I've just recently picked up carp fishing again after a 25 year break. In the 1980s we never had these complex rigs so this is all stuff I need to learn. Your videos are fantastic for this, clear and easy to understand. I'm definitely subscribing.
Hi Richard, thanks very much for commenting and for subscribing. I started in the early 80s myself. All I used was two grains of side hooked corn and an open ended feeder. I was away from fishing for ten years (I skipped the 90s) and when I returned I didn't recognise the sport I knew so I had to start from zero. It’s been a long road lol. I started this channel because I got lucky. I met guys that cut through the crap and helped me to understand what actually matters. Bit by bit I’m trying to share this with a wider audience and save anglers time and money while being more successful at this wonderful but complicated sport. Cheers, Matt.
Your presentation leaves no stone unturned. A lot of other vids miss out crucial parts and expect the novice angler to somehow fill in the blanks.Even as an experienced angler I enjoy how you calmly go about explaining not just how, but why you do what you do. Keep up the great work!!
Hi mate, thanks very much for the awesome feedback. We really do appreciate it. I’ve been coaching anglers at Beausoleil for many years now so I understand that the “why” is just as important as the “how” and let’s not forget the “when!” It’s really cool to get such support from anglers of all abilities. I’ve always believed that you are never too old to learn. I’m still learning every day! All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
Clear,precise and informative as always Matt. My “go to” TH-camr for carp fishing. Really appreciate you taking the time to produce these videos for us.
Hi Matthew, My name is Leo and I'm from the Netherlands and you are one of the few English speakers who speak calmly and well articulated so that I can understand it too. I want to make a big complement for your clear explanation. thanks.
Hi Leo, well, I am really happy to hear this, thank you. I know we have a big international audience so I'm super pleased that you can follow and enjoy my videos 😊
Absolutely brilliant video, Hand on heart yes I was one of these idiots that pushed the tail rubber home . I didn’t understand but you have opened my eyes,I now have invested in the vital terminal tackle and set my rigs as discussed. Yep works a treat every time . Recently I have recovered other peoples tackle and on examination their are more and more people not understanding the simple and safe rig system! Thanks very much..
Hi Andy, thanks for taking the time to comment and share your experiences. I reckon I made every mistake in the book when learning this game so don’t beat yourself, it’s a complicated sport! Glad that you’ve got yourself the right bits to make this rig and that you are happy with it. Our guests last week used this one and after a day with me they smashed their PB’s out of the park on this lead setup. Enjoy! Matt.
Hi mate, thanks very much for commenting. I’m glad you like the rig. I can promise you that it is very very effective in a wide range of fishing situations. Cheers, Matt.
Brilliant as always Matt. The first time I tried this rig I caught a gnarly old fish, half a pound short of thirty - a new PB for me for the lake. One thing I am now doing is using a Korda Hybrid Lead Clip - the one with the integral ring swivel and connection loop, so no need for a seperate ring swivel and peg like the Nash system. The Korda clip has serrations on the shank and grips the tail rubber a treat. Saves fiddling about aligning swivel eyes and scratching around for the peg which has dropped in the grass and got itself lost!!
Hello sir, nice to hear from you and thanks for sharing. I’ve not been fishing with this setup much of late as I’m testing a new running clip that will make this system redundant but good to know that you’ve found a better way of doing it. All the best, Matt.
@@spudmurphy3186 Cheers mate, yeah it’s a very exciting product and I’ve got a few special tweaks to add to it 😉Can’t say more as it’s not released until next Jan but we are hoping to do a video soon so it’s ready to go live when the product is released. I can give you a sneak peek though. Don’t blink or you’ll miss it lol: th-cam.com/video/d7TJuAt5hkk/w-d-xo.html Cheers, Matt.
I'm glad someone has put a video out explaining this as I see it being done wrong all the time. So many people have no clue they are basically fishing a tether rig unwittingly.
Hi John, thanks very much for commenting. I'm glad that you see the value to this video. It's not deliberate malice on the anglers’ part, it's just that not every angler fully understands the implications of what they are doing. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
This is a brilliant tip! I've been fishing from a young age on and off and have just bought my first proper 3 rod carp setup. One thing that I was concerned about was losing leads after every take. As it could become very costly. I will for sure be using this setup now. To start my carp fishing journey. This a accompanied along with a pop up hook with a PVA sleeved filled with 3-4 boiles. Should be very effective rig I'm thinking. I'm super excited to get on the bank and give it a try! Thanks buddy for all your help and inspiration!
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and for the support! Much appreciated. Not sure what you mean by a popup hook lol. My favourite go-to hook is the Nash Chod Twister. You can use it with most rig materials. If you haven't watched my mono hair rig video then do have a watch. It works very well with the shock & run rig and mono is cheap. Here’s the link: th-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/w-d-xo.html Cheers, Matt.
This semi-fixed rig avoids dropping the lead or the carp using the lead inertia, but to me the primary reason to use the rig was it really improves bite detection. Assuming the mechanic works of course. Whether the line is straight, tight, bowed or slack, pinned down by a back lead, when the carp frees the line from the lead, even if it is moving towards the rod, the line reels out. I fish natural fish in rivers only, and that's good both to not leave a lead in the water and to not loose too many fish. Downside of the rig is the bottom has to be clean enough, and the lead has to be heavy enough. Doesn't work in the middle of weeds or buried into silt. I make this rig with a Fox Tadpole insert, cut in half, and the swivel is simply inserted into the tadpole. I really like your channel. Thanks for the video.
Hi mate, thanks very much for your support. It really means a lot to us that you are getting so much from our work. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt hope you're well.I went fishing this week to a members only lake it was a hard couple of days .out of thirteen angler's only three caught anything.I had two carp on your shock and run rig. I was fishing on two gravel spots and one to a far marginal shelf. On the second day I noticed carp showing in the middle of nowhere with no real features on silt. So I put a couple of the showing fish, free casting no marking up or leading around so as not to make much disturbance.small leads shock and run set up.thats what did the business ,I'm really getting some good results.cheers Matt keep the tips coming.
Hi Darren, that’s great to hear and and well done of bagging two when everyone was struggling. I did a little experiment with helicopter rigs on some hard spots at the weekend and I got done 4 times in 24rs. I did catch one but that’s not a good ratio lol. The shock and run gives you the best of both worlds and the lead system tells you if you’ve been done which is so important. I’m still experimenting with pure running rigs and I do like them a lot. The trouble is that if your hooks aren't up to snuff then you’ll still get done all day long. More videos on the way so keep testing and letting us know how we are doing. Very best regards, Matt.
Just an Internal rubber from an inline lead also with some PVA tape, saves butchering lead clips, or just don't put the peg through the swivel.. one thing I've found using similar is it can cause a fair bit of mainline line twist when reeling in, due to the angle the lead kicks off the swivel at, blistering takes though.
you should check this out: Pole Position CS Safety Lead Clip This is also safe with a line break because only the rig will be left and has the same properties as this system
Excellent video, very easy to understand. I will never use a lead again, inline is a lot safer. Knowing there's a chance, a lead clip can be set up wrong, makes me not use them. Fish safety is the number 1 priority for me.
Simple and effective. Thanks you for sharing. I had this exact same problem , always lost the lead while playing the fish. It was killing my pocket. Great video.
Hi mate, thanks very much for the feedback. Really glad that you liked it, yeah, there are benefits not just for your wallet but for the water quality as well. IMO it’s just not necessary to dump the lead most of the time. Have a great season. Cheers, Matt.
The first few minutes was a god send i've struggled like mad trying to thread mainline though tubing for ages now i was going to ask about it but i've now seen how to make it easier thank you. great video have been working my way through them as they are the best informative videos on how to do different set ups
Hi Tony, we made a dedicated video on how to thread tubing easily a few years ago as it’s something I know many struggle with. Here’s the link if it helps: th-cam.com/video/MT40tS32yWM/w-d-xo.html Cheers, Matt.
Wow 5 star Matthew, been fishing lead clip for since they came out but I shall be changing my set up to running rigs. never seen a safer rig in my opinion
Hi Terence, thanks for the feedback and I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’ve been fishing running rigs for years, don’t see the point in fishing anything else 90% of the time. If you’re interested, there are a few running rig videos on the channel. Enjoy, Matt.
Mathew, I am glad I came across your posts! There is no way I would have understood better these rigs had I not watched. New to this having bought weight clips and no instructions I was completely in the dark as to what they were supposed to do! I now better understand thank you. Where I fish (in a canal marina basin) there is a huge problem with weed ! I am trying long pop up rig to get on the top of the weed bed ? Not sure if that’s correct. Also I realised that any carp in there (which there is) are not accustomed to boillies. So next time after correcting my rig I think I use pop up plus sweet corn ?thanks again
Hi Chris, glad you're enjoying the channel! I’ve never fished a marina basin for carp but I do fish for river carp and I use boilies (lots of them!). Even carp that don’t know what a boilie is will recognise it as food and eat it. I use a high attract bait like the Nash Candy Nut Crush. Prebaiting in advance is essential to hold them in an area. Personally I wouldn't use a long popup rig, I just use bottom baits and fish them on the bottom. If there’s some weed about I cast around and look for clear, polished areas to present my rigs onto. Regular pre-baiting will clear any weed that’s about anyway. Particles are quite useful for this because it’s cheap and the carp will demolish an area as they search out every last grain. Hope that helps, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler many thanks for your reply, yes we suffer extreme weed growth in there. That’s interesting I take from that, Carp or maybe Tench will clear weed from well baited areas. Presently the weed is on the growth again already around two foot deep and by late summer it’s pretty much near surface from 5 feet thick and above ! I think I may invest in a rake this year!
