I own one of each. They are both GREAT cars in their own right. The MX-5 is a blast on the curves; while the Si is a much more comfortable but reasonably quick car. Neither are fast mind you, but both are fun to drive!
I have the same goals. I decided on the ordinary Civic coupe since it still has the old VTEC crossover in it. Hoping to get an ND Miata sometime next year. Happy driving!
@@javianbrown8627 unfortunately I have not. It's a year or more wait according to the dealer I was speaking to. That was about a year ago now though. I ended up getting a used NA instead. Couldn't be happier. All the used ND's in my area at the time were ND1's.
@@oemj7147 then everybody's probably not in their right mind because i've only known two people irl who prefer the mx-5 over anything else and you can see in their faces that they made a mistake in their purchase and are severely coping
As an ex 2018 MX5 club owner i sorely miss this car.Sam the visceral sound and feel in this car is like no other,you hear smell feel everything while your driving the Miata.Is not a fast car but quick and the handling is amazing.Now the way I had it with e85 tune is a little rocket and suggest to get a tune by Fab9 guys they are amazing and the support to the Miata community.Again thank you Sam and really enjoyed this video and hate you for it cause know I'm thinking into buying another one.Love you guys and God Bless everyone.
Sold a mint 2018 ND1 last year. If you ever get a chance to drive a Miata on a long winding road, especially the ND1 or ND2, then you will understand why “Mazda is always the answer”. Speed has nothing to do with it. It’s pure driving bliss.
@@SamCarLegion If possible, could you consider testing the 2021 Mini Cooper JCW GP? It’s around $45k in many US dealerships and it’s supposedly a rocket nobody is buying. Thanks and great channel!
I love it. I like this saying better, that racing was never about going fast but about staying fast. Add some twists and the Miata is going to be a bullet around the curves.
The fact that it kept up for as long as it did is impressive considering it has less horsepower and is NA…in the street by the time the SI starts gapping the Miata you’re at illegal going to jail speeds and that’s why you get a Miata
Great enthusiasm on the part of the host, making for a funny, entertaining video. I personally prefer the earlier versions of both the Civic Si and the Mazda MX-5. There were fewer safety regulations for designers to contend with a couple of decades ago, so both of these cars looked better to my eye during that point time (give or take a number of years). The older cars also appeal more to me as I'm exactly not a fan of things like driving modes, traction control or infotainment screens. The cool thing for people that share my sentiments is that both Mazda and Honda have been building great vehicles for a long time now. If you can manage to find a clean, well-maintained example of either car from twenty years ago with reasonable mileage (it doesn't have to be low-mileage), they're still great cars today. (Make mine a manual transmission please.)
@@nighthawk0077 ummm no, the Honda Civic si factory VSA pulls back the throttle really bad as soon as it detects an instance of wheel slip especially from a dig. You have to do what we call a “pedal dance” to fully deactivate it.
I cross shopped these two cars and ended up with a civic si coupe. I've had a few miatas and they are phenomenal cars but the civic is more practical obviously. 4 years from now when my son is in college I'm going to go back to the miata roots and build an exocet. You can't lose either way between these two cars for the price
What's the altitude? The MX-5 should have a major advantage w/ power to weight and rwd. Stock vs stock the ND2 MX-5 should get to 60 mph nearly a second quicker than the Si. This looks closer to what the 155 hp ND1 should be lol
Third gear in the 10th Gen Civic SI REALLY pulls. I just traded my SI for a Forte GT DCT, because traffic and shifting no good together. Can certainly feel boost more in the SI than the Forte GT, but the GT is definitely a fun car to drive. Neither are as fun as the manual GTI, though. Loved that car for the brief time I owned it. I have yet to drive one of these Miatas. Some day...
@@dnegel9546 fwd collision avoidance-pedestrian, power sunroof with sunshade, smart cruise control (scc), harmon kardon sound system (320 watt w subwoofer), wireless phone charger, synthetic leather seat trim w power adjust driver heated and cooled front seats, parking distance warning-reverse (PDW-R), overhead LED front and rear reading lights.
