It is incredible that bars never looked like that again....The difference between McNamara and Silivas four years later is unreal. No more wrapping around the bar.
@@bridev3648Szabo did have a great bars set, but what’s unfortunately ironic is it was bars that ultimately cost her AA gold- she had a fall in optionals
@@Hervinbalfour Part of the problem was giving Retton a ridciulous 9.95. After that they had to give Julianne's far better routine a 10 even though it was inferior to Ma's amazing routine.
When McNamara retired she explained that Bela made her do 18 consecutive UB routines in workouts daily. She said she could not do it at first but over time she did. The last ones were not good but she did them. That is why she hit cold three times for 10.00 in that competition. She was on autopilot.
That is what wins gold medals- repetitions after repetitions. Shawn Johnson said that Chow had her do something like 8 or 10 beam routines in succession leading up to the beam final. Muscle memory gave her the edge.
It’s not. It’s in the 2017-2020 CoP (it’s group 6 of UB: 6.609 to be specific) Its a F or a G in difficulty... I want to say G. It’s just so damned hard it’s easier to a full out and get DD from connections than do that dismount
I did not watch the Olympics back then in 1984. Felt the games were tainted with the Soviet Bloc boycott. So glad that Romania broke with the block and came to the games. Back then Mary Lou Retten got all of the attention overshadowing the other gymnasts. So 40 years later watching this we see that Ms. McNamara also had a great Olympics and had to put up with Mary Lou getting all of the attention. So 40 years later I salute Julianna.
@@em_mkay I suppose you saw nothing wrong with how they and East Germany in particular CONTROLLED the judging back then? I saw some absolutely abismally obvious overscored routines back during the Soviet era- 1988 being the culmination and 1992 thankfully being the last. 1979 worlds was the epitome of Soviet taint, right down to the crowd who deliberately harassed and and made fun of the Romanian athletes, as well as coaches that jeered them when they looked bothered by it. 1984 may not have had the Soviets at it, but at least it had RESPECTFUL fans and coaches who supported EVERYONE. By saying it was tainted you demean and disrespectEVERY athlete, regardless of country that did compete. They deserve admiration, appreciation and applause for their presence, try showing it!!
I think that both Ma Yanhong & Julianne McNamara were deserving of the Gold Medal. Ma's routine was innovative and had cleaner form/bodyline, but Julianne showed more variety in swing elements and transitions, punctuated by a perfectly stuck dismount. Too bad they eliminated the possibility for medal ties at the Olympics after 2000. There are too many athletes who have been robbed of a Gold Medal (e.g. Marian Dragulescu, Paul Hamm, Nastia Liukin) because of the ludicrous rule that the IOC implemented. If the athletes receive the same score, they should receive the same medal, like they would at any FIG sanctioned event.
@@rolandgreen7484 Wow! So you're ready to discredit a 16-year ruling that was already contested, objected, and reviewed by the IOC which upheld the judging from that competition? Despite what you might think, that's the end result and we all have to live with it. I could say that Andreea Raducaan was cheated out of her AA Gold Medal in 2000 because of a "bogus" technicality, too. Anyone with eyes can clearly see that Andreea was the superior gymnast on that fateful night, but she later had her medal taken away because she took a Sudafed (or something else containing Pseudoephedrine which is a banned substance)? Grow up, dude! I understand that you have nothing better to do with your time because of COVID-19 & self quarantine, but if you REALLY want to start scrutinizing people's comments, come with a better defense than that one
Wraps were still allowed. They were never banned, they just phased out. At the 1985 Worlds, following the 1984 Olympics, some gymnasts were still performing hip wraps. It's just that as the 80s progressed the bars were set wider and wider apart to the point that wraps were no longer possible.
Mary Lou Retton got most of the publicity for the American team in 1984 by winning the all-around, but Julianne McNamara also won gold by. winning the uneven bars. These two golds were the only golds by the American women’s gymnastics team in the 1984 Olympics.
Ma’s dismount was so iconic. First Chinese female gymnast to win an Olympic title too I’m pretty sure. Love how excited she and Julianne were to share that gold!
Cathy Rigby Mason McCoy's bias is almost at comic levels. The only thing funnier is Mary Lou getting a 9.95 with that hideous form break on her Tkachëv.
@@saragrant9749 it wasn't supposed to represent perfection, it was to rank the gymnasts. And Nadia's 10s were a tenth better than everyone else, at least.