@@chrisg5271 Yes raking spots and regular feeding with particles is a great method for cleaning spots. Any fish in the area will help with the work. I’ve just watched a great little Nash video with Hassan Kahn on fishing in weed and he uses flake as it sits over and in the weed rather than sinking through it. I’m a fan of the Nash flake myself and I can definitely see it being very effective for fishing in or over weed. Here’s the link: th-cam.com/video/1-b3QbEwhDk/w-d-xo.html
For me this is the perfect blend of safety and effectiveness, going straight into my armoury. I've spent a lot of time on developing rigs and set ups that are first and foremost safe, but secondly don't compromise when it comes to landing fish and this has the lot. I've used the tungsten version of the clips/tail rubbers and added a c clip between the run ring and quick link just in case of a lead jam up but otherwise identical to yours and it works just how I hoped it would. Thanks for the excellent video 👍
Hi Scott, thanks very much for commenting and for your support. I presume by C-clip you mean the ones that break at a specified force? I found the Fox run rings break at a 10lbs of pull and I’ve not had the chance to test the C-clips you mention. The other way to do it is to use the rotten bottom method with some light mono. I haven't covered this subject yet but it’s definitely an option. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
You presume right Matthew, the ones I use are called Gardner drop out chod safety clips. They come in 2 strengths and break at either 3lb or 6lb depending on the size but I found when they're encased in silicon sleeve they take just a little more force. Maybe overkill considering the run ring breaks at 10lb but I do like a belt and braces approach. I've used them on helicopter set ups when not fishing to drop the lead and they work really well to release the lead if needed. Basically a packet of 'rotten bottoms' ready to go 😁
Mathew you're channel is a breath of fresh air, very informative clear etc, others are just based on selling you things ( ok I understand that part) but education is the key - to know why when where with fish care in mind- a carp that has been traumatised- hurt- damaged whatever is now far harder to catch, me personally I like to look at my pic catches knowing it was placed back after just as it was when I hooked it ( yes I've had a scale lift even with tubing once it happens sadly) but with so many people now joining the carping community education really is key 🎣 👍👍👍lee
Hi Lee, thanks for your support mate. I’m delighted that you get what we do. Carp fishing is a complicated and confusing sport. It’s a never ending learning experience and that’s what makes it very dear to my heart. I do what I do because I love it. The harsh reality of this sport is that carp can come to harm as a result of our actions. As long as I’m doing everything I can to minimize risk and damage then I’m okay with that. Over many years I’ve watched carp grow and develop under my care and that’s a special thing. Carp are robust creatures but they are not indestructible and they do not live forever. Cheers, Matt.
I watched this a while ago, but the idea of it stuck with me. I tried it this weekend and it works perfectly as you said. 2 runs and 2 fish on the bank. I think I’ll be fishing my lead clip like this from now on.
No worries mate. Don’t worry, plenty more videos in the pipeline and if there’s something you’d like to see then just let me know and we’ll see what we can do. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matthew, I watch your videos at all times, you demonstrate everything in great detail, I look forward to watching more of the wonderful videos you present. All the best Ernie.
I'm learning so much from your videos, straight forward full explanation and demonstration of your rig set up, thanks . I'll be using your inline lead system on a gravel venue here in the UK, 🙂🙂
Excellent video Matt. I find if you leave a 5mm gap between the line sinker and tubing, the tubing lays nice and flat, otherwise I personally find the tubing kinks and rises off the deck.
Hi Geoff, good question 😊 It depends on the hook size, the diameter of the mono and exactly where I want the hair to exit. If you watch my mono hair rig video: th-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/w-d-xo.html you’ll see that with a size 6 Chod Twister and 0.40 mono, I use 7 turns before adding the bead and I like the way it sits. When using 0.30 mono and a size 8 chod twister I change that number to 9. It’s all very subjective of course. I just look at it and decide whether I like it or not really. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt from the U.S.A.! I have been fishing European style here in the U.S. for roughly 6 years. Once I started, many have helped along the way. Here, we do not have pressured fish, at least I don't think we do. Smaller lakes like there, are not places us wildwater anglers will fish. I have also been into understanding rigs, and find ways to not dump leads everytime. This setup looks like something we can use here. I do fish around snags, so have gone to a setup to where I dump leads if need be. I have found I do lose fish fishing regular lead clips. Not sure at this point what is best. I just hate to think a fish is tethered up and could die. This setup looks good but not around snags, as you mentioned. Thanks for another great video and explanation. Great job! If you can think of a way to fish snags and be able to dump leads, but not necessarily have to every time, that would be great.
Hi Richard, thanks very much for taking the time to comment and for your support. It’s great to know that our work has helped you catch more carp! So I have a couple of ideas for you. The plastic run ring that I use is made by Fox. I did some basic pull tests on it and the ring fails at approximately 10lbs of load so a large powerful fish could probably snap one without much bother. These are probably difficult if not impossible for you to get hold of but there is another option. You could use a ring swivel or a big eyed swivel to run on the mainline instead to form a run ring. Rather than use a quick link to connect the lead directly to the run ring, you could create what sea anglers over here would call “ a rotten bottom”. All you need is a short length of weak mono and simply tie the lead to the run ring with this. I’ve used this system myself when river carp fishing using running leads. There are plenty of rocks in the river and if the lead gets stuck it’s very easy to pull for a break. OK I lose the lead but I get the rest of the setup back. With a little experimentation it’s easy to create rotten bottoms of varying strengths for various situations. The aim is to make the connection as weak as possible so that it’s easy for the carp to break free but at the same time be strong enough to cast the lead far enough so that you don’t break off on the cast. It’s perfect for short range lobs of heavy leads on the river near me. It could also be used with lighter leads at range but there would be limits to how far such a system could be cast. Not an issue if you're using a boat of course. Hope that gives you some food for thought. Do let me know how you get on. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler, awesome. Sounds good, I have a mate here who probably knows what you are talking about. The places we fish are 50 - 100k surface area reservoirs. He and I search out the weed, timber, etc to fish. I am sure between this and his knowledge, will be able to get me sorted out. Thank you for respond and again, great videos. Cheers!
@@matthewcollinsangler, I have some Solar Run Rig Kits. I also use the Avid Lead Clips that do not have the pins. I figured out a modification based on components I have on hand. The.rig works exactly as you describe, Telltale and all. Thanks again. Cheers.
Matt Another great video with very clear instructions from start to finish installation it the line through the tube was great. As how we can use our lead clips safety. And when to use the rig Your videos just get better and better. From close ups to sound 5*
Hi Michael, thanks again for the awesome feedback. We really do appreciate your support! We are always trying to do better. More videos on the way! Cheers, Matt.
Been doing same for 30 years with an inline lead with the insert removed and filed out and pushed onto a tail rubber works exactly the same. My go to rig. And I just use rod lead straps....Great video again tho
Hi mate, thanks for the feedback. I’ve also been fishing with an inline system exactly as you describe for many years and it’s worked really well. I’m sure you’ve done very well on it. I’ve never bothered with rod lead straps myself but it’s a good option if you like to take your rods ready tackled up. The only downside with inline rigs is that they aren't suitable for every fishing situation, they certainly don’t play nicely with mono hooklink IMO, that’s why I came up with a swivel based system. Cheers, Matt.
I love your videos !!! you’re doing a really good job❤ To me, your channel is number one in the carp fishing community!! You fill me with confidence in fishing for carp !!! Thank you for all your great advice and knowledge!!!
Hi great videos I am watching and learning loads from these videos, Could you use the rotten bottom technique with this system and then use it for weedier areas?
Glad you’re enjoying the videos! Absolutely no problem mate, just tune the rotten bottom to the area you’re fishing to get it to work consistently. If the weed’s very thick, you need to dump the lead anyway so you’d need to fish a lead clip or similar.
Hi Mathew, great lead set up used it myself years ago , little added thing ive done in past if using pva bag or funnel web tie a small piece of pva tape around lead clip for long casts just to make sure that the run ring doesn't dis lodge it works a treat and still completely safe. Regards Lee
Hi Lee, good to know that it's been working well for you too. Yes, on a big cast a little PVA tape can really help hold things together. Same goes for a medium chuck with a larger solid PVA bag for when you are fishing parachute bag style. Have a great season. Cheers, Matt.
this is genius Matt. i wonder how this was not picked up and copied by big tackle companies yet 🙂 on other notes, i never understood the need for that overcomplicated leadclip with the pin. the normal one does just as a good job in my opinion.
Hi mate, thanks for the support and I’m glad that you like it. I’ve actually been testing a new product which will make this little creation redundant but it’s not been released yet so I can’t say too much about it. It’s going to be a game changer though. If you’d like a sneak peak watch this: th-cam.com/video/d7TJuAt5hkk/w-d-xo.html Don’t blink or you’ll miss it! We’ll be doing a video all about it once it’s been launched. Cheers, Matt.
Thanks very much Danny. It's a neat little system and it really should help you convert more bites into screaming runs. Lead systems like these have been the go-to approach here for our guests for the last 10 years and everyone swears by them.
Hi Graham, I have been having a think about the implications of doing this and I am not really sure about it. The problem is the elasticity of mono. Under a small amount of tension, a gap appears between the sinker and the tubing. This isn't a big issue when you have a large plastic ring that needs to safely ride over it but a helicopter rig requires a swivel on the mainline. I could see the swivel catching on the sinker and dragging it up the line. During this time there's a greater risk of things getting snarled up with debris etc. Personally I wouldn't use a sinker above the tubing with a Heli setup. Cheers, Matt.
@@grahamrg Yeah for sure! I believe that Korda has just released a tubing based heli system. It has a special little plug that securely attaches the tubing to the buffer bead. It’s all good in theory of course but in my experience tungsten tubing is notorious for cracking and splitting into shorter lengths. If this happens you are relying on the tubing to slide safely up the line and off. If you watch my lead clip video you’ll see that in reality this doesn’t happen because it takes so little for the tubing to jam. IMO the only safe way to fish a tubing based heli system is to fish it as a pure running system without a top bead. If you do need to hold it temporarily in place then I’d just use some PVA tape. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
Neat concept on the running rig tail rubber idea, well thought thru. I'll be giving this a go, thanks. One question on rig tubing. I've never used it. I tend to use lead core or more recently just a naked sinking line. What are the advantages of rig tubing do you use it in every situation?
