning it was gone. Back out in the ocean. There's all kinds of stuff submerged but still buoyant enough to take out a fiberglass or wooden boat whole. Especially if you going fast.
Bottom practically peeling off the boat, and not a life vest in sight, lol.
A little Flex Seal will fix that right up. Cap can name his warranty replacement boat 'Delam II'.
Phil swift new Comercial
When I was very young, I learned that cigarettes and water don’t get along very well together.
indeed, you do not want to get your butts wet.
You would think with that much damage to the Cigarette the crew would have put on their life jackets in case it became a submarine.
Nobody ever seems to...
After watching these vids recently it doesnt surprise me at all...
Nobody wears em.. rarely see kids wearing em let alone teens or those who should know better
If there isn't water in the boat, it's not sinking. But, they should have secured lines to all the cleats and tied to things like the coolers, anchor, EPIRB or GPS, safety bag w/flares, signaling devices, etc.. when the boat is floating upside down, having those lines to hang onto is going to save lives.
I think I would have a talk with the builder of the Cigarette.
The 23 year old CEO
Could be damage from hitting something. Then moving through the water peeled the hull back.
And give them a reward? How is that boat not underwater already.
It most likely collided with stupidity.
@@mdb5173 Yeah, when he bought the cigarette, everybody knows cigarettes cause cancer.
What an expensive piece of crap.
Hey... but it's fast when it isn't sinking.
Cigarette is not suppose to delaminate under any condition. Hit something you at worst get a crack, not a peel back delaminate which is what it looks like. The delamination is caused by not having perfect conditions in the vacuum forming of the layers in making the hull, which is made lighter and thinner than ever before, until real world conditions tell you you went too far in your weight and thickness reduction goals.
I don't believe they are vacuum formed. They were traditional hand laid construction last I heard. I'd suspect the synthetic foam core tore apart after hitting something.
@@winningwithoutracing7811 They used to be hand-laid but the new owners vowed to double/triple output and introduce new technological advancements in production, which to me can only be accomplished through automation. Who knows.
I was aboard a brand new one. 63 or 65, whatever. They all look the same. I called out a potentially lethal problem in it. Was told, ah, the other 6 or 7 we built. I refused working on it. Packed tools and happily hiked off
Actually this could be caused by water getting in behind a bilge port or ac port or any other hole in the boat and lets not rule out the sourcing of materials to save a few bucks gets you inferior fiberglass, gel coats and or adhesives
@@kbrown1350 Probably chewing gum and spit, you can't beat hand lam. Vacuum bagging can have limitations due to thermal changes that vary thru the hour and day to day.
That is a manufacturing defect. Cigarette owes that guy a new boat.
guy needs a life jacket
Most likely not all of the air was rolled out when laying the glass creating voids which are major weak spots. Usually happens on the bottom.
where is the video of it sunk at the dock? or did they wisely beach it to save the $200k+ in engines from getting a saltwater bath?
Looks like they would not have time to trailer it unless it was waiting at the boat ramp right when they got back, or the marina was alerted & had the lift ready.
Seems like they HAD to hit something. Follow up will be interesting. C'mon Miami boat scene, someone has dock photos/video
I think the fiberglass delaminated but the foam core structure probably stayed intact and I bet that the boat was not taking on water or sinking in a significant way. We will see what else we find out
This company changed ownership from Skip Braver to John Ruiz and that was the beginning for bad quality production. Skip was an owner who was there at 7:00am and leave at 7:00pm everyday of the week meaning he was into quality control. He brought the company in 2001 I believe and over 20 years of ownership he took the company into another league. This company really had two great owner the founder Donal Aronow and Skip Braver.
That Intrepid was so chill, just rocking and rolling, riding the swells... almost no water over the bow. The king of Haulover chill.
They were going way too slow at times.
Did someone finally run over a jetskier?
🤫
Looks like Cigarette is taking lessons from Boing.
Haha boing!!!!😂😂😂😂
Look at this American patriot, getting his opinions from CNN. Beautiful.
@@sharkusvelarde well, i have said before that they needed to take the "e" out since now they seem to be making things that want to bounce.
@@EchelonBlue No one cares what you said before.
Constantly amazed and horrified by Captains that would risk lives in that weather pattern. Wind and waves are nothing to bet against. And yes am a 30yr boat owner. Mamma nature always wins.
Finally a captain who knows what he's doing..Derm environment boat
She was smooth.
Paid by the hour. Taxpayer dime.
You get on a wave and ride it in. They were rolling all over.
