In my experience, the travellers in Ireland are a cocktail of confusion. I know there are good travellers out there, but the guys in my area have beaten up defenseless people for fun. they even beat each other (mainly the younger ones). The young ones however suffer from this, and then go to school and are looked at distastefully because of their older siblings and parents. Today I saw a young traveller girl I knew from school walk by me. I nodded hello to her and she walked by me in this pitiful anger. Her brothers are dicks, but she was actually good and wanted only friends. I get annoyed at myself and others for hating travellers, but at the same time, I know many of us have suffered from them. I'm not sure what to do or think. Both arguments here seem relevant. They can be mean and normal. I wouldn't mind them going off doing their culture, if they wouldn't stop hurting us, the environment and themselves.
@@langlock1566 I also think it's worth pointing out, 5 years later, that a lot of media and information spread about them are negative, and positive news regarding them are scarce. When you only see negative representations, you can easily forget that you can't generalise an entire community. The family that lived near me were assholes, but who am I to talk about their entire culture and community, with no real research put into it. So obviously, my view was clouded in negativity. Yet, take the recent traveller graduates in UCC. Traveller women, standing up, taking a course on community leadership, going out to tell their own stories and lead their communities. There is nothing but good here. Stories like this need to heard more, and not to be drowned out by the negative representation. That's not to say stop discussing the bad, but include the good too.
@@mnemic6969 Yeah, I feel my comment 5 years ago was shit and hugely generalising. It took my bad experience and wrote it as the experience. Racist, insulting and harmful, and I'm thinking about deleting the comment. Just because I dealt with a shit family, I have absolutely no right to judge an entire culture and ethnicity.
@@chicknorton8839 I don't think that your original comment was really negative and unfair to the whole traveller community. You were simply commenting on your personal experiences, and your impressions.
Having lived near two separate halting sites for most of my life, and gone to schools which the children were required to attend, 90% of the interactions I had with them were negative. The 10% positive were the mothers who would go around looking for old clothes and such. They just wanted their kids to go to school, get an education, and get on in life. The fathers, however, kept this from ever happening. The boys were encouraged to be big and brash; the more intimidating you are, the bigger a man you are. The girls were taken out of school upon turning 16 (minimum age to leave mandatory schooling in Ireland), and more-or-less vanished into their new husbands trailer, where they're basically tied down until the family is a decent age, when they begin to get their freedom back. Yes, wider society often has a poor view of them, but this is generally not without some kind of basis. Telling people like me who have lived next to them for most of their lives that the theft, the attacks, the beatings they would dish out in school, telling me that none of those things happen is intensely aggravating. I would never generalize and say they are all as bad as the two groups that lived near me; I expect you to do the same and not expect all of them to be like the one group you dealt with.
Judgement Day you are the person giving the travelling people a bad name. Every response no matter if its a positive or negative is met by you with hatred. There are scumbags in every walk of life no matter what community they come from. Not all settled communities are model citizens and neither are all travelling communities but you are not helping anyone by being so abusive. I don't care where a person comes from. If I get respect then I give respect
Give it a rest and jog on and stop talking like an amadan. This sort of idiocy from either travellers or anyone else is damned stupid. You're complaining about prejudice and then roaring and ranting about the settled Irish, you may need to look up the word irony at some point.
I remember that one of our teachers arrived at classroom after visit her mother from hospital and she was tired. Then she started to tell us that his mother were sharing the room with a gypsy and that all the family of the gypsy were there in the room, like 12 members and that they were using the private bathroom even to have a shower. She tried to move her mother but the hospital was full so she was with her mother in silence, waiting to her mother die while the gypsy family was all the time bothering. We didn't have the lesson that day and we were happy but at the same time sad because our teacher was coming back to the hospital with her mother. The mother died 2 days after next to the gypsy family
@@Stevenbfg I remember that one of our teachers arrived at classroom after visit her mother from hospital and she was tired. Then she started to tell us that his mother were sharing the room with a gypsy and that all the family of the gypsy were there in the room, like 12 members and that they were using the private bathroom even to have a shower. She tried to move her mother but the hospital was full so she was with her mother in silence, waiting to her mother die while the gypsy family was all the time bothering. We didn't have the lesson that day and we were happy but at the same time sad because our teacher was coming back to the hospital with her mother. The mother died 2 days after next to the gypsy family
I'm from Ireland myself, and of the many travellers I've crossed paths with, very, very few of them show respect for those outside their community. Some may have a good heart, but none that I have ever met. Always looking for short cuts, and using intimidation as a means of getting not what they need but what they want. The lack of education doesn't help.
The prejudice isn't completely unjustified. They are well known for stealing from people throughout Ireland as well as being very aggressive with people in public spaces, something I have experienced first hand. As a group I'm sure some are fine but there are a lot of very nasty individuals within their society. On another note, the photos in this video were beautiful.
That's literally how stereotypes work. Shitty people in a group do things and then you say the group is known for it. Just because you've had bad experiences and they're known that way doesn't make it not a stereotype. That's the thing about questioning them, you have to admit when you've jumped to conclusions.
There is a criminal element in every community...but most travellers are only interested in living their lives. They are also some of the kindest ppl you would meet. So please shut your fucking mouth.
Darryl Mcd if you compared Irish travellers crime to 99% of other uk minorities it would be off the chart so stop being ignorant and sticking up for criminals
Eoghan900 exactly all they are is dirty thieving thinkers I was out on the tractor earlier and went to a field to do some tossing and the fucking cunts where there obviously thinkers they were just about to leave with a trailer load of our grass and he fucking cunts
I'm a brazilian. Times ago I was living in Dublin for interchange. I love Irish people, they were so nice to me and because of them I've learned so much. Thank you for that. But I met some irish people very rude to me and my friends, we call them knackers. The knackers are travelers who are in the video and even the Irish natives complain too? I'm just curious.
My father and me are travellers. The reason my family abandoned the group is because they were bad people. They stole, vandalized, and trespassed on private property just to leave it trashed. But when they were evicted and told to leave, they cried and wined like children and said it was discrimination. Many are selfish and delusional, but some are ok people who actually have morals and leave that life like my father did. He left to be with my mom who wasn't a Gypsy and hasn't spoken to most of his family since. He left because he knew it was fucked to pull this shit.
That is encouraging to hear. Whenever one is in a dysfunctional group whatever it may be, the best solution is to leave them behind. There's a great big world out there that you can take part in. A world that is leaving them behind.
I honestly don't agree with this. Travellers tend to abuse the hospitality of communities, treating locals like shit, expecting to be given the world, they are entitled and reject education.
they are infamous for doing shoddy work and ripping off old and vulnerable people. I heard a story of an old man who trusted them to do a gas pipe laying job. It worked for a few months until the gas ran out, they dug up his driveway to find out they had simply put a gas canister under the ground and by this point are long gone.
In fact I'll tell you the experience I had. I used to live up in the North East of Scotland until recently and they decided to set up in a wooded area just outside the town I lived in. People usually walk dogs through these woods but you wouldn't want to with these people around. They would play music very loudly and set fires and actually ended up burning down many trees in the woods and could have destroyed the whole forest, I could see the smoke from my house. After that they were driven off by the police. This was around about 2014.
While the narrator is talking about how stereotypes are wrong about travellers being unruly and dirty, they literally showed pictures of travellers being unruly and dirty.
Hopefully more of their children will leave this "traditional" lifestyle and try to fit into a modern economy. Maybe even marry outside the clan and get a view of the world outside of their little group.
@@DennisRay99 to what just fit in with modern day society? To be stripped of hundreds of years of history and heritage . I’m a proud Irish traveller who hasn’t done a thing wrong to others I don’t steal I talk to all walks of life and I make music and films and I also live in a halting site which has seen European boxers models and poets make a life and a wage from the passions honest. so I’m sorry to inform ye but I strongly disagree with the angle taken towards “all” travellers. When did you last see a traveller make you a chicken roll or pull you a pint or perform surgery you don’t why? Because society and along with governments have look at travellers as rodents and ignored them for years depriving them of many amenities and education, you may have today, which unfortunately leads them to try source an income which in some not all cases are illegal. But on a grander scale the majority of travellers try get by honestly at least my own and those iv met, I like you shouldn’t speak on all as we don’t know them true?
I had the misfortune to share a crossing of the Irish Sea with travellers. Their behaviour was disgraceful. The Captain was forced to close the onboard shop due to the level of theft. The adults intimidated the young girls on the tills and walked away with trays heaped with stolen food whilst their feral children ran wild. The crossing was a nightmare for decent people. I believe the time is right for a brave investigative journalist to take a long, hard look at the traveller community in the wake of the killing of PC Anthony Harper and expose the misery they inflict upon communities.
Sadly they're still here in certain parts of the USA!! Most notable is north central Florida! Biggest cesspool of white trash scumbags Ive ever seen!!!
