Reacting to Brett Cooper's Thoughts on P0rn
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- Matt Reacts to @TheCommentsSection appearance on a podcast where porn is discussed.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
3:12 Brett on Pron
8:01 Mental Health
9:56 Brett's Naturalistic(Soy-entific) outlook on Relationships
11:52 Relationship Statistics on Pron
13:30 Complacency of Men
16:12 Normalization & Access of Pron
19:40 PronHub v OnlyFans
23:40 Pron's Objective Evil
31:54 Unhealthiness of Pron
35:15 Fighting Pron
36:49 Lol-bertarian Arguments for Pron
42:43 Closing - บันเทิง
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Why do you as a Catholic use a website founded by a homosexual man depriving a child of a mother and leading it to sin, and an Israeli national who either doesn’t believe Jesus existed or that Jesus is in hell? (Dave Rubin and Assaf Lev)
can we please have the studies you referd to. i would love to read them fully myself
The interesting psychology is the less sex you have the first month
I mean no sex just talk and romantic gestures
the more you are attracted to the person
because you don't see him just like an object
you see him as a human being with wisdom, emotions, feelings, humor, nice hobbies
It is an interesting observation that if you wait to have sex, your point of view about the guy is much richer,
your love and attraction to him starts to be richer
and if you have the first sex after 2 or 3 months, it can be just plus
because the richer the point of view about him
his lifestyle, his values, his hobbies, music, science, knowledge
the richer experience can be sexually and romantically....after a few months of dating.
I am just guessing. I am not an expert.
But experts say
the same way you treat your sex life,
the same way you treat other areas of your life.
It's like you go to Paris, you don't want to see all the attractions and the Eiffel Tower on the first day.
You just want to get some coffee in a nice restaurant and introduce yourself to the city.
After a few days, you visit the attractions to absorb its beauty and interesting stuff about the city.
We live in a world of easily selling the product, just by clicking on the button
as television likes to promote this mindset
So it's obvious that this mindset is adopted also in the romantic areas, but it doesn't work that way.
People should be more natural.
so you are investing your attention into knowing him, even knowing his flaws that are meaningless
because you are interested in him as human, it's called imperfect perfection.
You see a tree that has an imperfect shape, or size but the tree is imperfectly perfect because of its natural beauty.
Nature is imperfect, and trees are imperfect, therefore they are imperfectly perfect in their beauty.
Therefore humans also should not try to look perfect but natural.
Porn Industry is evil but trying to swallow a whole pineapple is not going to happen. You need to study how the Socialist and Marxist take over the western culture because your current position is exactly how the west lost to Socialism and Marxism.
You can tell Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles are the only Catholics at the Daily Wire, considering they're the only ones taking any kind of hard stance on porn and its ilk there.
Shapiro takes a hard stand against porn. He wrote a whole book about it.
So does Candace Owens
@@abigailb7382 - Her husband is Catholic and she’s already said that it is the man’s responsibility to lead his family in faith. She has some questions, but based on those sorts of comments by her I think that she will become Catholic in a year or two. I also would not be at all surprised if Brett becomes Catholic. When Matt visited the Daily Wire several of them attended TLM (Traditional Latin Mass) with several of them - I’m assuming Matt Fradd, Michael, Matt W. and perhaps Candace and her husband. It would be wonderful if both DW women converted - for their sakes as well as so many others.
Brett Cooper is VERY young. When I was her age, I had similar ideas about consenting adults and was shy about telling people they were wrong in their personal sex lives. Like most young people, I was more libertarian, and had a naive point of view about "adult" behaviors. Honestly, she's much more reasonable than most people her age, and as she gains wisdom, she will probably come to understand why there is no such thing as healthy and happy fornicators.
They also aren’t part of Brett Cooper’s generation. Believe me as someone who is part of that generation, it’s shocking enough to find someone with Brett’s views expressed in this video. Our generation has been exposed to this evil since we were essentially children. We’ve been told it’s normal and healthy by almost every source of mainstream media we’ve been force fed, by the teachers in our schools, and by our peers. Parents often don’t get just how bad things are because they were never exposed to free internet porn, where you can see literally whatever you want at any second.
So be encouraging of the young adults today who are waking up to the evil that is porn. Be supportive of them, even if they don’t perfectly understand the full extent of how evil it is. Offer a prayer to St. Augustine that this generation can break free of the sexual deviancy that’s been thrust upon it.
“A hypocrite is not somebody who sometimes fails to live up to their standards”
This one hit me in the best way possible. Thanks for the quote Matt 👍
35:34 for the timestamp :)
@@fallingcrane1986 I figured someone would take care of that for me 😉 Thanks for that!
Be careful not to tell yourself that when you open an incognito window
35:35 - A hypocrite defined
If you're not a hypocrite, your standards are too low.
As an evangelical, this is the best thing I have ever watched Matt Fradd post! I love watching you preach Matt! I love how your Catholic roots establish your Christian worldview, and how you articulate it so well in response to something going on in our broken world. Keep it up brother.
I am lutheran, but as Matt says: "When theres a maniac at the door, feuding brothers become friends"
@@JezielProdigalSon Calvin Robinson said this.
@@fedyno4reviews Right, sorry.
Thanks for correcting me.
@@fedyno4reviewsno, it was Peter Kreeft who said it first.
@@stevenyoung3752 Well whoever said it, is a smart dude.
Matt said: ""You don't have to concede the argument just because you don't know how to defend your position." This is the most profound thing I have heard in a long while. It gave me pause. I always feel like I lose if I get caught up in an opponent's point. Thank you for giving me the confidence to say "I disagree, but I can't articulate it right now. let me get back to you later."
Shouldn't you reexamine your position if you have no good reason to hold it?