" Come on Mazda!" I liked that for some reason. Power and gearing could be contributing factors....as a Honda head I'm glad the Civic won we used to be underdogs in the power dept. Thanks for your videos and there 👉🏽simplicity 👈🏽.🔰🔥🏎️🇺🇸👍🏾
Not sure what you mean EXPECTED. Not at all what I expected. www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a22678665/2019-mazda-mx-5-miata-engine-more-power/ www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a32770462/2020-honda-civic-si-by-the-numbers/
This was super dope. Really good race and driving by the both of you. Miata sounds great and the Civic looks great. Only the coupe looks good as far as the 10th generation is concerned, the sedan and the type R are booty juice.
Yea, once I catch a whiff of tuned versus stock, I don't care to compare anymore. Although that is one nice thing about the Honda, it is definitely cheaper to tune a factory turbo car. I test drove a two-door SI and I liked it, but it didn't feel as good as my Fiesta ST.
Sam your videos are awesome. I subscribed because you get straight to the point. Could you do more videos of the 10th gen Civic Si coupe? Much love from Guam 🇬🇺
The best part is both these cars will last till 200k with no problems as long as their taken care of halfway decent 💪🏼💪🏼 I have a 08 accord with k24 that has 225k and is showing no signs of stopping and it gets driven pretty hard daily
I’m a Honda guy but I was expecting the Miata to take that one. Then again when a FF manages to hook up off a dig they are pretty quick. 2nd run was close because the guy had WAY too much wheel spin. When drag racing a front wheel drive. You get a a base run with a low rpm launch. Better to bog than to spin. Next run increase rpms depending on how bad you boy until you get it just right. To where you land close to the power band without wheel spin.
Lovely race sam! I love how well the Mazda did. It’s also NA, not turbo so people don’t realize how well it kept up! Can we get a tuned GLI vs tuned veolester N please
To be fair it weights a lot less and I mean a lot also the si has the wing and the side skirt that honda said gives it more downforce...which we all know slows it down on a drag race. Each one has it's advantages but still the answer is always a miata
Man I actually love the way you shift, but since is rear wheel drive you could rev the engine more from the dig. I’m new to the channel and I love it, congrats bro, you should have way more subscribers..
4th run is how it's done. Fwd will not out launch a rwd. Also his shifting was more on point then the rest of his runs. Small mistakes actually make a big difference when racing. Most of his shifts were over revved and not great launches.
I had a '17 SI. 3rd gear is a monster. The Mazda needed to catch it off tje line.Surprised though given the power to weight advantage of the Mazda that it didn't do better. Torque curve probably favors the Honda. I used to love the passing or merging ability of the SI. Stoplight racing not its thing. Nor mine.
I heard Gregory is going to be running 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines. And on top of that he just came into Harry's and he ordered 3 T66 turbos, with NOS, and a Motec system exhaust.
BN9 the si is made for someone who wants a sporty daily that can be driven year round I’d much rather have a si over a Miata and I’ve had 2 Miatas lol (also my prelude and fiesta st would shit on either of my miatas on the back roads)
Omg watching someone shift like that is a rare scene 😂 I used to drive my civic like that like my life depended on it even though I never went anywhere forward 🤣🤣
@@tom11zz884 I suspect the other dig races would have been in the favor of the Miata had the driver gave the car more revs when launching. There’s no reason that the Miata shouldn’t be a car length ahead after the first gear. The Civic is more powerful for sure. I wonder how stock the car truly is. It has an exhaust, light weight wheels, lowered and other visual mods. I’m sure he’s running an intake and possibly a tune. Not stock at all.
Willing to bet that aftermarket exhaust the Si had certainly helped it. Adding an exhaust doesn't add much power nor does your "butt Dyno" feel much of a difference, however, I've raced cars with stock vs. catback exhausts and the results were there. 1/2-full+ car lengths typically on digs/rolls.
@@TheBb6prelude Best 0 to 60 for the Mazda has been 5.7, have you seen a SI tested under 6 seconds? Or are you a "Driver Mod" that can make up the difference.
Dude it's light really light.... Remember the Integra type R? That had less hp and torque then the si but just as fast..why? Because it was 300 pounds lighter. That affects the car a ton. This Miata is almost 500 pounds or more lighter then the si. That's impressive. That's a lot of weight reduction.
@@227conejo nope. He said it himself, the miata felt dead after 6000rpm. You get nothing from 6-7k rpm out of that miata engine, remember, It's not V-TEC nor boosted.
Mazda ND 2 doesn't need more hp, it's just a right set-up end very very fun car to drive, everything is not in the straight line speed, but overal handling and given emotions, pure adrenaline!
