Zack Snyder's Justice League - SPOILER Talk!
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ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE has been out for a few days, so now let's get spoilerish in this spoiler talk about the film!
#ZackSnydersJusticeLeague #JusticeLeague #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
I'm 100% sold on this justice league now. If WB really takes another 10 years setting up another justice league team that'll be such a waste.
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Waiting on your take in regards to all of this
Big fan, spider man
Wb is in a weird spot, because there are fans that like the snyder vision, but also lots of haters, that hate snyder so they hate everything he does, marvel fan nerds that hate in the movie to prevent it from happened, and you have the pink superman fans that hate the whole snyder vision
So wb is kinda trapped at the middle lol
Exactly and I know it'll be worse
Apparently Joker was not planned to be in the Knightmare scene at the end, but they included him because Snyder had always wanted to do a scene with Batman and Joker and he knew this might be his last opportunity ever.
not exactly. Snyder filmed the final scene with Batman and the new Green Lantern (John Stewart) but WB didnt want their new superhero revealed in this movie, so Zack threatened to quit, and as a compromise he was allowed to film one new scene with Joker and he agreed to replace Green Lantern with Martian Manhunter.
@@TheNegativeDude your talking about a different scene and a different story
@@TheNegativeDude No he agreed to use MM instead of GL, the whole Batman/joker thing is a different story. The guy above is right.
@@TheNegativeDude that's not correct bro. He wanted Green later fly in after Bruce woke up. But he had to settle with MM
@@tjpowell234 Yep, WB still found a way to slightly screw his vision up. Snyder even had casted an actor for GL before.
I love how Steppenwolf kinda stumbles back nervously when Darkseid is about to appear on the holophone. It says so much about both characters in two seconds.
Ugh the way he retracts his armor too...
omg i love that scene, his face, he turned his back not knowing what was going to happen next(waiting for an answer from dessad)....so well done/acted. chills, just chills
OMFG I NEED MORE!!!
If DC blue balls all of us, I'm gonna bust their nuts with Darkseid's Mother's box.
@@Raprankster Drink your Haterade all you want. You probably didn't even believe the Snyder Cut would come out.
I actually enjoyed Steppenwolf in this version. He has motive
"She's five thousand years old Barry. Every guy is a younger guy"
Probably the best humorous moment of the film. Fisher delivers the line with a wonderful dismissive deadpan.
@@andrewconrad2859 that line delivery was so well done. Just based off this alone, Ray Fisher should receive an Oscar. Splendidly done.
"Dig out Superman? Check."
That was a good line.
@@MrBepis-qx5ye We'll need a whole new awards category: "Best humorous one liner in a 4 hour superhero epic" Competition should be basically none.
I love how Steppenwolf looks so damn intimidating but when the camera pulls closer. His eyes looks like a sad lost puppy about to cry....or was that just me? Lol
I felt the same. ESP the scene where he’s like begging to come home lol
Definitely wasn't just you, I noticed it too & it made me feel sad seeing how desperate he was
Dude his face when Desaad said he owed Darkseid 50,000 worlds...saddest shit ever. No cap.
@@aseem2985 seriously.. he looked like this 🥺...I was telling myself " o god, don't feel bad for him dont feel bad for him. He's suppose to be evil! Stop looking like that"...🥺..."stop it!".....🥺...."OO poor Steppenwolf! 😭"
I fully agree. His eyes, they were animated really well by the VFX team. Great job on their part making him look almost adorable
Lois: What does "S" stand for?
Clark: In my world means SYNDERCUT
Periodt 😆💅🏼 lmao
Lmao👏🏼
Jason Lee said it means Syndreman
On point dude🤣👌
We are in his world.
Joker seems more aware of the multiverse when he says he wonders how many worlds Batman doomed by letting Lois Lane die.
Madness is often adjacent to prophecy. At least in Lovecraft
Could be an Injustice reference
With all the Apokolips ships in the air it seems more likely that the resurrected Kal-El in that universe sided with Darkseid.
I don’t think that’s the same joker honestly. The tattoos on his face are missing. Im wondering if he’s from a different universe and that’s why Batman is traveling with him.
I thought about that but it could also still be true if it took place in the same world. If Lois Lane dies and Superman becomes Injustice, he allows Darkseid to continue living which means he keeps to keep traveling the universe and destroying worlds. If Superman were to remain himself and kill Darkseid, he'd ultimately be saving countless worlds that would have been destroyed.
“Never send a boy wonder to do a mans job” Jesus Christ...
what was that in reference to in the film?
@@rishabh5750 in the Batman comic book “Death in the Family” the joker kills Robin with a crowbar and if I recall correctly, in BvS movie you can see a Robin suit with “HA HA HA” written all over it
@@carlosrrr2011 your answer frustrated me
Joker suddenly Eminem.
@@carlosrrr2011 I still don’t get it lol
The only complaint I have is I wanted Darksied to keep his hands behind his back
Same!! He was still a badass, but a Darkseid with hands behind his back is absolute masterpiece
He did briefly and that was enough for me
He did right before he turned towards the Boom Tube. You can see he lowering his hand right after he's turn.
I agree!!!!
The fact that he used his omega beams was enough for me
"And make no mistake, I will fucking kill you" - Batman. Scariest line in the entire movie lol
I fucking loved this version of Bats. Affleck carried that scene for me. Leto was still a little meh
The dialogue for that scene was so great
Batman swearing sounds weird to me
@@yinyang8259 Leto wasn’t bad at all imo. He wasn’t as good as Heath and Joaquin but I think he did very well
I didn’t realize he was talking about Harley Quinn at that part until I rewatched the clip
I really can't imagine why anyone would pick a cgi mustache removal over a galactic conqueror getting his head cut off.
WB wanted to "Marvelize" the movie thus hiring Joss and literally cutting movie in half and rewriting dialogue and reshooting scenes especially the finale. Joss agreed to bend the knee to Warner Bros overlords smfh
@@ChineduOpara Nope. They still are.
