Pioneer Lines New Corporate Image ND&W Railroad PREX 3001 Napoleon Defiance & Western Bad Track
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- PREX 3001 in Pioneer's newest livery works on the Napoleon Defiance and Western Railway. Pioneer Railcorp recent changed their official name to Pioneer Lines and with that comes a new image! They used PREX 3001 which has been on the property several years running around in a tired Santa Fe livery. I've heard different opinions on new scheme but I personally like it. They didn't just regurgitate a past livery like the overused NKPish style used frequently by railroads. Also the paint style continues onto the roof giving this a good look all the way around.
I followed the train from Napoleon through Okolona and past Jewell before calling it a day. They have been working hard putting in new ties and ballast. Somewhere they have 10 miles of new rail to install but I did not witness that on this visit. Still got a unhealthy lean to the north in a few places!
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They still have a lot of work to do, but it's awesome seeing what great progress they've made over the last few years. And now with a new paint scheme, they are really starting to look like a right and proper shortline business.
Things are looking good, once they get new rail on the new ties the track will look straighter. At least if they level it right…
@@ScottTaipaleRail Yes, the progress has been impressive. It must be remembered that a railroad contracting outfit is doing the work.
They come such a long way! The new livery looks great! Seems like Pioneer is taking pride in things.
Yes it’ll be great when everything looks like the defiance yard and this engine
The tracks look better than before they have been working on them
i was going to say that
A rail line is only as good as its track.
Wow, I'm really amazed that the time of the bad tracks is probably coming to an end so slowly with this train. They have invested a lot in new tracks. And the new color scheme looks really good. Thank you for this Video. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven
16yrs ago those tracks were completely overgrown by trees etc in some parts of the tracks ppl used too put cj jeeps on the tracks and drive a mile or 2
Thank you for watching! They don’t look like an abandoned line anymore
@@ScottTaipaleRail Yes, slowly the ugly duck becomes a beautiful swan.
THOSE TRACKS!!!! I don't see how it doesn't derail!
Love this old short line. Pure small town Americana.
The new paint scheme looks decent and is a bit like the first Reading and Northern. That is a really neat old elevator in scene 2. Glad to see some progress on the tracks though that one siding looks better than the main line. For a line in an agricultural area it's rare to see an all boxcar train
I’d like to see what the elevator used to look like
I don't think that elevator was grain-related. There used to be a nearly identical one in Ionia, Michigan. It was retail a coal storage and distribution business.
@@lhale1831 thanks for the comment and possible.ID I grew up in Milwaukee and all the coal yards had large 1920s or so concrete solos. Out in the country they had a long tall trestle and it went on the ground or in a wooden crib/shed. One agricultural elevator that's rare are the type made out of baked sewer clay in a dark brown. Sharp!
The Gettysburg locomotive is on the western section with flatbed cars of rail. It still looks like it went through the civil war. The old Santa Fe had a single car of rails .
Nice video
I’d love to shoot one of their mofw moves
I just glad to see they are making progress. I noticed a bunch of track laying along the Jewell elevator. Boy they need to get a siding back in there to move grain! When I was a kid the lines had been abandoned, and to see freight go down the lines is great. Its not every day a track is resurrected from the dead. Good work.
I seen the Woodburn "western" portion had new rail waiting for installation!! Last 2 weeks they were working near the diamond in Defiance
I assumed the new rail was being installed on the western end of ND&W. Pioneer lines did an interview with Paulding County Business Weekly discussing the improvements and that locals should be aware of the crossings because the trains will moving much faster.
there approving something in Paulding County that's news... as long as they don't get rid of the old vehicles sitting around randomly
I hear the new rail is going in between Defiance and Cecil, Lafarge can only get 263000 cars currently.
@@ScottTaipaleRail That would make sense and would allow the Lafarge traffic east to CSX at Defiance. It was my understanding that for a number of years they didn't even attempt to go east of Cecil.
Excellent Scott, love the new livery and watching the Progress 😉 of this Shortline. I can't get enough of this Shortline or the Wabash Central... Hint.. Hint 😉👍
This is one of your best videos! All of the different camera angles is incredible!
godbless usa whit those beautiful train tracks
The work they've done between Defiance and Cecil is amazing! I never thought I'd see the rails straight again! Thank you for the video!
Scott, you make the best videos! I live 15 minutes from the Union Railway Museum and I have only been there once . I will be there next spring.
The shot starting at 5 minutes in looks like it belongs in a Train Simulator game
That track starting at 12:00 is incredible. Even with what appear to be new ties inserted.
The new locomotive is handsome.
I like the new livery. I hope they can improve the rails faster than the swamp can eat them.
That remains to be seen. I think they’ll still sink since the sub road bed is still the same
I like the new paint scheme. Another great video. The pacing shots with the drone are cool. Thanks!
Holy cow! That track is so much better. Watching the locomotive NOT rolling in all three axis with movement! Amazing!
Wow, nice to see investment going into the line.