Hi mate, thanks for commenting. I’m glad that you like the rig. Lots of fisheries (including ours) will insist on the use of rig tubing and that's because it helps protect the carp's flanks during the fight. A bare line can cut into the flesh or lift a scale if they roll on the line. It also helps to protect the last bit of line from damage on rocks etc. I used to use leadcore myself but the lead core can become kinked which can be dangerous on a running lead system. Nowadays I use leadless leader material such as the Nash Cling-on. I carry both the 40lb and the 65lb version depending on the situation. Cling-on sinks well and is super supple so will flow over any rocks or stones better than rig tubing. It’s also fish friendly camouflaged and very abrasion resistant so for me it’s the best all round solution and certainly better than a bare naked setup. Hope that helps, cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt, another brilliant video from you. I do love your cool & collected way of presenting your videos, you make them so easy to understand & I will definitely be trying this set up in the near future. thank you & keep up the good work.
Hi Lawrence, thanks very much for the support 🙏 It’s a great little setup this and a great way to know if the carp are pulling your chain lol. More videos in the pipeline 👍 Cheers, Matt.
Hi Lewis, the simple answer is no, once you take tubing off the mainline it is very hard to re-thread. There are ways to ensure that you don’t ever have to take the tubing off though. Even using inline leads etc. All I do is tie an overhand knot in the mainline and this stops the tubing sliding off. You can even wind the line back on the spool with the tubing and place a long tag end of the mainline in the line clip to stop it coming unravelled. I made a video all about rig tubing so you might find some useful tips here: th-cam.com/video/MT40tS32yWM/w-d-xo.html Best of luck, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Hi Matt. Thanks for replying . I don't own a rod bag just yet, so knowing I can wrap it around the spool is good to know. I hate wasting thing's. This is a great channel, and I've learnt loads . Thank you .
@@lewis3427 That’s fantastic to hear mate. Thanks for choosing us to be your virtual carp fishing guide. If there’s anything that you’d like to see that we haven't covered yet then do let us know. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Paul, yes sure, you can use however much you feel you need. I use 1m because we have big 100lbs + catfish. I actually prefer to use Cling-on lead free leader as it hugs the bottom better but tubing works if rules dictate its use. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt! Wicked info as always. How is this setup performs for long distance casting/power casting? Found the traditional run rig and tube combo a bit weird to cast. Thanks 🙏
Hi mate, glad that you like the setup. I know exactly what you mean. Pure running rigs can be cast at range but you have to use a really small bait and never add any PVA. To set this up for long range with larger baits and/or a bit of PVA mesh, you need to make sure that the swivel is pushed hard onto the tail rubber so it stays in place on a big chuck. If you get that bit right it works great 😉
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and that's awesome to hear! I haven't been able to get hold of the Korum product yet but I'm sure I’ll get around to testing it at some point. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler I am now using the Nash run lead clips after your vid on those - just wanted to ask - do you think they have now superseded this set up or is there a case where you would still use this over the Nash clips?
@@videoondemand-livecircuitt2689 Hi mate, that’s a good question. TBH it’s going to depend on the nature of the venue you are fishing. If it’s weedy and or snaggy then I’d go for the Nash system as the lead will pop off when you need it to. However if I was fishing a runs water which was snag free then the Nash run clip will probably dump too many leads as the takes can be savage on this type of water. If that’s the case I’d use this or just a basic running rig. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
Hi Mark, thanks for your support. Personal choice really. The simple running rig is great for short to medium range work but if you are trying to cast as far as you can and not hit the clip then I’d prefer the shock and run system. The shock and run will work at any distance and is also better if you’re fishing with a PVA stick of crumb so although it’s a bit more technical it’s more universal in that sense. At the business end I’ve been coupling the shock and run with my mono hair rig and my mono ‘D rig. I’ve also been testing a supple braid multi rig with this. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
Absolutely love the in depth explanation on the mechanics and safety of the rig. Just seems so much more logical than the standard lead clip. Did you invent this method yourself?
Hi Tim, thanks very much for the awesome feedback. We really do appreciate it. I came up with this system last winter. I was just tinkering with some rig bits in the bivvy and I got the idea to combine a few bits that are never usually combined. For me, the mechanics aren't really that new. It’s basically a variation of a rig theme that I’ve been using for 12+ years. If you watch my original inline running rig video you’ll see a lot of similarities in the methodology: th-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/w-d-xo.html This version brings various advantages over an inline system. Swivel leads are easier to cast further and you can change sizes and style quickly so there are lots of pluses. Someone else commented that they’ve been doing it too so I’m not the first! There are a couple of similar ready made systems on the market but I haven’t tested them yet. I do hope that you try the rig. Let me know how it goes. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Hi Matthew. I have used this set up a few times now since last commenting. It is very easy to set up (thanks to your video) and use, and i have to good effect landing both carp and catfish. Thankyou 👍
This video was nice! I also like inlines and lead clips with the diameter of the swiwel, so the first "shock" is gained and they also turn into a running rig in a second. Should be added that in these cases the anti tangle also slides away with the lead so this could be a disadvantage.
I understand why you're doing this because it's promoted by certain anglers but this is not a great idea really IMO, I explain why in this video: th-cam.com/video/a6WI6Y1o_Xk/w-d-xo.html
@@matthewcollinsangler Excuse me Sir! I do it beacause I decided to do so and not because it is "promoted". I refuse following trends and fishing based on others promotions. No offense I just wanted to make it clear.
Hi Geoff, I’ve never used the German rig so I can’t comment I’m afraid. The mono hair rig can be used in just about any carp fishing situation. I tend to use it when fishing at range on public waters due to its anti tangle properties and the way in which it resists the attentions of nuisance species. At my own lake I tend to use my little mono D-rig because I’m fishing over large beds of small pellets and the mono D lends itself to being used with small 15mm baits. Hope that gives you food for thought. Cheers, Matt.
Really great video as always. I'm new to carp fishing and you are helping me a lot. So, I really like to get into the small detail when fishing and i was wondering what exactly does the lead clip do in this rig? Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to tie this rig without the lead clip? just push the tailrubber over a size 8 swivel. Should have the same effect. Beste regards.
Hi mate, thanks for the feedback and glad to be part of your journey. I have tried the tail rubber only option but it just doesn't work anywhere near as well as this setup does. The lead tends to hang and take too many shakes before it slides away. This gives Mr. carp too many opportunities to shake the rig out. The other problem is that the tail rubber easily becomes disconnected from the swivel and that can easily create a dangerous rig. That’s why I recommend the combination of materials in the video. Cheers, Matt.
Your innovative and clever ideas have enhanced my carp fishing in a more productive and safe way. I think you need to design your own product range Matt your methodology is unique.
Hi Jordan, wow, well firstly thanks very much for taking the time and trouble to comment and for giving us such positive feedback. What you’re describing is exactly what we aim to achieve. My first proper job was as a design engineer of plastic products so I guess that part of me is still there. It's just been buried for a while! It's just awesome to know that we have positively influenced the way you fish for carp. Cheers, Matt.
Yes mate, as long as you use the other bits that I show in the video, 0.50 or even 0.60 leader naked will work. Here's an alternative where I fish a leader straight down to a Nash heli sleeve, no shock effect but it works very well: th-cam.com/video/NzmQgIiwFI0/w-d-xo.html
Hi matt, this video is perfect timing my members lake now has another lake I can fish where you can't drop the lead, its running rigs only so this set up is perfect. Good tips and very well put across. BTW good to see your liking the nash gear. I'm a nash field tester there products are brilliant.
Hi mate, thanks as always for the support. Thanks to Brexit we decided to become a Nash reseller so that customers can buy good quality bait direct from us rather than having to smuggle it over lol. Much of my gear is at least 15 years old so I thought it was time for a refresh. I haven't regretted a single purchase thus far so keep up the good work!
Hi Paul, that’s a great question and not one that’s been asked before! During testing I used leads of 3-4 oz. You could probably make it work OK with 2.5oz leads but unless I’m doing something a bit different, 3oz is my starting weight. I need to do a video on lead sizes really. It’s on the list lol. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt, I tried it on the river today, unfortunately, it doesn't work there. Because other pieces of peeking fishing line only allow it to get tangled in the grass, bottom terrain, and fishing line. Maybe in your case, a pond where the water is still can probably work. Not on the river. Over the years I have found that there is magic in simplicity. And that's true. Between the plants in the river, the clams, the rocks, and the water current, it is necessary to keep the possibility of getting stuck on anything as little as possible.👍 Peter welfare. Eric
Hi Eric, thanks for the feedback. I don’t use this system on the river either. It was never designed for use in flowing water as there tends to be too many hazards as you say. I’m a big fan of keeping things simple as well (this is not a good example of that ethos lol.) All the best with your fishing, Matt.
Nice and creative! Would you threat on the lead directly on the tube if the the eye of the swivel was big enough so fit over the tail rubber instead of using the plastic ring?
Hi there, I’d always use the plastic ring because it provides extra safety but if the bottom was clean and snag free, then you don’t have to use the ring if you don’t want to.
Hi mate, no, absolutely not. There's no need to use a shock or abrasion leader just for the sake of it. I only use a leader when necessary. I use leaders when fishing low diameter mainlines for maximum range. I also use them for added abrasion resistance when fishing rough terrain such as rivers and weir pools. Most of the time I use 0.40 mono and at the business end it’s either 1m of tubing or 1m of leadless leader. Cheers, Matt.
Always been a massive fan of running rigs and a 2oz lead, used them everywhere, I used a shot 10" from the lead set up but no longer will from now on. An amazing rig Matthew, seen the other video too and makes sense losing a fish often. I'm going to always use this rig from now on friend. Q: Can you use an inline lead instead? Tight lines
Hi mate, okay cool. Yes, I’ve been using running leads (swivel and inline) for all my fishing for the last 14 years. You just can’t beat the effectiveness of the setup. One of my first YT videos used an inline lead to create a simple shock and run effect. The video is old but the rig still works and it will tell you all you need to know! Here’s the link: th-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=l114xj2k_VW8FZy7
Hi Sean, thanks for commenting mate. Glad that you like the rig, it's very very effective! This setup can be used without tubing no problem but personally I would always use tubing or more commonly a leadless leader. I used to fish naked when I used to use fluorocarbon mainline but nowadays I just don't bother. It never caught me more carp lol. Best of luck. Cheers, Matt.
Evening Matthew, great video, very useful. Please can i ask what the tubing is for? What would happen to the line if the Weight was allowed to run without the tubing?