I am from New Zealand. Irish travellers have recently caused a lot of trouble recently In Auckland. They even made the news for their unruly behaviour. Its unfortunate that this particular group of people fit the stereotypical description of gypsy travellers. I've always been interested in their culture and are open to the idea that there are decent people within their community. Its a shame that New Zealand have experienced them in such a negative light right now.
Sorry but 90 percent of them are cunts every single one of my neighbors (Ireland) has been either robbed or ripped off the murdered an old man in the town near me and they stole a friend's dog so it could be put in a pit with a much larger dog luckily he managed to get it back by paying them
I remember that one of our teachers arrived at classroom after visit her mother from hospital and she was tired. Then she started to tell us that his mother were sharing the room with a gypsy and that all the family of the gypsy were there in the room, like 12 members and that they were using the private bathroom even to have a shower. She tried to move her mother but the hospital was full so she was with her mother in silence, waiting to her mother die while the gypsy family was all the time bothering. We didn't have the lesson that day and we were happy but at the same time sad because our teacher was coming back to the hospital with her mother. The mother died 2 days after next to the gypsy family
Personal experience, a group of travellers used a car park just a couple of streets away. They cut the fence of a daycare and used it to dump their trash and waste until police put a squad car on the concerned street. They were moved out by police (almost forcefully) after they had too many communal and business complaints lodged against them. You can take this marginalised victim shit, photography is amazing btw, and forget it for this group of folks.
I worked in two shops when I was younger, a supermarket and clothing shop. In both instances we had problems with travelers stealing. Just the other day, I saw a traveler child steal a toy out of a charity shop, and the parent just let it happen. I also have first hand accounts of travelers being antisocial and aggressive towards the public, in a completely unprovoked manor. Hard to have sympathy with people like that. I'm sure what I've witnessed doesn't represent all travelers, but I'm yet to have positive experience involving them.
What the fuck do you expect when they have been treated like shit to the point of having a constant need to protect themselves? A lot of people eventually give into the stereotypes put on them when nobody gives them a chance to begin with. After several years it ends up being all that they know
Can't excuse it with that, no one is stopping the children from getting an education and job other than their own families. They don't steal because everyone dislikes them, everyone dislikes them because they steal (and fight, and treat their women like shit)
i cant decide on a name making fun of travellers on a video discussing the issues they face is funny but the fact that Ireland was colonised way before your time is forbidden to joke about?
@@icantdecideonaname Well I'm from the Indian subcontinent where children are still dying thanks to the British Empire. Anyways its so funny Ireland was 800 years British property the northern Ireland still haha
Persecuted? Maybe if they didn't try to steal everything that wasn't bolted down, or fight anyone that even glances their way, or tidied up after they squat illegally on land, people would be more tolerant of them, and they wouldn't get the bad rep they deserve.
Im sorry but im an Irish traveller and it's not stereotypes we bare Knuckle alot, alot of people do iligeal things, not all of us are bad but it's a broad statement to say we're persecuted and struggling because we're doing fine
My parents, when I was a kid, told me to never talk to a gypsy (or "Irish Traveler" as you call it) because all they cause is trouble. They literally park wherever they want or in a gypsy site! They leave so much mess that I'm not surprised that the riot police in Essex got rid of them! They follow no law.
@@AlfredTheBrave He'd have to fight like Chuck Norris in his prime. These guys have a hive mind. They run in packs and have that gang mentality. Just another reason people aren't fond of their "traditional lifestyle."
I do sympathise with the Irish, as well as fellow British people suffering at the hands of these criminals. Both the UK and Ireland just fall victim to the waves of these criminals, stopping on people's privately owned land then leaving it in a state...stealing internet cabling, pets, possessions...they're even crap drivers with their white vans!
it's a interesting video and i'm sure there is a lot of good and bad in all groups of people. That being said we had some "Irish travelers" move through town a few months back. They broke drown a iron fence and moved on to a park which is part of a primary school. it was about a month before they left. The grass was destroyed, turned up by the 10 to 15 caravans that had parked on the football pitches for the children's Sunday league games. There was an gigantic amount of litter all over the park. when it was gathered together there must have been 5 or 6 piles about 4ft high. It took weeks to put things back to the way they were before. Unfortunately they had only moved ten minutes up the road to another park and did much the same there. I liked the video and welcome the opportunity to see things from a new perspective but this video may have been a little one sided that's all. keep at it though seeker I love your work.
I remember that one of our teachers arrived at classroom after visit her mother from hospital and she was tired. Then she started to tell us that his mother were sharing the room with a gypsy and that all the family of the gypsy were there in the room, like 12 members and that they were using the private bathroom even to have a shower. She tried to move her mother but the hospital was full so she was with her mother in silence, waiting to her mother die while the gypsy family was all the time bothering. We didn't have the lesson that day and we were happy but at the same time sad because our teacher was coming back to the hospital with her mother. The mother died 2 days after next to the gypsy family
You see who ever that teacher was she don't under stand ús travelers care for our parents that's why they were all there waiting for there mother and travelers had hard life's they lived in triallers none like ye
As others have mentioned, though you can't generalise an entire group of people, stereotypes exist for a reason. I live in a fairly rural area and, two or 3 times a year, we have large groups of travellers moving onto farmers fields (refusing to leave), stealing things from peoples gardens, shops, building sites etc., and starting fights. I've had some really unpleasant encounters with traveller men and children; they are typically very aggressive people.
But what u don’t understand not every traveler is the same if a black person stole some thing, would u assume that every black Person steals? no so don’t assume all travelers do the same thing
Not necessarily mate it's all about surviving and there kids have to learn how to survive for themselfs for 14 onwards that's why there taken out of school so early ,
@@anonymous-xl4px it's about stamping out an underbelly. These people don't have the same values as us, they don't believe in hard work and decency. If they can't live like the rest of us then we should drive them out.
People in this comment section are like “Irish travellers don’t face discrimination!” and then go on a long racist rant about how much they hate travellers.
@@mrrooter3630 Ah yes because it's reasonable to hate an entire ethnic minority based on negative interactions (and in most cases stories heard about negative interactions) with a few of that minority. Apologies for ever calling it an excuse.
@@jaksida300 you see the problem is when you go to ask them to distinguish which one of them is after committing the crime or causing hassle the refuse to do so. They have no one to blame but themselves. The term as thick as thieves is really fitting for them.
Whilst some maybe decent and loyal people unfortunately there's a large amount of travellers who do an immense amount of damage to local communities. In the U.K if I'm being honest on the list of social injustices, Irish travellers aren't going to be that high up on the list of what we need to solve. Even when they come to school it is sometimes met with threats, damage and all round a bad environment deserve to be treated with respect but most haven't even attempted to earn the respect
But why do they have to earn respect just because of who they were born as!? theres good an bad in every one u wouldn’t expect other minorities to earn your respect
The reason they started living in the U.K. because most of the people in Ireland hate them. This did not fairly represent travellers. In Ireland they are a nuisance and a disgrace, causing only trouble. And after they leave a town in a right mess they just up and leave, leaving the people of the town to clean up their mess. My personal experience with travellers has been nothing but horrible. I have been mugged , and my house has been burgled.
I had these 'Irish travellers' in my town and they were a pain in the ass. All they do is build stuff on the cheap, not pay taxes and live in car parks and fields
From my personal experience most travellers will park there camper vans designated spots that aren't theirs or will try to fight you. I had an experience when I was fucking 4 and a 3 year old traveller tried to fight me.
It's not prejudice. It's like saying "gravity is attractive" or "water tends to be wet"... if we all have experience that is consistently negative then it's a philosophical obligation to draw the most logical inference. It's like saying people are prejudice against fire because there's this insistence that fire burns.. Try NOT talking with them -- just go around, following some. Watch how they interact in areas. They leave every place dirtier and worse than when they arrived - and I'm being generous.
I'm completely conflicted with the contents of the video and the comments. But I do have some reservation. Do note I don't even live or had gone to Europe let alone the UK. If the Irish Travellers are nomadic and such, how are they able to afford those Iphones and their events (that goes on for days). And why only the photojournalist is the one speaking. I feel there's more to the story here. Well definitely see there's still incomplete story about this.
i had no prejudice at all also because I used to live in italy and when they were coming into my shop i can tell you they weren't pleasant at all. harassing my customers harassing me trying nicking stuff had to kick them out many many times saw them around the high street being cocky and rude to people whom were minding their business they got neglected when they were young they grew up and since they able to go around in groups they don't know the rules and they think they can do what they want. im sorrry but im not buying the story that they polite because i think they quite naughty.
They really are. No matter how decent anyone is to them they still harass them. The saddest part of all this is that they get away with it. You can't touch them because some idiot has made them the indigenous people of Ireland. They're a bunch of unpleasant eejits which you clearly have seen first hand. Anyone here who supports them is either one of them or has yet to meet one in person.