This locomotive has a great paint job. Filmed very nicely. Greetings from Germany
Reminds me of the W&LE at start up. You almost had to wear helmets when the engineer fell asleep and the engine started to speed up. Love the sound of stick rail, don't like the idea of the cars rocking like this. Someone needs to tell them to contact a class 1 railroad and ask them for their old ribbon rail!
You are not kidding about BAD TRACK. I like the color of this engine.
That is an awesome paint scheme!
Now THOSE tracks look like my layour trackage.... therefore, I AM prototypical ... kinda, sorta, maybe....
I want to do a prototype section of really bad track!
@@ScottTaipaleRail I got cheap plywood, for the basement .... OH DUH !!!! Of course it is gonna be all jumblie and jigglie....
3:45 "Rough Crossing" sign. Even the vehicle crossings are bad on the ND&W!
Cracking up with all the “track looks better” comments! Only thing I see different is that they covered up the horrible track with ballast on top. No tamping. Rails just as crooked as ever, the cars are wobbling like a fat person on a flight of stairs! If nothing else, this stretch of railroad has always been good for comedy!
still runs much faster than they used to
Faster yes but about 20 minutes between crossings.
Scott you sure know how to fly! The pacing is superb!
Thanks for this video. I love this line, hope it does well!
I hope they don't derail and scratch up that new paint job. Excellent video!
They’ve finally cleared back the hanging trees so that should help.
In some of those bad spots, I'm surprised they didn't go on the ground! Love your video and that paint scheme is great too!!
Very Cool!! Thank you for posting!!
Thank you
I remember driving along US 24 in Ohio last November. I noticed they had placed a lot of ties and track along the right of way. The next year (2022) I noticed they did track work. Talk about major improvements.
Looking good.
I have to say, that's looking a lot better than 5 years ago.
Love the new livery! Another great video,as always,
Thank you
I like to see the old Geeps! Nice video of the ND&W.
Thank you
I love the new paint job
For sure
Excellent video Scott. Great scenes. I shot 3001 a week before they painted it. Gotta get back.
Cool new look. they are clearly doing much needed track work. Greetings from Saint John NB home of NB Southern railway.
Love short lines.
Awesome new coat of paint on that freight train looks amazing.
Sure does!
Be sure to stop by the bar in Okalona for some of the best wings around! Not overpriced, either. And if you go on taco night, you only need to order one taco- they're huge.
Great stuff, Scott .... keep up the good work...
Thank you!
Great video, I liked the mix of the drone and hand held filming. Keep up the great job
Thank you!
I like the new colors, very cool!!
That drop off @13:25 looks like a roller coaster! That track is a mess.
Very wavy, sinking into a swamp
3001 looks so much better than b4. The numbers r readable. N when they light up in the dark, everyone can see them.
Great video Scott!!!
Thank you
@@ScottTaipaleRail You're welcome!!
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Very nice
Nice video! Some of the short lines really have nice looking vintage locomotives! Other, not so much.
Great video, +
Thank you
You can tell it's a short line railroad, the locomotive is clean. Notch 8..............
Awesome video thank you.
Thank you for watching
It has been a while since I have commented. Great video as always. I love that new image, especially the nose, is awesome. Thank you, for another good one. I have one question, are they operating with a one-man crew?
Thank you for commenting. Yes he was running one man. Another crew came and did the switching at Napoleon before he pulled the train. I think it’s how they get by on less.
I never heard of Pioneer Lines before. They might as well call it the Napoleon Railway with their logo being the Tricolor and a silhouette of the emperor's trademark hat, lol!
Very Nice Video Scott!
Thank you
I'm a mode railroader and I wish this locomotive was able to be purchased to run on my layout. The majority of the locomotives I have to run are short line trains.
Isn't it about time they spent some money and improved the track? Wouldn't they make more money if their trains went faster as a result of the improvements in the track?
They've made huge improvements. Check out some of Scott's videos from 7-8 years ago on this line.
The improvements to the the track structure is the first step, slows the money wasted on retailing derailment, and less car damage. Next step would be heavier rail for fully loaded rail movements. Speed is the last thing to worry about.
I will watch this video! However, I am sad to see this "Santa Fe" loco repainted! Did they have two ATSF colored GP20s? If so, is the other one still in "Bluebonnet" colors? hope so! I been trying to get the ATSF locos for years! I hope there will be another chance and that there is one remaining!!!!
RJ
What a lovely relaxing jewel video you made Scott. Nice blue sky above a gentle rural surrounding. Just the sound of that slow peace train with fresh paint loco. Superb drone shooting from above or preceding the train. Everything is slow and a real joy to watch the funny team betwen snaky rails and dancing boxcars.
Why been in a hurry with a faster train ? To save on crew wages and burn more fuel ? "Dog and butterfly" said the song. Why not "train and butterfly" ?
Nice to hear that they're in process of laying down new rail... Got in an debate with a guy about using plastic ties on these short lines made out of recycled plastic and maybe used rail from a class 1 railroad. Would be better than this crap - Fresh rail, fresh ties... Part of a government program.