The tubing as far as I am aware is for anti tangle purposes and also protects the fish from getting "mono burn"....loosing its scales and also getting injured from the line once its hooked.
Hi Gavin, thanks very much for commenting and I’m glad that you enjoyed the video. That’s a great question actually. Some anglers in some situations will choose to leave out the tubing completely. This is called fishing naked. Many commercial fisheries ban the method as there is a risk that the carp can be cut or damaged by the bare mainline. I have fished naked but after a while I decided it wasn't worth the risk to the carp and it wasn't catching me more so why bother. Rig tubing is also known as anti tangle tubing. I think anti tangle is a bit misleading really as certain rigs can tangle just as easily with or without tubing. For me, rig tubing is about protecting the carp but it’s also about protecting the last meter of line from rocks and branches and other hazards that are found on the lakes that I fish. I must admit that I often use a leadless leader as it follows the contours better than rig tubing. It’s just a personal preference really. Whenever I swap over to tubing I still catch carp. I’ll try and incorporate more on this subject into a future video so thanks for asking a great question! Cheers, Matt.
Hi Phillip, thanks for the support, much appreciated. I've been using the telltale trick for many years. It's really helped me to hone my approach and I'm sure you'll find it very useful. All the best, cheers, Matt.
Hi mate, unfortunately Nash no longer makes a run ring. They used to but it’s been discontinued. In this video I used a plastic run ring from a Fox run ring kit (comes with a buffer bead). I believe Bank Tackle makes a simple plastic run ring that is much cheaper and you don’t have to buy anything else other than the ring so do check them out. I’ve not tested it but it should work fine. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
Hi mate, thanks for commenting. In this video I was using the Nash no spook rig tubing. It’s not as heavy as tungsten tubing but it still sinks. I tank test all the products I use to make sure that they behave as intended. If you’re in any doubt then try it for yourself. Cheers, Matt.
Hi love your rig set up. Just wondered is it necessary to put the little clip in the lead clip? By leaving it out it at least allows the fish to only tow around the hook if it breaks mainline side of swivel in the lead clip. What are the benefits of locating the tiny clip?
Hi David, It’s safer to put the little fork piece in the lead clip to pin it to the swivel as on the take, you want the lead clip to move with the fish and pull out of the run ring. Watch my video on lead clips and you’ll see why having the lead clip run up the line can be dangerous: th-cam.com/video/a6WI6Y1o_Xk/w-d-xo.html When this is set up the way it’s designed, if the mainline breaks, the big ring flies over any chod or leaf matter very quickly. Yes, the fish is left with some hooklink and the clip body and a bit of mainline but the fish will get rid of it quickly without the weight of the lead, even quicker if you use barbless. Cheers, Matt
Hi mate, I’ve not tested the OMC system but it’s a copycat of the Fox Tadpole system. I’ve tested the Fox system and I'm not a fan because the sleeve does not fit snugly onto the swivel and on the take the sleeve just slides up the line with the lead which is absolutely not what I want to happen. All I can tell you for sure is that this arrangement worked well for me in testing and did exactly what I wanted it to do 👌
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and for your support. I always use tubing or a leadless leader to protect the fish's flanks and to save on line damage from rocks etc. I have tried fishing naked but on reflection for me there were no advantages in doing so. Cheers, Matt.
I was wondering how well this would work if your trying to thread braid mainline thrue your rig tubing ? As it's a lot less stif than mono line any tips !!.
Hi Paul, I wouldn't bother trying. When I use braided mainline I tie it directly to 10m of Nash Heavy Duty Mono Snag leader in either 30lbs (0.50) or 40lbs (0.60). Because the leader is very robust I don’t bother adding tubing. I fish that straight down to a clip of some sort. TBH nowadays I’ve moved away from braided mainlines as they are very expensive and come with a variety of downsides. For general carping I use 12lbs Nash Bullet, for heavy duty work I use 20lbs Bullet. I also use both of those in combination with an abrasion leader where necessary. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
Hi Fergus, thanks for commenting and for subscribing. I’m glad that you like the concept. I caught loads of carp on this setup this year so if you get everything else right, it will work for you I'm sure. Cheers, Matt.
Hallo Matthew, again a great video with a solution to avoid the leadclip problems i'am using already for years. I'am gonne try your rig setup this season. Normaly i'am using always a leadcore leader (gone switch to unlead). Can i use this material for your "shock and run" rig setup? Is there a reason why you use sometime a tube and other times a unlead core leader? Thnx
Hello Eric, thank you very much for the feedback. Yes, absolutely, you can use a lead free leader for this shock and run rig setup. Some waters ban lead free leaders so that's where I'd use rig tubing. Certain setups work well with either, some with leader but not with tubing and vice versa! So it really depends on the lake rules and the lead setup you use if that makes sense 😊 Really good question! Cheers, Matt
Hi Mark, I’ve not tried it with zigs but this lead setup would work very well for zigs. The thing to watch for though is weed. Zigs work well in clear water and clear water tends to be weedy. It doesn't take much weed to jam a lead solid so it’s often better to dump the lead on the take when zigging. I hate losing leads but sometimes it's the only way. Cheers, Matt.
Gonna give this a go but don’t you think the tell tale Would be better left from attaching the main line and coming out from between the clip and the tail rubber. As I think tied to the swivel as you did wound stop it from rotating what you think?
Hi Shaun, thanks for commenting. Sure you can do it in various ways, TBH as long as I was using a ring swivel to connect the hooklink, it wouldn't bother me so personal preference mate. Cheers, Matt.
Hi mate, I always cast to the clip to stop the lead in flight before it hits the water. This prevents the lead from pulling the ring off the sleeve on impact with the water. If you are fishing at max range and hitting the clip isn't possible then it’s probably better to use a traditional lead clip. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matthew I have found that the Vardis heavy duty lead clip downfall system is ideal as the system breaks down and can be made back to a lead clip system. So no need to cut anything off. Please have a look and let me know what you think. 👍🎣
Hi Jim, thanks for commenting. Not seen (or heard) of this one but I've just looked it up and I see what you mean! I'll add it to my list of bits to test, thanks 👍 Cheers, Matt.
✅ Here’s my 2024 ‘shock and run’ design: th-cam.com/video/H733RZER094/w-d-xo.html
I've just recently picked up carp fishing again after a 25 year break. In the 1980s we never had these complex rigs so this is all stuff I need to learn. Your videos are fantastic for this, clear and easy to understand. I'm definitely subscribing.
Hi Richard, thanks very much for commenting and for subscribing. I started in the early 80s myself. All I used was two grains of side hooked corn and an open ended feeder. I was away from fishing for ten years (I skipped the 90s) and when I returned I didn't recognise the sport I knew so I had to start from zero. It’s been a long road lol. I started this channel because I got lucky. I met guys that cut through the crap and helped me to understand what actually matters. Bit by bit I’m trying to share this with a wider audience and save anglers time and money while being more successful at this wonderful but complicated sport. Cheers, Matt.
Your presentation leaves no stone unturned. A lot of other vids miss out crucial parts and expect the novice angler to somehow fill in the blanks.Even as an experienced angler I enjoy how you calmly go about explaining not just how, but why you do what you do.
Keep up the great work!!
Hi mate, thanks very much for the awesome feedback. We really do appreciate it. I’ve been coaching anglers at Beausoleil for many years now so I understand that the “why” is just as important as the “how” and let’s not forget the “when!” It’s really cool to get such support from anglers of all abilities. I’ve always believed that you are never too old to learn. I’m still learning every day! All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
Clear,precise and informative as always Matt.
My “go to” TH-camr for carp fishing. Really appreciate you taking the time to produce these videos for us.
It's great to hear the feedback Darren, thank you. It's really nice to know these videos are helping out. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matthew, My name is Leo and I'm from the Netherlands and you are one of the few English speakers who speak calmly and well articulated so that I can understand it too. I want to make a big complement for your clear explanation. thanks.
Hi Leo, well, I am really happy to hear this, thank you. I know we have a big international audience so I'm super pleased that you can follow and enjoy my videos 😊
Absolutely brilliant video, Hand on heart yes I was one of these idiots that pushed the tail rubber home .
I didn’t understand but you have opened my eyes,I now have invested in the vital terminal tackle and set my rigs as discussed.
Yep works a treat every time .
Recently I have recovered other peoples tackle and on examination their are more and more people not understanding the simple and safe rig system!
Thanks very much..
Hi Andy, thanks for taking the time to comment and share your experiences. I reckon I made every mistake in the book when learning this game so don’t beat yourself, it’s a complicated sport! Glad that you’ve got yourself the right bits to make this rig and that you are happy with it. Our guests last week used this one and after a day with me they smashed their PB’s out of the park on this lead setup. Enjoy! Matt.
I think this is one of the best setups I've seen until now. I will convert my rigs to this system. Thank you!
Hi mate, thanks very much for commenting. I’m glad you like the rig. I can promise you that it is very very effective in a wide range of fishing situations. Cheers, Matt.
Brilliant as always Matt. The first time I tried this rig I caught a gnarly old fish, half a pound short of thirty - a new PB for me for the lake. One thing I am now doing is using a Korda Hybrid Lead Clip - the one with the integral ring swivel and connection loop, so no need for a seperate ring swivel and peg like the Nash system. The Korda clip has serrations on the shank and grips the tail rubber a treat. Saves fiddling about aligning swivel eyes and scratching around for the peg which has dropped in the grass and got itself lost!!
Hello sir, nice to hear from you and thanks for sharing. I’ve not been fishing with this setup much of late as I’m testing a new running clip that will make this system redundant but good to know that you’ve found a better way of doing it. All the best, Matt.
Brilliant content Matt, really interest in the new run clip you’re testing. Look forward to the video!
@@spudmurphy3186 Cheers mate, yeah it’s a very exciting product and I’ve got a few special tweaks to add to it 😉Can’t say more as it’s not released until next Jan but we are hoping to do a video soon so it’s ready to go live when the product is released. I can give you a sneak peek though. Don’t blink or you’ll miss it lol: th-cam.com/video/d7TJuAt5hkk/w-d-xo.html
Cheers, Matt.