@@thesovgc NOT with a hop. Whether the exercise was executed to “perfection” or not, a hop is a hop and discounts perfection- period!! People complain about it during the 1980’s with a variety of athletes but want to discount those? Absolute rubbish.
This was the best Mary Lou could do that routine. The difference between a 10 and the 9.95 she received was the strange hitch she always had in her leg on the reverse Hecht.
Mary Lou had a 9.95??? Whaaatt?? How?? She was freaking mind blowing!!!! Mary will always be my girl!!! I don't know how those gymnasts can do this! I would've break my neck!
Based on her bent knees and arms going into her release moves and handstands, that was generous. Though explosive, her lines didn't compare with McNamara's or Ma's.
@@lifeandstylewiththedivas4688They weren't even close to Ma and McNamara. Retton shouldn't have scored any higher than a 9.80 or 9.85 on uneven bars with those visible errors.
I miss the way bars routines looked in those days.
I definitely don’t. A lot of damage was done doing those “belly beats” including infertility and spinal issues. They were cool but so damaging.
@@saragrant9749frfr it does look painful
Same
@@saragrant9749 Can you include a link to articles about this?
I agree, I like the aesthetics of the routines much better.
It is incredible that bars never looked like that again....The difference between McNamara and Silivas four years later is unreal. No more wrapping around the bar.
Mary Lou retton 10
Lori Smith not on UB bars, she just didn't have the natural swing like Julianne and szabo mao, Julianne and ecat all 10
@@bridev3648Szabo did have a great bars set, but what’s unfortunately ironic is it was bars that ultimately cost her AA gold- she had a fall in optionals
Ma's routine was aMAzing!!
And the dismount is still considered very difficult 30 years+ later.
@@rolandgreen7484 I totally agree.
@@Hervinbalfour Part of the problem was giving Retton a ridciulous 9.95. After that they had to give Julianne's far better routine a 10 even though it was inferior to Ma's amazing routine.
I love these olympics games . It was an atmosphere of joy
When McNamara retired she explained that Bela made her do 18 consecutive UB routines in workouts daily. She said she could not do it at first but over time she did. The last ones were not good but she did them. That is why she hit cold three times for 10.00 in that competition. She was on autopilot.
That is what wins gold medals- repetitions after repetitions. Shawn Johnson said that Chow had her do something like 8 or 10 beam routines in succession leading up to the beam final. Muscle memory gave her the edge.
Always loved Ma's dismount and Julianne's swing. But it's Mary Lou's dismount that I replay over and over again. That is a thing of beauty.
Was the dismount Ma did banned later on?? I've never seen it done before. It was beautiful but looked very difficult.
It’s not. It’s in the 2017-2020 CoP (it’s group 6 of UB: 6.609 to be specific) Its a F or a G in difficulty... I want to say G. It’s just so damned hard it’s easier to a full out and get DD from connections than do that dismount
Ma yanghong had the best body position in handstand ever.
I did not watch the Olympics back then in 1984. Felt the games were tainted with the Soviet Bloc boycott. So glad that Romania broke with the block and came to the games.
Back then Mary Lou Retten got all of the attention overshadowing the other gymnasts. So 40 years later watching this we see that Ms. McNamara also had a great Olympics and had to put up with Mary Lou getting all of the attention. So 40 years later I salute Julianna.
So 1984 was tainted but 1980- which also had a boycott- wasn’t? Thats pretty hypocritical thinking.
@@saragrant9749 not really when you think about how powerful the Soviet gymnasts were.
@@em_mkay I suppose you saw nothing wrong with how they and East Germany in particular CONTROLLED the judging back then? I saw some absolutely abismally obvious overscored routines back during the Soviet era- 1988 being the culmination and 1992 thankfully being the last. 1979 worlds was the epitome of Soviet taint, right down to the crowd who deliberately harassed and and made fun of the Romanian athletes, as well as coaches that jeered them when they looked bothered by it. 1984 may not have had the Soviets at it, but at least it had RESPECTFUL fans and coaches who supported EVERYONE.
By saying it was tainted you demean and disrespectEVERY athlete, regardless of country that did compete. They deserve admiration, appreciation and applause for their presence, try showing it!!
I think that both Ma Yanhong & Julianne McNamara were deserving of the Gold Medal. Ma's routine was innovative and had cleaner form/bodyline, but Julianne showed more variety in swing elements and transitions, punctuated by a perfectly stuck dismount. Too bad they eliminated the possibility for medal ties at the Olympics after 2000. There are too many athletes who have been robbed of a Gold Medal (e.g. Marian Dragulescu, Paul Hamm, Nastia Liukin) because of the ludicrous rule that the IOC implemented. If the athletes receive the same score, they should receive the same medal, like they would at any FIG sanctioned event.