That killing was badass, it shows how pg13 crap ruins movies
I feel like Joss purposely sabotaged the movie
Well snyder haters still claims joss version is way better, and all the bad parts from his movie are the snyder parts xD
Jor-El: “Your heart was tested”
Jonathan Kent: “I know it’s been hard, Clark.”
Jor-El: “But you gave hope to their world”
Jonathon Kent: “You need to show them who you are.”
Jor-El: “Love them, Kal. The way we loved you.”Jonathan Kent: “Fly Son, It’s Time!!”
Now that was a tear jerker!!!!!!
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
The Man of Steel callback and pretty much every Superman scene were the best scenes in the whole movie
@@joec7217 agreed. Was so good to see a natural progression of Superman scenes
Cut and paste much?
yeah and after Hearing all that he wears his emo heat seeking suit for no reason
I loved out of all the whole movie is that Zack Snyder's dedication to his daughter was the first thing before the credits. Rest in peace
Yes! A terrible thing for any parent. It was a beautiful tribute!
R.I.P to Autumn Snyder
ALERT... VIRTUE SIGNAL...ALERT👆
You forgot the most heartbreaking scene in the movie.
The last one.
"For Autumn"
I think for Zack this was a way to pay tribute to his daughter.
Man if this movie was released in 2017, I think we’d just tear up by the end and god the possibility was extraordinary tbh
Zack Snyder did it justice.
Respectfully no pun intended.
@@AdmiralBison
None of the characters were portrayed correctly. He tries too hard to be edgy. His daughter died a death in vain. Zack is a terrible storyteller.
@@stevenriften7561 ok edge lord..I am sure you can make a better movie than Zack Snyder with a better "story telling"🙄
@@BELIEVER78989
When did I say I can "make a better story"?
Batman is running around killing; Superman is always...mopey. Wonder woman has a grating accent and Aquaman acts like some kind of hippie. Then there's Lex and how awfully he is portrayed.
The visual storytelling was amazing as well, like how when Cyborg is in the digital world, he’s wearing his football jacket, he’s normal. But when he finally comes to terms with who he is now, and that he’s not alone, he’s not broken, he finally BECOMES Cyborg in the digital world as well.
Shit didn't think about that! That's fucking great
Damn! Good catch!
visual storytelling = shit writing
@@dongxx who could forget the golden rule, tell don’t show
@@dongxx so....cinema should be more on dialogues and no room for visual storytelling? Do you know what is the literal meaning of cinema?
The line in Aquaman where Mera says “you killed steppenwolf” makes so much more sense now than with the theatrical one.
For real
She actually said "You defeated Steppenwolf" which doesn't imply killing. Mera saying her parents died in ZSJL and Atlanna took her in, but her father is King Nereus in the Aquaman movie. Arthur hasn't seen Vulko in years in the Aquaman movie but clearly sees him in ZSJL. Arthur blames his mother and says he left him on his father doorstep but in his movie he blames himself and the Atlanteans. No British accent or water bubbles. Snyders armor is is very Lord of the Rings while Wans is Star Wars inspired. They don't line up at all
@@CamOfSpam That actually made me think ”Wait, what?". Because in Aquaman Mera was royalty and in Justice League she said that she was kind of adopted.
@@CamOfSpam also Orm was mentioned as king.
@MR-FREEZE 98 Maybe not WW1984... She flew in that movie and it was supposed to be a prequel to JL/ZSJL.
The bit that was the made it better for me the most was the explanation of why Bruce thought the Motherbox could bring Superman back. In Josstice League he was like, "Alien tech that could probably do anything. Lets bring Superman back cos that will give us the edge cos he's Superman". In ZS JL, it was like, "Well Cyborg came back thanks to the motherbox. So why didn't Steppenwolf come back then? Cos Superman was here. Meaning they're afraid if him. Lets bring Superman back bcos that'll give us the edge and if the motherbox could bring back Victor, it could bring back Superman." Much better.
But before that they say that the motherboxes don't have feelings. So it's contradicts this statement. Probably just an oversight from the writers.
@@HM-wn2in -- The Mother Boxes are ancient sentient machines. Yes, they do have feelings (and more).
@@HM-wn2in They never said they don’t feel, only that they don’t think in terms of life and death when using their power.
@@iambuhlockay8007 Even if they are sentient, they are still also technology that follow the command of whoever programs them.
Hearing Russell Crowe and Kevin Costner and the man of steel theme has got to be one of the best things I’ve seen in awhile
Chilling isn’t it
that scene was awesome
I'm not gonna lie, that scene hit me right in the feels. And it was a great way to have Superman finally reconcile his two identities
lol sorry I had to laugh hearing those things was the best thing you have seen? :P
I was so happy they acknowledged Russell Crowe again. Cause he wasn't even mentioned in Batman V Superman.
"Amazons! Show him your fear!"
"WE HAVE NO FEAR!"
gave me goosebumps
Similar to:
"Spartans! What is your profession!?"
"WWWAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR"
I dislike a lot about snyder, but I always loved how much he respect badass female characters. Marvel could learn something from that (yeah, there are some great but the majority are so bland)
Yeah that line was kinda funny for me ngl. Like if they have no fear, are they supposed to…not show him anything?
That was a dope line!
@Steffan Blanco but did they show fear?
The flash reversed the time resurrecting Superman then did it on a bigger scale saving the world. Dope AF.
I was so confused during that sequence tbh
I really like that Snyder established that weird shit happens with time when he goes past light speed. First the dialogue, then Clark’s resurrection you actually see it happen and your like “oh cool!” Then mf watches the planet fkn implode and pulls the literal fabric of spacetime backwards! So good.
It had some thanks and vision influences in it. Especially when Aquaman stabbed stephenwolf
@@arnoldhorton8115 wym ?