I'm glad someone has put a video out explaining this as I see it being done wrong all the time. So many people have no clue they are basically fishing a tether rig unwittingly.
Hi John, thanks very much for commenting. I'm glad that you see the value to this video. It's not deliberate malice on the anglers’ part, it's just that not every angler fully understands the implications of what they are doing. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
This is a brilliant tip! I've been fishing from a young age on and off and have just bought my first proper 3 rod carp setup. One thing that I was concerned about was losing leads after every take. As it could become very costly. I will for sure be using this setup now. To start my carp fishing journey. This a accompanied along with a pop up hook with a PVA sleeved filled with 3-4 boiles. Should be very effective rig I'm thinking. I'm super excited to get on the bank and give it a try! Thanks buddy for all your help and inspiration!
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and for the support! Much appreciated. Not sure what you mean by a popup hook lol. My favourite go-to hook is the Nash Chod Twister. You can use it with most rig materials. If you haven't watched my mono hair rig video then do have a watch. It works very well with the shock & run rig and mono is cheap. Here’s the link: th-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/w-d-xo.html Cheers, Matt.
This semi-fixed rig avoids dropping the lead or the carp using the lead inertia, but to me the primary reason to use the rig was it really improves bite detection. Assuming the mechanic works of course.
Whether the line is straight, tight, bowed or slack, pinned down by a back lead, when the carp frees the line from the lead, even if it is moving towards the rod, the line reels out.
I fish natural fish in rivers only, and that's good both to not leave a lead in the water and to not loose too many fish.
Downside of the rig is the bottom has to be clean enough, and the lead has to be heavy enough. Doesn't work in the middle of weeds or buried into silt.
I make this rig with a Fox Tadpole insert, cut in half, and the swivel is simply inserted into the tadpole.
I really like your channel.
Thanks for the video.
Thank you for the feedback. I have a new version of this setup and the video will be out soon.
I recently subbed here a few weeks ago and Ive learnt more here than on any other channel thank you Matthew.
Hi mate, thanks very much for your support. It really means a lot to us that you are getting so much from our work. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt hope you're well.I went fishing this week to a members only lake it was a hard couple of days .out of thirteen angler's only three caught anything.I had two carp on your shock and run rig.
I was fishing on two gravel spots and one to a far marginal shelf.
On the second day I noticed carp showing in the middle of nowhere with no real features on silt.
So I put a couple of the showing fish, free casting no marking up or leading around so as not to make much disturbance.small leads shock and run set up.thats what did the business ,I'm really getting some good results.cheers Matt keep the tips coming.
Hi Darren, that’s great to hear and and well done of bagging two when everyone was struggling. I did a little experiment with helicopter rigs on some hard spots at the weekend and I got done 4 times in 24rs. I did catch one but that’s not a good ratio lol. The shock and run gives you the best of both worlds and the lead system tells you if you’ve been done which is so important. I’m still experimenting with pure running rigs and I do like them a lot. The trouble is that if your hooks aren't up to snuff then you’ll still get done all day long. More videos on the way so keep testing and letting us know how we are doing. Very best regards, Matt.
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Hi cheers Matt.Be interested to see your next video.Good luck
Just an Internal rubber from an inline lead also with some PVA tape, saves butchering lead clips, or just don't put the peg through the swivel.. one thing I've found using similar is it can cause a fair bit of mainline line twist when reeling in, due to the angle the lead kicks off the swivel at, blistering takes though.
That's another option mate 👍
you should check this out: Pole Position CS Safety Lead Clip
This is also safe with a line break because only the rig will be left and has the same properties as this system
Thanks very much, I've heard of this system.
Your videos are just brilliant Matthew and are a great help to me, just starting up again at the age of 62 :))
Thank you very much, that's fantastic to hear! Glad to be part of your journey. Cheers, Matt
Excellent video, very easy to understand. I will never use a lead again, inline is a lot safer. Knowing there's a chance, a lead clip can be set up wrong, makes me not use them. Fish safety is the number 1 priority for me.
Simple and effective. Thanks you for sharing. I had this exact same problem , always lost the lead while playing the fish. It was killing my pocket. Great video.
Hi mate, thanks very much for the feedback. Really glad that you liked it, yeah, there are benefits not just for your wallet but for the water quality as well. IMO it’s just not necessary to dump the lead most of the time. Have a great season. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thank you so much. I wish you as well a great season.
We learn something new every day and another great lesson. Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱
Thank you very much 😊
The first few minutes was a god send i've struggled like mad trying to thread mainline though tubing for ages now i was going to ask about it but i've now seen how to make it easier thank you. great video have been working my way through them as they are the best informative videos on how to do different set ups
Hi Tony, we made a dedicated video on how to thread tubing easily a few years ago as it’s something I know many struggle with. Here’s the link if it helps: th-cam.com/video/MT40tS32yWM/w-d-xo.html Cheers, Matt.
Wow 5 star Matthew, been fishing lead clip for since they came out but I shall be changing my set up to running rigs. never seen a safer rig in my opinion
Hi Terence, thanks for the feedback and I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’ve been fishing running rigs for years, don’t see the point in fishing anything else 90% of the time. If you’re interested, there are a few running rig videos on the channel. Enjoy, Matt.
Today I got the Nash bits to make the running rig you showed, I will try to put together the rig tomorrow.
Excellent explanation of tying rig and rig function & mechanics - am going to try this
Hi Frank, thanks very much for commenting and I’m glad that you liked the video. All the best with it. Cheers, Matt.
Thanks for making your rigmaking look so easy
Plenty of practice 😊
Mathew, I am glad I came across your posts! There is no way I would have understood better these rigs had I not watched. New to this having bought weight clips and no instructions I was completely in the dark as to what they were supposed to do! I now better understand thank you. Where I fish (in a canal marina basin) there is a huge problem with weed ! I am trying long pop up rig to get on the top of the weed bed ? Not sure if that’s correct. Also I realised that any carp in there (which there is) are not accustomed to boillies. So next time after correcting my rig I think I use pop up plus sweet corn ?thanks again
Hi Chris, glad you're enjoying the channel! I’ve never fished a marina basin for carp but I do fish for river carp and I use boilies (lots of them!). Even carp that don’t know what a boilie is will recognise it as food and eat it. I use a high attract bait like the Nash Candy Nut Crush. Prebaiting in advance is essential to hold them in an area. Personally I wouldn't use a long popup rig, I just use bottom baits and fish them on the bottom. If there’s some weed about I cast around and look for clear, polished areas to present my rigs onto. Regular pre-baiting will clear any weed that’s about anyway. Particles are quite useful for this because it’s cheap and the carp will demolish an area as they search out every last grain. Hope that helps, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler many thanks for your reply, yes we suffer extreme weed growth in there. That’s interesting I take from that, Carp or maybe Tench will clear weed from well baited areas. Presently the weed is on the growth again already around two foot deep and by late summer it’s pretty much near surface from 5 feet thick and above ! I think I may invest in a rake this year!
@@chrisg5271 Yes raking spots and regular feeding with particles is a great method for cleaning spots. Any fish in the area will help with the work. I’ve just watched a great little Nash video with Hassan Kahn on fishing in weed and he uses flake as it sits over and in the weed rather than sinking through it. I’m a fan of the Nash flake myself and I can definitely see it being very effective for fishing in or over weed. Here’s the link: th-cam.com/video/1-b3QbEwhDk/w-d-xo.html
For me this is the perfect blend of safety and effectiveness, going straight into my armoury.
I've spent a lot of time on developing rigs and set ups that are first and foremost safe, but secondly don't compromise when it comes to landing fish and this has the lot.
I've used the tungsten version of the clips/tail rubbers and added a c clip between the run ring and quick link just in case of a lead jam up but otherwise identical to yours and it works just how I hoped it would.
Thanks for the excellent video 👍
Hi Scott, thanks very much for commenting and for your support. I presume by C-clip you mean the ones that break at a specified force? I found the Fox run rings break at a 10lbs of pull and I’ve not had the chance to test the C-clips you mention. The other way to do it is to use the rotten bottom method with some light mono. I haven't covered this subject yet but it’s definitely an option. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
You presume right Matthew, the ones I use are called Gardner drop out chod safety clips.
They come in 2 strengths and break at either 3lb or 6lb depending on the size but I found when they're encased in silicon sleeve they take just a little more force.
Maybe overkill considering the run ring breaks at 10lb but I do like a belt and braces approach.
I've used them on helicopter set ups when not fishing to drop the lead and they work really well to release the lead if needed.
Basically a packet of 'rotten bottoms' ready to go 😁
@@scottwheeler7615 Thanks, good to know for those that like a readymade solution 👍
I never use blood knots.
Palomar for the swivel
Thank you for sharing this system I have a question Can you fish with this lead system also 4 meters from the shore
Hi, glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, you can use it at any range.
Mathew you're channel is a breath of fresh air, very informative clear etc, others are just based on selling you things ( ok I understand that part) but education is the key - to know why when where with fish care in mind- a carp that has been traumatised- hurt- damaged whatever is now far harder to catch, me personally I like to look at my pic catches knowing it was placed back after just as it was when I hooked it ( yes I've had a scale lift even with tubing once it happens sadly) but with so many people now joining the carping community education really is key 🎣
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Hi Lee, thanks for your support mate. I’m delighted that you get what we do. Carp fishing is a complicated and confusing sport. It’s a never ending learning experience and that’s what makes it very dear to my heart. I do what I do because I love it. The harsh reality of this sport is that carp can come to harm as a result of our actions. As long as I’m doing everything I can to minimize risk and damage then I’m okay with that. Over many years I’ve watched carp grow and develop under my care and that’s a special thing. Carp are robust creatures but they are not indestructible and they do not live forever. Cheers, Matt.
I watched this a while ago, but the idea of it stuck with me. I tried it this weekend and it works perfectly as you said. 2 runs and 2 fish on the bank. I think I’ll be fishing my lead clip like this from now on.
Hi mate, thanks for commenting. I’m glad that you tried the rig and it worked perfectly for you 👍 Cheers, Matt.
Superb rig! very clear instructions on how to build and why it works. Cheers Matt :-)
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and for your support. It really means a lot to us. Cheers, Matt.
