Overall aspect : strictly superb ! My friend who likes steam engines for aesthetics reason will be amazed when I'll show her mine, after I have bought one. Features : cranked to 11, Hornby got the lesson. And the assembly quality looks fine. Hats off for the Dapol-like tender-locomotive coupling. Driving train : seems not let down, and Hornby-like for the best (top end quality), tender pickups of course, best of Hornby oblige. So, dynamic qualities ? In one word : Hornby, at the best sens of the brand. I just have to wait a little to buy mine, Rails of Sheffield had been looted away of this model. 250€ earmarked now for her, worth it every centime !
Hi mate I hope you are well Yes hornby qc does seem to be better. They some good features on this model. It seems to have gone down well with other people who have the model too. Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting Keep safe ARP
Looks great, can’t wait to get a BR version. I was hoping there might be a way to reduce the big gap between the loco and tender, but doesn’t look like you can.
Hi mate I hope you are well Yes I know a few people who are looking forward to br versions. They can doors my get hit if you can move the loco and tender connection drawbar. Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting Keep safe ARP
Hi Robin I hope you are well Yes it stunning model Hornby should be proud of the model They some nice touches on it and in detail bag. Thank you for the kind words Keep safe ARP
Steam locomotives on British railways never had "working lamps". The lamps were positioned for identifying the type of train being hauled. They were lit with oil only for night time operation. New build LMS, LNER, and SR steam locos post WW2 had electric lights fitted but were quickly abandoned as they couldn't be seen by signalmen during daylight hours. None of the 999 BR Standard steam locos were ever fitted with electric lights. Hornby's attempt to have lights on steam locos is merely a gimmick which is completely wrong from the historical perspective.
Hi Jerry I hope you are well and your family are well too Yes it looks like hornby have up there game with this model Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting on this review Keep safe ARP
I know zero about model locomotives, but have some idea about tooling and electro-mechanical assemblies. Given the complexity of tooling and assembly required, and the relatively small production runs over which tooling costs are amortised, I am astonished that they only cost £200.
Hi mate I hope you are well Yes I know they been some bad reviews and issues with loco and tender connection Yes £225 is what hornby price it as. I think it a good model over all. I've no issues with mine yet. Thank you for commenting Keep safe ARP
Hi mate I hope you are well It is a lovely model and some great features. Runs well too Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting Keep safe ARP
Good afternoon hope you are well. Super review of a lovely model. Lots of features. Glad to see the new draw bar arrangement. Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.
Hello Adi, great review and glad to see another in good condition, mine was perfect out the box. Good to see you had a similar experience. Subscribed 🎉
Sorry my camera work not great. I have brain damage and cerebral palsy. I try my best But I apologise in advance for it. I'll also put your channel in the card on a few videos Keep safe ARP
@@AdiPullen your content is amazing mate! 🤩 you do an incredible job and are very in depth with all your explanations. Don’t apologize. Keep up the great work.😎
Hi mate I hope you are well Yes it a top model. I try my best to find faults with it but I could not apart from dirty wheels. Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting Keep safe ARP
Nice video Adi, Sams Trains is have terrible trouble with his. I have pre-ordered the sound and steam version, I think mine is dues for delivery by the end of the year...Simon
Hi Simon I hope you are well Yes I know sam had issues Class47Peter and mine was fine. A review only someone opinion give or take. I love it Keep safe ARP
Hi mike I hope you are well Thank you for the kind words Yes I did think of you when I was saying it. That why I said some may wait for a sale on them I can't blame them for it. Keep safe ARP
Good review! Unfortunately this is a little too expensive for me, so I’ll probably try and find an older version. Also, after seeing Sam’s review it appears that the quality is pretty dodgy on these…
Yes Sam's just one review class 47 Peter said he had no issues too I know review are only someone opinion Yes I understand it a little expensive Keep safe ARP
@@AdiPullen of course, but for me, I’m not willing to spend £200+ on a loco that is known to have quality issues. Sure, there are good examples out there, and I’m glad because the Black Five is a popular loco, a do know many were looking forward to this, but personally I am more than happy to go with the slightly older model, as it is not bad by any means.