@@giokyo9465 I meant to say JL had some infinity war influence. Vision got stabbed the same way Stephenwolf got stabbed by aquamam. Also when visions milestone was destroyed by wanda, it was a moment where it appeared the battle was over then time got reversed and there was an alternate ending. We got a similar experience in JL when flash reversed time at the end
This version of the Justice League really reminded me of the animated DC movies which brought back a lot of Nostalgia as a DC fan which is the whole reason these movies exist imo. We want to see our childhood stories portrayed in a way that really pays them respect and this version really did that for me. So I enjoyed it and hope WB finds a way to continue this universe.
Interesting, so I just got finished watching the Snyder Cut and I feel a bit of the reverse as you. As much of a post-production and editorial mess as the theatrical cut was, it was the first time that I genuinely felt like I was in the DC Universe proper instead of Snyder's personal interpretation of the DC universe. With the Snyder Cut, I feel like a bit of that lightness was lost, even though I still think it's by far Snyder's best DC work. Maybe I get closer to your view as I sit on it for a few days.
@@albericponcedeleon2696 personally i found the theatrical to be a rip off marvel film with DC characters. DC has always been inherently a darker universe, but jokes get thrown in and I think they throw the perfect amount of humour in here. Doesn’t make it goofy but gives the league that same feel as the animated league. For me this is one of the greatest comic book movies of all time
@@albericponcedeleon2696 By that logic, Peter B Parker is an invalid Spiderman because he's not responsible and optimistic but rather suicidal and cynical. To be honest, Snyder did take an inspiration directly from DC comics. Just not the mainstream because his universe is meant to be an Elseworld of sorts.
@@memecliparchives2254 it's an immersion issue for me, so there is definitely a sizable subjective component to it. A couple of days afterwards I watched the "Justice Is Gray" version and liked that even more but overall my previous thoughts still stand.
While the DCAU, the direct-to-video animated films, and other animated shows like Young Justice and B:TATB all have different takes on the DC Universe from each other, themselves different from the mainline comics, I still feel like I'm in the DC Universe proper while I'm watching them. I never think about who's directing or producing behind the camera until after it's finished.
It's an issue that I uniquely have with the DCEU. While watching the MCU films I never think about them as Feige's take on the Marvel Universe, despite them doing certain things differently from the mainline comics. The "Elseworld treatment" doesn't really correct for this in my mind, since I was able to watch something as different as JL: Gods and Monsters and still feel like I was looking at a DC story directly and not a DC story through X person's lenses.
Casting is not an issue either since I love Cavill and Affleck as Supes and Bats respectively. Even though I hoped for somebody a bit more muscular, Gal has done a great job as WW and so has Momoa even though he looks somewhat different to the traditional Aquaman. It's more about how they've handled their stories.
Whedon cut Cyborg's backstory, including the excellent sequences with the single mom and Cyborg giving her the money she needed. The actress who played her asked if the scene was restored to the Snyder Cut over on Twitter. She got a ton of positive messages, it was nice.
Beautiful, so many people were robbed.
@@addvocate-official2996 The scene with Cyborg's mother in the college was one of the most poorly dialogued scenes I've ever seen and I really loved this movie.
@@chethammer we have Tarrantino films for that.
The fact that we knew the story and still ended up liking this Snyder cut movie is really something.
Thing is we kinda didn't with all the changes.
why are some of you pretending it was just a direction change? The movie was literally double the time and had 70milliom plus to enhance it. It’s obviously a complete different movie, there is no point in comparing it besides main scenes
@@danielz-v4083 most of the money was spent on cgi and a five minute footage with the joker. Everything else was shot earlier.
@@Dingdong-vo3vl that’s not REMOTELY what I meant. How did you got confuse by it?
My take is because of how much context it gives to the overall story
They literally couldn't save the world alone. They needed everyone of them.
Except Aquaman
Martian manhunter should've been there. Lol the guy has been hiding since 2013. He's almost as powerful as superman, but he's like "I hate fire".
@@MrREAPERsz I mean in BvS superman was a controversial subject in the movie universe so i kinda understand why he hide from humanity. Also he helped them indirectly out as his other persona he took during MoS and BvS
Also I've heard Snyder wanted to use a green lantern during the epilogue visiting Bruce, but WB denied it so he used Martian Manhunter instead
@@luriv37 Aquaman saved them earlier in the movie. He also distracted Steppenwolf.
@@MrREAPERsz if you see Martian Manhunter’s history in comics he was never a foundation member of league and he was cautious all the time. And he even saw how people react to Superman for years. He came to Batman because he realized greater threat like Darkseid. He wouldn’t reveal himself easily.
All the Wonder Woman scenes were so badass in this version
The terrorist scene was BRUTAL.
the only thing i would change is the "ah ah ahhhh" operatic singing that kept popping up in her scenes. Id much rather that bad ass electric guitar or cello or whatever that is.
@@rhaibi12 Yup, brutally awesome, she fucked those terrorists up.
@@slowpie I personally LOVED that little touch, it felt very 300 to me
Yup, I hated how they made her kind of unlikable in the bargain bin justice league. Her character was basically I miss Trevor. The drama between her and Bruce didn’t make any sense and I’m glad they got rid of that.
The DC fans are the true heroes of the DC Universe, for demanding for this cut
The fans are the heroes, but Zack is the spark.
You guys are the real heroes!
@@cashthecurator666 Homelander ? 😰
Anyone else felt soooo bad for steppenwolf when he was begging to come home and it zoomed in on his super sad eyes? 😭😭😭 literally tried so hard not to feel bad
I did. He is a genocidal maniac but I felt bad for him. He just wanted to be accepted and to return home.
i defiantly felt bad for him. They DID make his eyes super sad
He looked so cute lmao
Yup. Kinda felt sad for his ending too. Even Darkseid didn't believe him :(
@@arc4859 Yep I've never seen such a menacing villain with adorable face
Cyborg's line near the end: I'm not broken... and I'm not alone.
That hit me hard because so many emotions went through me when I lost my dad to cancer a year ago. It actually made me cheer and say "YES!"
The movie may be called Justice League, but Cyborg carried this movie and was the heart and soul of it. He's one of my absolute fave DC heroes and Ray Fischer did so much justice (no pun intended) to the character! Now I understand why he was so passionate and angry about the Josstice League cut! His anger was perfectly justified!