@@jamesk3612 yes, but not knowing how to defend your position on the spot is not the same as not having a good reason to hold onto it at all.
@@joshuadunham3018 if you can't define how you came to hold your positions or beliefs then you should reexamine them. What you're talking about is post hoc reasoning. It's working backwards from your conclusion.
@@jamesk3612 You seem to be arguing against some other idea besides the one the original commenter espoused, and which I thought you understood.
No one said anything about not being able to define how they came to hold their positions or beliefs in the first place. This discussion is about someone presenting a new argument you haven't thought of.
I'm sure if I went back in time to a hundred years ago, I could probably make some interesting, even convincing, arguments for a flat earth to someone without a college education from the 1920s. They could say, "Well, I don't know how to defend my position based on the knowledge I have now, so I guess I'd better abandon what I believe" and just change their entire view of the world based on what I said.
Or, they could they take the time to do research beyond what they were taught in middle school and get back to me.
The latter is what I assume Matt (and the commenter) were recommending.
@@joshuadunham3018 do you have discord? I'd be down to have a conversation about it. My position is that, yes, you should abandon your beliefs if you can't defend them. The null position is a lack of belief in something, if you are making a positive claim then you should have reasons (i.e. be able to defend) why you believe that thing.
When I was stationed in South Korea, pornography was banned. Sure, there were creative ways around it, American military personnel were often experts at accessing it. But, just the act of banning major sites and making it difficult to access made for a much more normal and sane society. The US should absolutely ban it. It’s not a free speech issue, as you don’t have a right to have sex in a public place. Now, you could require people to make accounts to access private websites, but even then pornography is not a free speech issue because 49 States ban prostitution, and pornography is a form of selling your body or that of another person or persons. We must push for an absolute ban on porn, with serious consequences. It might not be politically tenable now, but as society falls apart it turns to the Catholic way when things are dire. We know for a fact things will only get more dire, this is not sustainable.
More importantly, production of porn is illegal in South Korea. It's really a no-brainer for a state that cares about its people to protect young women from this sort of predation.
The porn firewall is a good thing. It's really easy to get around, but that extra barrier is nice. It stops kids from wandering into the stuff. I used to live in SK, and at the time I had no moral qualms about porn. I don't think the extra step of opening a VPN ever discouraged me from porn use. But it can't hurt.
In Mexico prostitution is supposedly illegal, but there are many businesses that front as spas or stylists but are actually brothels. But, you know, the "humane" type, the "fancy" types, the "nice massages with happy endings". Everybody knows, too. It's wild.
@@blankmantm2501 that is true of some areas of South Korea and here in California where I live too. Seems like the authorities aren’t doing their due diligence sometimes. There’s a lot of human trafficking happening in places like that.
Yet, Koreans problems with marriage and fidelity didn't improve.
I remember when we landed in South Korea, we were instantly told of using a VPN and it saved our lives 😂
Get Brett on the show so Thursday can make his move
Dooo iiit! Dooo it nooow!!!
Yuhhhhh
Amen brother.
Omg, poor Thursday! 🤦♀️🤣🤣
No pressure! Right, boys? 😂👍
No no no please stahp with the cringe 😬
Or continue 🤷
19:18 "“I don’t mean to be sarcastic, but… If your litmus test for what is healthy, good sexual act is “I’m not raping anybody”, then, bloody hell, you have fallen. And our idea of what man is has fallen soooo woefully short of where we should be.” Well said!
I am so sick of hearing about "consent" being the determining factor of whether something is morally acceptable or not. Most people would feel like an absolute sleeze and would be ashamed of themselves if they were actually in the room where the porn they were watching was actually happening. It wouldn't matter if the people engaged in the sex acts were consenting, most people would feel dirty. Porn is clearly wrong in all circumstances.
Well, we live in an age when most think it is our desire that makes something good, not the thing itself. So they utter pithy little platitudes like, “different strokes for different folks” and “what’s good for you may not be good for me.” They’ve utterly lost any cogent notion of morality, so they resort to a complete subjectivism. But no one really believes that deep down. Everyone draws the line somewhere.
Because too many people think of human beings as perfectly rational beings, always looking out for their best interests, which is just incorrect
And yet you haven't articulated an actual argument for why porn is wrong. I don't know what would compel me to visit a porn shoot, but I wouldn't feel like "an absolute sleeze" unless I were spying. But of course there would be no reason to do that.
Porn being wrong should be self evident. But here we are. Living in an age where we need to present “actual arguments”, and martial together studies by people with degrees against things that everybody knew was wrong for thousands of years purely by common sense.
Libertarian talking points took over the right, and the left was just content with it, while knowing they'd never accept in economically.
I love that Matt is fighting to bring up society's standards. It's such a necessary fight. I think the problem here is that conservatism is edging away from religion and looking at things too legalistically (almost like the Pharisees - just saying) instead of rooting one's view of the world through the eyes of Christ and living to join Him in heaven one day. Conservatism is never gonna fix these problems because it worships the founding fathers instead of the Father. I say this as a conservative, but I'll always be Catholic first and foremost.
These conservatives aren’t even worshiping the founding fathers, they’re worshiping warped, half-formed pictures of them. If you resurrected any of them and said, for instance, that you permitted pornography and banned prayer in schools based off the first amendment, they would be shocked and appalled, might even challenge you to a duel. None of them indicated they saw any conflict between the first amendment and blasphemy laws, which predated the revolution and continued to be passed over a century after the revolution. John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” James Madison wrote that our Constitution requires “sufficient virtue among men for self-government,” otherwise, “nothing less than the chains of despotism can restrain them from destroying and devouring one another.” Most conservatives can’t handle that, can’t accept that according to the founders themselves, this libertarian streak is incompatible with the structure of our country.