@@Elcasadekotse just keep engine peepy playing with gearbox, its so fun, the same i was doing with my civic si (2.0 l 200 hp but no torque) , so i have never had a probleme reving above 6000 and keeping me and car happy😉
@@gurgenmakaryan4428 Same here, had to keep rpm up, rarely have to change gear. A lil more torque would be fun tho. Planning to adjust compresion ration and bolting on some aftermarket turbo.
Everyone talking down on the si like it doesnt have a standard mechanical lsd and turns like a 70s boat. Miata probably would feel more natural in a corner but not so sure it would be faster. Use to own an s2000 and it was fantastic in corners but let's be honest a modern v6 minivan would eat it in a straight line. I think the si would win in a lap test as well because boost and an lsd are hard to overcome depending on elevation, temps and a load of other variables.
The Miata has never been known as a quick car, but this ND can run with the Civic Si, which is impressive. I own an '01 NB and I'm sure it would be almost comical to watch the Civic run away from it. I wonder how the recently discontinued Abarth 124 Spyder would fare with the turbocharged engine. Whatever the call, I have never enjoyed a car more than my Miata. It's reliable enough to serve as a daily driver, but handles like a slot car and goes topless on good days. And most importantly, chicks dig it.
Can run with a stock one - once you add a tune to the Si the MX5 is left far far behind Pity Mazda never puts a good engine in them.....would be a real weapon with a Honda engine under the hood of the Mx5
In addition to the lighter wheels on the Civic and the custom exhaust, it is also lowered, reducing drag/wind resistance....3 advantages at least over the stock Miata.
Biggest disadvantage is the insufferable rev hang and “not great” shifter on the Si. I’ve also got a 10th gen Si, and a auto cross-kitted NB. I HATE everything about the tranny on that Si; rev hang, dual mass flywheel and the shifter. Shifter feels nice and mechanical while rowing but always a bit plastic, and the clutch take up couldn’t be any more vague
I'd like to see those two cars race a windy road. I love those Miatas too! I want to get one. I believe Flyin' Miata has a few California legal turbos for them with CARB EO numbers. I'd really like to have the LS3 swap though, haha!
Mazda built for track. Check also gas consumption of other competitors. To know more about weight ratio. Drag race does not correlate to car performance. Especially daily drive.
this is the beuty of such cars, :D they are fun, they are a good compromise and they are a perfect daily , especially the Si ;) I onw the Si and I am shocked that it is way cheaper than most cars, its sporty, its fun and has better quality of materials than premium vags, not to mention the relyability ;)
That guy in the civic isn't very good at shifting (at least in this vid), while yours was spot on the whole time. Made the race much closer. In the runs where he shifted better, the Si walked the Miata.
Bro this was better than the last 4 fast and furious movies
I shit my pants that was so funny!
Hahhaha
Sam u should try out for the next vin diesel role
They should have stopped after 3 lmao... definitely not 5
@@6.4inAz let this Sink in
Tokyo Drift was the last Good Fast movie
Haven't seen such aggressive shifting since the first Fast and Furious movie. Danger to Manifold!
This is how I have shift my miata when im racing high school kids in their moms SUV BMW lmao
Love mazda... But look horrible on this video ajajaja
@@scottstarck293 LOL!!! so true
With it being sooo close it would have been interesting to have the drivers swap cars and see if that has any influence on the results.
" I'm shifting like my life is depending on it " 🤣 love this channel
Your enthusiasm makes this way more enjoyable to watch!!
He literally captures the essence of what we would be like if we were in his shoes.
I own one of each. They are both GREAT cars in their own right. The MX-5 is a blast on the curves; while the Si is a much more comfortable but reasonably quick car. Neither are fast mind you, but both are fun to drive!
Lucky guy
I have the same goals. I decided on the ordinary Civic coupe since it still has the old VTEC crossover in it. Hoping to get an ND Miata sometime next year. Happy driving!
@@mcdoink123 Have you gotten the ND yet? If so how is it?
@@javianbrown8627 unfortunately I have not. It's a year or more wait according to the dealer I was speaking to. That was about a year ago now though. I ended up getting a used NA instead. Couldn't be happier.
All the used ND's in my area at the time were ND1's.
This is becoming one of my favorite car TH-cam channel. Keep up the great content!
