I was so incredibly happy when I saw y'all did this episode! Jung is a huge influence on how I read tarot! Thank you for giving tarot the chance to be seen in a positive light as it unfortunately gets some backlash; whether saying it's only used by scammers, is a tool used for evil, or that it's founded on delusional beliefs. All of these counterpoints come from different places that miss out on the true possibilities of tarot. I believe it is an art that can help us go down the spiral of discovery towards our true selves!
I’m in the middle of moving and I don’t have even one if my decks with my while I listen to this but I wish I did. This is the best I’ve heard Tarot explained. Nice talk. ❤️ I especially loved the idea that we have to pay for the answers by giving up our doubt. Which is maybe why people who can suspend their doubt can get deep meaning from the cards and people who come in very skeptically have a hazy message, if any at all. Thanks for this!
I suffered a very severe nervous breakdown and I was not able to get any help. I had to heal myself and I did that through tarot! Tarot literally saved my life and now I read for others, in the hope that I can encourage them toward the life enhancing spiritual path that tarot guides us toward! ❤️🙏
Was learning tarot in this way a struggle for you? 5 years post nervous breakdown and I feel like a useless bag of bones just waisting my life away. I've been trying to learn tarot for the same reasons but without success. The extreme fear that kinda shadows me is keeping me in hermit mode and without desire for much anything. It's a constant fight within bc I feel deeply and strongly that there should be more but panic sets in without fail. You are the first person in five years that actually makes me feel like I'm not alone and or losing my mind. Any advice, helpful hints, references, suggestions would greatly be appreciated. Thank you.
Wow so excited to hear about “the buzz” Susan felt picking up the Tarot cards; When I pick up my bag of Runes, I always feel a buzzy electric frisson. I also love the idea of sacrificing doubt to gain meaning. By approaching the Runes with that attitude, I find each throw exactly, amazingly, perfectly addresses my question. The idea of parametaphor is lovely! Such a creative, lateral way to pique new thoughts.
This was a nice podcast, ;thank ;you ! Re. ~35 minutes where Chang invents (what I call) zen koans (senseless statements or in case of 'koan,' questions).I see this as ultra similar to doing a tarot reading, in which the 'random' images (or senseless sentences) pull meaning out of a quiet and receptive mind. Perhaps when our mind is still, our natural filter is relaxed so more data comes in, especially from within. I see tarot, tea leaves, and 'senseless sentences' all providing the same purpose.
This episode resonated with me beyond description. It is heartening in a world esoteric practices which can often be looked down upon that there are intelligent, learned and spiritual people like susi (as also, Benebell wen!) who lead the way. Thank you!
I was hoping to get a better understanding on the Tarot and its relationship to Jungian Psychology. Instead, the guest speaker mostly rambled on spitting out jargon, avoiding Joseph’s questions and laughing inappropriately. Hands down, this was the most disappointing of the Jungian Life podcasts. Usually, I can find some good take aways from the show but not this time.
I always enjoy your talks but this is a rare miss. It isn't clear if your guest has any background in Jungian clinical work other than pulling quotes, but the entire talk came off as New Age bs. Playing around in the unconscious is not a joke, not a game.
I appreciated the questions Joseph asked, especially in the last half an hour. Just personally I find modern Tarot quite ungrounded and misleading to the Self. As I was listening I also could not get a sense of the purpose of the episode, but oh well. Conversations about the Tarot make me think of what von Franz wrote in her individuation chapter in Man and His Symbols in regards to making a living connection with the unconscious, "Many existential philosophers try to describe this state, but they go only as far as stripping off the illusions of consciousness: They go right up to the door of the unconscious and then fail to open it".
But we all have access to the unconscious and different doors open for different people. The symbols are portals, as in dreams. The walls of the clinic don't contain the unconscious, as I'm sure you're aware.
One note... not DESIRE, but INTENT holds the keys to everything.
Wonderful conversation 🙏
I was so incredibly happy when I saw y'all did this episode! Jung is a huge influence on how I read tarot!
Thank you for giving tarot the chance to be seen in a positive light as it unfortunately gets some backlash; whether saying it's only used by scammers, is a tool used for evil, or that it's founded on delusional beliefs.
All of these counterpoints come from different places that miss out on the true possibilities of tarot.
I believe it is an art that can help us go down the spiral of discovery towards our true selves!