@@meglukes So glad to see somebody else who actually knows and understands what our founders truly said and meant. I point this out all the time.
@Megan okay, I see what you're saying, and I agree. The conservatism a lot of conservatives are subscribed to isn't even to the standards of the founding fathers they claim to follow. I can definitely see that in how we claim to be conserving freedom but have caved to certain moral and spiritual things because "it'sa free country" due to the lost logic that society should be held to a moral standard that says no to people doing whatever they want. You're right - people really don't understand what kind of country the founding fathers envisioned and how that deviates from this radical "freedom" that even conservatives push which may have dug us into the moral hole we are in today. Excuse my symbolism of the worship of the founding fathers, then. They're worshipping a false freedom that is blinding them from the further destruction they are causing by not barring societal behavior that is immoral.
Through the neo liberal framework rather then a Christian Framework*
Secular conservativism was never going to work, because without its objective moral base it turns into a "do whatever ya wanna do" libertarian attitude. But it can also lead to worship of the state or certain traditions. Where I live is said to be a very conservative country, though for many people conservativism means the worship of hazy, unscientific pagan alleged-traditions of our nation mixed in with some elements of Catholicism. I don't believe any type of -ism is good in itself if it lacks the fundamental teachings of the Bible.
These guys can literally listen to all the health, societal, and relational problems that arise with porn use, and come away thinking “porn’s not bad as long as there’s no trafficking.”
Funny enough the guy who said he stopped watching it and it improved his life.. agreed to everything she said except for the part that this made it bad. I'm not perfect by any means but if stopping something improved my life, I wouldn't think oh this thing is still good.
But there is trafficking. And it's rediculous the mental gymnastics that some people are willing to jump through to justify an industry where SOME participants are doing it of their own "free will" when many others are trafficked, groomed, coerced, etc. Imagine arguing that cigarettes are healthy and smoking should be encouraged just because not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer.
@@harrygarris6921 Porn stars are paid, adult professionals with their own websites and social media accounts. It isn't difficult to find them making appearances in mainstream media, or in interviews. Joanna Angel even stated in one interview that she receives so many applications she doesn't even have time to review them all. The horrifying trafficking incident involving the defunct "girls do porn" website is far from representative.
@@Thagomizer you’re talking about a relatively very small sample of the top 100-200 most successful people in an industry where there are tens of thousands of women. I don’t think I’m the one misrepresenting the reality of the industry here.
Wives must have more sex. THAT will solve a lot of problems.
Christian Women in general must stop demanding a whole life of marriage in exchange for sex.
I am a strong catholic and I’ve been struggling since a very young age. 22 now. Feels like I’m in a jail cell sometimes trapped by my desires. Still fighting it everyday. Have not made it past 3 weeks without doing it. Pray for me everyone please.
It may be because those are natural desires and the unnatural repression of every desire may not be healthy
@@bsauce__23bandzz88 I did and it didn’t help, it only made it worse
Southern baptist here😅 I’ll pray for you.. you shouldn’t have to go to a priest to be forgiven bud.. come to a southern church sometime 😅
Prayers for you David. You CAN stop. You have to choose it. Don’t make yourself a helpless victim.
Check out in this channel other talks on porn and also the resources they share for it...Matt has struggled too even after being married ( pretty sure that's his testimony) it's is NOT irredeemable YOU ARE LOVED, I've struggled as well , definitely try to talk to one person about it. Even just over the phone, or at least start with God, be brutality honest with God in prayer , say it outloud or write down ALL your thoughts about what you feel / think about sex and why you are struggling...just write ANYTHING you feel and LET IT OUT , honestly is the first step....I had to let my feelings out to God like " why can't I have this. It's so good!" Etc... from someone who is still tempted myself follow HOW - be Honest, then can you be Open to change? You will find yourself naturally open over time from being honest, then Willingness to follow God's true healthy design for s*x , God doesn't want obedience that is solely based of fear, He wants to love you into the the truth , if you fill yourself up with truth about God's design for s*x the temptation to use it will slowly lessen ♡
Matt, I'm a fellow Catholic. I have been following your work for a while and I thank you for allowing me the knowledge to fight against sexual sins in my life. I have been free of them ever since I followed your advice. God bless you and your family. ✝️♥️
Could you please point out to which videos helped you with that. Many people I know, me included, still struggle with that particular temptation.
@@DanteColburnI believe Matt has a free course of videos that are created to help you get free. Can’t remember what they are called but Google that and I bet it’ll come up!!
I think Matt has what >90% of “conservatives” are missing, which is the emphasis on a morally strong society. Without it, “limited government” just leads to chaos and despair, good conditions for tyrants to take over.
I think most conservatives recognize healthy morality is the foundation of a strong society.
Limited government isn't a bad idea in itself but it requires strong Christian societies. But these days the term is just synonymous with libertarian, ultra-legalistic approach to morality where consent, personal freedom and property rights are the only sacred things (not to say that these concepts are wrong, of course!). Libertarians don't take into account things that cannot be easily measured like social cohesion or the need to preserve history of your people, not to mention metaphysical things like faith (which is the most important for Christians). Their god is individualism.
but muh taxes
It's because people don't know what "limited government" means. It doesn't mean small or weak. It means within the natural limits which includes the execution of moral justice.
@@2righthands816 the idea behind limited government is that the people can govern themselves. Self-government is only possible with strong moral character, on both the personal and societal scale.
As a traditional evangelical Christian, I have always been impressed with how deeply the Catholic church cares about the theology of the body (and how we are to use it). Thank you, Matt, for bringing clarity to the issues of lust and pornography. I now have a better handle on how to approach this topic because of watching your videos recently. Newly subscribed and looking forward to watching more!