Welcome
The MX-5 put a valiant effort and I'm sure he's having a lot more fun!
a lot more fun?.. he’s clearly frustrated 🤣
@@b1bo840 frustrated? He has stated many times that he loves the miata. LOL
@@ZACH_95_ behind the camera you bet he is calling the miata a piece of shite
@@automachinehead Nobody in the right mind would do that.
@@oemj7147 then everybody's probably not in their right mind because i've only known two people irl who prefer the mx-5 over anything else and you can see in their faces that they made a mistake in their purchase and are severely coping
Best real races on TH-cam love his enthusiasm and great match up can we get the Q50 races
Coming
As an ex 2018 MX5 club owner i sorely miss this car.Sam the visceral sound and feel in this car is like no other,you hear smell feel everything while your driving the Miata.Is not a fast car but quick and the handling is amazing.Now the way I had it with e85 tune is a little rocket and suggest to get a tune by Fab9 guys they are amazing and the support to the Miata community.Again thank you Sam and really enjoyed this video and hate you for it cause know I'm thinking into buying another one.Love you guys and God Bless everyone.
I freaking love this channel and this was one of my favorite races I think!
:)
Sold a mint 2018 ND1 last year. If you ever get a chance to drive a Miata on a long winding road, especially the ND1 or ND2, then you will understand why “Mazda is always the answer”. Speed has nothing to do with it. It’s pure driving bliss.
I love it
@@SamCarLegion If possible, could you consider testing the 2021 Mini Cooper JCW GP? It’s around $45k in many US dealerships and it’s supposedly a rocket nobody is buying. Thanks and great channel!
I love it. I like this saying better, that racing was never about going fast but about staying fast. Add some twists and the Miata is going to be a bullet around the curves.
What did you sell it for
@@mamba109 the mx-5 is known for cooking the block faster than any japanese cars
the mx5 is just gorgeous
Agreed
I am a new subscriber I like how you get to the point straight to the race. Keep the drag race coming
A Forte GT vs that Civic Si would be interesting...
Iv race a Kia Forte turbo with my 2006 monte carlo ss won by 2 cars
@@willzuehlke37 ahaha right, one tried to pull on my g35 and ate dust
🤣🤣🤣😂
Kia would lose
@@XenomorphLV426 lmao it’s vids of the forte wit the dct beating si stock for stock
The fact that it kept up for as long as it did is impressive considering it has less horsepower and is NA…in the street by the time the SI starts gapping the Miata you’re at illegal going to jail speeds and that’s why you get a Miata
Great enthusiasm on the part of the host, making for a funny, entertaining video.
I personally prefer the earlier versions of both the Civic Si and the Mazda MX-5. There were fewer safety regulations for designers to contend with a couple of decades ago, so both of these cars looked better to my eye during that point time (give or take a number of years). The older cars also appeal more to me as I'm exactly not a fan of things like driving modes, traction control or infotainment screens. The cool thing for people that share my sentiments is that both Mazda and Honda have been building great vehicles for a long time now. If you can manage to find a clean, well-maintained example of either car from twenty years ago with reasonable mileage (it doesn't have to be low-mileage), they're still great cars today. (Make mine a manual transmission please.)
I like his enthusiasm 😁👍. Always good stuff keep it up.
Good racing it was closer than I thought it would be! I have never lost to a miata in a drag race! Can't wait for MAXIMA VS K5 GT ! Nice work Sam.
Maxima will get walked by an GLI, an accord, an Camary TRD. K5 would eat it for lunch
@@martintintin7729 Well I'm sure everyone would like to see that race, right? Do you wanna see it on Sam car legion? I do.
Please make sure you properly turn off the traction and stability control OFF on the Honda Si it is very...very tricky to do both...!
Stability can be left on as they are only going in a straight line.
@@nighthawk0077 ummm no, the Honda Civic si factory VSA pulls back the throttle really bad as soon as it detects an instance of wheel slip especially from a dig. You have to do what we call a “pedal dance” to fully deactivate it.
@@ValkenDnB Im pretty sure the owner knew what he was doing...I mean, look at his car LOL...
likely had a ktuner/hondata stage 1...
@@M4B21S88 As long as they enabled Advanced VSA/Hondata Traction control before they flashed they should be fine.