Perhaps this railroad will be able to take it vantage of some money from the build back better legislation
@@JamesTyreeII If we had a smarter, more mentally capable president and politicians, that would be ideal... However, these idiots can't even fix our border. Plus, the rest of the pigs will waste the money on some silly pork projects. Note, I'm neither Republican or Democrat...
@@JungleYT We do have a smarter and mentally capable president. President Biden is not an idiot. I can’t say the same about you.
@@JamesTyreeII You're right, he's a genius of a President... Like I said, I'm NON-partisan..I pretty much hate ALL politicians. You evidently are not bright enough to catch my drift...
@@JungleYT I didn’t say he was a genius. I just disclaimed your claim which is in accurate. And I am most certainly bright enough. You’re not bright enough to realize that you’re wrong
Trains look to be getting longer
Great video!
Yet another great video...
Love the new livery!
Do you think before long they may be able to increase line speeds to above that of an elderly lady on a single speed bicycle 🚲? 😀
Nice video!!!
I really do like the new corporate look. But, with this line's terrible track, I feel the money spent on paint could have been far better allocated to some track work.
This doesn’t look like a cheap spray job either
Is there a map somewhere showing where work has been done / still needs to be done? Is work being done first on the worst sections / those with the most traffic?
Wow
This railroad has come a long way and the new paint scheme on the engine is awesome. It's wonderful to see a short line that is starting to thrive again...
Really love the new Pioneer image image,but oh the track is horrendous. How do the locos and wagons remain on them? Here in the UK it would get shut down but regardless of that it still makes for compelling viewing You made a brilliant job in the filming of this railroad, it's absolutely outstanding. Well done you.
Take a look at Pioneer Railcorp's video on the completion of the track rehabilitation project. Next phase is Defiance to Napoleon.
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Nice paint livery. How old are those d tracks the train was traveling on?
I owned some of their stock before they were bought out.
Nice to see crossing signals being installed at Okolona. Even at slow speeds, the field of vision on approach from the one direction is terrible.
I was surprised to see those going up
Awesome video on one sad a$$ rail line!! I love the new paint job, looks very professional.
I forecast 100K hits on this video. Did this replace that old black #7 locomotive?
They haven’t had #7 in years, that has been on the Wabash Central.
@@ScottTaipaleRail thanks for the reply. I looked it up, I think it was actually #8. I got the lines mixed up!
Toddling right along for the old n’ weary NDW. Not a huge fan of SAFETY EFFING YELLOW, but both the hue will mellow with time and wear.
As always, thank you, Scott!
Thank you for watching
Are all the Gp20s repainted to Pioneer lines livery?
Heh. It is so, so weird to see the clamped together rail (I forget what they call it). Sometime ~5 years or so back the rail company in my area decided they were going to start welding the rail ok every section when they replaced it. No more clamped together rail, and the trains go scary fast. But best of all? They are also ghostly quiet. I forget their exact logic behind it, but I kind of suspect part of it was they wanted the local Amtrak lines to get through faster so they were fighting them for rail space less.
As I recall, jointed rail is the term for pre-welded rails…
Much accomplished so far. Any idea how much it costs to rehab a mile of old rail and roadbed?
about 1 Million a Mile there are 3,000 ties in a mile
Thank you GRE for the scoop.
Around $250,000usd for rehab mile according to current projects.
I can't believe it's a video from the 21st century. The only sign is the 4 K resolution.
There’s the Branchline.
So, umm.. Basic question, does the nd&w have access to a tamper? Or ballast regulator with a broom?
We need to save the short lines.
Was this before the track was finally upgraded?
Just watched a clip 8 years ago nothing changed why?
Very cool, I like the new colors on PREX #3001! Also, she has a sweet sounding airhorn too. This GP20 definitely "screams" ex AT&SF if you will. The GP20 was the first EMD "Geep" to have a turbocharged V16-567D Engine, instead of being roots blown. These units were originally manufactured by EMD with a single one piece windshield, while others were built with the "original" high short hood, resembling a GP18. PREX #3001 is likely an ex Santa Fe GP20u, probably been rebuilt by the Santa Fe's Cleburne Texas shops in the late 1970's or early '80s. It appears that Pioneer has done significant trackwork on this line and isn't in that much terrible shape as it was a few years ago. I know this line is an ex Norfolk Southern, ex N&W exx Wabash. The tracks appear to have either 80 Pound per yd or 100 Pound per yd rail, hard to really tell though. Did you ever get any dates on any of the rails? I suspect the rails were probably manufactured roughly a century ago, as this size rail was typically acceptable for most mainline and branch line trackage in the early 20th Century. Stay safe and God bless.
Wheres the conductor? I only see the hog in the engine
That constant rocking back and forth is enough to make me sea sick
My God he crawling
Bad track to be sure but super nice locomotive.
There are a couple of new box cars with NO graffiti!
Inflation - paints are getting more and more expensive.
Oh lord, they are aswell making a simpilfied paint scheme.
PREX GP20#3001