Theology of the body was my sex education (my parents took me out of sex ed classes at high school). It is such a rich and beautiful treasure
@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 What are you on about?
@SillyCupcake I don't know what you think about our communities, but women knowing about sex has always been important for Catholic households because you can't avoid what you don't know.
Catholic priests can't resist cigars, you think any of them can resist sex?
@SillyCupcake It may be true that some Catholics avoid talking about this, and that's part of the work to come; for girls and young women to learn about the beauty and goodness of their sexuality, and the plan God has for all of us
Thank you Matt for always calling people higher! It’s such a difference from all the voices in the world telling people to just do whatever they want.
The editing it so so good here. I’ve never watched such a long reaction/response video and stayed this engaged.
Watching this as someone that has struggled with a pron addiction(spelled it wrong on purpose) for years now, I kept saying "sounds like me" a few times here.
Those reading this, please keep me in your prayers as I try to fight this demonic obsession I have. Thank you and thank you Matt for all the great work you do. I ordered a "Reclaim the month" shirt, can't wait to show it off around town!
Definitely saying a prayer for you!
Keep your focus on God. We naturally gravitate toward what we think about, so even if your focus is "Porn is bad, I should avoid porn", you're still giving a lot of your mental time and effort to the negative thing. If you instead focus on how great Jesus is and on seeking to have the mind of Christ and think about the things He does, I think you'll find it much easier to avoid.
Also, we tend to act in alignment with what we think we are. If you think being an addict is a deep part of your identity, you will probably continue to act like an addict even though you don't want to be addicted. On the other hand, if you are in Christ and really are a new creation, focus on this new identity in Christ and ask God to help you believe you are what He has already made you to be: one of HIs holy people. If you are a new creation in Christ, your core identity is His own righteousness, not the sins that you have struggled with. There is still temptation sometimes-after all, even Jesus did not get a pass on temptation-but there is power to overcome that temptation instead of being enslaved to it.
Said a prayer for you. I know it is hard to beat this addiction. God is able! 🙌🏼Thanks for your honesty ♥️
@@joshuadunham3018
Thank you! I really appreciate the advice, I take that to heart ❤️
@@latenightladybug4505
Thank you so much! Much love, God is good, all the time ❤️
Prayers for you! Don’t fight it alone. God is with you 🙏
This entire conversation has further strengthened my conviction that the inclusion of Libertarian memes (ideas) within the Conservative movement has been detrimental to us. Memes such as "if two consenting adults do x why should you care. etc."
Yup. Libertarianism is no better than leftism imo
@@kamarwashington Eh, they're slightly preferable. Libertarians are the cowards who run away while the enemy forces invade. At least they aren't the invaders, but they definitely aren't helping
libertarianism? More like libertinism.
Yes! People should do what I want them to 🙌
@@nonpolar786 You want people to do what you want them to as well. That’s not inherently wrong
Thank you Matt, loving the reaction videos.
Praying for you and your wife! I’m so proud of you representing us as Catholics but like Fr Mike Schmitz I worry for that attacks you will face from the devil because you are ticking him off so much for speaking up for truth. Praying you stay strong, humble, and faithful! ❤
I once heard an audibook on a pornstars experiences (would not recommend now since it's very explicit), but what stayed with me is that she could not admit being raped since she told herself that this is what she agreed to when becoming a pornstar (being used sexually whether she liked it or not), she was told that the best pornstar was a woman who never complained even when in extreme pain and that she was choked to the point of nearly dying all for an "aggressive" porn video. I'm still struggling with lust, but porn is something I left behind. A quote that also inspires me daily is from 'if we were villains': "It was maddening how beautiful she was, but did that make the rest of her any less real?" and from Les miserables from Fantine when she is so desperate she turns to prostitution "don't they know the're making love to one already dead", espcially the latter hits really hard since the song starts playful, but gradually you see the anger and sadness break through, it makes you realise that many women are also likely acting fun in the porn industry but deep down they are broken and in need of true love. May god have mercy on them all and lead them to a healthy and happy life! 🙏
What’s so sad is stuff like this happens to a lot of women even in romantic relationships, it’s not exclusive to pornography, just a patriarchal society
@@nonpolar786What dies patriarchy have to do with anything? Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob have nothing to do with the owners of P0rn Hub.
Most people put the focus on protecting women when it comes to porn. It's good that all the terrible things that women go through to produce it are highlighted and remembered. What needs to not be forgotten is how much men are also exploited. Men are the main consumers and porn is so addictive. It drains the porn addict of normal motivation for life and relationships. It also ruins what could have been a healthy relationship between married people.
I'm a protestant but I really appreciate your perspective on this and other issues. It seems at every stage porn is destructive.
This was posted literally while I was watching that interview. Cool to see you react, also funny at the timing.
Nice editing, Thursday - I liked the few bits you added, but I also appreciated that there weren't too many, as distractions.
Also, being a long time subscriber of PWA and watching how you two cooperate, it seems to me that at this moment Matt feels quite more confident and relaxed. You have his back - not only in technical matters. It helps the show a lot! You're doing a good, reliable job, even when it's "invisible".
Great video, Matt. I think the best litmus test to expose pornography as evil is to ask your self whether or not you would be happy if a loved one was in a pornographic video (daughter, son, etc.). Deep down I think we all know its wrong. Something that I try to be conscious of to help resist the desire to look at porn is the simple fact that everyone featured in pornographic content is someone's daughter or son. If we wouldn't want our own loved ones involed in pornograpghy, than we shouldn't want anybody's loved ones in it. How shameful it is to be okay with somebody else's daughter in a pornographic video. Even if a person in porn denies the fact that what they are doing is wrong, they are probably causing much untold pain to their mother, father, children, etc. I think porn has been way more damaging to society than most people realize. It scares the hell out of me when I think of how easy it is for very young people to access extremely vulgar content and how damaging it is to their mind and soul, and how they will potentially bring extremely toxic sexual habits into their marriages, hurting their future spouses and themselves. I truly don't think we've seen the worst of it yet. Lord help us.
