Intimate conversations w/ Jackie Angel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2022
- So we are just so ready to be REAL!! I'm actually not sure if Jackie Francois Angel or I could "pretend to have it all together." We talk about brokenness, healing, marriage, motherhood, breastfeeding, and so many more things. I hope you enjoy this chat. I know I really enjoy having it. The whole thing w/ Among the Lilies is to have these intimate and real conversations. I LOVE when I hear from ladies that almost catch themselves from talking back. I love that you want to join this chat.... please put questions and comments below, and I will do my best to follow up on those when I get more ladies on.
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The movie you’re talking about is “Hacksaw Ridge” and is the true story of Desmond Doss in WWII
That movie was so good! Unbelievable courage and faith!
Yes about we women don't need Exodus 90!! A finally decided to stop beating myself up for struggling to maintain my fasting choices during "that week" every month. Because "that week" is sometimes hell on earth for me. Just existing through it is penance and suffering enough.
Breastfeeding was so painful but once I got the help… it was the most beautiful experience ever. You not only nourished your child in the womb but your body continues to do so out the womb ❤️
I wish this conversation was longer! I enjoyed this sooo much!🥺😫😍
What a gift! What a gift! You ladies being so open and honest about the challenges of parenting is what all young parents need, to remember they're not alone on this journey.
Thank you! 🥰🥰🥰🥰
You ladies are so cool and relatable 😂❤️ the snort laughs, the voice changes, the honest conversation 😍
Love you ladies! This was great and fun :) the co -sleeping, we constantly talk about safe-sleeping and tell women not to co-sleep to prevent SIDS. It’s recommended to have the crib next to your bed, especially up
To 6 months
Ohmigoodnesss….I was cracking up, the hemorrhoid comments, I feel ya sisters!! Lol😂 love these “real” conversations
the movie is Hacksaw Ridge and he was Seventh Day Adventist. Great movie! very moving.
Thank you ladies for keeping it real! Love this conversation.
I really appreciate this episode. I was looking for an uplifting, encouraging Catholic podcast and this really hit the mark. Thank you, Cameron!
More specifically I appreciate you talking real about co-sleeping with nursing! I did that with all four of mine and plan to as well with #5. I tried to "do it right" and keep the baby in the cradle but gave up pretty early on 😅
It makes me so happy to see two beautiful, young and most of all Catholics ladies speak with so much love, faith. Oh. And being real. Love it. God Bless you both and your families
As a new mom, breastfeeding while I watched, I really enjoyed this. Thank you, ladies!
Hacksaw Ridge! :-)
Thanks for this, i'm in between tears and laughter
19:30 💕 that should be a little short clip on its own! I love it ❤
Oh wow, one hour of this feels like 10 mins! We want more, Cameron!!! 😁💕
Quaker possibly?
OMGoodness! Thankyou for your real-ness! I'm a Gran now with 3 little firecracker grands, whom I care for a few times a week, and 2 pubescent ones. Life with them is interesting and I have a LOT of respect for their parents! I do set basic boundaries in my home which I have in common with my daughter and s-i-law ..but I get to "spoil us rotten" [9 yo's satisfied observation😂]..
I so agree on the Exodus for women! Haha thanks Cameron!
This conversation has been very helpful! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I always feel inspired and less lonely to listen to both of you. Thank you for being amazing Mom’s, but overall, living out our Catholic faith fearlessly ❤️
Wish I had girlfriends like you two “irl” ! Loved this conversation and I got a lot of reading/listening ideas from it too!❤
So glad!
