hi bud, i just recently found you videos and they have come in clutch sending them to new techs before i get them hands on for training. Im a PM working with a few different isp's thru the midwest
That’s awesome man! You should join the discord we have forums on there discussing telco and everything related. You can also dm me and we can discuss. I’m working on creating a comprehensive guide series outline every part of my job.
Speaking of fixing other's messes. When I bought my current home, the outside wall near the cable and telephone NIDs was littered with holes from both saddles and wall penetrations. When I upgraded my home to 200 amp service, I reinsulated that wall and took the time to repair all the damage and bring all the cable and telephone wiring back into the house where it belongs. I ran 1" smurf tube from the metal wall box behind the telephone NID to my network closet. Two years later, it made it ridiculously easy for the tech to upgrade us from VDSL to fiber, took about 20 minutes. I appreciate your planning and thoughtfulness to home owners in the course of your work! Keep up that great work and fiber for all!
Voltage on the strand near a transformer is pretty common at least in my area. We have a 25ft copper cable that we attach to the back of the voltage detector and we attach the other end of that cable to a screw driver and stick it into the ground and bleed the voltage off. As for that terminal on the pole i cant tell exactly what it is but if its a 5g terminal there is no way im climbing that without disabling it first. Where im located 5g terminals have a warning on the pole.
I had to fight with the guy that was running the fiber to my house that every thing comes into the house no boxes on the outside but the power meter. The only way was to show them I had a t1 line ran into my house from at&t
It happens from time to time for me. It’s possible as long as theirs an appointment route. And I need to get a consent form signed off by customer to waive liability 🤷🏻♂️
Do you have to go above copper? The market I work in we are top strand and most of the time cable companies only leave a few inches between their drops and power. Not code at all. Just curious.
No sure what you mean by above copper. Usually fibre and copper are on the same strand here (same provider) and yea that’s bad. Poles I’m usually 3’ below power at the house anchored at least 12” away 😅
Thats just a little induction on the strand from that transformer pushing out a huge electromagnetic field. we usually create a ground source and connect a long ground wire to our foreign voltage tester and that'll bleed off the induction and let you know if there's an actual issue. Loving the vids man, keep it up! Also, really appreciate the clean work you produce.
Yeah, you were correct. Your fvd was detecting EMI from the transformer. SUPER common. happens to me all the time. Like someone else said, attaching a ground clamp wire to a screwdriver in the ground grounds your fvd, and then you don't get EMI giving you false readings.
Could have been mounted that way because of earlier dog chew issues. We have had those problems before. You have to get the fiber up out of the dogs “standing” reach or you will be back for a service call
A conduit on the pole might have made a difference. Maybe. Your solution this way is much more neat, and the Hydro might come in and move the pole anytime leavong your ISP with the problem to move the line as well. Good thinkg ahead!
Hey man came across your videos bc my internet was out (just got hit by a hurricane 😅 ) how do u become a contractor for ISP s ? Your job looks interesting man I’m looking for a career
@enzoluna8353 I really appreciate it. Wish I could help. I’m sure lots of companies are looking for guys. Just out yourself out there. Join Facebook groups there’s tons for this industry
Is that a different ISP ? (different drop type) Or do you need to carry a bunch of different drop types depending on what you find ? (hopefully it's document and you know in advance ...)
Great question! Certain areas built more recently use this type of material. 90% of my area uses Corning Opti Tap, 10% this AFL Trident. Other areas of bc use older style of AFL where the end is a flimsy patch cord essentially and the terminal on the strand is in an enclosure. Really annoying to work with
So to actually answer your question. Same isp 2 different types of and I usually keep 1-2 coils in my truck and I currently have a 450m spool that I’ll be hanging next week 👍🏼 And I know my area very well so by looking at the address I’ll know if I need them 🤙🏼
Love sseing your Videos, as an Telecom Enthusiast i love to see "how the job is done". For me being from Germany some of your Drops look kinda sketchy, but i know it's how it's done Overseas and it's up to Code. Speaking of Code, i'm really curoius to learn about the regulations on Telco wireing in BC. Do you know if there's a short "Cheat Sheet" for the Code for such wireing? Please don't Stop making Videos, they are awesome!
Umm we follow our own outside plant protocol and procedures given by the isp. Internally there are set guidelines. Usually taught to electricians since they normally do the preliminary Low voltage wiring in homes. Then it’s escalates from there pending commercial applications and so on.