Good point.
Depends on the person. Would I be happy if this person was a maladjusted wreck with addictions, attachments, and other issues? No, and I would be concerned for him or her. Would I be happy if they were an ambitious, talented, studied, and tough-minded person who knew exactly what they were doing and loved it? "Happy" is probably too strong a word, but I would appreciate the fact that they found their niche and trust their judgement. Watching their porn would be weird, though.
And "S/he's someone's son/daughter!" is a no sequitur. Do you need to be reminded of this when you go on a date, or are intimate with your spouse? They're an adult, just like you, and should be respected as such.
"A sign of manhood is having your lower passions subject to your reason"
Love that Matt
Fantastic! I needed to hear all this thank you!
Thank you Matt (and everyone @PintsWithAquinas) for your continuing work and faithful service in this fight. Praying for you and your ministry!
Love the clarity this sheds on the immortality of pornography. Thankful for the clarity of Catholic thought on this topic. Keep it up, Matt.
Oh I'm glad you found it clear. Can you summarize why porn is evil for me? I had a hard time following Matt's arguments
@@jamesk3612 Spoiler: there were none
@@nonpolar786Oh there were, but okay.
Any opportunity to speak about p○rn is important for you to take Matt.
I push your book like crazy.
I am highly aware of the damage that p○rn does. We are blessed to have THEOLOGY OF THE BODY.
Non-Catholics can really use our help.
This comment is for you Thursday. You are the GOAT!
I’m sure you do a lot more than just edit and not sure how big the Pints team is so, at the risk of sounding ignorant, I just have to say…
I haven’t watched a Pints vid in awhile and I was blown away with all the little effects, sounds, everything, throughout this one. SO GOOD!!
It makes me feel like you are a part of the vid without physically being in the vid. So it’s like a window into getting to know you more which is cool because I know this channel is so much more than Matt/just what we see in the vids. (Matt you’re great too obviously)
The editing (ahem, *you*) does a great job to amplify the content instead of interrupt it or distract from it like I’ve seen in other random, otherwise decent quality, vids on my recommended feed.
It meshes seamlessly into the video and into Matt’s personality as well which has a compounding effect that makes his content better and amplifies the information he’s sharing.
Matt, you found a great employee! Hope to run into you both one day so I can buy y’all a beer (or iced coffee 🧊☕️)!
I loved The Porn Myth and have been enjoying all your recent podcasts on this topic. I also laughed really hard at Thursday's editing about the German incident. Keep up the good work!
She was pretty based honestly. All she needs is Christ as her strong foundation and she'll be unstoppable
Exactly, I can see so much potential. She has often defended Chritians in the past, I feel she has knowledge on Christiananty, but is still a little unsure and maybe scared to share the faith.
Thanks for your work Matt, because unfortunately it's physically impossible for me to comment on anything related to the p*rn industry without fed-posting
Great commentary! And Brett Cooper did a great job, especially thinking of all that on the spot.
When you said something along the lines of "if your litmus test is that you aren't rap#$ng anyone you have fallen so far" that hit like a ton of bricks. Hope you don't mind me stealing that, Matt. Perfect response to modern sexual behavior.
I think the hard thing about society is accepting dignity and objectivity.
If your argument for porn is “well if there’s no human trafficking then it’s not that bad,” you might want to take a step back
New subscriber after watching just two minutes. Thank you for sharing principled arguments so frankly. My generation seems allergic to speaking moral truths without equivocating.
“Porns good”. “I also quit it and my life is drastically improved”. Call them out on this, if porn is so good or at least “not bad” why did you quit? Why are you embarrassed to tell your grandmother you did it? It’s an inherent evil and children of God are ashamed of it by nature, why is it so hard to admit it’s bad?
Keep in mind Brett is 21 and has not reached an age of 'wisdom'. She is a conservative, but she probably has not been exposed to Matt's arguments before, and probably wouldn't have a well reasoned response.
Also she is not religious as far as I know
i feel like a lot of her opinions are formed according to her audience's liking. Lot of men there are claiming to be conservative, but are big porn addicts so i think she kinda wants to appeal to them
Thank you Matt for reacting to this and doing so and such a generous way! People are going to come across a lot of creators they agree with but maybe don't know how to respond when a figure believes something that isn't good at all or maybe there's more needed discussion/clarification!
Just bought your book. Excited to read it! As someone that falls on the cusp of millennial and Gen Z, and as a now very devout Catholic, I think this topic is very important for people my age. I also really do like Brett Cooper. I think she is very smart. I’m a little bit older than her so I have to put on my perspective hat sometimes when I listen to her. She makes very good arguments but they could be a little deeper. I think that will come as she continues to mature intellectually. But she had all the points down and I’m glad she has a voice right now
Thursday’s editing is so good
Finally! An Excuse to have Brett on the show!
Thank you Matt for all you do. You were the major help in this.
thank you for working on this! We need to go back to aspire to more as a humanity!
I’m literally so happy that this is being brought out of the shadows and being talked about in a frank and loving way that we know this a a problem and that there is hope for putting it to bed
Consent based morality is modernist garbage (which American conservatives often still implicitly defend). Adults consenting to an action doesn't necessarily make that action morally licit (ex- 2 twin brothers above the age of 18 both consent to sexual intercourse, this is obviously morally evil, but under the purview of consent based morality there isn't a reason to argue that this evil, as both parties equally consent). This line of thinking embraces the subjectivist view of morality that got us in this mess in the first place.