The movie is Hacksaw Ridge ❤️
Great honest Mom chat. Really fun listening to you ladies. Thank you for being so open and humble. Desmond Doss, conscientious objector and Seventh Day Adventist, saved about 75 men during WWII. There is a 2004 documentary, The Conscientious Objector, about him that I had the privilege of seeing the very week Mr Doss passed away in 2006. What an honor to learn about this saintly Christian man. Re adults who are monsters, you can't always blame their childhoods. Ted Bundy said don't blame his mother. His serial killing was on him, not his Mom. Some of these creeps choose evil. I talked to an Argentine abortionist socially once. I told him, You did it for the money, didn't you? You knew it was wrong, but you did it anyhow. You need to say you're sorry to God and to the babies you killed. The guy said his heart was burning inside him. I hope he repented. Thank you for this conversation. God bless you.
I just went back to listen to the beginning of this.. Re: therapy ..and trauma and how are bodies respond, etc... I heard about the Souls and Hearts website from Matt [Fradd's] interview with Dr. Gerry Crete. Dr. Crete's colleague, Dr. Peter Malinoski discusses the Internal Family Systems [IFS] model of therapy in his podcast, Interior Integration for Catholics, or IIC [on Souls and Hearts website..start with Episode 71, then Episode 73 for a good introduction to IFS and a discussion as to IFS's compatibility with orthodox Catholicism] ..and within the Resilient Catholics Community [RCC], which Dr. Malinoski pioneered in 2020. I have found IFS to be a very helpful therapeutic model.
I love the fact that you guys talk about this. I always felt like an outsider because I'm very open about my transgressions and my struggles with having children. My oldest is so much like Cameron, fight 1st think later. I already sent her this video she is going to be watching this I hope there's more videos🥰
your daughter sounds lovely!
She's turning out to be a really good girl and my priest yelled at me when I get after her for her attitude which I find astonishing having grown up Southern Baptist girls were not allowed to have attitude.🥰 and thank you
Hi I am her daughter aka nobody. you made my mom cry in the good way. I have to disagree I have too much sarcasm to be lovely.
Hello beautiful ladies I have a little question in advance if possible... My boyfriend of 3 years (we came from a similar background and converted together and although we're not perfect, God has done a miracle bringing together such similar souls and redeeming us and our relationship) recently brought up that he may feel called to a celibate/consecrated life... We are unsure and will be meeting a priest together next week but what kind of advice would you give us in those times please? We want to do the will of God and we know that He has great plans for us but please pray for us... God bless you both
Ave Maria! I had a similar situation. I would suggest doing a 90 day break. (at least, otherwise, I would suggest breakup with no intention to get together again, so he has freedom to discern) In those 90 days, both should pray a 54 day rosary novena AND read “and you are Christs” by Fr. Thomas Dubay. Trust Jesus! He has the BEST plan for your life ❤ surrender. Give it to Him. Run to Mary 💕
This is so interesting! When I was living in sexual sin, my gut issues were so much worse. I thought I was pregnant on various occasions.
This just popped up on my feed. I'm so glad it did... I JUST had my 3rd via my 3rd cesarean... I do not want to stop having kids, at all, like it feels like something is missing if I can't continue. But I can't track anything. I was born with uterus didelphys, so I have two uteruses and two cervixes. I nearly died with each of my children. Fainting after each cesarean and enduring infection after infection. Menses occasionally leads to just mental torment and my hormones go out of whack and at worse extreme depression and extreme anemia which just makes me sick in bed all day. I have 3 children now, so that's not even a thought for me. I homeschool and my oldest has special needs due to being so early, in the NICU, etc. I had extreme preeclampsia. My last ob, which was a woman thank God, expressed that the tissues that they had to cut through was so thin she would not recommend having any more children. I carried two babies in my right uterus and my son in my left. I have two angel babies and my doctor had actually told me when I was 15 that 85-90% of my pregnancies would end in miscarriage or stillbirth. Now we're dealing with possible chromosome abnormalities with my children because of my genes, my daughter might need eye correction surgery the same as I needed, she's 2. And my youngest 3 months, has a rare heart condition called ARSA meaning her