@@mrrooter3630 I am not one I'm only 1/4 Irish and not a traveller. But have met many lovely ones, their mannerisms are different but they are generally nice chatty people. They have a unique and interesting culture that has a lot that is admirable, shame you can't see that.
@@anonymous-xl4px I can see the fee descent ones and have shared a point and bought many things from decent ones and they'd even tell you that there are a lot of lads in the traveller community you can't trust. One said that their nearly like tribes and there are decent ones and ones who's community is full of thieves.
Randomly shoved in a pool by them on Christmas eve in London.. fully clothed, then they destroyed things in the hotel lobby and when cops showed up assaulted a police officer and were all acting like victims. 2 night in a row cops were called Christmas eve and Christmas in front of their many children. See so I was at a hotel and didn't assault anyone and just acting like a decent person. Cops didn't arrest or harass me. Weird. You receive the energy you give into the world. Act with human decency and be treated as such.
Im an Englishman live in a house im all for the travlers they live the right way thats how we should all be living travlers come on our parks regular i always go over and welcome them its the people that run this world you wana change.
When my husband and I were on a group travel to ireland we passed a traveller camp on the side of the road. Our tour guide told us to stay away from them because they would rob us and maybe hurt us. That might not be fair but there may be some truth to it. I havent heard many positive things about travellers
But you like the UK that killed millions of millions of Irish people and even speak english whilst paying heed to rumours about minorities that have zero veracity. Please learn something from Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose that kicked the British out of Bharat during WW2 using stones and sticks.
@@robertbyrne592 I am giving an analysis. Its double standards when you don't dislike the UK for their crimes but hate on minorities for miniscule theft.
I'm not from the UK so take this with a grain of salt. But I think not being able to read in a highly developed country is a pretty big deal. Do their kids go to school? You could argue not giving your kids an education is a form of child abuse.
As bad as they are. Here is an honest question. How many of you Cheer on Tyson Fury when he fights? The man is the Pride of Great Britain and...........an Irish Traveler.
Also let's not mention that you also only lectured about the police in the UK, because in Americans minds Irish people who also suffer these fools can do no wrong, even though the Irish police get brutal in some cases.
Wanderer628 Who cares? The fact is it’s about time something was done about this “problem”. They are hated throughout the UK and ROI. I think the British and Irish police should be allowed to go further. Getting all upset because she didn’t mention the force used by Irish police is missing the point. I’m not usually the “flog em and hang em” type but in this case I think it’s kind of necessary. Btw, the Irish police have their hands tied too, they are being crippled by the current PC sensitivity - every Irish person knows there are obvious genetic differences that explain why they behave the way they do but if you say it publicly you might get into trouble these days.
They need to pay taxes like the rest of us! They need to stop squatting on public property and destroying perfectly nice parks. They also need to learn to stop dumping their rubbish where ever they damn please and be responsible for themselves in society.
I lost my wallet .i had 700 pound in it.. and my credit cards..driving licence.etc..i was devastated..until next day a traveller pulled up to my house and handed me my wallet with nothing missin..i offered him.100..and he would not take it..so no there not all bad.
just for reference I left my wallet on a site at work with travellers and they didnt steal any money but they went thru it and found some valium pills n took some lol
I feel if you are going to do this story you have to look at more than one group and look at both the positives and negative, why do people dislike them? This is all missing here 0.1% of the population of England and Wales are Gypsy, Romany or Traveller but they make u 5% of the prison population. Personally I do lack a lot of sympathy with my family having been robbed by a group for over £50,000 and our house now having CCTV around it, which does not stop them coming up our lane and checking out or house. I am sure not all members of the community are bad, but a significant proportion are and that can't be ignored.
Statistics like that are indicative of over-policing, persecution and discrimination against a minority just as much as they might indicate a minority is more criminal. Also note that being persecuted and discriminated against erodes trust in the society and establishment that is ostracising, hence leading to more crime and anti-social behaviour.
Their family values consist of having ten kids before marriage, taking girls out of school as soon as possible and marrying them off to some fat ass abusive scumbag to have more kids with.
VintageLJ the majority of them are family men who work hard for their wife and kids . As having lots of kids that's because they are Catholic. Just because you don't agree or understand that doesn't mean you are right and they are wrong . It's people full of prejudice like you that makes them defensive.....
Loulou La Petite Renarde Look you clearly don’t live on the British isles so let me tell you why we hate them. I’ve lived in both England and Ireland, so I have my fair share of stories. They are thieves, they cause havoc in peaceful areas, they leave all their rubbish behind on public property, they don’t pay any taxes, they just settle on public property like it’s their land, they steal dogs for dog fights and they damage local property. When I lived in Ireland they literally stole all the lead from the church (graves and everything). If they really had a heart they wouldn’t do that, they are just scum nobody likes them and you don’t live here so you have no say. Stop feeling sorry they bring it upon themselves. End of story.
It's always how racist the settled community are towards the travelling community from whatever country they are from but never highlights how racist the travelling community are to the settled. Respect works both ways. If a person doesn't respect me then why should I respect them. I don't care what there background is, give respect, get respect. There are scammers from all walks of life but if a person has a bad experience with a particular community then they will never trust that community. Certain communities are not held accountable for their actions and that's what pisses a lot of people off.
My workes at a business and it has a carpark, one morning he arrived and it was full of travellers in expensive cars and children running everywhere, non of the staff could park and they refused to leave. After a couple days the police told them the had to leave but they only full their cars with as little petrol as possible because they used that excuse not to leave so the council had to pay for all their cars to be refuelled. They moved away but not far, and my dad and many of the people who worked there discovered piles of human shit round the back of their building. The company installed a barrier on the carpark and every day somebody parks their car next to the entrance just enough so a caravan couldn't get through and this was no waited effort as weeks later they tried again. Do not tell me these people are 'the cleanest people I've known' or some shit they are dirty people who sponge of society without contributing anything to it.
Black Acid Gaming they robbed my friend and his grandad caught them my friend cane out and they tried to say it was their tools and then tried to sell the tools back to him
The British Empire did the same thing, albeit ×1000000 in scale to the people of Ireland, though I find it strange that the British Empires atrocities are somewhat condoned by the people of Ireland but what the Irish travellers did, not.
@@__________2756 Argument? British Empire murdering 60% of the population of Ireland is a fact. No wonder why Ireland continues to speak english whilst we desi people bask in our 5000 year old culture, language after bravely ousting the colonialists out by ourselves together with Germany, Japan through our hero Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose unlike a certain nation whose northeastern part is still occupied.
I like how most the comments are just people saying they had bad experiences with travellers and thats why there all bad I mean Ive had bad experiences with country people (non-travellers) and I don't think there all bad I just think that some of them are bad
I have met a lot of travellors in my time. They were all the same. Absolute scumbags robbing people, Scamming, Breaking stuff, living off the state etc.
Yes, but the difference is that barely anyone has ever had any non-bad experience with them. That's the troubling part. We all have had bad experiences with just about any group on the planet, but we've had far more pleasant ones, that's what makes us believe that the shit people are just a minority. But when barely anyone *ever* has non-bad experiences with groups like Irish travelers, Roma etc. it's hardly any wonder why they end up getting a bad reputation... If there were so many good ones among them, you'd think people would meet those good ones once in a while...
Read the comments and the amount of people who had things stolen from them and the amount of people who got the shit kicked out of them. Even as a 13 year old I have had at least 10 travellers try to fight me for no reason.
I grew up a "Traveller" moving around the British Isles until I was 18, our people followed the work at festivals like Glastonbury and seasonal picking etc. The term "Irish Traveller" doesn't represent Travellers, who are just British people seeking another way of life. Those folk seem more like Gypsies. There are subtle differences - Few, if any, "Travellers" live on the local authority sites reserved for Romani/Gypsy, Scottish Gypsies/Irish Gypsies. While Travellers/New age Travellers tend to value education, quality of life and the environment. Choosing to live in forests or national parks and taking part in peace convoys, stop the war protests or environmental causes. Gypsies like the folk in this tend to live on reserved sites, road sides or outskirts of towns - Basically nomadic Chavs
You miss the whole point. It's not about some hippies bored with life spending the cash of their parents and smoking weed. The Irish Travellers are a people that have refused to integrate into the law-abiding society for thousands of years and they give other every reason to hate them.
Henry you’re a Hippy not a Traveller. The only true Travellers in the U.K. and Ireland are Romanichal Travellers, Irish Travellers, Scottish Travellers and Showmen Travellers.
In the UK there Irish Travellers and Romanichal Gypsies. Also new age travellers are just poor hippies who are drug addicts that are stupid and live in the back of their vans
They're an ethnic group now? I don't think an ancestry test would make any distinction between Irish heritage and Irish traveler heritage. Seems like settled Irish folk are too proud to admit that they share the same roots as travelers lol.