He's become I think one of my favourite actor
When Darkseid stepped on steppenwolfs head, noticed that his foot was larger than his head. Just imagine him in combat...
I really liked that the God of war Ares took him out of all the heroes there.
@@yuliangeorgiev That was Teenage Uxas trying to prove himself to his father.
He was easily defeated in combat though.
He was easily defeated in combat though.
Darkseid > Uxas
Imagine Shazam and Black Adam teaming up with the Justice League, along with The Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern and Hawkgirl in the battle for Earth in the next movie. That would be dope.
Superman showing up outta nowhere saying "I'm not impressed" was so damn awesome! That really was a much better comeback. And then freezing and breaking the axe was the Cherry on top
I loved how the whole movie, the JL struggled against Steppenwolf. Then Supes comes along and is like "Meh"
Especially pulling up with black super suit
@@darthgoober4657 the difference is this time the rest of team didn’t get made redundant like they did in the theatrical cut. They all still had a part in taking Steppenwolf down despite Superman being there.
@@craigus1991 Not to mention, I think the lack of Darkseid in the theatrical cut added to that feeling of redundancy for the rest of the League. The largest threat in the film was Steppenwolf, so if Superman can kick his ass, then why do you need the other heroes? In this version, it’s made very clear that even Superman is no match for Darkseid, so when he defeats Steppenwolf, you still feel like the rest of the League will be necessary in the future.
@@domphilbrick The rest of the league was relevant in this film too. They brought Superman back from the dead, seperated the boxes and went back in time to make sure the outcome was not the apocolypse, which is what Darkseide represents.
They better not reboot it again. Zacks vision is so clear to me now. It’s actually beautiful.
Man of Steel and Batman v Superman actually improve with each viewing I feel. He's earned my respect.
Does he even want to continue the franchise? I heard he just wanted to do this.
It’s already being rebooted, but idk a lot of people liked this movie for some reason so maybe zacks vision will come to fruition
@@Grim_Concept We kind of already have a sequel to Zack Snyder's Justice League. Although it's an animated movie called Justice League Dark: Apokolips War.
@@Darth_Vader258 I can't source it, but I believe Snyder's original plan was to make JL a trilogy with the third movie based around Apokolips War. It's a shame he isn't. It's one of DC's best stories.
Superman was so much more brutal in this version I really liked how with the higher age rating they actually had him using powers like his laser eyes in combat.
It felt like he was playing a arcade game.
Punch, Laser, Punch, Laser, Punch, Laser...
There was a complaint in the earlier version that if Superman can single handedly defeat steppenwolf why is thr whole justice league necessary.? Seems that hasnt changed.. Superman still single handedly destroyed Steppenwolf even in the Snydercut.
@@ankitdas6620 I mean I still agree with that complaint, just think it’s cool that with the higher rating they weren’t limited in what they could have him do
@@ankitdas6620
He did, but the difference is that every member was useful & involved in the battle. Without them Superman would've lost...
They did lost actually, Flash turned back time & changed their fate.
@@ankitdas6620 still need Flash to save their ass.
THAT BLACK SUIT SUPERMAN SCENE WAS AWESOME!!!
It was ok
He was also supposed to have the beard and mullet from the comics. But WB said no.
I liked it, a lot! It didn’t make any sense though haha.
@@MaximaMac we have Jeremy jahns
Dc/wb should have let marvel have the 12A/PG_13 comic book movie niche and established their own R_rated dceu , snyders justic league was R_rated and it was amazing
I liked how the rest of the Justice League we're actually a factor in the Snyder cut instead of it being all Superman single-handedly at the end
I have a question, how did Batman knew about the invasion in this cut?
@@luism2754 In the movie, it said that Luthor told him, and Luthor met Steppenwolf at the end of BVS.
@@IP_Films01 Luthor didn't really "meet" him per se. He saw one of those 3D projections of him + the mother boxes (like the ones in MoS) in the amniotic chamber.
@@luism2754 Wonder woman discovers, because Themiscyra is attacked, and tell him.
@@Baronnax this is correct.
"Please mother, kiss it. just the tip." man I spew on my computer all the soda I was drinking. What have you done.
If my mother asked to sleep with me...I might not deny. 🙁
@@stevenriften7561 Yikes
@@stevenriften7561 ayo?!?!?
@@stevenriften7561 aw dude
@@Vleeslucht
I'm just joking. Listen to BODE LANG on TH-cam.
That Flash scene where he reversed time is one of the most spectacular scenes I have ever scene in a comic book movie fam. My God.
Fuck yeah
Kinda the reverse (no pun intended) side of infinity war where the villain is the one who Reverse the time when they fail.
@@THEWATCHER17 mcu is dead bury it
I hope in his film they include the crisis scene with both flashes or even extend it 🤯
Couldn't more agree, that was fantastic plot twist!
I was so happy to see that Flash and Cyborg got their time to shine, And that whole scene with Superman getting the black suit teared me up
As someone who has The Flash as their favorite hero, i was SO happy to see the Ezra Miller's Flash is actually awesome and not annoying and terrible like in the joss version!! He actually got to use most of his sweet flash powers in this and actually helped to saved the world and cyborg was way more interesting too
Absolutely!
He was a bit more serious and less awkward and had full control of his powers
As much as I did enjoy most of his scenes I think he needed a bit more exposition.. like, he sais that when re runs too fast some "weird stuff happens" and that he has that one rule that he doesn't break.. but we don't really know WHY he doesn't break it or WHAT exactly can go wrong about it? There's no consequences, we just see him doing it and it's all ok.. It was very cool visually, but I felt like something was missing. Also, the Iris scene, with the hair touching when she flying out of her car and the hot-dog grabbing, while soft romantic music was playing.. yikes, that was kinda creepy
I think one of the craziest flips is
Joss's Flash- Goofy Runner
Zacks' Flash- Zen Runner
Like he gave a legitimate reason to his form and it boggles me
@@StephonST I knew why his run seemed similar yet also different and better.