artery formed normally but on another part of her heart and can affect things later on. She was so small in utero that she was at risk of stillbirth. I truly believe our lady interceded for us for my baby. Possible heart surgery after birth, possible NICU stay, not being able to nurse... all of it was perfect with her this time around, her heart is still rewired but she's healthy as of right now. A lady prayed to our Lady of le leche for me and I have NEVER been able to fully nurse my other two kids, this time around my baby girl is exclusively bf. Just thinking about the fact that it's real is amazing. What I have, the uterus didelphys, occurs in .3% of people in the world. What my daughter has is just as rare... something is telling me kids could be a possibility in the future. I can't bring myself to tie my tubes or get a hysterectomy for the sake of my health and not leaving my kids orphaned. I want more children.. but I just can't without physically breaking. My husband and I are currently requesting a dispensation from our diocese. My husband says we may not need it, for the use of contraception non aborteficient, because we still want to be open to life. If God wants us to get pregnant again it'll happen either way. I was only able to get pregnant with my first daughter due to using birth control. I hate the risks associated with it. I've asked doctors if my UD can be treated surgically and no one knows how to fix it. Instead they look at the ultrasounds as if I'm some sort of science fiction project... bottom line I know I need to be here for my babies. My husband is scarred after seeing my 2nd ob perform my cesarean... my husband also says in full morality regarding our situation he doesn't believe we're in mortal sin. We're 25. And I've had women tell me you HAVE to lead a josephite marriage, you have no choice, if you don't you're going to hell. When my husband and I entered the Catholic Church the weight of using birth control weighed heavily on me. I had never really been off of it so I thought, you never know maybe you can track? The dysmenorrhea returned, 2 of everything a month or more, it was a nightmare. I ended up pregnant with my 3rd which was an absolute blessing but it proved that we can not track with two sides out of sync and.. it's just a mess... I don't know what another females pov would be on this? I know you guys mentioned hysterectomy. I don't know what to do and went to confession today for using contraception, I just can't help with my body being broken.. it just feels broken. After repeated cesareans. I can feel that I've been cut in half, literally. The scars never fade..I know women have had 8 cesareans and I want to strive to that... but with having two tiny uteruses not one normal one that every other woman has... it's just a lot..
You have three kids at age 25, and very difficult pregnancies & deliveries & recoveries. God bless you! Have you heard of peeing on ovulation strips? I know some ladies who do that to track fertility. You can only get pregnant once a month because you’re still only ovulating once a month, right? Wow sounds rough with all the health issues- do you have a good catholic school option that has an inclusive program for children with disabilities? Maybe you could move jobs/home to be near a school that does. Also do you have help nearby from a mom or sister or aunt? Maybe you could move there. We need help! My mom had 12 and 2 miscarriages. My grandma had 13, one died with whole in heart/Down syndrome as a toddler, she also had miscarriages & back then you waited til the body dispelled them which is scary.
I’ve had problems with recurring mastitis needing antibiotics getting nearly septic poisoning, I’ve had kids close together cuz I can’t keep up breastfeeedin & I’m irregular so I had difficulty tracking ovulation. Never tried the strips. I’m open to life because I can’t get around the idea “before I formed you in the womb I knew you.” God knows. It’s difficult. You need support if you’re going to be faithful! I hope you find it. We can’t do it all alone.
I also had three by 25. Now I’m pregnant with my 7th and 33. It’s a huge unknown- will I have 12 like my mom? Will I suffer scarier deliveries etc? I’ve hemorrhaged at my last three deliveries & had gestational diabetes that I had to control cuz one of mine was 9.5 lbs and should got stuck & miraculously twisted him out before having to break his collar bone, our lady of sorrows intervened when I called out her name. I haven’t gotten pain meds for the last four because the hospital sends me home so I wait in the lobby now- the nurses never believe when I say the baby’s coming because I dilate from 5-10 all of a sudden. My husband caught the last one… not fun when all the nurses are rolling their eyes and you’re screaming for the doctor.