Thanks again for your guidance in Carp Fishing..please keep these videos coming!
No worries mate. Don’t worry, plenty more videos in the pipeline and if there’s something you’d like to see then just let me know and we’ll see what we can do. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matthew, I watch your videos at all times, you demonstrate everything in great detail, I look forward to watching more of
the wonderful videos you present. All the best Ernie.
Thank you very much Ernie 😊
I'm learning so much from your videos, straight forward full explanation and demonstration of your rig set up, thanks .
I'll be using your inline lead system on a gravel venue here in the UK, 🙂🙂
Hi mate, that’s great to hear, thanks for the feedback and really glad to be helping you on your journey. Let me know how you get on 👍. Cheers, Matt.
Excellent video Matt. I find if you leave a 5mm gap between the line sinker and tubing, the tubing lays nice and flat, otherwise I personally find the tubing kinks and rises off the deck.
enjoyed this Matt gives you some extra options can see this being a great rig
Cheers mate, I've had some great feedback on it.
Hi matt, when tying the knotless knot how many turns is acceptable as you only did about 4 so the hook stop fitted neatly, thanks
Hi Geoff, good question 😊 It depends on the hook size, the diameter of the mono and exactly where I want the hair to exit. If you watch my mono hair rig video: th-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/w-d-xo.html you’ll see that with a size 6 Chod Twister and 0.40 mono, I use 7 turns before adding the bead and I like the way it sits. When using 0.30 mono and a size 8 chod twister I change that number to 9. It’s all very subjective of course. I just look at it and decide whether I like it or not really. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks matt
Hi Matt from the U.S.A.! I have been fishing European style here in the U.S. for roughly 6 years. Once I started, many have helped along the way. Here, we do not have pressured fish, at least I don't think we do. Smaller lakes like there, are not places us wildwater anglers will fish. I have also been into understanding rigs, and find ways to not dump leads everytime. This setup looks like something we can use here. I do fish around snags, so have gone to a setup to where I dump leads if need be. I have found I do lose fish fishing regular lead clips. Not sure at this point what is best. I just hate to think a fish is tethered up and could die. This setup looks good but not around snags, as you mentioned. Thanks for another great video and explanation. Great job! If you can think of a way to fish snags and be able to dump leads, but not necessarily have to every time, that would be great.
Hi Richard, thanks very much for taking the time to comment and for your support. It’s great to know that our work has helped you catch more carp! So I have a couple of ideas for you. The plastic run ring that I use is made by Fox. I did some basic pull tests on it and the ring fails at approximately 10lbs of load so a large powerful fish could probably snap one without much bother. These are probably difficult if not impossible for you to get hold of but there is another option. You could use a ring swivel or a big eyed swivel to run on the mainline instead to form a run ring. Rather than use a quick link to connect the lead directly to the run ring, you could create what sea anglers over here would call “ a rotten bottom”. All you need is a short length of weak mono and simply tie the lead to the run ring with this. I’ve used this system myself when river carp fishing using running leads. There are plenty of rocks in the river and if the lead gets stuck it’s very easy to pull for a break. OK I lose the lead but I get the rest of the setup back. With a little experimentation it’s easy to create rotten bottoms of varying strengths for various situations. The aim is to make the connection as weak as possible so that it’s easy for the carp to break free but at the same time be strong enough to cast the lead far enough so that you don’t break off on the cast. It’s perfect for short range lobs of heavy leads on the river near me. It could also be used with lighter leads at range but there would be limits to how far such a system could be cast. Not an issue if you're using a boat of course. Hope that gives you some food for thought. Do let me know how you get on. Cheers, Matt.
Also, if you fish barbless hooks, it makes any setup extra safe because the carp can more easily get rid of the hook.
@@matthewcollinsangler, awesome. Sounds good, I have a mate here who probably knows what you are talking about. The places we fish are 50 - 100k surface area reservoirs. He and I search out the weed, timber, etc to fish. I am sure between this and his knowledge, will be able to get me sorted out. Thank you for respond and again, great videos. Cheers!
@@matthewcollinsangler, I have some Solar Run Rig Kits. I also use the Avid Lead Clips that do not have the pins. I figured out a modification based on components I have on hand. The.rig works exactly as you describe, Telltale and all. Thanks again. Cheers.
@@t3angling575 OK great, yes those bits sound like they’d work together. Best of luck. Cheers, Matt.
Hay dude. Ive been using this system since 2021 and can safely safe its gotten me so many fish. 👍🙂
Fantastic to hear 👏
Matt
Another great video with very clear instructions from start to finish installation it the line through the tube was great. As how we can use our lead clips safety. And when to use the rig
Your videos just get better and better. From close ups to sound 5*
Hi Michael, thanks again for the awesome feedback. We really do appreciate your support! We are always trying to do better. More videos on the way! Cheers, Matt.
Been doing same for 30 years with an inline lead with the insert removed and filed out and pushed onto a tail rubber works exactly the same. My go to rig. And I just use rod lead straps....Great video again tho
Hi mate, thanks for the feedback. I’ve also been fishing with an inline system exactly as you describe for many years and it’s worked really well. I’m sure you’ve done very well on it. I’ve never bothered with rod lead straps myself but it’s a good option if you like to take your rods ready tackled up. The only downside with inline rigs is that they aren't suitable for every fishing situation, they certainly don’t play nicely with mono hooklink IMO, that’s why I came up with a swivel based system. Cheers, Matt.
You keep surprising me Matt, this is absolutely brilliant. Greetings.
Thank you very much Mariusz! I'll try and keep it up 😉
I love your videos !!! you’re doing a really good job❤
To me, your channel is number one in the carp fishing community!!
You fill me with confidence in fishing for carp !!!
Thank you for all your great advice and knowledge!!!
That’s wonderful to hear!! Thank you 😊
Hi great videos I am watching and learning loads from these videos,
Could you use the rotten bottom technique with this system and then use it for weedier areas?
Glad you’re enjoying the videos! Absolutely no problem mate, just tune the rotten bottom to the area you’re fishing to get it to work consistently. If the weed’s very thick, you need to dump the lead anyway so you’d need to fish a lead clip or similar.
Hi Mathew, great lead set up used it myself years ago , little added thing ive done in past if using pva bag or funnel web tie a small piece of pva tape around lead clip for long casts just to make sure that the run ring doesn't dis lodge it works a treat and still completely safe.
Regards Lee
Hi Lee, good to know that it's been working well for you too. Yes, on a big cast a little PVA tape can really help hold things together. Same goes for a medium chuck with a larger solid PVA bag for when you are fishing parachute bag style. Have a great season. Cheers, Matt.
First time having to use rig tubing and thank you very much for the lead/tail rubber tip! Dont think id have managed it otherwise 🙂
Thanks Lee, that's great to hear! Glad it's helped you out.
this is genius Matt. i wonder how this was not picked up and copied by big tackle companies yet 🙂
on other notes, i never understood the need for that overcomplicated leadclip with the pin. the normal one does just as a good job in my opinion.
Hi mate, thanks for the support and I’m glad that you like it. I’ve actually been testing a new product which will make this little creation redundant but it’s not been released yet so I can’t say too much about it. It’s going to be a game changer though. If you’d like a sneak peak watch this: th-cam.com/video/d7TJuAt5hkk/w-d-xo.html Don’t blink or you’ll miss it! We’ll be doing a video all about it once it’s been launched. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thats fantastic, wish you all the best with it 👌
Great channel and great videos!
Just getting into carp fishing and I’ll definitely be using this set up... 🎣🐟
Hi mate, thanks very much for commenting and for your support. Glad you're getting a lot from the channel! Enjoy the journey 😊 Cheers, Matt.
This man should be known as Matt "The Scientist" Collins.
haha glad you like my experiments!
I am definitely going to try this method. Great video again Matt 👍🏻
Thanks very much Danny. It's a neat little system and it really should help you convert more bites into screaming runs. Lead systems like these have been the go-to approach here for our guests for the last 10 years and everyone swears by them.
Truly a master of rigs Matt,, nice one mate this will be getting some use from me 👍👍👍👍
Thanks very much David! All the best with it mate 👍
@@matthewcollinsangler cheers mate 👍
hi matt. would this idea of the small sinker at the end of the tubing work with a heli set up? regards graham
Hi Graham, I have been having a think about the implications of doing this and I am not really sure about it. The problem is the elasticity of mono. Under a small amount of tension, a gap appears between the sinker and the tubing. This isn't a big issue when you have a large plastic ring that needs to safely ride over it but a helicopter rig requires a swivel on the mainline. I could see the swivel catching on the sinker and dragging it up the line. During this time there's a greater risk of things getting snarled up with debris etc. Personally I wouldn't use a sinker above the tubing with a Heli setup. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks for the reply sir. If only someone would come with tubing moulded to a tail rubber/buffer!
@@grahamrg Yeah for sure! I believe that Korda has just released a tubing based heli system. It has a special little plug that securely attaches the tubing to the buffer bead. It’s all good in theory of course but in my experience tungsten tubing is notorious for cracking and splitting into shorter lengths. If this happens you are relying on the tubing to slide safely up the line and off. If you watch my lead clip video you’ll see that in reality this doesn’t happen because it takes so little for the tubing to jam. IMO the only safe way to fish a tubing based heli system is to fish it as a pure running system without a top bead. If you do need to hold it temporarily in place then I’d just use some PVA tape. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
Awesome rig Matt mate
Thanks very much mate, all the best with it!
Neat concept on the running rig tail rubber idea, well thought thru. I'll be giving this a go, thanks.
One question on rig tubing. I've never used it. I tend to use lead core or more recently just a naked sinking line. What are the advantages of rig tubing do you use it in every situation?
Hi mate, thanks for commenting. I’m glad that you like the rig.
Lots of fisheries (including ours) will insist on the use of rig tubing and that's because it helps protect the carp's flanks during the fight. A bare line can cut into the flesh or lift a scale if they roll on the line. It also helps to protect the last bit of line from damage on rocks etc. I used to use leadcore myself but the lead core can become kinked which can be dangerous on a running lead system. Nowadays I use leadless leader material such as the Nash Cling-on. I carry both the 40lb and the 65lb version depending on the situation. Cling-on sinks well and is super supple so will flow over any rocks or stones better than rig tubing. It’s also fish friendly camouflaged and very abrasion resistant so for me it’s the best all round solution and certainly better than a bare naked setup. Hope that helps, cheers, Matt.