No one is gonna read this but I am a traveller and I admit there is many bad people in my culture . Tbh the things they do are sickening to me . But there Is bad people in every culture and belief , if you actually go out and become friends with a traveler they will be there for the rest of your life becuse all we have been learned is ride or die. Most of us has all grown up with people being prejudice most are still mad. But the ones who aren't are the travellers you see feeding the homeless, going to holy countrys, trying to educate children is a way there not dissing there culture but still leaning ( I'm 15 I get home schooled 1 a week) most girls in my area do aswell. I dont live in a trailer my dad owns a travler sight it's so safe people walk there dogs and bring them here so the kids who are playing outside can play with them. One thing about my culture is my family dont think getting married at 16 is right my full family dont . My dad bought me a car and said ino your not old enough to drive it but live your life like your sister who got married at 19 . 19 seems young to non travlers but to us that's a bonus . We don't arrange marriages becuse love is love. One thing country people need to experience is bieng on a green field in the summer all the dogs a loose and you and all your friends theres 15 of us walking to the shop. All I have to say is theres more to my culture:) God bless all of you prejudice people I wrote this fast so If its messy sorry
Calm down comments! Don't you realize that violence doesn't justify violence on either side? Regardless of who they are, insulting them and attacking them won't help resolve underlying issues.
Well ..in my home town(arklow,Co.wicklow) all the travellers are dirty knackers.They steal,litter/pollute and are rude af.they live illegally at an abandoned plaster factory which they claim is their land. The father abuses his children and his wife. we often get threatened by them also. The people living a bit away from them are acc pretty nice, me and a couple other lads, we were exploring the place and an old man approached us.we had no where to run as we were trapped by surrounding walls. The lad seemed pretty sound and just came over to make sure we aren't lighting fires. He spoke to us how he ended up on the move due to the recession and how he makes his living. He said that a good bit of them have moved into council houses. However A nearby council estate is known for its drugs habits, I have many friends living there and about half the houses are full druggies. There is significantly less travellers now days as we are climbing out of the recession. I can see why people have made a stereotype as such.
I fought a traveler once. Biggest scumbag I’ve ever known in my life. I gave him a black eye in front of everyone in my whole class and I was shocked that 20 others didn’t want my scalp. This video is just pure propaganda.
To all the ignorant people settled Irish people and other Britons, Irish travellers are good people if you get two known them personally, we have own our culture, we was the first people on these lands so learn some ancient history and wisen up
Manchester paddys No. You don’t have any knowledge, just “folklore”. What “culture” do you have? Taking advantage of others? Terrorizing the elderly and vulnerable? Being generally disgusting? Thinking you’re entitled to tax payers money and shamelessness? No. You have contributed nothing to Ireland, that’s why Irish people despise you. What am I saying? Everyone despises you.
I pulled a gypsy bird last night, she asked did I wanna come back to hers for a good time.....she wasn't fucking kidding i went on the dodgems, waltzers, ghost train and came home with a goldfish.
Ye all really hating on Irish travelers yes maybe some of them can be a lot but also I’m sure so can ye you can’t hate on them because of only the few you barley met
Irish-American here, while this seems nice she is trying to be understanding of these fascinating people, but from the comments I see from folks living in Ireland, i take it a lot of the stereotypes are warranted.
@@Sepheryn oh totally I'm sure, and all my cousins have been back a bunch of times, I'm like the only one who hasn't and they have said they heard stories of them a lot.
Like this Irish gal who does youtube ended up in Compton when she visited LA 😝, and she said her life was threatend by multiple people who did not look like her if you catch my drift haha, if you know anything about the famous rough suburb of Compton near LA this rings true and just isn't a stereotype, but of course when they said they were Irish girls just like that everyone treated them like new shinny objects and were nice, but the folks there new better to know regular white girls would go to Compton with anything else in mind then to see how shitty it is. But there have been movies about it a famous album about Compton, so I don't know how she couldn't have known it was a gang infested shithole lol
In my experience, the travellers in Ireland are a cocktail of confusion. I know there are good travellers out there, but the guys in my area have beaten up defenseless people for fun. they even beat each other (mainly the younger ones). The young ones however suffer from this, and then go to school and are looked at distastefully because of their older siblings and parents. Today I saw a young traveller girl I knew from school walk by me. I nodded hello to her and she walked by me in this pitiful anger. Her brothers are dicks, but she was actually good and wanted only friends. I get annoyed at myself and others for hating travellers, but at the same time, I know many of us have suffered from them. I'm not sure what to do or think. Both arguments here seem relevant. They can be mean and normal. I wouldn't mind them going off doing their culture, if they wouldn't stop hurting us, the environment and themselves.
@@langlock1566 I also think it's worth pointing out, 5 years later, that a lot of media and information spread about them are negative, and positive news regarding them are scarce. When you only see negative representations, you can easily forget that you can't generalise an entire community. The family that lived near me were assholes, but who am I to talk about their entire culture and community, with no real research put into it. So obviously, my view was clouded in negativity. Yet, take the recent traveller graduates in UCC. Traveller women, standing up, taking a course on community leadership, going out to tell their own stories and lead their communities. There is nothing but good here. Stories like this need to heard more, and not to be drowned out by the negative representation. That's not to say stop discussing the bad, but include the good too.
You do know that negative behavior is not exclusive to certain ethnic groups right?
@@mnemic6969 Yeah, I feel my comment 5 years ago was shit and hugely generalising. It took my bad experience and wrote it as the experience. Racist, insulting and harmful, and I'm thinking about deleting the comment. Just because I dealt with a shit family, I have absolutely no right to judge an entire culture and ethnicity.
@@chicknorton8839 I don't think that your original comment was really negative and unfair to the whole traveller community. You were simply commenting on your personal experiences, and your impressions.
Having lived near two separate halting sites for most of my life, and gone to schools which the children were required to attend, 90% of the interactions I had with them were negative.
The 10% positive were the mothers who would go around looking for old clothes and such. They just wanted their kids to go to school, get an education, and get on in life. The fathers, however, kept this from ever happening. The boys were encouraged to be big and brash; the more intimidating you are, the bigger a man you are. The girls were taken out of school upon turning 16 (minimum age to leave mandatory schooling in Ireland), and more-or-less vanished into their new husbands trailer, where they're basically tied down until the family is a decent age, when they begin to get their freedom back.
Yes, wider society often has a poor view of them, but this is generally not without some kind of basis. Telling people like me who have lived next to them for most of their lives that the theft, the attacks, the beatings they would dish out in school, telling me that none of those things happen is intensely aggravating. I would never generalize and say they are all as bad as the two groups that lived near me; I expect you to do the same and not expect all of them to be like the one group you dealt with.
+Judgement Day. What point are you trying to make?
Judgement Day you are the person giving the travelling people a bad name. Every response no matter if its a positive or negative is met by you with hatred. There are scumbags in every walk of life no matter what community they come from. Not all settled communities are model citizens and neither are all travelling communities but you are not helping anyone by being so abusive. I don't care where a person comes from. If I get respect then I give respect
Give it a rest and jog on and stop talking like an amadan. This sort of idiocy from either travellers or anyone else is damned stupid. You're complaining about prejudice and then roaring and ranting about the settled Irish, you may need to look up the word irony at some point.
I remember that one of our teachers arrived at classroom after visit her mother from hospital and she was tired. Then she started to tell us that his mother were sharing the room with a gypsy and that all the family of the gypsy were there in the room, like 12 members and that they were using the private bathroom even to have a shower. She tried to move her mother but the hospital was full so she was with her mother in silence, waiting to her mother die while the gypsy family was all the time bothering. We didn't have the lesson that day and we were happy but at the same time sad because our teacher was coming back to the hospital with her mother. The mother died 2 days after next to the gypsy family
@@Stevenbfg I remember that one of our teachers arrived at classroom after visit her mother from hospital and she was tired. Then she started to tell us that his mother were sharing the room with a gypsy and that all the family of the gypsy were there in the room, like 12 members and that they were using the private bathroom even to have a shower. She tried to move her mother but the hospital was full so she was with her mother in silence, waiting to her mother die while the gypsy family was all the time bothering. We didn't have the lesson that day and we were happy but at the same time sad because our teacher was coming back to the hospital with her mother. The mother died 2 days after next to the gypsy family
I'm from Ireland myself, and of the many travellers I've crossed paths with, very, very few of them show respect for those outside their community. Some may have a good heart, but none that I have ever met. Always looking for short cuts, and using intimidation as a means of getting not what they need but what they want. The lack of education doesn't help.
What is your opinion about British Empire doing ×10000000 times more evil things to Ireland and her people?
@@travelleryu the tinkers are the modern day black and tans.