@@denishilder3124 fair enough, I have seen Adi and Peter’s reviews and both of them seem to have had better examples, I just don’t feel good spending so much money on a model though, knowing that there definitely are bad examples. Sam also gets a lot of Hornby models that are poorly assembled, or don’t work properly, and I find it very hard to believe that he would be the only one to revive bad examples. £206 plus shipping (for me to Canada) is just way too much for a loco known to have quality issues, and in all honesty it really begs the question as to why Hornby think they can price their models the way they do. Say what you like about Bachmann’s prices, but at least with their new tooled stuff you always get a model that is built well, runs like a dream, and is going to last. Sadly, I really can’t see myself buying many of Hornby’s new models, as you never get what you pay for, and this isn’t the only new model from them this year with problems, both Sam and Adi had issues with the 2MT as well…
Hi Adi, Nice positive review. Sam wasn't that happy with his badly assembled and faulty model. It still is a win or loose with Hornby concerning Quality Control and that's not acceptable. Reviews from your and other You Tube channels do have an impact so it is in their own interest that manufactures have efficient and reliable QC. Spread the word my friend ! Thanks for this review & all the best.
Hi Phil. I hope you are well Yes I've only seen one bad review which is sam review. OK Peter had a loco and tender connection issue which was easy fix. But it alway good to watch other to get a better picture of a model Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting Keep safe ARP
Hi yes Sam's was not quite so nice ( BUT DESERVEDLY SO) unfortunately for hornby sam goes into great detail ie that running board ALSO does appear to have a slight bend starting above the middle drive wheel But this guy never checks that so dont complain at sam for doing his job
Hi Adi There are many issues with the new Hornby Black Five it is not the accurate ultimate Black Five that Hornby claims it to be. Some very basic details are incorrect, the gap between the running plate and the boiler, bogie wheel profile, brake shoes are the incorrect type, the cab interior is the wrong colour, and the back head detail in the cab is incorrect. The lamps and cylinder relief valves are hopelessly out of scale, much of the pipe work should be black. Why have I mentioned all of this??? There is a massive amount of high quality accurate research and published information about the Black Fives, yet Hornby still gets very very basic stuff wrong this is highly frustrating. TH-cam reviewers are not covering a lot of these issues. Some may call me a rivet counter but it’s 2024 and this is a plus £200 model and Hornby have growing market competition. Please somebody do the wonderful Black Five justice in model form ACCURASCALE!!!
Hi mate I hope you are well I've not said it the ultimate black 5. Class47Peter did. I ask is it hornby best lms model. I word it carefully. Am happy with mine as far as I can see it a great model. The only issue I had was dirty wheels. The only bad review I've seen is Sam's review. Thank you for watching and commenting Keep safe ARP
Overall aspect : strictly superb ! My friend who likes steam engines for aesthetics reason will be amazed when I'll show her mine, after I have bought one.
Features : cranked to 11, Hornby got the lesson. And the assembly quality looks fine. Hats off for the Dapol-like tender-locomotive coupling.
Driving train : seems not let down, and Hornby-like for the best (top end quality), tender pickups of course, best of Hornby oblige.
So, dynamic qualities ? In one word : Hornby, at the best sens of the brand.
I just have to wait a little to buy mine, Rails of Sheffield had been looted away of this model. 250€ earmarked now for her, worth it every centime !
Hi mate
I hope you are well
Yes hornby qc does seem to be better.
They some good features on this model.
It seems to have gone down well with other people who have the model too.
Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting
Keep safe ARP
Oh Adi your piano playing gets me everytime😂. Cracking loco this one!
At least am good at something
🤔😉
You did a great job on the review 0:21
Hi mate
I hope you are well
Thank you for the kind words
Am glad you like the video
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@@AdiPullen You're welcome and yes I'm doing well
Looks great, can’t wait to get a BR version. I was hoping there might be a way to reduce the big gap between the loco and tender, but doesn’t look like you can.
Hi mate
I hope you are well
Yes I know a few people who are looking forward to br versions.
They can doors my get hit if you can move the loco and tender connection drawbar.
Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting
Keep safe ARP
Puttin' on the Glitz, are we, lol? The tune is Puttin' on the Ritz, and is coupled up to Strictly Come Dancing. Nice and catchy.