Yes, this is exactly it 🙌 I've never heard the term "consent based morality", but it's on point. The lowest form of fake morality
@SillyCupcake1. you say the world isn't black and white, yet argue that incest should be illegal (I obviously agree) which is a categorical (black and white statement) your logic isn't consistent here.
2. Not everyone who disagrees with you is projecting. Not everyone is a sexual degenerate. I simply used a classical example that is commonly used to dispute the flaws in consent based morality. One can use murder as an example without literally being a murderer. Not everything is a projection all the time, humans are able to use their rational facilities to make arguments.
Okay I will play devil's advocate on this, the separation of church and state ensures that the government ensures the social common good of the people and the church ensures the spiritual common good of the people, so if two twin brothers or twin sisters have sexual relations with each other which they both know is morally bad but they decided to do it anyway I would think they would do it in secret and not tell anybody which they have every right to do as two consenting adults that's why there is a separation of church and state to begin with so the church won't interfere with people's basic freedom's that go against religious legality as long as these freedoms do not interfere with the basic common good of the people that's why people have the right to talk things over with their respective religious director because the state ensures one of the basic human freedoms of the right to practice their religion of choice now a part of that freedom of religion means Traditional Catholics should have the right to voice their opinion against lgbtq and have the right not to participate and things that involve lgbtq which they have the constitutional right to do as long as it doesn't go any farther than that since both parties rights must be respected under the law of the government which ensures the social common good of the people so if traditional Catholics have a problem that goes beyond that they have the right to talk it out with their spiritual director. (I'm a traditional catholic myself but it's in my nature as a rebel to play devil's advocate time from time 😈)
@@odanobunaga7584 you should reconsider your belief in seperation of church and state. It really isn’t consistent with Christian (especially catholic) beliefs.
@@deus_vult_1099 I know it's not that's why I said I will play Devils abvocate, the separation of church and state is Freemasonic not Catholic, but only a Catholic King or Queen can lead a Catholic America but America is a White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant nation to begin with when it broke away from the King of England what is more interesting is the first people to land on United States was Catholic Spanish from Spain the Catholic history of United States is there but America was going to go that route anyway because Free Masonic America needed to complete manifest destiny, the truth is America the government is not Protestant or Catholic but Free Masonic, and the early turn-of-the-century revolutions that happened in France United States and Venezuela were all Free Masonic, I think Denmark and Iceland still have church and state united under the Lutheran Church maybe more countries do to buy have to do more research, I'm a scholar but don't claim to have all the information to all the answers but it's a interesting conversation for sure.
The edits are straight fire. That Steubenville powder is showing in these latest videos.
The editing on this is fantastic 😂👏🏼
The consenting adults conversation ONLY takes into consideration the man watching it and the woman creating it.
Does the spouse of the addict have enough information to consent?
If she did, that wouldn’t make it okay would it? Many secular couples watch porn together
@@lebeccthecomputer6158 Why wouldn't it be OK?
@@Thagomizer if you’re Catholic, or any Christian really, there are things that are sinful even with full consent of all affected parties.
Based on other comments you left I get the impression that you’re coming here looking for opposition (I don’t mean that in a negative way, I do it too). So I should clarify and say that I’m not a Christian, nor do I care if you watch porn
I think a better way to reframe this is "rational consent."
A person watching porn in the moment because they have a great physical impulse in conjunction with predatory advertising from the industry is not thinking rational when they choose to watch. Much like an alcoholic who in a straight mind knows alcohol is bad for him but is overcome by great urge in certain circumstances.
The libertarians have this ridiculous idea that we should always do what people want in the moment, not what they would want in the long term.
@@lebeccthecomputer6158Divorce imminent.
Referring specifically to your assertion that porn is inherently wrong (like molestation) as opposed to gambling: Can you provide a reason for a non-believer (e.g. outside the Bible) that porn is wrong?
No, they really can't.
Non believers are too stupid and ignorant to understand anything. Talking to them in most cases is worthless.
Matt thank you man. Love these pods my friend.
Thank you Matt for having the courage to call out evil and having the keen ability to cut through the lie that no one has the right to speak out about someone else doing an objectively evil action as long as they “consented.”
Here before Kyle Whittington and Halley Lujah
We just need the Wednesday now
Based
Literally hopped on one minute after it was released.
Priorities.
Thursday is nutty what a good producer/editor, he's added so much obvious value to this channel
more proof that cigarettes are what made America great in the mid 20th century
Thank you, Matt, and thank you, Brett! Awesome and necessary content.
I have literally just finished watching the Iced Coffee Hour with Brett Cooper and when it came to the porn section, I had to write a lengthy comment on what they were saying! The reasoning behind what the men were saying absolutely baffled me and boiled a bit of my blood. I even went so far as to mention Matt Fradd, his books and talks as a resource for anyone struggling. While watching the original video, I exclaimed in disagreement, but I don't imagine I will be doing that with this video. I cannot wait to hear what he has to say on what Brett and the two guys said.
I died laughing at the opening of this vid 😆Love you Matt Fradd!!
Well done on this Matt, God bless brotha
I enjoyed this review. Thanks Matt. ❤
Love this new content from 85% scale Matt
Pretty soon this show is just going to be "Matt Fradd reacts to Ben Shapiro employees' banal opinions about porn"
*With Aquinas
I see it as him trying to get more exposure. Talking about how bad porn is needed.
@@spyroluver0951 I don't have any problem with reaction videos, but I don't like it when people pay attention to these people. I try very hard to forget that they exist, so i don't appreciate it when I'm reminded that they do.
@@josephbrandenburg4373 - There there
@@josephbrandenburg4373 who?