I’m in the middle of moving and I don’t have even one if my decks with my while I listen to this but I wish I did. This is the best I’ve heard Tarot explained. Nice talk. ❤️ I especially loved the idea that we have to pay for the answers by giving up our doubt. Which is maybe why people who can suspend their doubt can get deep meaning from the cards and people who come in very skeptically have a hazy message, if any at all. Thanks for this!
I suffered a very severe nervous breakdown and I was not able to get any help. I had to heal myself and I did that through tarot! Tarot literally saved my life and now I read for others, in the hope that I can encourage them toward the life enhancing spiritual path that tarot guides us toward! ❤️🙏
Was learning tarot in this way a struggle for you? 5 years post nervous breakdown and I feel like a useless bag of bones just waisting my life away. I've been trying to learn tarot for the same reasons but without success. The extreme fear that kinda shadows me is keeping me in hermit mode and without desire for much anything. It's a constant fight within bc I feel deeply and strongly that there should be more but panic sets in without fail. You are the first person in five years that actually makes me feel like I'm not alone and or losing my mind. Any advice, helpful hints, references, suggestions would greatly be appreciated. Thank you.
Wow so excited to hear about “the buzz” Susan felt picking up the Tarot cards; When I pick up my bag of Runes, I always feel a buzzy electric frisson. I also love the idea of sacrificing doubt to gain meaning. By approaching the Runes with that attitude, I find each throw exactly, amazingly, perfectly addresses my question. The idea of parametaphor is lovely! Such a creative, lateral way to pique new thoughts.
This was a nice podcast, ;thank ;you !
Re. ~35 minutes where Chang invents (what I call) zen koans (senseless statements or in case of 'koan,' questions).I see this as ultra similar to doing a tarot reading, in which the 'random' images (or senseless sentences) pull meaning out of a quiet and receptive mind. Perhaps when our mind is still, our natural filter is relaxed so more data comes in, especially from within. I see tarot, tea leaves, and 'senseless sentences' all providing the same purpose.
This episode resonated with me beyond description. It is heartening in a world esoteric practices which can often be looked down upon that there are intelligent, learned and spiritual people like susi (as also, Benebell wen!) who lead the way. Thank you!
One of my new favorite podcasts. Thank you! So informative without being too woowoo.
Fantastic speak! I use the cards and now appreciate them on a whole new level
I just want to say this totally made my day. Thank you so much for this lovely podcast😊
Wonderful, just 😊 wonderful
Their romance unraveled like a paralogical metaphor
Wonderful ❤thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks. This was an interesting mix.
Glad you enjoyed it
Looking forward to an episode about tree of life
Love this❤
Thank you 🙏
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I was hoping to get a better understanding on the Tarot and its relationship to Jungian Psychology. Instead, the guest speaker mostly rambled on spitting out jargon, avoiding Joseph’s questions and laughing inappropriately. Hands down, this was the most disappointing of the Jungian Life podcasts. Usually, I can find some good take aways from the show but not this time.
my take as well, I couldn't finish it. the guest was a big turn-off.
That nervous laugh whenever she didn't know what to say was a dead giveaway, this was not an authentic interview.
I always enjoy your talks but this is a rare miss. It isn't clear if your guest has any background in Jungian clinical work other than pulling quotes, but the entire talk came off as New Age bs. Playing around in the unconscious is not a joke, not a game.
She’s not. She was talking about tarot. I have read an article about a therapist who would pull cards as part of treatment.
I appreciated the questions Joseph asked, especially in the last half an hour. Just personally I find modern Tarot quite ungrounded and misleading to the Self. As I was listening I also could not get a sense of the purpose of the episode, but oh well. Conversations about the Tarot make me think of what von Franz wrote in her individuation chapter in Man and His Symbols in regards to making a living connection with the unconscious, "Many existential philosophers try to describe this state, but they go only as far as stripping off the illusions of consciousness: They go right up to the door of the unconscious and then fail to open it".
But we all have access to the unconscious and different doors open for different people. The symbols are portals, as in dreams. The walls of the clinic don't contain the unconscious, as I'm sure you're aware.
@@feathernorth are symbols portals, or is your mind playing tricks on you?
@@feathernorth As I'm sure you're aware, there are many fake gurus and flakes who try to take advantage of vulnerable people who actually need help.
This podcast was incredible! I enjoyed it so much I just ordered my first tarot card deck AND your book, TAROT CORRESPONDENCES.. ☀️🤍