@@M4B21S88 no it doesn't have a tune lol it can beat the Miata in a drag race lol it was a lot of torque stock
I cross shopped these two cars and ended up with a civic si coupe. I've had a few miatas and they are phenomenal cars but the civic is more practical obviously. 4 years from now when my son is in college I'm going to go back to the miata roots and build an exocet. You can't lose either way between these two cars for the price
What's the altitude? The MX-5 should have a major advantage w/ power to weight and rwd. Stock vs stock the ND2 MX-5 should get to 60 mph nearly a second quicker than the Si. This looks closer to what the 155 hp ND1 should be lol
Man, I love this channel so much. I would love to see late model WRX vs the SI
Coming soon!
I own an MX5 ND and love it. Its deff not a drag car but get it on the twisties (for which it was made) and the honda would be dust.
Looked like the mx-5 was actually pulling in the top end. It would lose ground in mid rpm where the torque of the civic was much better.
Very good attention 👍👍👍
New sub, that was so cool. You’ve literally got the greatest job on earth
Thank you!
Third gear in the 10th Gen Civic SI REALLY pulls. I just traded my SI for a Forte GT DCT, because traffic and shifting no good together. Can certainly feel boost more in the SI than the Forte GT, but the GT is definitely a fun car to drive. Neither are as fun as the manual GTI, though. Loved that car for the brief time I owned it. I have yet to drive one of these Miatas. Some day...
Where about are u?? Looking for one for a video
I love my Forte GT DCT. I have the gt2 package.
@@jayniks74 what's the GT2 pkg add?
@@dnegel9546 fwd collision avoidance-pedestrian, power sunroof with sunshade, smart cruise control (scc), harmon kardon sound system (320 watt w subwoofer), wireless phone charger, synthetic leather seat trim w power adjust driver heated and cooled front seats, parking distance warning-reverse (PDW-R), overhead LED front and rear reading lights.
I also tinted the windows, got KIA brand all weather mats, and installed a Velossa Tech Big Mouth ram air intake.
" Come on Mazda!" I liked that for some reason. Power and gearing could be contributing factors....as a Honda head I'm glad the Civic won we used to be underdogs in the power dept. Thanks for your videos and there 👉🏽simplicity 👈🏽.🔰🔥🏎️🇺🇸👍🏾
always fun to watch Sam !!
Good race and much more telling than specs you read online. Great shifting by both drivers!
the only thing that’s telling is the difference between 2 drivers
Such cute cars. Never realized how light the MX5 is.
Civic Si crushed it as expected.
That said the Miata is much more fun to drive
Stock MX5 did very well against Modified turbo SI. He didnt blow him away.
Yeah, I wouldn't say the Si "crushed" it. The MX5 did win once so it's just barely behind for a car meant to be driven on windy roads.
@@bgr5214 stock
@@elianmorales4855
Yesterday when I asked, Sam replied and stated the Civic Si had an exhaust and intake. Definitely not stock.
Not sure what you mean EXPECTED. Not at all what I expected.
www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a22678665/2019-mazda-mx-5-miata-engine-more-power/
www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a32770462/2020-honda-civic-si-by-the-numbers/
This was super dope. Really good race and driving by the both of you. Miata sounds great and the Civic looks great. Only the coupe looks good as far as the 10th generation is concerned, the sedan and the type R are booty juice.
Na type r are awesome..
@@hondasarefaster5914 the car itself is cool. But, it's an eyesore. It's cool that you like it though.
Sedan is the better looking if the 3 imo
Rooting for the SI but love the MX5.
The Miata is a super fun car to drive. Not the fastest one but surely handles pretty well.
That Si has an aftermarket exhaust. That is fact. I wouldn’t be surprised if it had a tune, too.
Well he said it didn't have a tune.
@@dnegel9546 he said but who really knows :)
Yea, once I catch a whiff of tuned versus stock, I don't care to compare anymore.
Although that is one nice thing about the Honda, it is definitely cheaper to tune a factory turbo car.
I test drove a two-door SI and I liked it, but it didn't feel as good as my Fiesta ST.
I agree because it’s supposed to do 15.1 and the Mazda a 14.5 on the 1/4 mile
@@ernestoduran5610 i was thinking the same thing
Sam your videos are awesome. I subscribed because you get straight to the point. Could you do more videos of the 10th gen Civic Si coupe? Much love from Guam 🇬🇺
Definitely
The best part is both these cars will last till 200k with no problems as long as their taken care of halfway decent 💪🏼💪🏼 I have a 08 accord with k24 that has 225k and is showing no signs of stopping and it gets driven pretty hard daily
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. BRO 😎 ✌️🌴
I’m a Honda guy but I was expecting the Miata to take that one.