@@elrumcajs666 The Rule thing it's simple, He can change time, that's a big no no, cause you could mess reality, in fact, everybody died in the movie, but Flash saved them at the last moment. Remember Superman coming from pieces at that moment, damn.
Zack really deserves the biggest apology ever
Poor Steppenwolf, all he wanted was his home back.😭
you do realise he has slaughtered thousands of worlds before betraying darkseid right?
Its crazy how different joss and snyder stephenwolf is one is a stiff ugly monster and one is a disgraced commander that will do anything to go back home
the joss steppenwolf's has mother bullshit.. mother...
@@kavinsuresh5468 but his too cute
A young Zuko
The character development, action, and music were all on point for this film. So good. The Justice League actually felt like a real team with depth here, Snyder did them Justice.
I loved how every member explicitly saves the world at one point during the final battle
“Why would you send a boy wonder to do a man’s job” most bone chilling line!!! They definitely gave Leto’s joker redemption
Idk if I fully agree with that. I liked the lines and stuff but still don’t really like Leto’s interpretation of the Joker. Like I could tell when he was trying to steal Ledgers thing and it still kinda made me cringe
he's so much better, and batman's speech about harley quinn gave me shivers!
He's talking about the dead Robin with the boy wonder quote right?
@@bloatersnake9787 of course
@@eli3804 Why does everyone always say that Leto is trying to steal Ledgers thing? Ledger’s joker was great, and just because another actor is playing a different joker, doesn’t mean they are trying to be better. They are each giving their own best interpretation of the character.
I swear, the Amazons fight scenes with Steppenwolf were insane. I was clenching my butt so hard throughout the whole thing.
The Amazonian fight was definitely cool especially when the horses got involved but the slaughtering of the atlanteans was just something else entirely. 😳
The climax when they "lost" had me more on edge than any movie I've ever seen recently, knowing what dark future is to come. So, Barry saving the day was a beautiful touch.
Seeing Clark reform made my jaw drop, like even he didn't survive the explosion!
Every frame a painting is the best way to describe this movie. Every single shot looks so f*****g cool. Especially the fights between Diana and steppenwolf.
Zach actually said in an interview that he NEVER watched Joss’s cut. Damn let that sink in.
Christopher Nolan and his wife actually told Zack NOT to see it, they knew it would break his heart.
@@DoctorPretorious616 nolan is such a badass lol, wonder what he thinks of the snyder cut
@@gheebus3890 He is executive producer
I just hope that WB do what they’re doing with Christopher Nolan and leave Zack Snyder alone and let him just follow his vision with no interruptions..
There’s a reason why Nolan was one of the Executive Producers, if he believes in him, why the fuck WB wants to control his vision?
Probably WB Board is full with old racist white millionaires that never saw a comic book in their lives..
@@viraj8849 so that's why JL was good
"When we see a photo moving backwards, we know some weird fu*kery is happening" ~ Jeremy Jahns
Oh yes. I have to go back and look at that again thanks.
I was about to google that word, thanks lol
how sick was nightmare darkseid underwater killing atlantians with his omega beams!
And it went all zig-zaggy!
@@edgardomartin8299 and spelled END
@@SSAli-rp3hx oh snap! I missed that! Okay another rewatch is needed 🍿
I wish his omega beams looked more threatening, like a dark red and more of a fire effect like Superman'z heat vision has
@@Meme_Lor I mean it was underwater so maybe that effects it?
I think flash got the development he needed, a lot of people didn’t like his portrayal but I thought it was amazing, and I think this movie fixed his perception
Agreed
I still dislike the casting but the flash as a character had SOOO much better character development and the speed force detail with the other powers the flash has was awesome
@@LagunaLeonhart yeah man, I wish it was grant from the arrowverse
I will admit ezra Miller as the flash is great. However as Barry Allen grant gustin still does a better job. They should of just called ezra Miller version wally or bart.
I agree. I actually want to see a flash movie now with him.
So Steppenwolf still owed Darkseid 50,000 more planets. If he conquered one world everyday, it would take him 136 years with no days off ! No wonder he wanted the Mother Box shortcut!
And anti life snitch
Steppenwolf finding the 3 mother boxes and then the anti-life would have covered his dept to darkseid....to be fair he actually won for about 30 seconds until Flash reversed time.
I mean, dude is practically an immortal who has likely lived for thousands of years. 136 years is an unfathomable amount of time for us but not for an immortal who has lived thousands of years.
Very true.
In the 2017 version, it felt like superman carried them in the end but in the snyder cut, they felt like a team working together, especially with the flash saving everybody's ass.
Its not about how Leto played his Joker, its about the Dialogue that Bats n Joker had.. and it was great.
I thought that whole scene was terrible and didn't fit with the pacing at all. That, and the Martian Manhunter scene afterwards felt like bad and extended post-credit scenes that were stapled onto the movie proper. They pretty much ruined a decent ending and I will skip them any time I rewatch it.
@@Renoistic That scene was in an alternate timeline so i don't think it was supposed to fit the pacing, but it needed to be addressed due to the Flashpoint scene is BvS. Martian Man Hunter was admittedly thrown in kinda last min for diversity reasons. Snyder had plans for John Stewart- studio wouldnt allow it. MM was the compromise
@@Renoistic i do agree with you a little bit, but "RUINED a decent ending" is a little bit too much
All the dialog in the movie was so campy
@@Renoistic the epilogue did feel added on but in no way did it ruin the ending. Your overreacting to that
"Oooh, and all the parademons start attacking - like get fucked -WHAT?"
That's just the best reaction ever. It's so true. They totally did this movie dirty in the 2017 version.
I think it would only be right if there was a sequel to this that Zack Snyder should definitely be the one who directs it. Other directors could do solo films for like Cyborg and Flash but for Justice League I feel Zack Snyder should be the only person to direct a sequel
Flash going back in time, and Cyborg's powerful moment at the end with the mother boxes make me think that Joss deliberately tried to make the movie worse. Just watch his version of that final battle and tell me I'm wrong.