North of Toronto is Lake Simcoe.
About 12 by 15 miles in size.
During a small craft warning, the ENTIRE lake looks like this.
Its usually free of boats at this point.
The windsurfing is AMAZING in 25 knots.
In 35 knots waves are 8' with a very short period. Waves resemble boxcars going sideways.
Total blast, jump city.
Absolutely no comparison.
@@UguysRnuts Come on up and try it some time then Captain.
That sounds wild!!! Canada is the underrated jewel of the American continents
Impact with something solid. sunken container or reef?
Or a log .....
Or Jimmy Hoffa ☠💀
That's what I'm thinking certainly caused by debris of some description!!...not sure if the haul was penetrated...looks more like outer skin has ripped away due to the speed it probably hit at??
GOOD ONE.... I'm a geezer too and I still throw Hoffa jokes around!@@rawcado
@@rawcado Yup, those cement boots.
This video is incredibly enlightening! I've learned so much about boat maintenance and safety precautions. Are there more tips like these for first-time boat owners?
Not really any more tips or advice for you. I’d estimate you’re a qualified captain after watching a video and reading a few comments. Good work!
I have repaired fiberglass boats for many years. Big and small repairs. I have never seen anything like that.
I agree looks like a botched amateur repair gone bad .
That Derm captain is a real pro! Well done.
From an Ex-USCG Small Boat Coxswain, He done did it right! Well Done……
@@lindongareis8757She*
Cigarettes are so cheaply made, a square grouper took it out.
These manufacturers change ownership a few times in many cases over the years build quality changes , once they were good
If they're that bad it could even have been a round grouper. You know, one with no sharp edges. 😅😂
Maybe they found the new weed line…
Funny reading the post of those to poor to ken the things they criticize. Jealousy is an ugly trait.
Orca attack!
On a serious note; A man I worked with and one other just died in Lake Superior. Some of this is speculation and some of it is fact: Don't ever anchor stern to the wind. Lake Superior waves are always steep and she can get gnarly in a second. Make sure you have your boat in great working order; a little fault, say on a bilge pump, is not acceptable. Older boats may have waterlogged floatation.
The boat took on a few waves and in 20 minutes five souls were in the water. Three in life preservers survived, barely.
Hypothermic and all required extended hospital care. The boat and 2 bodies were found days later in 220 feet of water.
Also any boat that gets on water big enough to get nasty should have a "sea anchor". Know how to deploy it to keep the bow pointed into the waves in case of power loss or just to ride out some rough conditions. I would like to think that any who owns and operates a boat would know enough not to anchor a boat from the stern in any kind of high wind or rough sea or current conditions.
2 life jackets short of Legal minimum
@@cw93711 there were ample life preservers on board.
I find it hard to believe that high end boats like the Lazzara don't have some way of securing cushions so that they don't fly away. I mean, something as simple as button snaps would remedy this issue.
I feel you 100. Those boats are gorgeous but watching a 67 - 85 ft boat STRUGGLE going through this inlet is highly concerning about the seaworthiness of their boats. Granted, cap needs some serious lessons and hopefully is not the actual hired captain of this vessel. Also, those cushions def have button snaps lol. It’s not enough at haulover inlet. But I couldn’t agree more that it’s unacceptable for a boat of that caliber
Over catalyzed resin. Or expired product. Could be few other explanations..
That is just a classic case of De-lamination after to many hard hits it happens especially if the process of layup is not perfectly done.
That's got to be a defect. Hard hits or not, a properly built boat won't delaminate like that.
Like many things, I don't think Cigarette builds boats like they used to. They were sold a few years back and new ownership's plans were to double or triple production within a year or two. Given that these boats are hand built that is a lot of qualified employees to add to reach that goal.
It’s got to say something about the construction of that boat , a gaping hole in the bottom of the boat about30 to 40 square feet and still afloat and traversing the inlet under is own power. Definitely sitting low but one would think it should be on the bottom. Very lucky pair of boaters there, I’d need a new pair of shorts if it was me
That’s usually a sign of trouble, increasing production
Intrepid Derm Cap, you are awesome!
Is it ever calm there ? I dont understand going out when its all whitecaps ...
Sometimes, relatively speaking. Depends on the tide and weather.
I'm surprised more boats don't Crack hulls and break stringers? Why beat the 💩 out of your boat??