Hi Matt (or Thursday if you're reading this), I was wondering if you had any suggestions for podcasts/shows that are like yours. I love your content so much and I was wondering if there is anyone who you enjoy watching that is like your own. Thanks!
Great comments section reference, with the iced coffee too. So proud of you, old man!
“Pornography sends souls to hell”
Phenomenal, Matt !!!
Proof?
If porn se d me to hell then just about nothings gonna get me to heaven
23:55 - 29:00ish is so good by Matt, needs to go viral!
Its so frustrating how the vast majority of people today that are the hosts’ and Brett’s age don’t think subordinating their personal dignity to the pleasure of sex in pornography is in itself wrong. They think it’s “empowering” if they’re intentionally doing it, and think it’s not harmful to themselves or morally wrong. Not sure how to make that point. Maybe I need to get your book.
@@brodicox2031I got a notification when it uploaded and watched. TH-cam’s time stamps are off it seems.
I’m not trying to make a snarky comment, just thinking about how to get across to people as I feel like that’s always the disconnect.
What makes you or Matt the judge of someone's personal dignity? Would you say the same about an actor who stars in bad B movies, a primadonna's housekeeper, a dumpster diver, a panhandler, or a toilet attendant? Why or why not?
@@Thagomizer Yeah I think you're asking a good question, which is what I was wondering about too. But I think it does objecively feel to everyone that porn is undignified. I.e., No one would easily admit they're happy that their daughter does porn, and I think that tells us something.
It may have to do with what sex is for - for love with a spouse and potential reproduction. It's inherently for the couple, and not for more than that. And they'd be wrong to make it so. There's an old Norm McDonald joke: how do I know sex is dirty? Because we always close the blinds. Once sex ceases to become servant, it becomes a tyrant (GKC) - we easily see that in society. Cleaning toilets, acting in bad movies, is still dignified work (it's work done for the good of others). Pornography is done for the detriment of the performers and others (even if many mistakenly think it is a good)
@@Thagomizer pornography is harmful and addictive. I have exactly as much respect for pornographers as I do for drug dealers. A toilet scrubber or garbage collector is infinitely more respectable, because they do not profit from other people's addictions.
🎉🎉such great content! Thank you for speaking to this. God bless!
Awesome video, brilliantly covered as usual. You need to interview now born again Christian ex porn star Chrissy Moran, who has since had a ministry to those who were in or wanting to be in that industry.
It's so bad because it is a sin and sin creates chaos and chaos creates destruction - every sin created is one more move closer to destruction (as Jordon Peterson says) acts are not random. But I guess people don't really care that much about sin. ..... but they should care about destruction.
End all sin
Sin is like smoking; it takes a seemingly long time to see the fallout. It's a 1 minute I'm happily sinning my life away and then you wake up at 60 and your life is in ruins and you're wondering how it happened.
Technical comment: Matt, or Thursday, please even out the volume levels between the original and Matt's comments. I had to boost the volume during the interview, then turn it down when Matt was talking, as it was a drastic difference. Thank you!
Keep going, Matt. Keep speaking up.
As cradle Catholic Brazilian I feel compelled to say: Cold coffee is heresy!!! 😝😝😝😅😅
Im a fan of Brett but its important to understand that she is not religious at all. The fact that she has arrived at her stance on porn without a christian worldview is admirable but it explains why there are some gaps in her views on porn.
When did she say she wasn’t religious?
@Kelli Kocha I have heard her say it a couple of times. I don't remember which episodes or timestamps but she has mentioned it. But she also doesn't make a big deal of it l, as if she's hostile to religion. She's definitely not.
I get the idea that she is open to Christianity but still unsure and wary of it, maybe? I'm praying that God opens her eyes to the Truth 😊 He is able!!!
@@latenightladybug4505 Same!
She's basically like I was at a similar age in my early twenties. Not religious, but agnostic though interested in history, art, philosophy of religion. I had similar thoughts, arriving at them from secular or natural reasons. It's possible that she may become religious later, but it takes a faith experience to move someone that is consciously agnostic, no matter how sympathetic or interested they are in an academic way.
Thank you for creating Strive 21. Despite my concern about the danger of shame and condemnation that you allude to earlier in this video in one spot, I’m very grateful that you invested so much time and energy to write your book and to create this resource to help with truth and love.
The question "should porn be banned" is an extremely reliable moral barometer to determine the kind of person you're dealing with.
@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 and now I know what kind of person you are.
As in, are we dealing with a totalitarian, or not?
@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 Cringe.
This is like saying fraud or murder shouldn't be illegal, because it's our duty not to sin.
It's not good for society.
It would be better if there was no demand for it, but because of our fallen nature, there always will be.
@@Thagomizer Do we believe in exploiting or protecting human beings?
Since 1984 there have been over 500 American porn actors who have died prematurely all of whom were under age 40. These deaths involved alcohol fueled car crashes, suicide, heart attacks, murder, and drug overdoses. The industry has an psychological effect on those involved. A few people have long careers and can handle it, but those are an exception.
And what about their family life if they had any... Would they advice for their children to watch it? Are they good role models? Is all everlasting vices till they rot. If that's the way they treat themselves how can we expect for them to show sacrifice, compassion and responsibility for anybody?
Matt, I'd love to see you challenge Brett and these guys to look into the research that has been done on porn. Just a few studies would probably be enough to change their vague position of "I feel like people can do what they want" into "sweet beans, porn is destroying our entire society, ban it all." Great video though, as always!
Matt, what program would you recommend for young men and women who want to get free from porn? I am involved with people dealing with porn addiction. I've read many books, but we don't know which program to recommend. Thank you for all you do!