I have the same experience 90% of travellers in Ireland are scum, can't speak for the uk
Dirty buffers
Fax
The prejudice isn't completely unjustified. They are well known for stealing from people throughout Ireland as well as being very aggressive with people in public spaces, something I have experienced first hand. As a group I'm sure some are fine but there are a lot of very nasty individuals within their society.
On another note, the photos in this video were beautiful.
Michael B ikr, they trying to make us feel made bad with them watching TV and a kid with Samsung galaxy
That's literally how stereotypes work. Shitty people in a group do things and then you say the group is known for it. Just because you've had bad experiences and they're known that way doesn't make it not a stereotype. That's the thing about questioning them, you have to admit when you've jumped to conclusions.
Tori Green what he's saying is that MOST of them are like that
They never pay any tax and our taxes have to clean up the shit those gypos leave behind, they're all unruly and dirty.
But so many people have bad experiences with them. Yes I have had ok experience but they are nowhere as friendly as other Irish people.
This video never mentions the traveller's propensity to commit crime and the lack of effort their own community takes to take responsibility...
I dont agree with the crime but other then that they live the best way 👍
There is a criminal element in every community...but most travellers are only interested in living their lives. They are also some of the kindest ppl you would meet. So please shut your fucking mouth.
Darryl Mcd if you compared Irish travellers crime to 99% of other uk minorities it would be off the chart so stop being ignorant and sticking up for criminals
Eoghan900 exactly all they are is dirty thieving thinkers I was out on the tractor earlier and went to a field to do some tossing and the fucking cunts where there obviously thinkers they were just about to leave with a trailer load of our grass and he fucking cunts
I'm a brazilian. Times ago I was living in Dublin for interchange. I love Irish people, they were so nice to me and because of them I've learned so much. Thank you for that. But I met some irish people very rude to me and my friends, we call them knackers. The knackers are travelers who are in the video and even the Irish natives complain too? I'm just curious.
My father and me are travellers. The reason my family abandoned the group is because they were bad people. They stole, vandalized, and trespassed on private property just to leave it trashed. But when they were evicted and told to leave, they cried and wined like children and said it was discrimination. Many are selfish and delusional, but some are ok people who actually have morals and leave that life like my father did. He left to be with my mom who wasn't a Gypsy and hasn't spoken to most of his family since. He left because he knew it was fucked to pull this shit.
That is encouraging to hear. Whenever one is in a dysfunctional group whatever it may be, the best solution is to leave them behind. There's a great big world out there that you can take part in. A world that is leaving them behind.
Irish travellers tried to run my dog over with there horse in the local park. I’m really not sympathetic to them.
Did you have your dog off the lead?
I honestly don't agree with this. Travellers tend to abuse the hospitality of communities, treating locals like shit, expecting to be given the world, they are entitled and reject education.
Same come the north side of cork there that's were you learn what there really like lawless
PC types always making excuses for savages
I think you mean self entitled.
"reject education." I reject education and see that as virtue.
Liam Davis well I am an Irish traveler and all the people I know who are also airing travelers are nothing like that.
they are infamous for doing shoddy work and ripping off old and vulnerable people. I heard a story of an old man who trusted them to do a gas pipe laying job. It worked for a few months until the gas ran out, they dug up his driveway to find out they had simply put a gas canister under the ground and by this point are long gone.
My experience of Irish travellers hasn't been a nice one I'll tell you that.
In fact I'll tell you the experience I had. I used to live up in the North East of Scotland until recently and they decided to set up in a wooded area just outside the town I lived in. People usually walk dogs through these woods but you wouldn't want to with these people around. They would play music very loudly and set fires and actually ended up burning down many trees in the woods and could have destroyed the whole forest, I could see the smoke from my house. After that they were driven off by the police. This was around about 2014.
But didn't the British Empire did far worse things to the people of Ireland?
@@joemacdougall9205 a traveller spat in my face whem I was younger
@@travelleryu if you knew anything about Ireland you'd know only posh ares holes from Howth like knackers
C Klan how is it shite it's true that britian subjugated the people of Ireland constantly
Unfortunately the stereotypes are usually true.
When ever travellers come to my community the amount of dogs and bikes being stolen takes a big jump.
Your right a traveller tried to steal my dog
Like, I’m not trying to stereotype all of them, but none I’ve met don’t fit the stereotype
If they stole my dog, I would hunt them down!
Why do they steal the dogs?
Juan Carlos Vazquez Dog fights. They’ll say it “part of they’re culture” if you ask them bout it
While the narrator is talking about how stereotypes are wrong about travellers being unruly and dirty, they literally showed pictures of travellers being unruly and dirty.
Yep, that was too funny.😂😂😂
No not really, they showed a cute little guy with a plumbers crack 😂😂😂 crying, poor little soul eh he's so cute
There are a lot of bad ones. I know. . But, I feel sorry for the ones that actually are good.
never met any of the "good ones", never ever
Yes my neighbouts are lovely travellers
@@elenagisa1318 there are some travellers that are fine but the majority are at the very least passive aggressive
Hopefully more of their children will leave this "traditional" lifestyle and try to fit into a modern economy. Maybe even marry outside the clan and get a view of the world outside of their little group.
@@DennisRay99 to what just fit in with modern day society? To be stripped of hundreds of years of history and heritage . I’m a proud Irish traveller who hasn’t done a thing wrong to others I don’t steal I talk to all walks of life and I make music and films and I also live in a halting site which has seen European boxers models and poets make a life and a wage from the passions honest. so I’m sorry to inform ye but I strongly disagree with the angle taken towards “all” travellers. When did you last see a traveller make you a chicken roll or pull you a pint or perform surgery you don’t why? Because society and along with governments have look at travellers as rodents and ignored them for years depriving them of many amenities and education, you may have today, which unfortunately leads them to try source an income which in some not all cases are illegal. But on a grander scale the majority of travellers try get by honestly at least my own and those iv met, I like you shouldn’t speak on all as we don’t know them true?
I had the misfortune to share a crossing of the Irish Sea with travellers. Their behaviour was disgraceful. The Captain was forced to close the onboard shop due to the level of theft. The adults intimidated the young girls on the tills and walked away with trays heaped with stolen food whilst their feral children ran wild.
The crossing was a nightmare for decent people.
I believe the time is right for a brave investigative journalist to take a long, hard look at the traveller community in the wake of the killing of PC Anthony Harper and expose the misery they inflict upon communities.
Swim the next time
Sadly they're still here in certain parts of the USA!! Most notable is north central Florida! Biggest cesspool of white trash scumbags Ive ever seen!!!
I am from New Zealand. Irish travellers have recently caused a lot of trouble recently In Auckland. They even made the news for their unruly behaviour. Its unfortunate that this particular group of people fit the stereotypical description of gypsy travellers. I've always been interested in their culture and are open to the idea that there are decent people within their community. Its a shame that New Zealand have experienced them in such a negative light right now.
Sorry but 90 percent of them are cunts every single one of my neighbors (Ireland) has been either robbed or ripped off the murdered an old man in the town near me and they stole a friend's dog so it could be put in a pit with a much larger dog luckily he managed to get it back by paying them
How the hell did they get to New Zealand lol. That's like half way across the world. Did they load their campers on boats lol
New Zealand has enough to put up with already with their own natives!!
If you find a decent honest one let me know, I'm 65 and have never met one yet?
'None of those stereotypes ever fitted' why don't you take a survey on that one? Oh, is it just your opinion?
Why don't you help your brothers and sisters in Northern Ireland instead of calling for bogus and racist surveys?
@@travelleryu racist 😂
I love how this doc tries to make out the tinkers to be persecuted helpless victims but everybody here knows better.
Yeah, they haven't indoctrinated us yet, unlike the shitshow that's happening in America
this is a biased report .....the travellers are well off schemers
I remember that one of our teachers arrived at classroom after visit her mother from hospital and she was tired. Then she started to tell us that his mother were sharing the room with a gypsy and that all the family of the gypsy were there in the room, like 12 members and that they were using the private bathroom even to have a shower. She tried to move her mother but the hospital was full so she was with her mother in silence, waiting to her mother die while the gypsy family was all the time bothering. We didn't have the lesson that day and we were happy but at the same time sad because our teacher was coming back to the hospital with her mother. The mother died 2 days after next to the gypsy family
Personal experience, a group of travellers used a car park just a couple of streets away. They cut the fence of a daycare and used it to dump their trash and waste until police put a squad car on the concerned street. They were moved out by police (almost forcefully) after they had too many communal and business complaints lodged against them.
You can take this marginalised victim shit, photography is amazing btw, and forget it for this group of folks.