Great Comments, on that Beautiful Cigarette, Quad 400's, Damn, and all Custom and Matching. Damn, that is a huge piece of the Bottom just Ripped open. I would love to hear the Full Story, From the Captain. I'm sure that, Cigarette will be doing a, Full Investigation, in to the How's and the Why's. Glad no one was Injured, maybe, Haulover Inlet Boats, could give us the 411 on the outcome of this Incident. God Bless All, Eyes Open No Fear..
ERM skipper was calculated and smooth? Or not good?
Hey was that a huge container ship in the background?
Yeah, I'm on the fence. Either really lucky not to get swamped from behind, or very skilled. I didn't see even one wave go over the bow. I am leaning towards skilled though.
Horrendous. You never want to be surfing like at 7:43 with the transom higher than the bow - you sit on the back of a swell and follow it in.
Hard to tell what happened.
Witness the perfection of the Sailfish VDS hull being worked by someone who knows that they are doing. 5:04
Bow cushions flying for wind is a great classic of all times
Just curious, are boats Not fitted with bilge pumps now?
their is only 1 pump running at a slow speed .. I kinda said the same thing... looks like its pissing .. both sides should be pumping with double pumps for that kinda money
would like to know what actually caused the initial damage
Glad the people on that fancy red boat didn’t ‘uncool’ themselves and put on life jackets.
Image is everything.
To peel back the gelcoat like that? I can't even imagine what's going on, because there should be no way that isn't bonded. A crack, sure, a tear, okay, but pulling off a sheet like that? PS: it's repairable, but it's gonna have to go back to Cigarette to get the work done.
I've seen a LOT of these videos and it did NOT take long to come up with this assessment. Let's say I have enough $$$ to own and operate THAT kind of boat. This means I have enough $$$ to trailer that boat or have a slip for that boat ANY PLACE I want. That place, for me, is someplace that does NOT involve crossing though Haulover Inlet.
all that horsepower saved them
Boating industry is in good hands, lots of experts on design and construction in this thread. Silly me thinking that boat hit something that was harder than water.
The captain of the ERM boat has embarrassed all Intrepid owners
Female captain, what do you expect? 😁
that person has no business at the helm of any boat.
It was a woman driver what do you expect
@@jedwards1975she’s handling it a lot better than you ever could!
@@doriangray2020 What are you basing that claim on? You have no knowledge of that poster's abilities. But anyone even basic knowledge can tell for sure that woman is totally clueless. Shae's handling nothing - she's being handled.
That sucks, but man that color is gorgeous!
That cigarette is smoked.
Puff, puff, pass on that one..😖
I’ve NEVER seen a Cigarette delaminated like this. What’s happening? 😳 🤔
Cheap/poor build quality.
Non-menthol
It's like the boat had a bad breakup with fiberglass! What could cause such extreme delamination?
Boating through Haulover looks like an absolutely miserable experience.
So, add the cost of repairing 4x450hp outboards due to saltwater immersion?
Could that be a large graphic peeling off?
Looks like they hit something pretty solid, right on the spine of to hull.
I have a 31 cigarette bullet built in 1989. I've been through 3 metre chop for 2 hours racing. The boat has been through hell. 35 years later still going strong. They have hit something by the look at hull nearer bow. It also looks like a lightweight lay up which won't stand up if you hit something. Nice boat.
Wow that's like time seen a racing Hull blow open n driver n co-pilot got SUCKED OUT THREW BOTTOM OF BOAT
What an odd way to put out your cigarette
Looks like a disbond to me. If it is a prepreg layup it can happen if layup was done incorrectly.
I need to know the colour code to the sailfish boat that was awesome my boat so needs it
looks like a venere pealing?... ❤... sad to see failure but structure is intact?..
dunno
Considering the rift I would asume it would sink really fast?
Might be double hull or something...
With any boat you need to be aware of what’s going on around you, there’s always something to look out for. Ideally have a second person on lookout so they can alert the captain. It’s a good idea to talk through any plans with your lookout or observer before you set off, that way they can understand what you’re intending to do. A headset might be helpful too as it gets noisy out at sea and for a few hundred dollars can be a great investment. It’s also a good idea to secure things like cushions and loose furniture.
Artificial reef off shore?
This must be the Cigarette x Cyber Truck Collaboration.
Fibreglass/Kevlar/whatever should not do that, that hull had a problem right out of the factory and I say that as someone who has worked in the lamination industry.
One million for fiberglass bathtub?! I'm assuming the engines must be $950K of that.