You're wrong. There.
Exactly my thoughts, has to be sabotage - how can you watch those scenes and be like “nope” how???
I don't think a lot of what happened was Joss Whedon's fault. The dude had less than a year to pull together a movie that the studio had no faith in whatsoever. With so little time to work with, Warner Bros being unflinching about the release date, and likely many top-down mandates about what the movie needed to be, Joss just bowed to the studio's whims and gave them what they wanted: a two-hour movie that felt like the Avengers. Because if you make it like the Avengers, it'll be successful, right? Time has not been kind to the studio's decision making, especially now that the original vision has been finished and released.
@@minuterice19540 but tbh both are at fault, yeah wha tu said is right the studio did force joss but joss cutting important scenes and characters and giving us shit like "oh something is definetly bleeding" and flash falling on ww chest and ww and batman having a weird uncalled for moment. All this feels so fuckin forced and idiotic and not to mention the weird absolute dogshit green screen zoomed in effect the whole 2017 movie had, When batman is talking with aquaman arthurs face just zooms in and u can clearly see the background blur look like it was shot on iphone 7 plus with portrait mode on
@@Lord_ofcinder I still blame the studio. Whedon can make good movies. He has made good movies. But here, he made half a movie. Hell, less than that, since he wasn't given any preproduction. And he had no time to polish his rewrites, because the studio wanted the movie right now. So, you have half a movie made from unpolished, likely first draft writing then stapled onto someone else's movie where the creative vision is in clear conflict with the new tone. Then on top of all that, it's mandated to be 2 hours long and has to come out in 2017 so that the studio executives can get their bonuses (yes, that's the actual reason the film wasn't pushed back). No director coming into an unfinished project under those circumstances would have succeeded. The studio fucked up. I'm not saying Joss made good decisions with the changes and cuts, god no, the 2017 version is a mess. But the root caused of that mess all go back to Warner Brothers executives making short-sighted decisions.
Redemption, I love it. Zack's parent to child dynamic really made the viewers feel connected and him, his wife and all the cast and production team deserved redemption. So glad this version was released.
The whole cyborg story of him learning his gifts n coming to terms with his father...the flashpoint scene was awesome...I had to watch that so many times again cause it was so bad ass...hope with the success of this would allow more Snyder Justice League films made
I gotta add the way they did WWs powers in this is INFINITELY better then what it looked in both her solo movies
Zack Snyder understands Wonder woman Patty Jenkins doesn't really to be honest like she did a solo Wonder woman movie which was 84 and was absolutely garbage but when Zack Snyder worked on a Wonder woman movie which was the first one it was good
Synder said he brought Leto back because he felt it would be a shame to not have the dceu Batman and joker not have any screen time together
"It wasn't the Justice League movie we needed, but the one that we deserved." Bravo Zack Snyder .. Bravo.
I don't think... that's how that line goes...
@@AlquimistEd it is if that’s how I wrote it.
L Lemond then why did you put quotation marks
@@TripleEightssbcz I do whatever I want, Dick Tracy.
naahhh... this is a rare case. this IS the movie we needed AND deserved.
The thing I appreciate about Jeremy's review is that he understands that the Snyder Cut we just watched IS the original film; referring to how the Whedon version cut these scenes out.
Other reviewers keep saying look how much has been added into the Snyder cut. No, this stuff was already filmed but just never included in the 2017 movie.
Cuz he dont have a goldfish memory like other youtubers or make videos for clickbait like ex haters
Exactly, unlike some people he pays attention. There was on critic on RT that gave a low review for the Snyders version yet gave a high version for Whedons was obviously pissed off with zack getting his movie released because he said "This is basically a 4hr middle finger to Joss Whedon". Some critics are so butthurt that they lost it hilarious.
@@The_Knight_Rider1980 yup, and i'm not even like a big Snyder fan but its so annoying how some reviewers can't do basic research before doing their videos
@@islesalldaynhl I am the type of guy that would fight for any TRUE, REAL, DIFINITIVE version of a film. I have so many directors cuts of films that are massively better than the theatrical versions because I want the PROPER film that was made BY THE DIRECTOR.
I teared up at the Flash sequence in the final battle. One of my favorite sequences of any comic book film.
Even marvel?
@@akaSWZE could be recency bias, I’ll admit. But as of right now, top 20 for me.
@@Arcadio_Castellanoz this is like a comic book come to life, and I love the Greek mythology parts of it. This movie is so deep, gotta rewatch it again
That scene gave me chills, the music was perfect and Barry's dialogue felt meaningful.
Darkseid takes an ax to the shoulder and bleeds out
Superman takes an ax to the shoulder and nothing
That was before he was darkseid. Basically a very young inexperienced version of himself. If they make jl2 darkseid will be much more powerful.
Super Man ruins the DC universe how to perfect fucking boring tbh
A god like weapon from Zeus hitting a much more younger darksied. Vs a alien axe that hits a superman who is wearing a dark suit that makes him even stronger then he usually is. Just saying darksied is alot more powerful then he was before.
@@imallstar1 It’s not only that, the axe that fucked Darkseid’s shit up was wielded by Ares. So it’s a weapon forged by the gods being wielded by the literal god of war, who is wayyyyyy above Steppenwolf’s paygrade lol. Since he’s one of the Old Gods you could also make the case that he’s above even current Darkseid’s tier, nothing to do with his age or experience. Dudes like Zeus, Ares, Trigon, etc are no joke in the DC universe. Superman would definitely not be able to no-sell a strike like that from any of the Old Gods, he would have to move out of the way or catch it or something or else he’d wind up in a worse state than Darkseid was lmao
@@nehemiasaquino9080 He absolutely doesn’t lol. Superman is nowhere near the strongest being in DC. Hell, he’s never even really defeated Darkseid, so if Darkseid had walked through that portal at the end of Justice League they’d definitely be burying Clark again REAL quick.
it scares me how much power cyborg has. This one being can end earth with a thought. Faster than superman ever could.