@@FyBurzThank you very much for your Answer, thats interesting to hear. Here in Germany there are several Code Conditions under which Telcos can do their Cabling (Minimal Depth, how to Cross other Lines, Distance regulations from Lines etc.) Here most Infrastructure is Underground (would guess 95% of Telco Infra). So Pole-to-Pole Transitions are very unusual here - neither are here MPTs like in your Videos. Most Fibers over here are directly Fusion-Spliced together. As Prep-Work (like with MPTs in BC) there are burried "Speedpipes" to the Homes (Small conduits which fit a "standard outdoor fiber" - nothing reinforced like yours) You can just find Open-Air-Infra in really remote Areas or in really old rural Areas.
do you not do splicing? in my area we don't have the NPT like that where you plug the cable in... we have a nap with a fiber tray and you have splice the customers into a service fiber. some areas in the US they are actually attached to the lines on the poles and u have to drop the nap down and do it
It’s kind of confusing even to me really. I have a very broad skillset. That allows me to do it all minus higher level splicing. Which I could also do with a little more training and patience. But day to day I’d say my title is fibre drop tech or fibre tech. It’s very hard to tell what you’d be doing pending what company you work for and what position you do there.
@FyBurz well I qualified up to ribbon splicing. I never mechanical splice justed fusion spliced. When I saw the ont and you said the tech is coming to splice it I was thinking mechanical splicing
@blackunicorn4996 yeah exactly they mechanical splice in the nib. Sounds likely you’ll be in more of a splicer role 👍🏼 Good gig, just make sure you watch your counts and work neatly. Good luck man.
That antenna on the pole looks almost like one of those mesh type setups that electric companies have been installing in the U.S. Not sure if Canada is doing that yet or not. It’s essentially to read meters. Not sure exposure limits on that.
I don't understand the thought process behind the tech just doing the inside of the house part. In my area the provider schedules someone to bury your line or hang it, if they don't come out before a tech does the tech cannot leave your home until you have service. Techs here if they do not have pre-ran line have to run the line and schedule for a crew to come bury or properly run it in the air.
This statement was very confusing for me to read, because it sounds like it’s done pretty much the same there as here. The logic is efficiency and Outside plant coordination. Techs aren’t trained to run drops the way we are. They can obviously do them but not up to the standard and protocol that we are held up too. And providers are moving more towards plug and play setups or self installs done by customers. (Kind of irrelevant) It’s very time consuming to run some of these drops so it makes sense to have them done beforehand.
@@FyBurz It is really not done the same here though. A tech came already and installed in the house and left the customer without service. For example Frontier just lit up my neighborhood, and the crew to bury my line never made it and when the tech that came to install made it out, he literally laid the armored fiber cable on the ground to the NID and 2 weeks later another person came out to bury it. As a customer if someone came to my house and did everything inside only for me to be told now I have to wait for someone to come run the line from the pole to the house or whatever I would be highly infuriated. Even copper providers will just put a temporary drop if it is a new subscriber becuase the point of the installation in the house is when they leave the service is supposed to be active, which in the case of this video the customer was waiting for you or someone like you to come light his line up.
@@concernedcitizen2031 this video is not a representation of how it’s done here. The tech just happened to pull his job ahead of my due date. 98% of the time I’m the one that shows up first to prep the site for install not the other way around…
@@FyBurz No I understand that it is not normal that they show up first, but that still raises my point even more. Someone came and did all the work for the house to be ready and then left a customer offline. As a customer I would not really be satisfied and I would likely not continue by subscription to the service. Sure in a perfect world you show up to 100% of the sites first, but we don't live in a perfect world. I understand that the techs that do installs don't know how to do what you do but they should never leave a house offline as they are the ones that are there to activate service, even if that means leaving a shitty temporary drop for you to come in and fix later there job is at whatever time they show up making sure that a new customer is online.
@@concernedcitizen2031 I mean I agree somewhat. But usually the customer is left happier. Since they’re being installed sooner, once my drop is done (before scheduled appointment) they can be put into service asap as opposed to waiting X amount of time until their appointment. Also some techs do run drops. But we highly prefer they don’t because it’s our job our order and we get paid to run it properly and to OSP code. You can believe what you want regarding the customers opinion on this but they are almost always excited at the opportunity of getting fibre installed over bad coax service. And most of these are done in smaller communities.
Pending neighborhood density. Aerial usually every 2 spans. Rural/city changes a bit. Where in the city you might have more 4-6 port naps more often. Or 12 port less often. It depends who does the build and the way they want to implement it.