@@rolandgreen7484 Wow! So you're ready to discredit a 16-year ruling that was already contested, objected, and reviewed by the IOC which upheld the judging from that competition? Despite what you might think, that's the end result and we all have to live with it. I could say that Andreea Raducaan was cheated out of her AA Gold Medal in 2000 because of a "bogus" technicality, too. Anyone with eyes can clearly see that Andreea was the superior gymnast on that fateful night, but she later had her medal taken away because she took a Sudafed (or something else containing Pseudoephedrine which is a banned substance)? Grow up, dude! I understand that you have nothing better to do with your time because of COVID-19 & self quarantine, but if you REALLY want to start scrutinizing people's comments, come with a better defense than that one
@@rolandgreen7484 Exactly. Hamm has the biggest joke medal in history and some idiot is crying for him to get more medals. Hilarious.
And Shannon Miller in the All around😊
@@elisapendleton5710 Shannon Miller did not tie with Gutsu in the all-around, though. She finished behind her by 0.012 points.
Especially when you consider how subjective the scoring system is.
I think this is the last Olympics that allow a Stomach Whip.
It's @ 0:28 & 2:19.
Wraps were still allowed. They were never banned, they just phased out. At the 1985 Worlds, following the 1984 Olympics, some gymnasts were still performing hip wraps. It's just that as the 80s progressed the bars were set wider and wider apart to the point that wraps were no longer possible.
Mary Lou Retton got most of the publicity for the American team in 1984 by winning the all-around, but Julianne McNamara also won gold by. winning the uneven bars. These two golds were the only golds by the American women’s gymnastics team in the 1984 Olympics.
Julianne was also the first American female gymnast to score a perfect ten in Olympic competition.
Ma’s dismount was so iconic. First Chinese female gymnast to win an Olympic title too I’m pretty sure. Love how excited she and Julianne were to share that gold!
still bummed that Olga Mostepanova never had her chance to shine at these games
Disfruta del espectáculo y deja de llorar
RUMANIA, LAS CAMPEONAS, BENDICIONES A TODAS LAS PARTICIPANTES !
Excelente atleta, mil bendiciones !
Cathy Rigby Mason McCoy's bias is almost at comic levels. The only thing funnier is Mary Lou getting a 9.95 with that hideous form break on her Tkachëv.
Not any different than Nadia getting a perfect ten… WITH A HOP ON THE DISMOUNT. At least three of those were very much IMPERFECT tens.
@@saragrant9749 it wasn't supposed to represent perfection, it was to rank the gymnasts. And Nadia's 10s were a tenth better than everyone else, at least.
@@thesovgc NOT with a hop. Whether the exercise was executed to “perfection” or not, a hop is a hop and discounts perfection- period!! People complain about it during the 1980’s with a variety of athletes but want to discount those? Absolute rubbish.
Perfeitas
This was the best Mary Lou could do that routine. The difference between a 10 and the 9.95 she received was the strange hitch she always had in her leg on the reverse Hecht.
@@rolandgreen7484 but the girl is strong!! We gotta admit that
her performance in the uneven bars and floor exercise are much better than the performance of nadia commaneci in the 1976 and 1980 olympics
I just watched the 2024 paris uneven bars. Even gymnastics went soft...
They’re doing much much harder skills now
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Pauline Huppie-Parsons hello
Wonder what Ma's dismount is in todays COP.
I think it’s an F skill.
It is an F but should be a G or evrn an H considering no one has done it since she did 40 years ago.
Notice the size and age of the chinese girls compared to today's. Today they just look like little girls.
Mary Lou had a 9.95??? Whaaatt?? How?? She was freaking mind blowing!!!! Mary will always be my girl!!! I don't know how those gymnasts can do this! I would've break my neck!
Based on her bent knees and arms going into her release moves and handstands, that was generous. Though explosive, her lines didn't compare with McNamara's or Ma's.
@@lifeandstylewiththedivas4688They weren't even close to Ma and McNamara. Retton shouldn't have scored any higher than a 9.80 or 9.85 on uneven bars with those visible errors.
Yanhong: 9.85
Lou Retton: 9.80
McNamara: 9.65
fucktard
@@metsdudenj Anyone who gives McNamara a 9.65 under 84 scoring standards is a fucking idiot and should be shot.
Worlds dumbest person