My experience with them hasn't been too nice I'll tell ya that
I worked in two shops when I was younger, a supermarket and clothing shop. In both instances we had problems with travelers stealing. Just the other day, I saw a traveler child steal a toy out of a charity shop, and the parent just let it happen. I also have first hand accounts of travelers being antisocial and aggressive towards the public, in a completely unprovoked manor. Hard to have sympathy with people like that. I'm sure what I've witnessed doesn't represent all travelers, but I'm yet to have positive experience involving them.
What the fuck do you expect when they have been treated like shit to the point of having a constant need to protect themselves? A lot of people eventually give into the stereotypes put on them when nobody gives them a chance to begin with. After several years it ends up being all that they know
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Can't excuse it with that, no one is stopping the children from getting an education and job other than their own families. They don't steal because everyone dislikes them, everyone dislikes them because they steal (and fight, and treat their women like shit)
the i phones are stolen hagaha
Ireland was a British colony hagaha
@jode not funny
i cant decide on a name making fun of travellers on a video discussing the issues they face is funny but the fact that Ireland was colonised way before your time is forbidden to joke about?
@@icantdecideonaname Well I'm from the Indian subcontinent where children are still dying thanks to the British Empire. Anyways its so funny Ireland was 800 years British property the northern Ireland still haha
@@travelleryu yeah, *was* :D
Not all travellers are like that
Never met an honest traveller.
stereotypes don't come from no where, they look dirty to me
Persecuted? Maybe if they didn't try to steal everything that wasn't bolted down, or fight anyone that even glances their way, or tidied up after they squat illegally on land, people would be more tolerant of them, and they wouldn't get the bad rep they deserve.
Im sorry but im an Irish traveller and it's not stereotypes we bare Knuckle alot, alot of people do iligeal things, not all of us are bad but it's a broad statement to say we're persecuted and struggling because we're doing fine
It’s funny how a real travellers opinion gets no likes or comments and the white knights “protecting” them get thousands of views
My parents, when I was a kid, told me to never talk to a gypsy (or "Irish Traveler" as you call it) because all they cause is trouble. They literally park wherever they want or in a gypsy site! They leave so much mess that I'm not surprised that the riot police in Essex got rid of them! They follow no law.
fuck that id tell my kid to make friends with all the gypsies at school
@@AlfredTheBrave He'd just get bullied by them.
@@DennisRay99 not if he can fight mate
@@AlfredTheBrave He'd have to fight like Chuck Norris in his prime. These guys have a hive mind. They run in packs and have that gang mentality. Just another reason people aren't fond of their "traditional lifestyle."
I agree. Never interact with them.
I do sympathise with the Irish, as well as fellow British people suffering at the hands of these criminals. Both the UK and Ireland just fall victim to the waves of these criminals, stopping on people's privately owned land then leaving it in a state...stealing internet cabling, pets, possessions...they're even crap drivers with their white vans!
U want respect, you have to give respect.
Travellers are violent criminals not a persecuted group.
it's a interesting video and i'm sure there is a lot of good and bad in all groups of people. That being said we had some "Irish travelers" move through town a few months back. They broke drown a iron fence and moved on to a park which is part of a primary school. it was about a month before they left. The grass was destroyed, turned up by the 10 to 15 caravans that had parked on the football pitches for the children's Sunday league games. There was an gigantic amount of litter all over the park. when it was gathered together there must have been 5 or 6 piles about 4ft high. It took weeks to put things back to the way they were before. Unfortunately they had only moved ten minutes up the road to another park and did much the same there. I liked the video and welcome the opportunity to see things from a new perspective but this video may have been a little one sided that's all. keep at it though seeker I love your work.
I remember that one of our teachers arrived at classroom after visit her mother from hospital and she was tired. Then she started to tell us that his mother were sharing the room with a gypsy and that all the family of the gypsy were there in the room, like 12 members and that they were using the private bathroom even to have a shower. She tried to move her mother but the hospital was full so she was with her mother in silence, waiting to her mother die while the gypsy family was all the time bothering. We didn't have the lesson that day and we were happy but at the same time sad because our teacher was coming back to the hospital with her mother. The mother died 2 days after next to the gypsy family
You see who ever that teacher was she don't under stand ús travelers care for our parents that's why they were all there waiting for there mother and travelers had hard life's they lived in triallers none like ye
@@michaelmaughan8724 get a job
@@michaelmaughan8724 my mother works for the council ye refused to take any house offered
@@tiernanoneill989 because yee wont offer good houses we wont take a house if its not fixed right
Maybe there's a reason for the prejudice against Irish travelers.
They dont want to work and pay taxes
They are claiming thousands euros a month in benefits and not paying rent
It’s always for “no reason” that people are prejudice.
😁😂😂
O there’s a reason we’re hated
As others have mentioned, though you can't generalise an entire group of people, stereotypes exist for a reason.
I live in a fairly rural area and, two or 3 times a year, we have large groups of travellers moving onto farmers fields (refusing to leave), stealing things from peoples gardens, shops, building sites etc., and starting fights. I've had some really unpleasant encounters with traveller men and children; they are typically very aggressive people.
But what u don’t understand not every traveler is the same if a black person stole some thing, would u assume that every black Person steals? no so don’t assume all travelers do the same thing
@@Idk-pc2di I mean, that's literally what I'm getting at. How many interactions have you had with travelers?
That's your negative reason, sausage
Wow. The government should take their children away from them. Seriously. They're not just wasting their lives, but also wasting their kids'.
Not necessarily mate it's all about surviving and there kids have to learn how to survive for themselfs for 14 onwards that's why there taken out of school so early ,
Control Theory you dumb ass 😂😂
Fuck tha government and pigs
People like you who advocate taking children just because their parents don't live like you are dangerous.
@@anonymous-xl4px it's about stamping out an underbelly. These people don't have the same values as us, they don't believe in hard work and decency. If they can't live like the rest of us then we should drive them out.
Irish are nice people
mayank sharma go back to your country muslim
go back to your country hindu
mayank sharma thankyou for the compliment
Irish and Irish Travellers are very different.
They are not Irish
People in this comment section are like “Irish travellers don’t face discrimination!” and then go on a long racist rant about how much they hate travellers.
We have good reason to hate them. That's like an organised criminal gang started stealing stuff from you on a regular basis, would you not hate them.
Mr Irish I am fully aware of the excuses people use to justify their hate, don’t worry.
@@jaksida300 Excuses me arse. It's fair judgement. Their lucky that they're not sanctioned worse for their actions.
@@mrrooter3630 Ah yes because it's reasonable to hate an entire ethnic minority based on negative interactions (and in most cases stories heard about negative interactions) with a few of that minority. Apologies for ever calling it an excuse.
@@jaksida300 you see the problem is when you go to ask them to distinguish which one of them is after committing the crime or causing hassle the refuse to do so. They have no one to blame but themselves. The term as thick as thieves is really fitting for them.
they don't show them in Ireland for some reason
Whilst some maybe decent and loyal people unfortunately there's a large amount of travellers who do an immense amount of damage to local communities. In the U.K if I'm being honest on the list of social injustices, Irish travellers aren't going to be that high up on the list of what we need to solve. Even when they come to school it is sometimes met with threats, damage and all round a bad environment deserve to be treated with respect but most haven't even attempted to earn the respect
But why do they have to earn respect just because of who they were born as!? theres good an bad in every one u wouldn’t expect other minorities to earn your respect
The reason they started living in the U.K. because most of the people in Ireland hate them. This did not fairly represent travellers. In Ireland they are a nuisance and a disgrace, causing only trouble. And after they leave a town in a right mess they just up and leave, leaving the people of the town to clean up their mess. My personal experience with travellers has been nothing but horrible. I have been mugged , and my house has been burgled.
I had these 'Irish travellers' in my town and they were a pain in the ass. All they do is build stuff on the cheap, not pay taxes and live in car parks and fields
From my personal experience most travellers will park there camper vans designated spots that aren't theirs or will try to fight you. I had an experience when I was fucking 4 and a 3 year old traveller tried to fight me.
Why don't they just get a fucking job and proper housing?
It's not prejudice. It's like saying "gravity is attractive" or "water tends to be wet"... if we all have experience that is consistently negative then it's a philosophical obligation to draw the most logical inference. It's like saying people are prejudice against fire because there's this insistence that fire burns..
Try NOT talking with them -- just go around, following some. Watch how they interact in areas. They leave every place dirtier and worse than when they arrived - and I'm being generous.
there's a reason they're being stereotyped... no tears for them whatsoever
I'm completely conflicted with the contents of the video and the comments. But I do have some reservation. Do note I don't even live or had gone to Europe let alone the UK. If the Irish Travellers are nomadic and such, how are they able to afford those Iphones and their events (that goes on for days). And why only the photojournalist is the one speaking.
I feel there's more to the story here. Well definitely see there's still incomplete story about this.