Take wifi out and he a t800 though
To be fair, Cyborg has to wait for the missiles to launch and Superman could just punch the planet with his hardest punch and crack it in half, or turn his heat vision on full blast and roast the world or slice the planet in half.
@@rustymixer2886 nuclear codes
Definitely more than "a one-percent chance." Uh-oh.
@@Falcun21 I don't think Superman is that strong in the DCEU. In the DCEU, Cyborg definitely has the potential to be the most destructive force on the planet.
Last time I was this early the Snyder Cut wasn’t even a thing
Lol nice
The part that I thought was hilarious (in a good way) was when they showed Amazonians and Atlantians hiding the boxes in such an elaborate setup and then man just buries it under a few feet of dirt, lol. Enjoyed every minute of this cut!
I lost it during that scene, we had to pause the movie so I could catch my breath. All I could think was "Burry it in the backyard, cause I don't trust banks!"
But in all seriousness, this cut was great.
@@drees3of488 we had to pause and replay it, too! It was such a lord of the rings moment. Like, we humans are dumb af, lol. I agree! It was an experience! I hoped it proved that people are okay with long runtimes (so be it with at least a 15 minute intermission for stretching!)
"that'll do."
My wife and I DIED at that. Everyone is locking their shit down with tech, magic, and industry. Meanwhile, the world of men is just like, "Boyos, we gotta get this thing covered up quick...I've heard rumors Isengaurd is on the move!"
But it makes sense though. The Atlanteans and the Amazons created these structures of importance to this devastatingly powerful object - literally enshrining it. Meanwhile, mankind is just like, "fucking bury it in the middle of nowhere without any pomp or circumstance, not even a damn marker! The enemy can't discover it if it's just lost somewhere in the backyard."
It was the smartest decision of the three, but then, of course, the 3rd Reich shows up lol.
The even more funny part is that their box was the hardest to locate lol
The physics where flash rescues that woman , were absoloutly insane 👌
“That woman” was Iris West, his future wife
I don't know if I'm the only one but I loved the background song during that scene
Flash saving that cute girl.
The sweetest thing ever made
Thats Iris west
@@butchcoolidge1315 for real?
@@butchcoolidge1315 I didn't even think about it. And i watched the tv show smh
@@shameekgrimes1921 yeah he actress was casted as iris
That was actually one of the weaker scenes for me. Felt weird that he was just caressing her instead of saving her. I mean I get that he was confident that he was going to save her, but still.
The concept of Batman having to team up with absolutely hated enemies to save a world that has obviously been destroyed is an amazing idea. The conflict, drama, and non-trope superhero video would be amazing imo
They gotta make the next movie when Darkseid comes to earth. That ending scene with him about to prepare his army in apokolips was epic.
Please no, this movie was already way to quick to be pulling out Darkseid, we need more movies and stories before we get Darkseid actual invasion.
@@ZealStarMedia this was a one time thing but if this had been released in 2017, holy fuck the possibilities are extraordinary.
@@ZealStarMedia The Snyderverse is not really a big universe, it's just a one time saga that will reset by the end into a more classic cinematic universe.
@@memecliparchives2254
Just watch Justice league dark apocalypse war.
How good was the Amazon beginning sequence! And WW was so bad ass in her opening sequence. That’s how you do her justice!
Those poor guards got smushed so hard
What a movie this was. Four hours and it never felt stretched. Amazing action, great character development, cohesive story. Well done Snyder. So surprised and blown away with this film.
As soon as all of the parademons started bowing, I knew it was about to go down. Lord Darkseid is coming
It was just so tonally different and felt like a mythological epic for the modern age and that's a cool vibe.
I really doubted Ezra Miller before this movie. That run at the end though,
*EPIC*
I love how Barry was like: “Ok, I gotta break the rule. I gotta break time.”
And I was like: “Run Barry, run.”
Does anyone going to talk about how badass the Nightmare Suit of Barry looks like? 🤘🏻
It was also in BvS
They all look super badass with their apocalypse getups! Cyborg went straight T-800 with that minigun.
Was dope! I swear Barry had a CG face when the visor came down XD
So Zack Snyder asked Jared Leto to do the line "We live in a society", put it in the trailer get us all excited and then cut it in the final film.
Top troll.
absolute mad lad
Marketing
I hear that that was Jared Leto's idea.
That line will be included in the black and white version.
Zack confirmed that it was Leto’s idea to use that line.
All films should have a long directors cut!
Some of us have an attention span of longer than 2 hours I really enjoyed investing 4 hours into this film, it was awesome!
Couldn't agree more 👍
It is not attention span of people but theatre's time budget.
If theatre have option to choose
1. sells 1 ticket for 4 hours (1 film)
2. sells 2 ticket for 4 hours (2 films)
They are going to choose 2 more often
“They just Durotaned him”
Boy did I not expect Jeremy (or anyone for that matter) to reference the Warcraft movie after 5 fucking years.
That took me by surprise too
Yeah, that was cool, still haven't forgiven the film for killing Durotan like that.
how darksied forgot the planet he caught an L in with the anti life equation is a mystery
I was trying to figure that out lmao
I think he was just traveling around unmapped space looking for it when he had to do an emergency evacuation and fallback to Apokolips. So he was out in the middle of nowhere and then had to turn back.
That’s what I got at least. Then Steppenwolf arrived on this world (they sent Motherboxes to many worlds) and realized it is THAT world.
I think it was just the amount of time and the fact that he’s conquered so many others. I mean look how many worlds wolf still had to conquer to pay his debt. 50,000 more. Universes are way more vast when you’re basically immortal
Earth isn't an immovable point in space, the entire galaxy our planet is on is also constantly moving (if you traveled directly back in time without changing where you are in space, you would probably end up in a whole lot of space vacuum). Maybe he lost track of it because he had to do an emergency retreat, and the planet itself moved?
Darksied's L was prolly so bad he had to forget about it lmao.