Mpts go to FOSCs (splice cases)on the strand or in vaults. FOSCs go back to FDHs (splitters/patch panel) which go back to pop sites or HQ where the switching equipment is.
you work dangerous ...5g tower should be a phone # on unit provider can turn it off not off no work also cap from voltage detector goes over brass fitting when testing... pole should be branded until voltage is clear. like your content ...work safe its not worth dying
Definitely not worth dying. All the 5G stuff is just a joke. I’m being safe don’t worry. Not a single warning label on the pole or the antenna. We’ve determined it’s just a repeater of some sort. And I stayed behind it. The voltage stuff is interesting first time I came across that. But it was like a false reading. It went away after I retested.
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hi bud, i just recently found you videos and they have come in clutch sending them to new techs before i get them hands on for training. Im a PM working with a few different isp's thru the midwest
That’s awesome man! You should join the discord we have forums on there discussing telco and everything related. You can also dm me and we can discuss.
I’m working on creating a comprehensive guide series outline every part of my job.
@@FyBurz hi can i join to your discord? To know some forums related in telco works.. i hope it is okay 🙂
@@gcmotovlog for sure man! Come on In I think the link is in the description 😅
@@FyBurz ok i will check.
@@FyBurz no discord link, can you reply here the discord link?
Speaking of fixing other's messes. When I bought my current home, the outside wall near the cable and telephone NIDs was littered with holes from both saddles and wall penetrations. When I upgraded my home to 200 amp service, I reinsulated that wall and took the time to repair all the damage and bring all the cable and telephone wiring back into the house where it belongs. I ran 1" smurf tube from the metal wall box behind the telephone NID to my network closet. Two years later, it made it ridiculously easy for the tech to upgrade us from VDSL to fiber, took about 20 minutes. I appreciate your planning and thoughtfulness to home owners in the course of your work! Keep up that great work and fiber for all!
That’s awesome. That’s exactly how I consult electricians to do new builds!
Thanks for watching!
If I was the homeowner I would have been pissed with how the tech left it. You left it much better, professional install.
Thanks man, yeah he was happier with this for sure 👍🏼
Looks much better the way you did it
Thanks I thought so too 😅
Voltage on the strand near a transformer is pretty common at least in my area. We have a 25ft copper cable that we attach to the back of the voltage detector and we attach the other end of that cable to a screw driver and stick it into the ground and bleed the voltage off.
As for that terminal on the pole i cant tell exactly what it is but if its a 5g terminal there is no way im climbing that without disabling it first. Where im located 5g terminals have a warning on the pole.
Yeah no warning so I think I’m good. 😬
I think its a smartgrid node for remote meter reading. Its a glorified outdoor WiFi AP. Don't worry about it.
Drop is done I ain’t worried now until I die 😅 but thanks good to know
Great cable routing.
It sure is! 😅
You'd like the flat clamps we use in the uk, i also think we use similar to the ones you use for the main aerial cable that goes from pole to pole
Hmm. I’d be interested to see pictures of them. Email them to me if you ever feel inclined 👍🏼
I had to fight with the guy that was running the fiber to my house that every thing comes into the house no boxes on the outside but the power meter. The only way was to show them I had a t1 line ran into my house from at&t
It happens from time to time for me. It’s possible as long as theirs an appointment route. And I need to get a consent form signed off by customer to waive liability 🤷🏻♂️
Do you have to go above copper? The market I work in we are top strand and most of the time cable companies only leave a few inches between their drops and power. Not code at all. Just curious.
No sure what you mean by above copper. Usually fibre and copper are on the same strand here (same provider) and yea that’s bad. Poles I’m usually 3’ below power at the house anchored at least 12” away 😅
Thats just a little induction on the strand from that transformer pushing out a huge electromagnetic field. we usually create a ground source and connect a long ground wire to our foreign voltage tester and that'll bleed off the induction and let you know if there's an actual issue. Loving the vids man, keep it up! Also, really appreciate the clean work you produce.
yeah that's what I gathered, I will definitely try out that grounding method next time!
thanks for watching!
This is a mobile home for the meter base is on a pole. ISP's may differ on where to mount equipment for this situation.
Yeah that’s why I second guessed for a second. It customer told me it’s been there for 20 years and it’s not moving 😅
Yeah, you were correct. Your fvd was detecting EMI from the transformer. SUPER common. happens to me all the time. Like someone else said, attaching a ground clamp wire to a screwdriver in the ground grounds your fvd, and then you don't get EMI giving you false readings.
I’m gonna try this. Do you think the cable I use for tracer would work as a ground ?
@@FyBurz It's conductive, it should work.