Would've loved to have natural deliveries! Cesareans are not fun, and there's always a limited number to how many you can get...tracking ovulation, Catholic school, and child care is just too expensive for us.
Hacksaw Ridge, the movie's called Hacksaw Ridge.
You two are hilarious 😂😂
I loved this conversation! 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
14:06 Jackie's life flashed before her eyes lol
Oh no, Cameron, I started my marriage at a 34DD...we're only on baby number 1, but I laughed when you said your boobs just got smaller after every baby. Oh well!
Thank you for this chat. It was such a blessing for me!
its true! lol
Wow I am so sorry you had such awful birth experiences! Thank you for sharing and for being open to life! Loved this conversation. I am also extremely choleric and my husband thinks I’m joking when I say I might hit someone 🤣 You’re the best!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hacksaw Ridge was the movie!!! so sooo good
Wish I could hang with you guys!! By the way… I’m not much of a crier either… always wondered why. Even my sister, who is very successful and is touted nails, cries often, thinks I’m heartless, but I’m not. I now, realize I need an outlet.
Also, looking to move to or close to Steubenville… would love to be around more true Catholics! Need help with that, plz.
Ty
Leave a comment about your temperament or favorite fighting style 😅. This was a great conversation.
Thank you for your truth. Just awesome. Yup, co-sleeping is the answer Yes wonderful gift for new mommas, Epsom salts, hemorrhoid cream, and raspberry tea.
Wonderful!
It’s so funny because it’s my lifelong dream to become a mom and after watching this video I’m petrified. Pray for me to surrender of the Holy Spirit haha.
Honestly I LOVE being a MOM, it really is so amazing!!
You are both so wonderful ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Love U
The movie is Hacksaw Ridge the story of Desmond Doss who was a devout Seventh Day Adventist.
Hacksaw Ridge
Oh!! You are my daughter.
The movie is Hacksaw Ridge
the movie is Hacksaw Ridge
I slept with my baby girl too and I don’t regret it- it was the only way I could rest while feeding her through the night plus getting out of bed to feed her while recovering the c-section, was really painful !
Yes I don't recommend C-sections, but am thankful for them!
hacksaw ridge
Thank you for this talk. I’ve been struggling a lot on and off with postpartum depression after having my daughter 6 months ago. What pill helped you? My dr prescribed zoloft but it made me so dizzy.
Oh I wish I remembered, I think it was just an anti-depresant
Oh ok, thank you
Aww :( - I was c-section too and I was able to breastfeed without issues -
Just want to share in a deep place...I was traumatized on 3 occasions by 2 men ...1 of whom was close relative....his wife touched me extremely inappropriately..... they always lied and said it was the mental card....now am on psyche meds and have several physical ailments ...like intestinal issues and terrible itchy sores all over....will b tested for scelliac disease next week.... how can I also heal from severe emotional / mental parental abuse. ....
Please respond
Everyone is a narcissist - how can they not be? They are teaching children immediately as they enter school to live on "me street"
Cameron thank you for sharing your story of your hysterectomy. What would eather of you ladies say if, a Dr. tells you it is not safe to have more children due to other health issues but do not require a hysterectomy. Would NFP be the only option as Catholics?
YES!! I have friends in that boat, NFP all the way!!
I thought NFP was only for grave reasons not to use as contraception…
2:58 what movie is this??
You need to be very careful with depression prescription. We just had medicated mom killing her babies. Drugs are not jokes, even legal ones. And the ones who just serve them are never accountable if something happens.
There are many ways do deal with post part before asking for prescription drugs.
How do u even find a spiritual advisor
I would ask a priest who you are familiar with and trust or who seems like someone you would be able to open up to. Also, if you go to confession, usually you can ask a priest for spiritual direction while in the confessional
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😢that’s horrible, let me look into it.. Thanks for letting us know
Oh pur lease... 🙄
Hacksaw Ridge