Then again when a FF manages to hook up off a dig they are pretty quick. 2nd run was close because the guy had WAY too much wheel spin. When drag racing a front wheel drive. You get a a base run with a low rpm launch. Better to bog than to spin. Next run increase rpms depending on how bad you boy until you get it just right. To where you land close to the power band without wheel spin.
Driver mod needed. Miata runs a half second faster in the quarter mile. Needed a better launch.
Lovely race sam! I love how well the Mazda did. It’s also NA, not turbo so people don’t realize how well it kept up! Can we get a tuned GLI vs tuned veolester N please
To be fair it weights a lot less and I mean a lot also the si has the wing and the side skirt that honda said gives it more downforce...which we all know slows it down on a drag race. Each one has it's advantages but still the answer is always a miata
🤮🤮🤮
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn for your wife or daughter?
@@6.4inAz huh
he’s sayin miata’s are for girls
The MX5 shifts at 7500, you were only taking it to 7000?
not only that but he cant drive
also civic is modded
@@thaydathroeun8678 really? then the miata is quicker?
@@Fold-103 stock for stock yes slightly quicker in straight line
@@thaydathroeun8678 Interesting… how would the spider 124 fair?
You did a great job too even tho you was underpowered,,great driving 👍
My two favorite automakers ❤️💙
Always Fun to watch !
Man I actually love the way you shift, but since is rear wheel drive you could rev the engine more from the dig. I’m new to the channel and I love it, congrats bro, you should have way more subscribers..
4th run is how it's done. Fwd will not out launch a rwd. Also his shifting was more on point then the rest of his runs. Small mistakes actually make a big difference when racing. Most of his shifts were over revved and not great launches.
I had a '17 SI. 3rd gear is a monster. The Mazda needed to catch it off tje line.Surprised though given the power to weight advantage of the Mazda that it didn't do better. Torque curve probably favors the Honda. I used to love the passing or merging ability of the SI. Stoplight racing not its thing. Nor mine.
I heard Gregory is going to be running 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines. And on top of that he just came into Harry's and he ordered 3 T66 turbos, with NOS, and a Motec system exhaust.
Lmao are you gonna around checking everyone's shit out, huh Brian..!???
Nice to see that the MX-5 can somewhat keep up in a straight line like this, even though the car was made for windy back roads more.
The si isn’t exactly made for straight line acceleration either haha
@@tyhyhh Yeah, it's made for teens who just learned how to drive and people who need an affordable car to get from A to B with good fuel economy lol.
@@BN99239 How many teens in North America know how to drive a manual?
BN9 the si is made for someone who wants a sporty daily that can be driven year round I’d much rather have a si over a Miata and I’ve had 2 Miatas lol (also my prelude and fiesta st would shit on either of my miatas on the back roads)
@@NaijaBull Quite a lot here still, but that's a personal experience and I know manuals are going extinct.
Omg watching someone shift like that is a rare scene 😂 I used to drive my civic like that like my life depended on it even though I never went anywhere forward 🤣🤣
What I learned from this video, to get faster in mazda, you need to shout "Come on mazda!"
That was a great race Sam
MX-5 has got this one. Even if it doesn't though, the driver will be having a lot more fun.
Indeed
Civic Si just ate it for Lunch....lol
Well both are not exactly fast and the Si is still a good time too.
@@tom11zz884 I suspect the other dig races would have been in the favor of the Miata had the driver gave the car more revs when launching. There’s no reason that the Miata shouldn’t be a car length ahead after the first gear. The Civic is more powerful for sure. I wonder how stock the car truly is. It has an exhaust, light weight wheels, lowered and other visual mods. I’m sure he’s running an intake and possibly a tune. Not stock at all.
Willing to bet that aftermarket exhaust the Si had certainly helped it. Adding an exhaust doesn't add much power nor does your "butt Dyno" feel much of a difference, however, I've raced cars with stock vs. catback exhausts and the results were there. 1/2-full+ car lengths typically on digs/rolls.
Hold up.... MX5 n/a 4 banger vs Civic SI turbo 4 banger ??? The MX5 preformed very well against the modified SI. Thats actually Impressive!!!
Stock for stock Si will win the same way with me driving it. Honda is turbo but only 1.5 liter vs a 1.8 liter.
