Thank you so much for all your lovely comments, messages and questions. Don’t forget to have a looky through my other videos. You might find one you like... and you’ll defo make me happy 🥰
By far the most thorough, complete, comprehensive and informative info on cob saddles that I have found. Thank u so much for this video! I hav a lovely, big Haflinger that I now have in a really good fitting saddle. But now I understand why 😄 Great knowledge to have. Once again, thank u! And I look forward to more vids 🥰
Thank you, this video makes so much sense! Now to find a saddle fitter in my area, who understands the flat backed, short backed, forward girth groove cob!
My daughter has a very wide no wither Welsh c...we have spent years trying to find a saddle that did not move and fit properly, the best we found was an older style silhouette working hunter saddle that was 11.5 inch d to d lol....then it started moving because she lost weight...now we use a very expensive treeless saddle it's fantastic xxxx easytrek;) ;) lol
There is no one like you on the west coast of the united states! I have a percheron quarter horse cross that is xx wide. I have ordered and sent back three saddles in a year!
Fab video thank you, this may sound daft but my Connie has no wither and I actually find it hard to know if I have her saddle in the right place. Could you do a video on that or to include that? 💗
Hi, loved the video. Very informative; I have a question please. My horse is what I would call a fairly lightweight cob, not necessarily barrel shaped all the way through his body. He has wide sprung ribs bit is quite fit and lean with a fairly good length of back. Big shoulders but doesn't usually carry much belly. I have a PeeWee GP saddle which fits beautifully. I also have an Ideal AST dressage saddle which fits me well but I appreciate the difference in the shape of the trees between these two saddles, and that the tree on my dressage saddle is possibly no longer the best for him now he has achieved his more adult physical shape. Here's the question...I now know that the C&H tree suits him well but...as a "mature" rider with arthritic hips and back I found a dressage saddle on a C&H tree was just too wide for me through the twist. Is there a solution to this please?
It could be that when it's in a dressage saddle, the way they're designed to make you sit (think old fashioned clothes peg) means your hip flexors are really opened - so on a wide twisted saddle/wide ribbed horse, this can be even more noticeable. There are things that can be done at manufacture to narrow the feel of the twist, or the knee blocks can be angled to allow your leg to have a little more bend in them, therefore not forcing the hips quite so 'open'. If that makes sense?
I am struggling with my friesian mare. One saddler just huffed about her and told me to call her after lunging for three months in the hope that her shape would change. I have a Kent and Masters saddle but it lifts up at the back as the tree is not flat enough. I subsequently rode in it and it slipped around during a schooling session and I fell off and broke my pelvis. I am now after any suggestions on how to stop a saddle slipping. I have bout non slip gel girth and anti slip saddle pads. Do you have any other suggestions? I want to ride dressage and need a saddle that has good external knee blockers and a secure deep seat…a lot of the cob saddles are not right for my discipline.
I love your videos. I volunteer at an RDA (therapy riding) centre and we have a very round pony (and quite fat), absolutely NO withers either. Her current saddle slips on her especially when an unbalanced kid ride's her. Sadly RDA is a charity and rely on donations so we can't buy amazing fitting saddles, we have to work with what we have. Not sure if you know this brand as it is Australian, "Southern Stars", that's her saddle, it is adjustable in the front. Are there any tips to help stabilise the saddle?
@@ADayInTheLifeOfASaddleFitter It looks like a low profile saddle, like has a fairly flat tree. Adjustable in the front. Usually has 3 billet straps, but it was changed to 2 long billets a while ago. This pony easily gets fat pockets where the tree points go. Round ponies are a nightmare.
i ride a gypsy vanner that my trainer leases and i’m hoping that i will be able to buy her in the next year or 2... i want to buy a used saddle for her that i’ll fix up with some tlc! i can’t afford an expensive saddle, so we’ll see!
Dixie Ten Broeck you are able to buy a used saddle then get it adjusted to your horse. sorry if that was unclear, but i’m buying a cheap used saddle the getting a saddle fitter out to fit it to my horse...
Hi Jane, It is one of my own brand - PeeWee Saddlery - but it's on the Ideal H&C tree. Fast forward to the last bit of the video and I talk you through it :)
So, can.u.have a narrower twist on for riders if the h n c type trees are used? And if u used the balance strap how would the girth attach? 1 and then the balance strap?