I love Fred Astaire music
That is a lovely looking model, the movable working lamps are a great touch. Nice review Adi thanks for sharing.
All the best Rob.
Hi Robin
I hope you are well
Yes it stunning model
Hornby should be proud of the model
They some nice touches on it and in detail bag.
Thank you for the kind words
Keep safe ARP
Steam locomotives on British railways never had "working lamps". The lamps were positioned for identifying the type of train being hauled. They were lit with oil only for night time operation. New build LMS, LNER, and SR steam locos post WW2 had electric lights fitted but were quickly abandoned as they couldn't be seen by signalmen during daylight hours. None of the 999 BR Standard steam locos were ever fitted with electric lights. Hornby's attempt to have lights on steam locos is merely a gimmick which is completely wrong from the historical perspective.
@@crewelocoman5b161 alot of gimmick in hobby
Hello Adi. Stanier Black 5 are one of my favourite loco's . great video my friend.
Hello Mr t
I hope you and your family are well.
Yes hornby have a stunning model here.
It such a good runner too.
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A very nice lock, maybe a retooled scot/patriot is next. Loving the lamps
Hi h
I hope you are well
Yes it a very smart loco.
Yes but I'll love more pre grouping locomotive instead
Only my opinion
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The lamps are completely wrong.
Great review, they really have pulled out all the stops. Food for thought......
Thanks Adi
Hi Jerry
I hope you are well and your family are well too
Yes it looks like hornby have up there game with this model
Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting on this review
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I know zero about model locomotives, but have some idea about tooling and electro-mechanical assemblies. Given the complexity of tooling and assembly required, and the relatively small production runs over which tooling costs are amortised, I am astonished that they only cost £200.
Hi mate
I hope you are well
Yes I know they been some bad reviews and issues with loco and tender connection
Yes £225 is what hornby price it as.
I think it a good model over all.
I've no issues with mine yet.
Thank you for commenting
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What a beautiful model!
Hi mate
I hope you are well
It is a lovely model and some great features. Runs well too
Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting
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Good afternoon hope you are well. Super review of a lovely model. Lots of features. Glad to see the new draw bar arrangement. Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.
Hi Paul.
I hope you are well
They nothing wrong with the rr version. This is a top model depending on who reviews it.
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Have you seen Sam's Trains review?. He can be a bit unlucky with his purchases. Cheers Paul.
I have he does seem to have more issues that others.
Hello Adi, great review and glad to see another in good condition, mine was perfect out the box. Good to see you had a similar experience. Subscribed 🎉
Hi mate
I hope you are well
Thank for the kind words
I can only review what I brought.
It a fantastic model
Thank you for the sub.
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@@AdiPullen completely agree with that.
Sorry my camera work not great.
I have brain damage and cerebral palsy.
I try my best
But I apologise in advance for it.
I'll also put your channel in the card on a few videos
Keep safe ARP
@@AdiPullen your content is amazing mate! 🤩 you do an incredible job and are very in depth with all your explanations. Don’t apologize. Keep up the great work.😎
@@Proper_Chuffed thank you
Only think missing was the history I normally do on loco review
Health issues stop me.
But thank you
a great review of a great loco
Hi Kevin
I hope you are well
Thank you for the kind words
Yes it a lovely model with alot of features
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Really good review, I agree it is a superb effort from Hornby, thank you
Many thanks!
Thanks Adi...good review.
Hi mate
I hope you are well
Yes it a top model.
I try my best to find faults with it but I could not apart from dirty wheels.
Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting
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Good to see. Any idea when the real #5200 was built by the LMS?
I can find out for you I normally do do history but I did not this time but I'll find it out for you
@gilbertporter4992 I've put history on my community page for you
Nice video Adi, Sams Trains is have terrible trouble with his. I have pre-ordered the sound and steam version, I think mine is dues for delivery by the end of the year...Simon
Hi Simon
I hope you are well
Yes I know sam had issues
Class47Peter and mine was fine.
A review only someone opinion give or take.
I love it
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Sam's trains also runs his trains on 90% carpet so no wonder he has troubles..