Also 2300 lbs vs 2800
preludeF20Bking the maita is a 2l
@@TheBb6prelude Best 0 to 60 for the Mazda has been 5.7, have you seen a SI tested under 6 seconds? Or are you a "Driver Mod" that can make up the difference.
@@garys2157 arguing a 0 to 60 with cars that you get your wife or child.. hmm...
Honda Accord 2.0 vs Nissan Altima VC Turbo next race
Nice. Do Sentra vs Civic or Sienna vs Odyssey
I also want to see minivans racing. I'd like to see a rematch of a Pacifica vs 86
You might not understand that to make that Miata go that fast without a turbo is amazing as is.
Dude it's light really light.... Remember the Integra type R? That had less hp and torque then the si but just as fast..why? Because it was 300 pounds lighter. That affects the car a ton. This Miata is almost 500 pounds or more lighter then the si. That's impressive. That's a lot of weight reduction.
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn it is! But also I al.ost know for a fact that that Miata is stock but that Si doesn't look it.
@@redrum3835 it is stock maybe he was brake boosting which makes for a better launch then all that torque comes in handy in the long run
As a ND mx5 owner which is an amazing car. It’s not fast in a straight line. But put it on the curves and let’s see who wins.
😆 amazing video - great job driving the miata!
I think if you shift that Miata by 6000rpm you could get a better result than redlining it since max torque and power is achieved at about 5600rpm.
Exaclty!!!!
This is an ND2 with the updated engine. It's max power is about 7000RPM
Same for the si, it’s actually better to shift at 6k because it falls on its face after that.
@@227conejo nope. He said it himself, the miata felt dead after 6000rpm. You get nothing from 6-7k rpm out of that miata engine, remember, It's not V-TEC nor boosted.
@@linkinparkdrift nope. 6k. Unless it's got a cam in it.
Wonder if the Mazda engine still working
I own a 2020 Honda Civic SI sedan. It's quick but fast. I enjoy it cause it's fun to drive 🚗. The Mazda looks like it would be just as fun.
Boi its not even comparable. The only car the comes close is a honda S2000.
Just curious how about civic si vs forte GT
Honda Civic Si vs Kia Forte GT would be an interesting race, they stack up very similarly
;)
about what i expected. love both cars!
@@nickmotsarsky4382 everyone reads an article and knows everything about the car. So cute
@@nickmotsarsky4382 there are more factors than that bubba sorry..
Ok now you need to add in the Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ. That would be cool.
Trying to find them 3)
that was an intense race!! very cool.
And after the warm-up band is done we'll get to the main act; watching paint dry! 🤣
Dude shifting has gotten better
both cars are sick 👍
I think Mazda has to step up their game with making their cars more powerful. especially their "sporty cars"
Mazda ND 2 doesn't need more hp, it's just a right set-up end very very fun car to drive, everything is not in the straight line speed, but overal handling and given emotions, pure adrenaline!
@@gurgenmakaryan4428 brought mine to the mountains many times, it lacks torque down low especially when going up the mountain in a hairpin curve.
@@Elcasadekotse just keep engine peepy playing with gearbox, its so fun, the same i was doing with my civic si (2.0 l 200 hp but no torque) , so i have never had a probleme reving above 6000 and keeping me and car happy😉
@@gurgenmakaryan4428 Same here, had to keep rpm up, rarely have to change gear. A lil more torque would be fun tho. Planning to adjust compresion ration and bolting on some aftermarket turbo.
Holy shit that was intense lol. You should be able to subscribe multiple times. I’d subscribed 7,345 times by now 😂
Lool
"come on Mazda .... come on Mazda.. Rrrrrrrrrrrr. ahhhh he's gone : D " you can feel his frustration...
Vtec kicked in yooo
- Master Oogway
Everyone talking down on the si like it doesnt have a standard mechanical lsd and turns like a 70s boat. Miata probably would feel more natural in a corner but not so sure it would be faster. Use to own an s2000 and it was fantastic in corners but let's be honest a modern v6 minivan would eat it in a straight line. I think the si would win in a lap test as well because boost and an lsd are hard to overcome depending on elevation, temps and a load of other variables.
A lot of MX-5's also have mechanical LSD's. The one in this video may have been a base (sport) model without one though, they didn't say.