I am sure you can. The Society Of Master Saddlers - who I trained with- have lots of overseas qualified fitters, including Germany. If you pop along to their website www.mastersaddlers.co.uk there should be details of saddle fitters on there. And if not, they’re super helpful to call and speak to. Good luck! X
They would probably still need the broad panels. But a different shape at the ‘head’ (the front). They’re often a tricky type to fit for that reason but not impossible. It depends a lot on how broad and tall the withers are. :)
I have a young QH with a broad flat back and well defined withers. I bought a thorowgood dressage cob saddle and it seems to fit her perfectly so far. It also fits my extremely round mutton withered APHA mare (once I switch out gullet plates). I will be saving up to invest in a better saddle down the road, but I think this one will give us plenty of good service.
Is a 14.2 hand high horse considered a cob?? And also I’ve been wanting to get her a saddle but idk what size she is Because when I go to purchase one it says the size like 17 18 or 19 and I have no clue what that means but I don’t want to get the wrong saddle and spend all that money. If you guys know what I’m talking about please comment on this and please help me lol Ty!
a cob is a 'type' of horse/pony - one that's usually very chunky - like the ones in the thumbnail for this video The length of the saddle is what people mean when they talk about a 17"/18"... but you also need to consider the width, the shape, and the panels etc. So you really need a saddle fitter to help you. They should also bring some saddles for you to try so you can see which ones you're the most comfy in, as well as the ones that fit your pony the best.
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Thank you so much for all your lovely comments, messages and questions. Don’t forget to have a looky through my other videos. You might find one you like... and you’ll defo make me happy 🥰
loved it Poppy..very well explained & your humour made it all the more pleasant to watch..thankyou
By far the most thorough, complete, comprehensive and informative info on cob saddles that I have found. Thank u so much for this video! I hav a lovely, big Haflinger that I now have in a really good fitting saddle. But now I understand why 😄 Great knowledge to have. Once again, thank u! And I look forward to more vids 🥰
Glad it was helpful! xxx
Thank you, this video makes so much sense! Now to find a saddle fitter in my area, who understands the flat backed, short backed, forward girth groove cob!
My daughter has a very wide no wither Welsh c...we have spent years trying to find a saddle that did not move and fit properly, the best we found was an older style silhouette working hunter saddle that was 11.5 inch d to d lol....then it started moving because she lost weight...now we use a very expensive treeless saddle it's fantastic xxxx easytrek;) ;) lol
Sometimes the old ones are just as good as the new ones!
There is no one like you on the west coast of the united states! I have a percheron quarter horse cross that is xx wide. I have ordered and sent back three saddles in a year!
Could you do a video about half pads and how they help with saddle fitting and all that?
Ooh good plan! 🥰
I am ready to order my per wee cob saddle , I'm so excited !!!!!! Xxxxxxxxxxx
I love little Mabel.. x
She's certainly a cutie!
Thank you so very much
Fab video thank you, this may sound daft but my Connie has no wither and I actually find it hard to know if I have her saddle in the right place. Could you do a video on that or to include that? 💗
Is it possible to get a cob shaped saddle with a 'narrow'er twist for the rider? Love your videos btw!!!
Hi, loved the video. Very informative; I have a question please. My horse is what I would call a fairly lightweight cob, not necessarily barrel shaped all the way through his body. He has wide sprung ribs bit is quite fit and lean with a fairly good length of back. Big shoulders but doesn't usually carry much belly. I have a PeeWee GP saddle which fits beautifully. I also have an Ideal AST dressage saddle which fits me well but I appreciate the difference in the shape of the trees between these two saddles, and that the tree on my dressage saddle is possibly no longer the best for him now he has achieved his more adult physical shape. Here's the question...I now know that the C&H tree suits him well but...as a "mature" rider with arthritic hips and back I found a dressage saddle on a C&H tree was just too wide for me through the twist. Is there a solution to this please?
It could be that when it's in a dressage saddle, the way they're designed to make you sit (think old fashioned clothes peg) means your hip flexors are really opened - so on a wide twisted saddle/wide ribbed horse, this can be even more noticeable. There are things that can be done at manufacture to narrow the feel of the twist, or the knee blocks can be angled to allow your leg to have a little more bend in them, therefore not forcing the hips quite so 'open'. If that makes sense?
I am struggling with my friesian mare. One saddler just huffed about her and told me to call her after lunging for three months in the hope that her shape would change. I have a Kent and Masters saddle but it lifts up at the back as the tree is not flat enough. I subsequently rode in it and it slipped around during a schooling session and I fell off and broke my pelvis. I am now after any suggestions on how to stop a saddle slipping. I have bout non slip gel girth and anti slip saddle pads. Do you have any other suggestions? I want to ride dressage and need a saddle that has good external knee blockers and a secure deep seat…a lot of the cob saddles are not right for my discipline.