They burgle money
*_If they didn't leave rubbish everywhere and want to fight everyone people would be more sympathetic_*
Everything in their trailers was covered in plastic ?... oh so they are actually Italian Americans from South Philly
That's what I was thinking! LMFAO!
@@Katiemadonna3 it's very true everything usually is covered in plastic they are very proud of there caravans
I like how the seeker narrator is completely natural yet the main narrator is really biased.
i had no prejudice at all also because I used to live in italy and when they were coming into my shop i can tell you they weren't pleasant at all.
harassing my customers harassing me trying nicking stuff
had to kick them out many many times
saw them around the high street being cocky and rude to people whom were minding their business
they got neglected when they were young they grew up and since they able to go around in groups they don't know the rules and they think they can do what they want.
im sorrry but im not buying the story that they polite because i think they quite naughty.
They really are. No matter how decent anyone is to them they still harass them. The saddest part of all this is that they get away with it. You can't touch them because some idiot has made them the indigenous people of Ireland. They're a bunch of unpleasant eejits which you clearly have seen first hand. Anyone here who supports them is either one of them or has yet to meet one in person.
@@mrrooter3630 I've met quite a few and they were all lovely people.
@@anonymous-xl4px you must be one.
@@mrrooter3630 I am not one I'm only 1/4 Irish and not a traveller. But have met many lovely ones, their mannerisms are different but they are generally nice chatty people. They have a unique and interesting culture that has a lot that is admirable, shame you can't see that.
@@anonymous-xl4px I can see the fee descent ones and have shared a point and bought many things from decent ones and they'd even tell you that there are a lot of lads in the traveller community you can't trust. One said that their nearly like tribes and there are decent ones and ones who's community is full of thieves.
Randomly shoved in a pool by them on Christmas eve in London.. fully clothed, then they destroyed things in the hotel lobby and when cops showed up assaulted a police officer and were all acting like victims.
2 night in a row cops were called Christmas eve and Christmas in front of their many children.
See so I was at a hotel and didn't assault anyone and just acting like a decent person. Cops didn't arrest or harass me. Weird.
You receive the energy you give into the world. Act with human decency and be treated as such.
Im an Englishman live in a house im all for the travlers they live the right way thats how we should all be living travlers come on our parks regular i always go over and welcome them its the people that run this world you wana change.
Why do the Travelers not follow rule of law? This story is embarrassing to the journalist.
When my husband and I were on a group travel to ireland we passed a traveller camp on the side of the road. Our tour guide told us to stay away from them because they would rob us and maybe hurt us. That might not be fair but there may be some truth to it. I havent heard many positive things about travellers
It's very true unfortunately it's not racism it's their culture to be like this
But you like the UK that killed millions of millions of Irish people and even speak english whilst paying heed to rumours about minorities that have zero veracity. Please learn something from Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose that kicked the British out of Bharat during WW2 using stones and sticks.
@@travelleryu who was talking about the UK
@@robertbyrne592 I am giving an analysis. Its double standards when you don't dislike the UK for their crimes but hate on minorities for miniscule theft.
@@travelleryu I'm from Ireland and I know all about it but what you're saying is completely unrelated
I'm not from the UK so take this with a grain of salt. But I think not being able to read in a highly developed country is a pretty big deal. Do their kids go to school? You could argue not giving your kids an education is a form of child abuse.
As bad as they are.
Here is an honest question.
How many of you Cheer on Tyson Fury when he fights?
The man is the Pride of Great Britain and...........an Irish Traveler.
Not me since I never heard of him
Also let's not mention that you also only lectured about the police in the UK, because in Americans minds Irish people who also suffer these fools can do no wrong, even though the Irish police get brutal in some cases.
Wanderer628 i dont understand the comment and im irish
The Garda can get way more brutal and horrible than British police despite what the video portrays British police as.
Wanderer628 Who cares? The fact is it’s about time something was done about this “problem”. They are hated throughout the UK and ROI. I think the British and Irish police should be allowed to go further. Getting all upset because she didn’t mention the force used by Irish police is missing the point. I’m not usually the “flog em and hang em” type but in this case I think it’s kind of necessary. Btw, the Irish police have their hands tied too, they are being crippled by the current PC sensitivity - every Irish person knows there are obvious genetic differences that explain why they behave the way they do but if you say it publicly you might get into trouble these days.
They need to pay taxes like the rest of us! They need to stop squatting on public property and destroying perfectly nice parks. They also need to learn to stop dumping their rubbish where ever they damn please and be responsible for themselves in society.
Travelling people do themselves no favours to be fair.
I lost my wallet .i had 700 pound in it.. and my credit cards..driving licence.etc..i was devastated..until next day a traveller pulled up to my house and handed me my wallet with nothing missin..i offered him.100..and he would not take it..so no there not all bad.
BULL SHIT///
most blatant lie ive ever seen
@@AlfredTheBrave blatant lie = British Empire.
just for reference I left my wallet on a site at work with travellers and they didnt steal any money but they went thru it and found some valium pills n took some lol
liar
I feel if you are going to do this story you have to look at more than one group and look at both the positives and negative, why do people dislike them? This is all missing here 0.1% of the population of England and Wales are Gypsy, Romany or Traveller but they make u 5% of the prison population. Personally I do lack a lot of sympathy with my family having been robbed by a group for over £50,000 and our house now having CCTV around it, which does not stop them coming up our lane and checking out or house. I am sure not all members of the community are bad, but a significant proportion are and that can't be ignored.
Statistics like that are indicative of over-policing, persecution and discrimination against a minority just as much as they might indicate a minority is more criminal. Also note that being persecuted and discriminated against erodes trust in the society and establishment that is ostracising, hence leading to more crime and anti-social behaviour.
Persecuted??😒
I think you mean CONVICTED.🤔
I admire their family values which are ignored too often nowadays . They are devout Catholics and they work hard . Thank you for the video 🙂
Their family values consist of having ten kids before marriage, taking girls out of school as soon as possible and marrying them off to some fat ass abusive scumbag to have more kids with.
VintageLJ the majority of them are family men who work hard for their wife and kids . As having lots of kids that's because they are Catholic. Just because you don't agree or understand that doesn't mean you are right and they are wrong . It's people full of prejudice like you that makes them defensive.....
Working hard to steal copper wire from free housing. This actually happened.
They don't work hard to stop defecating. In public places and letting others clean their mess up.
Loulou La Petite Renarde Look you clearly don’t live on the British isles so let me tell you why we hate them. I’ve lived in both England and Ireland, so I have my fair share of stories. They are thieves, they cause havoc in peaceful areas, they leave all their rubbish behind on public property, they don’t pay any taxes, they just settle on public property like it’s their land, they steal dogs for dog fights and they damage local property. When I lived in Ireland they literally stole all the lead from the church (graves and everything). If they really had a heart they wouldn’t do that, they are just scum nobody likes them and you don’t live here so you have no say. Stop feeling sorry they bring it upon themselves. End of story.
They do leave a mess everyone they go
I've heard nothing but mostly negative things about them from my Irish friends.
It's always how racist the settled community are towards the travelling community from whatever country they are from but never highlights how racist the travelling community are to the settled. Respect works both ways. If a person doesn't respect me then why should I respect them. I don't care what there background is, give respect, get respect. There are scammers from all walks of life but if a person has a bad experience with a particular community then they will never trust that community. Certain communities are not held accountable for their actions and that's what pisses a lot of people off.
My workes at a business and it has a carpark, one morning he arrived and it was full of travellers in expensive cars and children running everywhere, non of the staff could park and they refused to leave. After a couple days the police told them the had to leave but they only full their cars with as little petrol as possible because they used that excuse not to leave so the council had to pay for all their cars to be refuelled. They moved away but not far, and my dad and many of the people who worked there discovered piles of human shit round the back of their building. The company installed a barrier on the carpark and every day somebody parks their car next to the entrance just enough so a caravan couldn't get through and this was no waited effort as weeks later they tried again. Do not tell me these people are 'the cleanest people I've known' or some shit they are dirty people who sponge of society without contributing anything to it.
Also that 'eviction' thing in essex was because they where illegally occupying private land, they have no right to be there
Also the 'brutal police' you can se in the photo where nearly with bricks and molotov cocktails
these people have almost killed my granddad and my best friend in an attempt to rob them
Black Acid Gaming they robbed my friend and his grandad caught them my friend cane out and they tried to say it was their tools and then tried to sell the tools back to him
The British Empire did the same thing, albeit ×1000000 in scale to the people of Ireland, though I find it strange that the British Empires atrocities are somewhat condoned by the people of Ireland but what the Irish travellers did, not.
@@travelleryu thats the shittiest argument ive probably ever heard lmao
@@__________2756 Argument? British Empire murdering 60% of the population of Ireland is a fact. No wonder why Ireland continues to speak english whilst we desi people bask in our 5000 year old culture, language after bravely ousting the colonialists out by ourselves together with Germany, Japan through our hero Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose unlike a certain nation whose northeastern part is still occupied.