Would love to see the Civic Si vs either The Elantra sport or the Forte GT 🤔
🤮🤮🤮🤮
Although Civic has won the race but am still loving maita Mx5 ♥️
I think the exhaust played a role in the Si pulling
5 bhp
SI is tuned or there's a driver issue here :)
Its a tire issue.
I understood the Civic had an aftermarket intake and exhaust? If so, this proves what?
@@fredzeppelin3969 Ive never come across an Si that has exhaust, intake, wheels, typer R H, that is stock tune...
@@M4B21S88 damn you caught youtuber Sam, he is a liar... or yall just can't take his word?
The Miata has never been known as a quick car, but this ND can run with the Civic Si, which is impressive. I own an '01 NB and I'm sure it would be almost comical to watch the Civic run away from it. I wonder how the recently discontinued Abarth 124 Spyder would fare with the turbocharged engine. Whatever the call, I have never enjoyed a car more than my Miata. It's reliable enough to serve as a daily driver, but handles like a slot car and goes topless on good days. And most importantly, chicks dig it.
Can run with a stock one - once you add a tune to the Si the MX5 is left far far behind
Pity Mazda never puts a good engine in them.....would be a real weapon with a Honda engine under the hood of the Mx5
In addition to the lighter wheels on the Civic and the custom exhaust, it is also lowered, reducing drag/wind resistance....3 advantages at least over the stock Miata.
The stock turbo is actually the bigger advantage than those three combined.
@@6.4inAz It helps, but the driver never wins a race if you watch his videos. His reaction time and driving skills are terrible.
Biggest disadvantage is the insufferable rev hang and “not great” shifter on the Si. I’ve also got a 10th gen Si, and a auto cross-kitted NB. I HATE everything about the tranny on that Si; rev hang, dual mass flywheel and the shifter. Shifter feels nice and mechanical while rowing but always a bit plastic, and the clutch take up couldn’t be any more vague
Mazda is a sports car and in no needs of fancy modes or whatever.
Do civic si vs gt86/frs, great videos
1:15 Civic has gotten big! Miata is a small car, but the Civic is at least 30% larger.
I can take the lightweight MX-5 full throttle in curvy roads with out breaking vs heavier high hp brut power!?
Then get a c5 z, cheaper, lighter, and faster. Or you can spend 30k on a miata...
Race a gti against a bmw 428 civic si or charger v6 to make it spicy
The Best manual transmision in the world, Honda - Mazda 🇯🇵🇯🇵
Chit, good luck finding a new SI! I ended up with a 2021 CVT Sport Touring lol!
I had a 1989 CRX SI... I surprised a chit ton of people lol!
Rip those transmissions
you could’ve easily picked up a ‘19-‘20 si
I'd like to see those two cars race a windy road. I love those Miatas too! I want to get one. I believe Flyin' Miata has a few California legal turbos for them with CARB EO numbers. I'd really like to have the LS3 swap though, haha!
Mazda built for track. Check also gas consumption of other competitors. To know more about weight ratio. Drag race does not correlate to car performance. Especially daily drive.
Wheels and exhaust is enough to make a noticable difference...
this is the beuty of such cars, :D they are fun, they are a good compromise and they are a perfect daily , especially the Si ;) I onw the Si and I am shocked that it is way cheaper than most cars, its sporty, its fun and has better quality of materials than premium vags, not to mention the relyability ;)
That guy in the civic isn't very good at shifting (at least in this vid), while yours was spot on the whole time. Made the race much closer. In the runs where he shifted better, the Si walked the Miata.
Cx-5 vs Cr-v is gonna be fun bro.
Love this! Can you do Accord 2.0t vs Infiniti Q50 3.7
What happened during that fourth run? Did the Honda guy lose his grip?
What upgrades does the civic have? Because it’s supposed to do a 15.1 on the 1/4 mile and the MX-5 14.5 🤷🏻♂️
Driver mod, hardest mod to buy..
I need to go find me a Civic Si with my Abarth 124 Spider now running a Eurocomplusion Phase Two tune on its 1.4 liter turbo and about 2,450 lbs.
Honda power
Lol honda power but this tuned pos civic could barely outrun a stock miata 🤣🤣
@@cheddarballs864 it's not tuned lol besides power to weight ratio Miata has that advantage
@@cheddarballs864 so mad lol. 500 lbs lighter still loses
@@6.4inAz lol I don't give a fuck tbh. Civic has an aftermarket exhaust. You really think it's not possible he has a tune on it?