Hi Matthew, great video. Can't beat running rigs.
Hi Stuart, thanks for the support mate. Much appreciated. Always good to meet a fellow running rig fan. Cheers, Matt
Hi Matt, another brilliant video from you. I do love your cool & collected way of presenting your videos, you make them so easy to understand & I will definitely be trying this set up in the near future. thank you & keep up the good work.
Hi Lawrence, thanks very much for the support 🙏 It’s a great little setup this and a great way to know if the carp are pulling your chain lol. More videos in the pipeline 👍 Cheers, Matt.
Hi . Great tips. Can rig tube be used again once removed from the mainline ? Or is it a throw away thing ?
Hi Lewis, the simple answer is no, once you take tubing off the mainline it is very hard to re-thread. There are ways to ensure that you don’t ever have to take the tubing off though. Even using inline leads etc. All I do is tie an overhand knot in the mainline and this stops the tubing sliding off. You can even wind the line back on the spool with the tubing and place a long tag end of the mainline in the line clip to stop it coming unravelled. I made a video all about rig tubing so you might find some useful tips here: th-cam.com/video/MT40tS32yWM/w-d-xo.html
Best of luck, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Hi Matt. Thanks for replying .
I don't own a rod bag just yet, so knowing I can wrap it around the spool is good to know.
I hate wasting thing's.
This is a great channel, and I've learnt loads .
Thank you .
@@lewis3427 That’s fantastic to hear mate. Thanks for choosing us to be your virtual carp fishing guide. If there’s anything that you’d like to see that we haven't covered yet then do let us know. Cheers, Matt.
Clever stuff! 👌🏼 Good explanations too.
Another good watch but is it possible to use less rig tubing ?
Hi Paul, yes sure, you can use however much you feel you need. I use 1m because we have big 100lbs + catfish. I actually prefer to use Cling-on lead free leader as it hugs the bottom better but tubing works if rules dictate its use. Cheers, Matt.
Thanks Matt top tips as always will be giving this rig a try on my next trip
Hi Chris, thanks for the feedback! Cracking little rig this. Just couple it with a sharp hook and one of my other rigs… job done!
Hi Matt! Wicked info as always. How is this setup performs for long distance casting/power casting? Found the traditional run rig and tube combo a bit weird to cast. Thanks 🙏
Hi mate, glad that you like the setup. I know exactly what you mean. Pure running rigs can be cast at range but you have to use a really small bait and never add any PVA. To set this up for long range with larger baits and/or a bit of PVA mesh, you need to make sure that the swivel is pushed hard onto the tail rubber so it stays in place on a big chuck. If you get that bit right it works great 😉
@@matthewcollinsangler awesome, cheers Matt.
Definitely going to try this one matt.Top class and thanks for great info 👏👌
Hi Shaun, thanks again for the great feedback. It spurs us on to do more and do them better! Do let me know how you get on. Cheers, Matt.
Excellent again Matt no bull just a brilliant rig explained.
Thanks Michael, much appreciated. Cheers, Matt.
This is the best rig set up I have ever seen and have switched most of my rods to this. Thanks Matt. Did you try the Korum product yet?
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and that's awesome to hear! I haven't been able to get hold of the Korum product yet but I'm sure I’ll get around to testing it at some point. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler I am now using the Nash run lead clips after your vid on those - just wanted to ask - do you think they have now superseded this set up or is there a case where you would still use this over the Nash clips?
@@videoondemand-livecircuitt2689 Hi mate, that’s a good question. TBH it’s going to depend on the nature of the venue you are fishing. If it’s weedy and or snaggy then I’d go for the Nash system as the lead will pop off when you need it to. However if I was fishing a runs water which was snag free then the Nash run clip will probably dump too many leads as the takes can be savage on this type of water. If that’s the case I’d use this or just a basic running rig. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
Absolutely love this set up matt just 1 question. Can you use any rig as I see you used the mono rig. And I haven't perfected that yet
Yes mate, you can use any rig 👍
Hi Matt.once again. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. What’s best,this rig or the running rig.last month. Thanks.
Hi Mark, thanks for your support. Personal choice really. The simple running rig is great for short to medium range work but if you are trying to cast as far as you can and not hit the clip then I’d prefer the shock and run system. The shock and run will work at any distance and is also better if you’re fishing with a PVA stick of crumb so although it’s a bit more technical it’s more universal in that sense. At the business end I’ve been coupling the shock and run with my mono hair rig and my mono ‘D rig. I’ve also been testing a supple braid multi rig with this. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
Absolutely love the in depth explanation on the mechanics and safety of the rig. Just seems so much more logical than the standard lead clip. Did you invent this method yourself?
Hi Tim, thanks very much for the awesome feedback. We really do appreciate it. I came up with this system last winter. I was just tinkering with some rig bits in the bivvy and I got the idea to combine a few bits that are never usually combined. For me, the mechanics aren't really that new. It’s basically a variation of a rig theme that I’ve been using for 12+ years. If you watch my original inline running rig video you’ll see a lot of similarities in the methodology: th-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/w-d-xo.html This version brings various advantages over an inline system. Swivel leads are easier to cast further and you can change sizes and style quickly so there are lots of pluses. Someone else commented that they’ve been doing it too so I’m not the first! There are a couple of similar ready made systems on the market but I haven’t tested them yet. I do hope that you try the rig. Let me know how it goes. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Hi Matthew. I have used this set up a few times now since last commenting. It is very easy to set up (thanks to your video) and use, and i have to good effect landing both carp and catfish. Thankyou 👍
@@timsmith9541 Hi Tim, thanks very much for the update and I'm delighted that you are getting on well with the rig for both species 😊
Great video as always Matt, very informative, I'll be giving it a go 👍
Hi Tony, thanks for the support as always. Yeah great little rig this. A proper edge! Cheers, Matt.
Nice job, ecplicitly explained how to do it. Thanks Mathew
Great to hear, thanks very much!
This video was nice! I also like inlines and lead clips with the diameter of the swiwel, so the first "shock" is gained and they also turn into a running rig in a second. Should be added that in these cases the anti tangle also slides away with the lead so this could be a disadvantage.
I understand why you're doing this because it's promoted by certain anglers but this is not a great idea really IMO, I explain why in this video: th-cam.com/video/a6WI6Y1o_Xk/w-d-xo.html
@@matthewcollinsangler Excuse me Sir! I do it beacause I decided to do so and not because it is "promoted". I refuse following trends and fishing based on others promotions. No offense I just wanted to make it clear.
@@progress92 Got it, I think my response came out wrong! All the best in your fishing 😊
Hi matt, normal hair rig and the German rig in what situations do you use them both, and are both rigs OK with mono?
Thanks Geoff
Hi Geoff, I’ve never used the German rig so I can’t comment I’m afraid. The mono hair rig can be used in just about any carp fishing situation. I tend to use it when fishing at range on public waters due to its anti tangle properties and the way in which it resists the attentions of nuisance species. At my own lake I tend to use my little mono D-rig because I’m fishing over large beds of small pellets and the mono D lends itself to being used with small 15mm baits. Hope that gives you food for thought. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks matt great videos and also answering questions raised, thank you
Really great video as always. I'm new to carp fishing and you are helping me a lot. So, I really like to get into the small detail when fishing and i was wondering what exactly does the lead clip do in this rig? Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to tie this rig without the lead clip? just push the tailrubber over a size 8 swivel. Should have the same effect.
Beste regards.
Hi mate, thanks for the feedback and glad to be part of your journey. I have tried the tail rubber only option but it just doesn't work anywhere near as well as this setup does. The lead tends to hang and take too many shakes before it slides away. This gives Mr. carp too many opportunities to shake the rig out. The other problem is that the tail rubber easily becomes disconnected from the swivel and that can easily create a dangerous rig. That’s why I recommend the combination of materials in the video. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Thank you really much Matthew
Your innovative and clever ideas have enhanced my carp fishing in a more productive and safe way. I think you need to design your own product range Matt your methodology is unique.
Hi Jordan, wow, well firstly thanks very much for taking the time and trouble to comment and for giving us such positive feedback. What you’re describing is exactly what we aim to achieve. My first proper job was as a design engineer of plastic products so I guess that part of me is still there. It's just been buried for a while! It's just awesome to know that we have positively influenced the way you fish for carp. Cheers, Matt.
Can i use it straight on 0.50mm mono shockleader instead of tubing?
Yes mate, as long as you use the other bits that I show in the video, 0.50 or even 0.60 leader naked will work. Here's an alternative where I fish a leader straight down to a Nash heli sleeve, no shock effect but it works very well: th-cam.com/video/NzmQgIiwFI0/w-d-xo.html
Hi matt, this video is perfect timing my members lake now has another lake I can fish where you can't drop the lead, its running rigs only so this set up is perfect. Good tips and very well put across. BTW good to see your liking the nash gear. I'm a nash field tester there products are brilliant.
Hi mate, thanks as always for the support. Thanks to Brexit we decided to become a Nash reseller so that customers can buy good quality bait direct from us rather than having to smuggle it over lol. Much of my gear is at least 15 years old so I thought it was time for a refresh. I haven't regretted a single purchase thus far so keep up the good work!
@@matthewcollinsangler
Thanks pal. That's great makes it a lot easier for customers to get bait once at your lake. I've used scopex squid for years
It's a quality bait for sure. Really impressed :)
Feel free to share the video and do look me up on social media. I'd like to follow your progress!
@@matthewcollinsangler
Hi pal yes I always share your video's
With my pals. It's refreshing to watch
Your channel, no BS lol
Hi Matt, apologies if this has been asked already but is there a minimum weight of lead that you would use with the set up? Thanks, Paul
Hi Paul, that’s a great question and not one that’s been asked before! During testing I used leads of 3-4 oz. You could probably make it work OK with 2.5oz leads but unless I’m doing something a bit different, 3oz is my starting weight. I need to do a video on lead sizes really. It’s on the list lol. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Thanks Matt, continue the great work
Watch you al the time , top man I understand
Thanks very much Malcolm 👍
Hi Matt, I tried it on the river today, unfortunately, it doesn't work there. Because other pieces of peeking fishing line only allow it to get tangled in the grass, bottom terrain, and fishing line.