This was a brand-new locomotive, but I know what you mean about running them on carpet, never a good idea.
@@peterkay6845 to be honest I did as a young kid till my grandfather told it bad for the models
@@peterkay6845 Does that explain crank pins coming out?
Nice review mate, too expensive for me but well done 🎉
Hi mike
I hope you are well
Thank you for the kind words
Yes I did think of you when I was saying it.
That why I said some may wait for a sale on them I can't blame them for it.
Keep safe ARP
Good review! Unfortunately this is a little too expensive for me, so I’ll probably try and find an older version. Also, after seeing Sam’s review it appears that the quality is pretty dodgy on these…
Yes Sam's just one review class 47 Peter said he had no issues too
I know review are only someone opinion
Yes I understand it a little expensive
Keep safe ARP
@@AdiPullen of course, but for me, I’m not willing to spend £200+ on a loco that is known to have quality issues. Sure, there are good examples out there, and I’m glad because the Black Five is a popular loco, a do know many were looking forward to this, but personally I am more than happy to go with the slightly older model, as it is not bad by any means.
Forget Sam Strains all the other reviews I have seen of this loco have been very positive!
@@denishilder3124 fair enough, I have seen Adi and Peter’s reviews and both of them seem to have had better examples, I just don’t feel good spending so much money on a model though, knowing that there definitely are bad examples. Sam also gets a lot of Hornby models that are poorly assembled, or don’t work properly, and I find it very hard to believe that he would be the only one to revive bad examples. £206 plus shipping (for me to Canada) is just way too much for a loco known to have quality issues, and in all honesty it really begs the question as to why Hornby think they can price their models the way they do. Say what you like about Bachmann’s prices, but at least with their new tooled stuff you always get a model that is built well, runs like a dream, and is going to last. Sadly, I really can’t see myself buying many of Hornby’s new models, as you never get what you pay for, and this isn’t the only new model from them this year with problems, both Sam and Adi had issues with the 2MT as well…
Hi Adi, Nice positive review. Sam wasn't that happy with his badly assembled and faulty model. It still is a win or loose with Hornby concerning Quality Control and that's not acceptable. Reviews from your and other You Tube channels do have an impact so it is in their own interest that manufactures have efficient and reliable QC. Spread the word my friend ! Thanks for this review & all the best.
Hi Phil.
I hope you are well
Yes I've only seen one bad review which is sam review.
OK Peter had a loco and tender connection issue which was easy fix.
But it alway good to watch other to get a better picture of a model
Thank you for the kind words and watching and commenting
Keep safe ARP
@@AdiPullenadd another TH-camr. By the look of it. It not a fluke. Every one probably has it.
@@gamerfan8445 mine had no issues
@@AdiPullen for now
Hi yes Sam's was not quite so nice ( BUT DESERVEDLY SO) unfortunately for hornby sam goes into great detail ie that running board ALSO does appear to have a slight bend starting above the middle drive wheel But this guy never checks that so dont complain at sam for doing his job
Hi Adi
There are many issues with the new Hornby Black Five it is not the accurate ultimate Black Five that Hornby claims it to be.
Some very basic details are incorrect, the gap between the running plate and the boiler, bogie wheel profile, brake shoes are the incorrect type, the cab interior is the wrong colour, and the back head detail in the cab is incorrect.
The lamps and cylinder relief valves are hopelessly out of scale, much of the pipe work should be black.
Why have I mentioned all of this???
There is a massive amount of high quality accurate research and published information about the Black Fives, yet Hornby still gets very very basic stuff wrong this is highly frustrating.
TH-cam reviewers are not covering a lot of these issues.
Some may call me a rivet counter but it’s 2024 and this is a plus £200 model and Hornby have growing market competition.
Please somebody do the wonderful Black Five justice in model form ACCURASCALE!!!
Hi mate
I hope you are well
I've not said it the ultimate black 5.
Class47Peter did.
I ask is it hornby best lms model.
I word it carefully.
Am happy with mine as far as I can see it a great model.
The only issue I had was dirty wheels.
The only bad review I've seen is Sam's review.
Thank you for watching and commenting
Keep safe ARP
@@AdiPullenthere more bad reviews on it.