The last one was trying to sink itself 😂
@25 years ago because I was so excited to take my boats maiden voyage after a decade long restoration. Anyway the boat and myself left for a quick shakedown cruise to the Vineyard. While enjoying myself up on the fly bridge the boat started to list to port. By the time I got down and went below, the salon and lower suites were under water. There was a telephone pole inside my boat. Hit below the waterline by a soggy but still floating @4’ under the boat. It went all the way back to the engines and stopped. It was a 40’ Egg Harbor made of all wood. The hull had been restored, the interior mahogany was beautiful. Worst of it all, my Insurance was covering me at the dock but until they did a complete survey the insurance was not covering my trip. I lost it all in less than and hour.
The Coast Guard saved me thankfully.
Oh well!!😧
✌️😎🇺🇸
Sorry to hear that. Very unlucky.
I would guess they hit a "dead head" which is a log or tree that is floating just below the surface of the water and can cause a lot of damage it hit at speed !!
Don't even think of going anywhere near F1. It's only a million dollars.
An inboard or io would have surely sank, another benefit of ob is it won’t stop when bilges are flooded
What if they were wearing inflatables under jackets?
“Vacuum bagged sandwich construction” My bagged sandwiches sometimes get wet and fall apart too.
It amazes me, time and again, how people can be in very precarious situations, and yet no life jackets in sight. First boat was pretty close to going down, and that last boat could have gotten swamped, but nothing.
how did this happen?
pretty red boat is sinking! life jacket? he is just not worth much. is he the boss's son?
Ego over lifejackets. 🤦
That person at 6:03 does NOT know how to ride those waves.
Don’t let the waves hit you from behind and turn your boat like that!
Hi ! The real cause is from a loose nut behind the wheel ! 😂🤣
Kraken?
Sraken😂
That delimitation is criminal but it was still floating 😮
Bad or poorly mixed batch of resin
Million dollar boat, and a puny bilge pump. Looks like they went down to West Marine and bought one off of the shelf. Granted no bilge pump would keep up with that hole, but that installation isn't even trying.
i said the same thing looks like it is pissing slow.. their should be double pumps both sides for that kind of money
@@BUFFDgaminglike you would know or even comprehend what “should be” for something so far out of your reach financially.
My dad, an old Navy man, always said a boat is just a hole in the water.
Seems like it is just fine minus a little de-lamination.
I thought that last woman was going to swamp that boat.
Wonder what the actual cause ended up being
8.25~8.55 Perfect control
Agee. Many commented negatively which is testament to lack of knowledge for handling a boat at an inlet with outflow converging against swells.
looks like a bad glass layup
Delamination. No one would be in danger, if they get back to the dock asap.
It is an issue with the builder not laying up the fiberglass properly.
Bertram had this same issue when an Italian company took them over.
I'm surprised Cigarette had this issue, they are a good quality boat, or they once were.
That woman capt. driving the ERM boat is lucky she didn’t get swamped from behind, not enough power to stay between the waves
I thought the same this was. Terrible 😢
YEAH she did not know what she was doing.
At first I was thinking the same thing, then I realized that was one of the only boats that never took a wave over the bow. It was either pure skill, or pure luck.
That derm boat had excellent captain skills for those waves. Riding each wave perfectly to not get a drop in that tiny-ish boat compared to the much larger ones. An unskilled person would have been screwed and in big trouble there.
She was giving it the gas when needed ,she was the best looking captain I've seen in awhile in that inlet
ERM boat lose their props?
No, it was a woman at the helm.
Haulover is the scariest piece of water I have ever personally navigated, and I won't ever do it again!
Looks like the wrapping came off
The bilge pump was running, so must have been taking on water
Waited too long between laminations and didn't rough the surface before next lamination.
If i had to deal with that inlet everytime i wanted to go boating, i would give up boating.
Suddenly everyone is an expert on Cigarette lack of quality and "delamination". That's not even a word.
delamination: the separation into constituent layers.
It's a word found in every dictionary.
The water looks like the western basin of lake Erie most days.
Kinda the reason I restored my 1975 searay..rather than buying a newer boat..I made that decision after a marina gave me several boats to get rid of or part out for salvage..a Sawzall reveals quickly how boats are built..😢
Well, I guess they just don’t make $1 million boats the way they used to.
How come it's not sinking?
Multiple layers.
The anchor …the anchor hit it on the retrieval
Or wasn’t retrieved?
Looks like the outer skin of the cored hull came off , or part of a built in tank or the water ingress would be a lot worst.
He should seriously switch to cigars. Much tougher
Daddy is going to be furious that junior took the boat out and destroyed it. I hope junior called mommy and told her about it. There goes his trustfund.