What if you have wide cob, but are a rider with short legs and narrow hips. There must be a wide enough saddle with a narrow twist for the rider?
opinion on DT Butterfly saddles?
I love your videos.
I volunteer at an RDA (therapy riding) centre and we have a very round pony (and quite fat), absolutely NO withers either. Her current saddle slips on her especially when an unbalanced kid ride's her. Sadly RDA is a charity and rely on donations so we can't buy amazing fitting saddles, we have to work with what we have. Not sure if you know this brand as it is Australian, "Southern Stars", that's her saddle, it is adjustable in the front. Are there any tips to help stabilise the saddle?
Do you happen to know the saddle fits the pony? And how many girth straps it has?
@@ADayInTheLifeOfASaddleFitter It looks like a low profile saddle, like has a fairly flat tree. Adjustable in the front. Usually has 3 billet straps, but it was changed to 2 long billets a while ago. This pony easily gets fat pockets where the tree points go. Round ponies are a nightmare.
Thanks for the great explanation!
These only go down to 16”. Do you know if the pony saddles are comparable to this. Irish cob is only 13hh and 15”
i ride a gypsy vanner that my trainer leases and i’m hoping that i will be able to buy her in the next year or 2... i want to buy a used saddle for her that i’ll fix up with some tlc! i can’t afford an expensive saddle, so we’ll see!
Good luck buying the horse! Xx
A Day In The Life Of A Saddle Fitter thank you!!!
Dixie Ten Broeck you are able to buy a used saddle then get it adjusted to your horse. sorry if that was unclear, but i’m buying a cheap used saddle the getting a saddle fitter out to fit it to my horse...
Dixie Ten Broeck no offense taken! and thank you!
I was always tought that the saddle should sit behind the shoulder too xxx
Yep. The tree of the saddle should sit a few cm behind the back of the scapula 🥰
Yes, the tree of the saddle should sit behind the scapula (shoulder) but the flaps are allowed over the scapula. :)
That's a gorgeous saddle for a cob! Which make and model is it please?
Hi Jane, It is one of my own brand - PeeWee Saddlery - but it's on the Ideal H&C tree. Fast forward to the last bit of the video and I talk you through it :)
So, can.u.have a narrower twist on for riders if the h n c type trees are used? And if u used the balance strap how would the girth attach? 1 and then the balance strap?
Hi there can.u.answer my previous question?
What saddle jumping do you recommend for haflinger which is round and flat xd ?
Sorry I didn't catch what your said... Ideal H & C tree or Ideal H & S tree? thanks
H&C - Stands for Highland & Cob
Do you know if you can get a saddle fitter like you in Germany? Or at least these saddles?
I am sure you can. The Society Of Master Saddlers - who I trained with- have lots of overseas qualified fitters, including Germany. If you pop along to their website www.mastersaddlers.co.uk there should be details of saddle fitters on there. And if not, they’re super helpful to call and speak to. Good luck! X
What about wide horses with defined withers?
They would probably still need the broad panels. But a different shape at the ‘head’ (the front). They’re often a tricky type to fit for that reason but not impossible. It depends a lot on how broad and tall the withers are. :)
I have a young QH with a broad flat back and well defined withers. I bought a thorowgood dressage cob saddle and it seems to fit her perfectly so far. It also fits my extremely round mutton withered APHA mare (once I switch out gullet plates). I will be saving up to invest in a better saddle down the road, but I think this one will give us plenty of good service.
Hi would be great to here what type of girth you recommend :)
Claire Pugh so sorry! I missed this comment.... it depends on what type of horse/pony and what is happening to the saddle. Xx
Is a 14.2 hand high horse considered a cob?? And also I’ve been wanting to get her a saddle but idk what size she is Because when I go to purchase one it says the size like 17 18 or 19 and I have no clue what that means but I don’t want to get the wrong saddle and spend all that money. If you guys know what I’m talking about please comment on this and please help me lol Ty!
a cob is a 'type' of horse/pony - one that's usually very chunky - like the ones in the thumbnail for this video The length of the saddle is what people mean when they talk about a 17"/18"... but you also need to consider the width, the shape, and the panels etc. So you really need a saddle fitter to help you. They should also bring some saddles for you to try so you can see which ones you're the most comfy in, as well as the ones that fit your pony the best.
@@ADayInTheLifeOfASaddleFitter ok Tysm!!
however some people like moi have tiny twists and wide horses and no ever for 43 years of living here no fitters what to do -
sometimes we can narrow the twist on the saddle for the rider, but it still has to fit over the horse's back so it can be a bit tricky
medford oregon no saddle fitters 3 wide wider widest horses help!!!!
Very passionate ❤ Are you married?