Did the Irish traveller moved back to in 2023
I support Irish Travellers
Why
please put your address up so the gypsies can come visit you ,,narrr you talk shite
Me too
I like how most the comments are just people saying they had bad experiences with travellers and thats why there all bad I mean Ive had bad experiences with country people (non-travellers) and I don't think there all bad I just think that some of them are bad
I have met a lot of travellors in my time. They were all the same. Absolute scumbags robbing people, Scamming, Breaking stuff, living off the state etc.
Yes, but the difference is that barely anyone has ever had any non-bad experience with them. That's the troubling part. We all have had bad experiences with just about any group on the planet, but we've had far more pleasant ones, that's what makes us believe that the shit people are just a minority. But when barely anyone *ever* has non-bad experiences with groups like Irish travelers, Roma etc. it's hardly any wonder why they end up getting a bad reputation...
If there were so many good ones among them, you'd think people would meet those good ones once in a while...
They are actually such vile creatures
human turds with an I Q of a rabid dog,,
There are 4 types of Travellers, Irish Travellers, Highland Travellers, Showmen Travellers and Romani Travellers.
Ya forgot "New Age Travellers"
The Hippies in Vans
Yea I live beside travelers and it's none stop fighting and screaming and violating the law
Yea I live beside Ireland and it's none stop fighting screaming praising criminal British empire
@@travelleryu have you actually been to ireland???
@@m1scy194 No but I really want to I have a good friend whose Irish
What's your opinion on the British Empire btw
the flat out hate in these comments is disgusting
Save your bs for people who live in leafy suburbs ...and don't interact with them .
Thank you for this story, as I have had no previous knowledge of these peoples existence.
Jackfish The 6th the story isn't true and paints the riot police as bad guys even though the travelers had slaves
Read the comments and the amount of people who had things stolen from them and the amount of people who got the shit kicked out of them. Even as a 13 year old I have had at least 10 travellers try to fight me for no reason.
I grew up a "Traveller" moving around the British Isles until I was 18, our people followed the work at festivals like Glastonbury and seasonal picking etc. The term "Irish Traveller" doesn't represent Travellers, who are just British people seeking another way of life. Those folk seem more like Gypsies. There are subtle differences - Few, if any, "Travellers" live on the local authority sites reserved for Romani/Gypsy, Scottish Gypsies/Irish Gypsies.
While Travellers/New age Travellers tend to value education, quality of life and the environment. Choosing to live in forests or national parks and taking part in peace convoys, stop the war protests or environmental causes. Gypsies like the folk in this tend to live on reserved sites, road sides or outskirts of towns - Basically nomadic Chavs
You miss the whole point. It's not about some hippies bored with life spending the cash of their parents and smoking weed. The Irish Travellers are a people that have refused to integrate into the law-abiding society for thousands of years and they give other every reason to hate them.
Hippy new agers aren't even Gypsies or an ethnic group
Henry you’re a Hippy not a Traveller.
The only true Travellers in the U.K. and Ireland are Romanichal Travellers, Irish Travellers, Scottish Travellers and Showmen Travellers.
In the UK there Irish Travellers and Romanichal Gypsies.
Also new age travellers are just poor hippies who are drug addicts that are stupid and live in the back of their vans
To Romanichal Gypsies, all non-Gypsies are Gorgers
(Gorger is the Angloromani Gyosy word for non-Gypsy)
Is this an April Fool joke? What next - a video sympathetic to the Moors Murderers?
this video is so biased because they come to a place e.g the were in an aldi car park they only left until law came into play
They're an ethnic group now? I don't think an ancestry test would make any distinction between Irish heritage and Irish traveler heritage. Seems like settled Irish folk are too proud to admit that they share the same roots as travelers lol.
They are legally a seperate etnic group which they campaigned for recognition of
@@pinderbupinder1598 But unlike Gypsies who can trace their ancestry back to Northern India, travelers are 100% European unless I'm mistaken.
Thieves
No one is gonna read this but I am a traveller and I admit there is many bad people in my culture . Tbh the things they do are sickening to me . But there Is bad people in every culture and belief , if you actually go out and become friends with a traveler they will be there for the rest of your life becuse all we have been learned is ride or die. Most of us has all grown up with people being prejudice most are still mad. But the ones who aren't are the travellers you see feeding the homeless, going to holy countrys, trying to educate children is a way there not dissing there culture but still leaning ( I'm 15 I get home schooled 1 a week) most girls in my area do aswell. I dont live in a trailer my dad owns a travler sight it's so safe people walk there dogs and bring them here so the kids who are playing outside can play with them.
One thing about my culture is my family dont think getting married at 16 is right my full family dont . My dad bought me a car and said ino your not old enough to drive it but live your life like your sister who got married at 19 . 19 seems young to non travlers but to us that's a bonus . We don't arrange marriages becuse love is love. One thing country people need to experience is bieng on a green field in the summer all the dogs a loose and you and all your friends theres 15 of us walking to the shop.
All I have to say is theres more to my culture:)
God bless all of you prejudice people
I wrote this fast so If its messy sorry
The problem with travellers is that they live up to their stereotypes which doesn't make their life easier
As a fresh-off-the-boat immigrant to the UK, I've only had two racial encounters. Both of them were from the Irish Travellers.
Calm down comments! Don't you realize that violence doesn't justify violence on either side? Regardless of who they are, insulting them and attacking them won't help resolve underlying issues.
Ok if someone tried to fight you because you were trying to leave a park you would probably not like them. Now that except with a lot more violence
Well ..in my home town(arklow,Co.wicklow) all the travellers are dirty knackers.They steal,litter/pollute and are rude af.they live illegally at an abandoned plaster factory which they claim is their land. The father abuses his children and his wife. we often get threatened by them also. The people living a bit away from them are acc pretty nice, me and a couple other lads, we were exploring the place and an old man approached us.we had no where to run as we were trapped by surrounding walls. The lad seemed pretty sound and just came over to make sure we aren't lighting fires. He spoke to us how he ended up on the move due to the recession and how he makes his living. He said that a good bit of them have moved into council houses. However A nearby council estate is known for its drugs habits, I have many friends living there and about half the houses are full druggies. There is significantly less travellers now days as we are climbing out of the recession. I can see why people have made a stereotype as such.
Same in galway except toned down a lot
If they're persecuted it's because they deserve it.
Holy smokes this is fascinating. Never been to Ireland before, and never knew these people existed!
READ THE COMMENTS
You never seen one on a roundabout 🤣🤣
In the UK each experience I've had with travelers has been terrible. There needs to be a movement wherever these people infest to get them out.
Thing is everywhere they go crime and scams soar it until a coincidence.
I fought a traveler once. Biggest scumbag I’ve ever known in my life. I gave him a black eye in front of everyone in my whole class and I was shocked that 20 others didn’t want my scalp. This video is just pure propaganda.
To all the ignorant people settled Irish people and other Britons, Irish travellers are good people if you get two known them personally, we have own our culture, we was the first people on these lands so learn some ancient history and wisen up
Manchester paddys No. You don’t have any knowledge, just “folklore”. What “culture” do you have? Taking advantage of others? Terrorizing the elderly and vulnerable? Being generally disgusting? Thinking you’re entitled to tax payers money and shamelessness? No. You have contributed nothing to Ireland, that’s why Irish people despise you. What am I saying? Everyone despises you.
I pulled a gypsy bird last night, she asked did I wanna come back to hers for a good time.....she wasn't fucking kidding i went on the dodgems, waltzers, ghost train and came home with a goldfish.
r/thathappened
Ye all really hating on Irish travelers yes maybe some of them can be a lot but also I’m sure so can ye you can’t hate on them because of only the few you barley met
In the case of Dale Farm the travelers started hurling rocks at the police before they even started evicting them.
William Martin evicted my hole they had no right to be there in the first place I feel bad for dale
Irish-American here, while this seems nice she is trying to be understanding of these fascinating people, but from the comments I see from folks living in Ireland, i take it a lot of the stereotypes are warranted.
@@Sepheryn oh totally I'm sure, and all my cousins have been back a bunch of times, I'm like the only one who hasn't and they have said they heard stories of them a lot.
Like this Irish gal who does youtube ended up in Compton when she visited LA 😝, and she said her life was threatend by multiple people who did not look like her if you catch my drift haha, if you know anything about the famous rough suburb of Compton near LA this rings true and just isn't a stereotype, but of course when they said they were Irish girls just like that everyone treated them like new shinny objects and were nice, but the folks there new better to know regular white girls would go to Compton with anything else in mind then to see how shitty it is. But there have been movies about it a famous album about Compton, so I don't know how she couldn't have known it was a gang infested shithole lol