He has links posted in the description, Strive 21 was one he created
I like how you go through different points or add key information instead of saying exactly what the person said and move on.
And here naive little me was thinking that sex is how you express your love for the partner you are married to for life.
It's not for expressing love. It's for making children for God. It's not to enjoy
@@MangyPLit’s meant to be enjoyed between husband and wife but WITH the possibility of bringing new life into the world. No protection. That’s the way God designed it. It strengthens the marriage bond.
@@Sebwojdalowicz enjoying sex is a sin
@@MangyPL No it’s not. Your theology is screwed up. Have you even read the Bible? Song of Songs? Satan has perverted sex. God wants it to be enjoyed within the confines of Biblical marriage. Sex is a pillar of marriage. If enjoying sex is a sin, tell me why it feels good? It’s a biologically pleasurable experience. It’s in the design. The church makes sex seem like some sort of dirty act, but it really isn’t in the confines of marriage. Proverbs 5:18-20 literally says to enjoy your wife’s breasts 😂. “The apostle Paul taught that a godly marriage should include frequent and satisfying sexual intimacy (1 Corinthians 7:3-5).”
@@MangyPL Proverbs 5:18-20 (literally says to enjoy your wife’s breasts 😂, and to be intoxicated by her love)
1 Corinthians 7:3-5 (Paul writes that married couples shouldn’t deprive themselves from sex (unless agreed for some time), as it strengthens their bond.
Songs of Solomon (an entire book in the Bible about why sex is great thing). If sex wasn’t meant to be enjoyed (within the confines of Holy marriage), why the heck does it feel good by biological design? I think your theology is screwed up brother
Brett Cooper is cool, hope her and Thursday get married
The short speech Matt gives at 33:38 is one of the most beautiful yet heartbreaking things I have ever heard. Thank you for all that you do Matt.
At 31:00 he starts with natural law. Thst is what's been discarded. Underpinning natural law is God's law.
5 Espresso shots Matt is such a mood 🤣
Keep on being awesome!
Always excellent
Whenever people say “I don’t believe in xyz, but I don’t believe in telling other people what to do…” they are being selfish. They should charitably help people understand how they are harming themselves.
Yaaaass 🙌🙌
What if someone’s an atheist?
@@nonpolar786 I think "xyz" isn't meant to be God, but rather a principle, like "I don't believe in the idea humans can change genders". And if one believes that this idea is harming people, then they should try lovingly help others understand why
@@rosedevine440 The problem with a statement like “humans can’t switch genders” is that it’s verifiably false, even if you don’t want to recognize it , trans people have existed, currently exist, and will always exist. I perceived the original comment to be referring to something more opinionated like pornography is bad, which is not a verified claim, in which case there should be no reason to tell any other individual what to do with it
@@nonpolar786 I don't think it's verifiably false, gender is inextricably linked to sex. The term is used to refer to roles or characteristics of women and men, but even when a male has some characteristics commonly associated with females, they are still male.
And as to your second point, the claim that pornography is bad for us is verified (I can send you some sources if you'd like).
Also, many truths are not "verified" by modern society, so I tend not to use popular consensus as a marker. Instead we should rely on reason, science and intuition. Once the truth is found using these, it is our moral responsibility to uphold it.
Was waiting for Matt to mention Thursday 😂
Hi Matt, around the 28 minute mark you made a good point about “the opposite of love is use” and this doesn’t just apply to pornography, but any system of pure utilitarianism. What would you say this principle can explain about the current form of capitalism in the US?
I love how non-milquetoast this is. You refused to just accept porn as being okay because everyone consented, which is often treated as the only virtue and only requirement. And I love the explanations of love and humanity. Stellar video
Brett is truly mindful and I appreciate her talking about this. Thank you for making this video sir.
Excellent video, thank you!
Any chance of coming back to Baltimore? I’ve recently come to the Catholic faith and would love to hear your thoughts in person
I just got my 'reclaim the month T-shirt' in the mail today!
The "consenting adult" argument only works if you are sovereign over your body and your soul. Guess what everyone, you aren't. God is sovereign! You were created. You didn't create yourself, and you do not belong to yourself. This is why self destructive behaviors are wrong. It simply isn't your "right" to do whatever you want with your own body.
@Russell Phelan Correct me if I am wrong but I think the Catholic Church condemned individualism.
@@2righthands816none of our founders are catholic
So, you're admitting that your arguments only work if you presuppose God?
@@CoffeeAddictEvan Yes. ABSOLUTELY.
@@mement0_m0ri geez, that's a new low
I was addicted and during my recovery, I was watching an interview that was posted on 'Fight the new Drug' with a woman who had been trafficed via this disgusting industry. And I recognized her... and my heart sank because I realized that I had derived pleasure from watching somebody be assaulted. At the time I had no idea, but it doesn't change how awful it made me feel and it was one of the most important steps in my recovery.
my response to those boys would be something that for something to be a moral good the intention and the action must be morally good. The action of porn is not moral good because the action is wrong and the intention behind it is always wrong. Making Porn is never for good intentions it’s for greed and lust. Thank you Matt for all you do! I have been reading your book and it’s amazing.
Saying porn destroys marriage is like saying guns kill people... At some point humanity has to own up to it's own failures...
Keep justifying your addictions and perversions. Coomer.
Guns don’t change a persons brain. Porn physically changes the brain
Adultery kills marriage, does it not? Bad analogy
There is no pure or good use of porn. Guns can be defended as having a good and right place in society.
@@RCGWhowell said
Matt, thank you for always standing on the side of truth and the standard that we are called by Christ to live by. This video was amazing, as we must be steadfast in our condemnation of this great evil that has plagued our society and that has poisoned the great good that is our sexuality given to us by almighty God. God bless!!!