Okay I’ll give it a try. If I come across it again
Could have been mounted that way because of earlier dog chew issues. We have had those problems before. You have to get the fiber up out of the dogs “standing” reach or you will be back for a service call
Thats definitely not the reason why he did that. But it’s a good thing to look out for
A conduit on the pole might have made a difference. Maybe. Your solution this way is much more neat, and the Hydro might come in and move the pole anytime leavong your ISP with the problem to move the line as well. Good thinkg ahead!
my exact thinking! Thanks
Hey man came across your videos bc my internet was out (just got hit by a hurricane 😅 ) how do u become a contractor for ISP s ? Your job looks interesting man I’m looking for a career
Not sure man. I lucked into it 😅
@@enzoluna8353 hope you’re staying safe man!
@@FyBurz I need some luck man this Hurricane left me without a job anyways your videos are cool man keep it up!
@enzoluna8353 I really appreciate it. Wish I could help. I’m sure lots of companies are looking for guys. Just out yourself out there. Join Facebook groups there’s tons for this industry
Is that a different ISP ? (different drop type) Or do you need to carry a bunch of different drop types depending on what you find ? (hopefully it's document and you know in advance ...)
Great question! Certain areas built more recently use this type of material. 90% of my area uses Corning Opti Tap, 10% this AFL Trident. Other areas of bc use older style of AFL where the end is a flimsy patch cord essentially and the terminal on the strand is in an enclosure. Really annoying to work with
So to actually answer your question.
Same isp
2 different types of and I usually keep 1-2 coils in my truck and I currently have a 450m spool that I’ll be hanging next week 👍🏼
And I know my area very well so by looking at the address I’ll know if I need them 🤙🏼
Keep up the great work 💯 🔥💯🔥💯
Thanks 💯
Love sseing your Videos, as an Telecom Enthusiast i love to see "how the job is done". For me being from Germany some of your Drops look kinda sketchy, but i know it's how it's done Overseas and it's up to Code. Speaking of Code, i'm really curoius to learn about the regulations on Telco wireing in BC. Do you know if there's a short "Cheat Sheet" for the Code for such wireing?
Please don't Stop making Videos, they are awesome!
Umm we follow our own outside plant protocol and procedures given by the isp. Internally there are set guidelines. Usually taught to electricians since they normally do the preliminary Low voltage wiring in homes. Then it’s escalates from there pending commercial applications and so on.
@@FyBurzThank you very much for your Answer, thats interesting to hear. Here in Germany there are several Code Conditions under which Telcos can do their Cabling (Minimal Depth, how to Cross other Lines, Distance regulations from Lines etc.) Here most Infrastructure is Underground (would guess 95% of Telco Infra). So Pole-to-Pole Transitions are very unusual here - neither are here MPTs like in your Videos. Most Fibers over here are directly Fusion-Spliced together. As Prep-Work (like with MPTs in BC) there are burried "Speedpipes" to the Homes (Small conduits which fit a "standard outdoor fiber" - nothing reinforced like yours)
You can just find Open-Air-Infra in really remote Areas or in really old rural Areas.
Yea that makes sense. Urban planning goes a long way with telco.
Remind me of the good old days when I work for phone company in Mo. 🤔
I can’t tell if I’m in the good old days now 😅
Hi good day, can i ask what ISP did you work?
@@gcmotovlog we discusss ISPs In the discord! Check out our chats 👍🏼🙌🏼
@@FyBurz can i ask the discord link?
do you not do splicing? in my area we don't have the NPT like that where you plug the cable in... we have a nap with a fiber tray and you have splice the customers into a service fiber. some areas in the US they are actually attached to the lines on the poles and u have to drop the nap down and do it
Yeah we’re pretty fortunate. Our builds are mostly plug and play. Splicing happens one step back. Home>nap>fosc>fdh>popsite(hq)
What is your job title. If im trying to be a fiber technician, would i be splicing the ont or doing what your doing as far as fiber drop
It’s kind of confusing even to me really. I have a very broad skillset. That allows me to do it all minus higher level splicing. Which I could also do with a little more training and patience.
But day to day I’d say my title is fibre drop tech or fibre tech.
It’s very hard to tell what you’d be doing pending what company you work for and what position you do there.
@FyBurz well I qualified up to ribbon splicing. I never mechanical splice justed fusion spliced. When I saw the ont and you said the tech is coming to splice it I was thinking mechanical splicing
@blackunicorn4996 yeah exactly they mechanical splice in the nib.
Sounds likely you’ll be in more of a splicer role 👍🏼
Good gig, just make sure you watch your counts and work neatly. Good luck man.