Maybe in your case, a pond where the water is still can probably work. Not on the river. Over the years I have found that there is magic in simplicity. And that's true. Between the plants in the river, the clams, the rocks, and the water current, it is necessary to keep the possibility of getting stuck on anything as little as possible.👍 Peter welfare. Eric
Hi Eric, thanks for the feedback. I don’t use this system on the river either. It was never designed for use in flowing water as there tends to be too many hazards as you say. I’m a big fan of keeping things simple as well (this is not a good example of that ethos lol.) All the best with your fishing, Matt.
Nice and creative! Would you threat on the lead directly on the tube if the the eye of the swivel was big enough so fit over the tail rubber instead of using the plastic ring?
Hi there, I’d always use the plastic ring because it provides extra safety but if the bottom was clean and snag free, then you don’t have to use the ring if you don’t want to.
Hello Matthew, it's necessary to use chock leaders or not? Thanks 😊
Hi mate, no, absolutely not. There's no need to use a shock or abrasion leader just for the sake of it. I only use a leader when necessary. I use leaders when fishing low diameter mainlines for maximum range. I also use them for added abrasion resistance when fishing rough terrain such as rivers and weir pools. Most of the time I use 0.40 mono and at the business end it’s either 1m of tubing or 1m of leadless leader. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler That's what I do to be honest, just want to double check with you. Thank you so much 😉
@@egidijusgruzinskas5151 No problem 👍
Always been a massive fan of running rigs and a 2oz lead, used them everywhere, I used a shot 10" from the lead set up but no longer will from now on. An amazing rig Matthew, seen the other video too and makes sense losing a fish often. I'm going to always use this rig from now on friend. Q: Can you use an inline lead instead? Tight lines
Hi mate, okay cool. Yes, I’ve been using running leads (swivel and inline) for all my fishing for the last 14 years. You just can’t beat the effectiveness of the setup. One of my first YT videos used an inline lead to create a simple shock and run effect. The video is old but the rig still works and it will tell you all you need to know! Here’s the link: th-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=l114xj2k_VW8FZy7
Thanks mate fantastic ..can it be used without the tubing?
Hi Sean, thanks for commenting mate. Glad that you like the rig, it's very very effective! This setup can be used without tubing no problem but personally I would always use tubing or more commonly a leadless leader. I used to fish naked when I used to use fluorocarbon mainline but nowadays I just don't bother. It never caught me more carp lol. Best of luck. Cheers, Matt.
Evening Matthew, great video, very useful.
Please can i ask what the tubing is for? What would happen to the line if the Weight was allowed to run without the tubing?
The tubing as far as I am aware is for anti tangle purposes and also protects the fish from getting "mono burn"....loosing its scales and also getting injured from the line once its hooked.
Hi Gavin, thanks very much for commenting and I’m glad that you enjoyed the video. That’s a great question actually. Some anglers in some situations will choose to leave out the tubing completely. This is called fishing naked. Many commercial fisheries ban the method as there is a risk that the carp can be cut or damaged by the bare mainline. I have fished naked but after a while I decided it wasn't worth the risk to the carp and it wasn't catching me more so why bother. Rig tubing is also known as anti tangle tubing. I think anti tangle is a bit misleading really as certain rigs can tangle just as easily with or without tubing. For me, rig tubing is about protecting the carp but it’s also about protecting the last meter of line from rocks and branches and other hazards that are found on the lakes that I fish. I must admit that I often use a leadless leader as it follows the contours better than rig tubing. It’s just a personal preference really. Whenever I swap over to tubing I still catch carp. I’ll try and incorporate more on this subject into a future video so thanks for asking a great question! Cheers, Matt.
Described well as usual. Tell tail is a great idea I never thought of!
Hi Phillip, thanks for the support, much appreciated. I've been using the telltale trick for many years. It's really helped me to hone my approach and I'm sure you'll find it very useful. All the best, cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt....really interested in using this rig. What size run ring do you use? I can't find any Nash ones? Thanks.
Hi mate, unfortunately Nash no longer makes a run ring. They used to but it’s been discontinued. In this video I used a plastic run ring from a Fox run ring kit (comes with a buffer bead). I believe Bank Tackle makes a simple plastic run ring that is much cheaper and you don’t have to buy anything else other than the ring so do check them out. I’ve not tested it but it should work fine. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Thanks for the reply Matt
Good work… I’m learning a lot thanks 🙏
That's great to hear, thank you 😊
Hi Matt can you tell me how long the tubeing is on the main line thanks
Hi mate, tubing can be any length you want, I use 50cm to 1m.
Great rig idea but what is about the air inside the tube? Does it may float the line?
Hi mate, thanks for commenting. In this video I was using the Nash no spook rig tubing. It’s not as heavy as tungsten tubing but it still sinks. I tank test all the products I use to make sure that they behave as intended. If you’re in any doubt then try it for yourself. Cheers, Matt.
Hi love your rig set up. Just wondered is it necessary to put the little clip in the lead clip? By leaving it out it at least allows the fish to only tow around the hook if it breaks mainline side of swivel in the lead clip. What are the benefits of locating the tiny clip?
Hi David,
It’s safer to put the little fork piece in the lead clip to pin it to the swivel as on the take, you want the lead clip to move with the fish and pull out of the run ring. Watch my video on lead clips and you’ll see why having the lead clip run up the line can be dangerous: th-cam.com/video/a6WI6Y1o_Xk/w-d-xo.html
When this is set up the way it’s designed, if the mainline breaks, the big ring flies over any chod or leaf matter very quickly. Yes, the fish is left with some hooklink and the clip body and a bit of mainline but the fish will get rid of it quickly without the weight of the lead, even quicker if you use barbless.
Cheers,
Matt
Interesting... gonna try it !
Excellent, all the best with it 😊
Hi Matt, have you had any use with One More Cast’s run rig system? reckon it does the same job as this shock and run system?
Hi mate, I’ve not tested the OMC system but it’s a copycat of the Fox Tadpole system. I’ve tested the Fox system and I'm not a fan because the sleeve does not fit snugly onto the swivel and on the take the sleeve just slides up the line with the lead which is absolutely not what I want to happen. All I can tell you for sure is that this arrangement worked well for me in testing and did exactly what I wanted it to do 👌
Another brilliant video! 👍
Thanks very much Nick, glad you're enjoying the channel 👍
Awesome video. Just wondering if you need tubing for this or could you have the same setup without the tubing? What are the advantages? Thanks :)
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and for your support. I always use tubing or a leadless leader to protect the fish's flanks and to save on line damage from rocks etc. I have tried fishing naked but on reflection for me there were no advantages in doing so. Cheers, Matt.
I was wondering how well this would work if your trying to thread braid mainline thrue your rig tubing ? As it's a lot less stif than mono line any tips !!.
Hi Paul, I wouldn't bother trying. When I use braided mainline I tie it directly to 10m of Nash Heavy Duty Mono Snag leader in either 30lbs (0.50) or 40lbs (0.60). Because the leader is very robust I don’t bother adding tubing. I fish that straight down to a clip of some sort. TBH nowadays I’ve moved away from braided mainlines as they are very expensive and come with a variety of downsides. For general carping I use 12lbs Nash Bullet, for heavy duty work I use 20lbs Bullet. I also use both of those in combination with an abrasion leader where necessary. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
Thanx matt, very clever and effective. Have subbed!
Hi Fergus, thanks for commenting and for subscribing. I’m glad that you like the concept. I caught loads of carp on this setup this year so if you get everything else right, it will work for you I'm sure. Cheers, Matt.
Hallo Matthew, again a great video with a solution to avoid the leadclip problems i'am using already for years. I'am gonne try your rig setup this season. Normaly i'am using always a leadcore leader (gone switch to unlead). Can i use this material for your "shock and run" rig setup? Is there a reason why you use sometime a tube and other times a unlead core leader? Thnx
Hello Eric, thank you very much for the feedback. Yes, absolutely, you can use a lead free leader for this shock and run rig setup. Some waters ban lead free leaders so that's where I'd use rig tubing. Certain setups work well with either, some with leader but not with tubing and vice versa! So it really depends on the lake rules and the lead setup you use if that makes sense 😊 Really good question! Cheers, Matt
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Could u use this set up for zig fishing
Hi Mark, I’ve not tried it with zigs but this lead setup would work very well for zigs. The thing to watch for though is weed. Zigs work well in clear water and clear water tends to be weedy. It doesn't take much weed to jam a lead solid so it’s often better to dump the lead on the take when zigging. I hate losing leads but sometimes it's the only way. Cheers, Matt.
Gonna give this a go but don’t you think the tell tale Would be better left from attaching the main line and coming out from between the clip and the tail rubber. As I think tied to the swivel as you did wound stop it from rotating what you think?
Hi Shaun, thanks for commenting. Sure you can do it in various ways, TBH as long as I was using a ring swivel to connect the hooklink, it wouldn't bother me so personal preference mate. Cheers, Matt.
Matthew thank you for the videos, Iam learning a great deal from you, Billy Buckeye,AZ
Hi Billy, that's great to hear mate, thanks very much and glad to be part of your fishing journey 😊
How would the weight stay in place when it hits the water from cast??
Hi mate, I always cast to the clip to stop the lead in flight before it hits the water. This prevents the lead from pulling the ring off the sleeve on impact with the water. If you are fishing at max range and hitting the clip isn't possible then it’s probably better to use a traditional lead clip. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matthew I have found that the Vardis heavy duty lead clip downfall system is ideal as the system breaks down and can be made back to a lead clip system. So no need to cut anything off. Please have a look and let me know what you think. 👍🎣
Hi Jim, thanks for commenting. Not seen (or heard) of this one but I've just looked it up and I see what you mean! I'll add it to my list of bits to test, thanks 👍 Cheers, Matt.