Antti's move looks so powerful even in slow motion. Your observation about disc path is something I haven't heard anyone else talking about. Good stuff!
Cool audio in the beginning, explains the start of your Turbo Encabulator video. I'm still digesting your last video so my biggest take away from this video, from watching it once, is seeing how Antti Kotilainen stretches/loads both his anterior and posterior oblique slings at the top of his backswing. Really cool to see!
Ive never thought about or heard anyone talk about rotating the shoulder. Everyone always says to keep your shoulder locked. Im very intrigued and cant wait to go to the field to try this out.
@ 1:57 you mention the spine will be tipping targetward momentarily. Would you suggest incorporating this tip into your actual swing (or is it mainly used for this drill)? It feels quite nice.
Yep, it is the most efficient and natural way to move targetward just like walking or running, makes no difference whether you moving sideways or forwards or backwards.
This jar screwing feel - not many people talk about this drill but Blake talked about a plate drill later in the hammer pound thread. Are you feeling something similar to this ? the plate drill (now attempt #5 at part 4): if you sit in front of a an upside-down domey disc on a table, the point on the disc closest to you being 6 o'clock and the point farthest away from you being 12 o'clock, pinch your index and thumb on the edge of the disc at 12 o'clock. your wrist should be slightly curled around the outer edge. with a circular motion give a firm tug in the clockwise direction. that's a similar kind of feel to the "full hit" portion of the throw has that happens at the end of the hammer-in. if you tug it with acceleration and get beyond 3 o'clock you should feel the wrist extend naturally. repeat the drill spinning disc right-side up with your index on the rim.
The old reciprocating dingle arm, eh? :) How does this tie with with "Swing into the tuck"? Bradley Walker's anti-poke-and-pull method. th-cam.com/video/03ZKYjuavaE/w-d-xo.html
In your mind is it better to start out the run up with internal shoulder rotation? (I imagine the lead hip would have to match the same relationship of internal rotation) I personally feel like if I set up with too much internal rotation I would take it to inside more often, although it looks like Paul Mcbeth starts out with his body fairly close to the target I'm also confused on why the long distance thrower would go from internal to external to internal again for his run up Always appreciate the great content you provide, what is your opinion on starting out the run-up neutral?
Not sure it really matters much starting the run up or backswing. There are a lot of difference ways to the top of the backswing. McBeth backswing starts with a forward pump out wide, then comes back into his body and then extends back out wide similar to Antti and Paige Pierce. Gurthie and Wysocki stay more inside and internal and the transition loads the arm into external. Ken Jarvis starts full external and then flips it and stays inside/internal like GG to top of backswing. Philo pumps forward wide and internal and then goes external to top of backswing. The commonality between all these players is on the forward swing going Inside-Out to release.
Ah gotcha, I see what you're saying much appreciated for the response, I hear a lot of different professional disc golfers talk about the pump that Paul Ulibari, or eagle McMahon, or Paul Mcbeth does to help create more consistency, My last question is do you happen to have any opinion on the pump?
@@tylerpohler3271 IMO the pump is the easiest way to learn to throw, helps sequence everything and rhythm and fluidity. Once you learn the pump it is easier to learn the Simon way keeping the disc more in place. th-cam.com/video/Qng28YrYTaw/w-d-xo.html
Antti's move looks so powerful even in slow motion. Your observation about disc path is something I haven't heard anyone else talking about. Good stuff!
Cool audio in the beginning, explains the start of your Turbo Encabulator video.
I'm still digesting your last video so my biggest take away from this video, from watching it once, is seeing how Antti Kotilainen stretches/loads both his anterior and posterior oblique slings at the top of his backswing. Really cool to see!
This is amazing-I double dragoned in the field today and got some looks for sure!
Relatable to every day life motions - excellent stuff for folks like me who go too far off the deep end into the rabbit hole. Thanks SW 👊🏻
Man you’ve been pumping out some great content lately
Another great video. Well done! Thanks for all you do. I’ve found this to be very helpful and useful drill.
Ive never thought about or heard anyone talk about rotating the shoulder. Everyone always says to keep your shoulder locked. Im very intrigued and cant wait to go to the field to try this out.
Thank you for all the content -
I am surprised more people/pros don’t incorporate the knee hike->plant with awkward standstill lies to get full(er) power. Nice drill.
@ 1:57 you mention the spine will be tipping targetward momentarily. Would you suggest incorporating this tip into your actual swing (or is it mainly used for this drill)? It feels quite nice.
Yep, it is the most efficient and natural way to move targetward just like walking or running, makes no difference whether you moving sideways or forwards or backwards.
Your looking very healthy!
This jar screwing feel - not many people talk about this drill but Blake talked about a plate drill later in the hammer pound thread. Are you feeling something similar to this ?
the plate drill (now attempt #5 at part 4):
if you sit in front of a an upside-down domey disc on a table, the point on the disc closest to you being 6 o'clock and the point farthest away from you being 12 o'clock, pinch your index and thumb on the edge of the disc at 12 o'clock. your wrist should be slightly curled around the outer edge. with a circular motion give a firm tug in the clockwise direction.
that's a similar kind of feel to the "full hit" portion of the throw has that happens at the end of the hammer-in. if you tug it with acceleration and get beyond 3 o'clock you should feel the wrist extend naturally.
repeat the drill spinning disc right-side up with your index on the rim.
Yeah, I think. Interesting I don't recall that drill, although I didn't get too deep into the hammer pound drills/thread.
The old reciprocating dingle arm, eh? :)
How does this tie with with "Swing into the tuck"?
Bradley Walker's anti-poke-and-pull method.
th-cam.com/video/03ZKYjuavaE/w-d-xo.html
you make it look easy
I can feel “it” when I do this drill. How to incorporate in the x step
When you kick back, take a step back with it into x-step/Hershyzer position and then go back forward.
@@seabas22 nice
In your mind is it better to start out the run up with internal shoulder rotation? (I imagine the lead hip would have to match the same relationship of internal rotation)
I personally feel like if I set up with too much internal rotation I would take it to inside more often, although it looks like Paul Mcbeth starts out with his body fairly close to the target
I'm also confused on why the long distance thrower would go from internal to external to internal again for his run up
Always appreciate the great content you provide, what is your opinion on starting out the run-up neutral?
Not sure it really matters much starting the run up or backswing. There are a lot of difference ways to the top of the backswing.
McBeth backswing starts with a forward pump out wide, then comes back into his body and then extends back out wide similar to Antti and Paige Pierce. Gurthie and Wysocki stay more inside and internal and the transition loads the arm into external. Ken Jarvis starts full external and then flips it and stays inside/internal like GG to top of backswing. Philo pumps forward wide and internal and then goes external to top of backswing. The commonality between all these players is on the forward swing going Inside-Out to release.
Ah gotcha, I see what you're saying much appreciated for the response, I hear a lot of different professional disc golfers talk about the pump that Paul Ulibari, or eagle McMahon, or Paul Mcbeth does to help create more consistency, My last question is do you happen to have any opinion on the pump?
@@tylerpohler3271 IMO the pump is the easiest way to learn to throw, helps sequence everything and rhythm and fluidity. Once you learn the pump it is easier to learn the Simon way keeping the disc more in place. th-cam.com/video/Qng28YrYTaw/w-d-xo.html
Anyone think this guy is a Mets fan?
Darryl Strawberry
@@seabas22 th-cam.com/video/DOFn8dWc1_g/w-d-xo.html