Even though Superman had the least screen time I feel like he made the most impact in the entire film besides cyborg.
Whedon should be banned for life for replacing the time travel scene of flash with a truck.
Snyder Cut was amazing. I was so impressed. My expectations we're met and then some. This is what happens when a director is given free reign to do his thing. I'm really bummed that they most likely won't be following this movie up with anything. I'm happy we got this. Props to Zack Snyder.
I actually liked Leto’s Joker here. He still has Batman’s number even though THIS Batman is truly scary. I wish we can get that Batman movie with Deathstroke and Joker.
Same
Leto was cringe. His design is better, but to each his own.
@@MrREAPERsz no
We wanna see the rivalry of Battfleck and Leto's Joker first before we see how they're finally teaming up if they still have a movie about it
The Flash bringing back reality with each step was the best action sequence in this movie.
I'm 2 years late here but I finally just watched the Snyder cut and holy eff was it so much better. It's 2024 now and the DC universe is now getting rebooted...again. with no last Cavill-as-Superman movie like there was supposed to be. so it's incredibly sad and maddening to see the amazing potential this universe couldve had if they didnt fuck it up so badly in the first place.
I'm convinced under the right leadership, Jared Leto will make a great joker.
I actually liked jared letos joker i just hated his appearance like all those nonsense tats.
The fact that this is a 4 hour movie but endgame felt like a longer movie
Edit: I’m not saying endgame is bad I’m saying that movie felt longer than this movie which is wild
The big action scene at the end of endgame was boring a tired by the end of it
What now? I actually liked this movie, but I was looooooonnnnnnnng. I don't personally know anyone who's sat through it in one sitting. That's not a bad thing, but gotta say, I think I would've preferred it edited in to episodes.
@@1081Raptor I watched it in one go, no bathroom break. A couple of 5 minute breaks every other chapter
@@NeverSaySandwich1 fair enough, but 5 minute breaks are still breaks.
@@1081Raptor In one sitting means you watched it all at once within the runtime plus 10-20 minutes. Or you watch it in an afternoon or a night. No one sits down and watches a 4 hour thing of any media without any breaks.
The interaction between Batman and Joker was my favorite scene in the movie.
It was Amazing!👍
Come on joker is amazing no matter what movie he’s in
Give ya a reach-around...
I felt Batman carried that scene. The anger in his face when joker indirectly mentions the death of Robin, was insane.
Never seen that version of batman and I absolutely loved it.
@narmaK eh, Affleck would probably find condoms in his coffee cup if he had to keep working with Leto.
Funny how all the Snyder scenes deleted by Joss Whedon have an incredible similarity to Infinity war/End Game. Wonder is that has anything to do with the fact that WB resisted releasing the Snyder cut so much...
I agree that the whole "not impressed" part was incredibly badass.
In this version of the film you kinda feel bad for Steppenwolf
Giving him the puppy eyes really worked lol
@@zaidanesem6635 Yes! That's my sister and I thought. Really made you feel pity
I don't think it was puppy eyes. They were just so far apart it made him hard to take serious. It made him feel even more like the black sheep. But yeah I felt bad for him too.
This film made him feel real and not some CGI baddie with an Oedipus complex.
Barring the fact that what he does to earth he has done to other worlds this far and he owed Darkseid 50000 MORE worlds, yeah, just a god trying to get home.
Batman's plane had a better arc than anyone in the Whedon cut
Best comment 🤣
This. I looked to my friends and said "boys, thats what we call a payoff"
Yeah it wanted to fly and it flew
Even your mom
Lmfao
Absolutely loved the way Cyborg was explored in this film!
Favourite however was Steppenwolf's constant need to please his master! I could not care less about him in the 2017 version.
How likely is it that we get the Snyderverse?
Good to see you follow his reviews.. this guy and chris Stuckmann are my go-to reviewers for hollywood movies and you for bollywood
And hope that Snyder retains the creative control keeping the tone dark rather than WB trying it mellow it down
@@nimeshsingh3827 facts
Very unlikely WB continues the snyderverse
dceu is best under the supervision of snyder rather than the aimless bunch of projects with no connection.
The " she's 5000 years old every man is a younger man" joke killed me 😂😂😂
I like how Snyder FINALLY found that balance between a Dark Story and Lighter Tone
yup .. i felt that : D
Idk I would still love to be Steve Trevor's Vessel
@@firstlast9846 Perfectly balanced😁
@@firstlast9846 the jokes have always been there... just took a comic relief for people to see it
We Want Snyderverse!
If this Snyder cut is the end I'm happy. But if the Snyder verse is restored one of the best thing that happen in my life.
I don't think wb deserves zack.
@@iamdafuriousofall But most of us who fought for the Snyder Cut deserve the Snyderverse.
No! We really don't... This was hours of my life I will never get back and I was annoyed all of the time.
@@rudolftrost3534 if you were so annoyed why'd you keep watching it then? sounds like you just hating
Flash and Cyborg were the true mvp’s of this movie. Ezra Miller completely changed my mind as the flash and now you see why Ray Fisher was disappointed this whole time, Whedon and Wb screwed him. (Edit: thx for the likes)
Nah the Flash's hot dog was 😜
I think people are putting too much blame on Wheadon and not enough blame on WB.
I agree Cyborg and Flash were the heart of the movie the biggest punches came from their scene.
@@PoopaChallupa I agree, it feels like Wheedon did what he could with what he had and what WB asked.
I liked the talk between joker and batman ,flash power and speed is amazing in this movie , wonder woman in snyders justice league makes wonder woman from 1984 look like a fuckin disney princess , 4 hours wasnt enough for me , i want more plz wb give me 8 hours of injustice , i want to remind u all that wb gave zack only 70 million to finish cgi and visiual but i think that the cgi of darkseid , desad and stephenwolf was great, thats why some cgi felt choppy and incomplete, this movie feels good . I liked the tone in this not too light like wonderwoman 1984 it didnt work at all felt like disney movie and not too dark and boring like bvs , this movie has a balanced combination between the two tones .