That antenna on the pole looks almost like one of those mesh type setups that electric companies have been installing in the U.S. Not sure if Canada is doing that yet or not. It’s essentially to read meters. Not sure exposure limits on that.
I think thats what it is
Nice and clean
🙏🏼 Thanks
What brand are the drop wire vice clamps?
No idea 🤷🏻♂️
Nice job
Thanks!
I don't understand the thought process behind the tech just doing the inside of the house part. In my area the provider schedules someone to bury your line or hang it, if they don't come out before a tech does the tech cannot leave your home until you have service. Techs here if they do not have pre-ran line have to run the line and schedule for a crew to come bury or properly run it in the air.
This statement was very confusing for me to read, because it sounds like it’s done pretty much the same there as here.
The logic is efficiency and Outside plant coordination. Techs aren’t trained to run drops the way we are. They can obviously do them but not up to the standard and protocol that we are held up too.
And providers are moving more towards plug and play setups or self installs done by customers. (Kind of irrelevant)
It’s very time consuming to run some of these drops so it makes sense to have them done beforehand.
@@FyBurz It is really not done the same here though. A tech came already and installed in the house and left the customer without service. For example Frontier just lit up my neighborhood, and the crew to bury my line never made it and when the tech that came to install made it out, he literally laid the armored fiber cable on the ground to the NID and 2 weeks later another person came out to bury it.
As a customer if someone came to my house and did everything inside only for me to be told now I have to wait for someone to come run the line from the pole to the house or whatever I would be highly infuriated. Even copper providers will just put a temporary drop if it is a new subscriber becuase the point of the installation in the house is when they leave the service is supposed to be active, which in the case of this video the customer was waiting for you or someone like you to come light his line up.
@@concernedcitizen2031 this video is not a representation of how it’s done here. The tech just happened to pull his job ahead of my due date. 98% of the time I’m the one that shows up first to prep the site for install not the other way around…
@@FyBurz No I understand that it is not normal that they show up first, but that still raises my point even more. Someone came and did all the work for the house to be ready and then left a customer offline. As a customer I would not really be satisfied and I would likely not continue by subscription to the service. Sure in a perfect world you show up to 100% of the sites first, but we don't live in a perfect world. I understand that the techs that do installs don't know how to do what you do but they should never leave a house offline as they are the ones that are there to activate service, even if that means leaving a shitty temporary drop for you to come in and fix later there job is at whatever time they show up making sure that a new customer is online.
@@concernedcitizen2031 I mean I agree somewhat. But usually the customer is left happier. Since they’re being installed sooner, once my drop is done (before scheduled appointment) they can be put into service asap as opposed to waiting X amount of time until their appointment.
Also some techs do run drops. But we highly prefer they don’t because it’s our job our order and we get paid to run it properly and to OSP code.
You can believe what you want regarding the customers opinion on this but they are almost always excited at the opportunity of getting fibre installed over bad coax service. And most of these are done in smaller communities.
How far are the mpt apart ?
Pending neighborhood density. Aerial usually every 2 spans. Rural/city changes a bit. Where in the city you might have more 4-6 port naps more often. Or 12 port less often. It depends who does the build and the way they want to implement it.
@@FyBurz got it….. then all the mpt are ran back to a large cabinet for the area ?
Mpts go to FOSCs (splice cases)on the strand or in vaults. FOSCs go back to FDHs (splitters/patch panel) which go back to pop sites or HQ where the switching equipment is.
Probably induction. Just need to bleed it off into the ground with a screwdriver and a bungy clamp
you work dangerous ...5g tower should be a phone # on unit provider can turn it off not off no work also cap from voltage detector goes over brass fitting when testing... pole should be branded until voltage is clear. like your content ...work safe its not worth dying
Definitely not worth dying. All the 5G stuff is just a joke. I’m being safe don’t worry. Not a single warning label on the pole or the antenna. We’ve determined it’s just a repeater of some sort. And I stayed behind it. The voltage stuff is interesting first time I came across that. But it was like a false reading. It went away after I retested.
I would have put your box next to the telcom box on the house then run your fiber over to it. The box shouldnt have been on the pole.
Isn’t that what I did 🤔😅
Maybe home owner didn’t want it mounted to the house
Incorrect. The homeowner had no input whatsoever
Ghetto pole placement. Your made the value of their home go up 😂
Haha I’m glad you think so. The customer was also pleased.
its probably just a 5G radio.... short term exposure shouldn't cause an issue
Good to know thx 🤙🏼
I prefer your placement better as the placement on the pole made no sense what so ever.
Agreed
5G cancer?
A joke 😅