What's My Line? - Brian Epstein; Tony Bennett; Paul Anka [panel] (Oct 18, 1964)
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- MYSTERY GUESTS: Brian Epstein (manager of the Beatles) Tony Bennett
PANEL: Arlene Francis, Paul Anka, Dorothy Kilgallen, Bennett Cerf
NOTE: Though this is an abnormally short show, under 22 minutes, nothing is actually missing from it. No confirmed explanation is available, but it may have been due to election coverage. - บันเทิง
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Brian Epstein, an intelligent, talented, foreseeing and elegant young man, extremely humble as well. Gone way too soon.
Sadly,he had less than 2 years to live😢🎩
“Mr. Barry Epstein…”
Rest In Peace, Tony Bennett! Thank you for all the great memories and music!
And then three years later, Brian died. The Beatles stopped doing live shows and that was one of the things that crushed him.
It had become pointless for The Beatles to do live shows (other than their impromptu rooftop performance) because no one could hear them over all of the screaming by the fans.
So said that he passed, he was only 32
Yeah, Brian was used to being in charge booking the shows, handling the finances, arranging the touring schedules and live appearances, etc. When the boys had enough of the mania and stopped all the shows, Brian felt useless i suppose, and the Beatles were doing what they wanted and probably not listening to him nearly as much, causing depression and his accidental overdose.
Hysterical, Daly calls him Barry Epstein, and under his breath Brian corrects him, and Daly totally misses it. Being a huge Beatles fan, even back then I would have recognized him.
Hysterical??? No, it was insulting and unprofessional.
Such a hugely popular show back then and the host himself couldn't even get his name right.
John does call him Brian later in the conversation.
no i think john caught on to brian correcting him and was probably thankful that brian was so kind as to not embarrass him
@@sbalman yes he did. He was no doubt embarassed that he flubbed Brian's name. And Brian was a gentleman in correcting him quietly. Everybody has a bad day...and Daly did say he had a cold...maybe he was doped up on cold meds!! LOL
I noticed that too
Watching this hits different today.... RIP Mr. Tony Bennett🥺
Paul Anka was adorable (and great head of hair!).
he sure was!
He was! And so little.
He's a superb Password player. Check out some of the early Password episodes online where he is a participant. He took that game very seriously.....
Brian Epstein- the legendary discoverer, and the manager of The Beatles- the most acclaimed, creative, tremendous, innovative, moving, versatile, wonderful rock band in the world history !
Sorry- I had to write all this boring stuff as being a devouted and rejoiced fan of Fab Four. I used to live and work in Liverpool, England- while tracing their roots for a year or so. My HUGE pleasure !!!!
Never mind folks... don't mind me.
Rest In Heavenly Peace Brian !!!!!!!
Witold Banasik - You are totally forgiven. The Beatles certainly deserved all of the acclaim.
Lovely guy, Brian, their mentor. R.I.P. sorry for his early demise. ❤
When Dorothy asks Brian Epstein if he would say, "Mary had a little lamb", he could've said "No", and that answer would end her turn! Anyway, asking a contestant to say a phrase does not properly conform to a "yes or no" question!
Understood
Was to listen to any different pronunciations.
@@dcasper8514 Yes, but all the panelists were ALLOWED to ask were yes-or-no questions. Gathering information on their pronunciation through other responses was not permitted.
So cute when Dorothy comments on The Beatles, calling them "cute, sweet, and lovable".
See my channel.
In re George, I agree. Don't quite see it with the others, but they certainly had talent. :)
and funny,the best!
Dorothy had attended a party at the Plaza Hotel in New York City in February of that year to meet The Beatles. She had her picture taken with George and thought Paul was charming. It's difficult to believe that she hadn't met Brian at that same party.
@Oona.
YAWN!
Paul Anka is a wonderful singer, writer and actor and doesn’t seem to me to have ever been given enough credit for some fantastic music!❣️. I LOVE his music.
My parents song was "Because of You" and it was the only time my Mom could get my Papa to go out on the dance floor at family gatherings and he would nervously sway back and forth w/her when the band would play their song. Great memory.
Bennett made almost no attempt to disguise his distinctive voice. Surprised the panel didn't guess his identity from that alone.
Too bad that none of the Beatles ever appeared on WML as Mystery Guest.
Johan Bengtsson -When did they have the time? OR, how would you get them out of the hotel, past all those kids, to get to the studio? Almost an impossible proposition.
Pete Best appeared on I've Got A Secret -- does that count?
I think he was on WML too, in 1964
You think wrong
I remember seeing the original broadcast of that! Despite being a big Beatles' fan even then (and now), Pete Best's story was news to me. We didn't have access to info like we do now.
I'm surprised they didn't latch on to Tony's voice. He wasn't disguising it all that well.
Joe Postove Maybe that's why they didn't recognize it. They were so used to people attempting to disguise their voices that they didn't tune into recognize an undisguised one.
Would have loved to love Dorothy. So sad of her untimely passing
I like her, a very smart lady...I read everything I can find about her.
I love this yeah yeah yeah! Thank you Brian for bringing us the Beatles.
If it wasn't for Brian, we would have never known the Beatles. A strange thought.
Wow, that had to be a record... the speed with which the panel guessed the first two contestants.
What a great smile Paul has! ❤️
Should have kept his original nose. More masculine looking imho
Yup, it’s 2020 and Tony Bennett and Paul Anka are both out there performing.
Two highly talented individuals continuing to give great enjoyment to their adoring fans.
2022 is the same. IMHO, the great musicians are those that adapt and change like Anka and Bennett. They also help others make their way.
Tony Bennett is benefiting from his collaboration with Lady Gaga. 😍🌞
Seeing the dog walker reminds me of a great change that happened in NY since 1964. In those days, huge numbers of dogs in a small area led to very dirty sidewalks. Much later, NYC required dog owners to clean up after their dogs and the quality of life improved there.
aka the Pooper Scooper law. Thanks for the context!
Paul Anka's music of the 1950s still sends me after all these years -- and here he is one of the youngest panelists ever, about 23. It is a big world of music -- there was room for the fab 4s and after, and Paul.
Completely different music styles
@@dinahbrown902 and soulier investments, yes different music styles, but both still touch our hearts regardless of time!
Surprised how insulting Cerf was about The Beatles.
It was nice that Dorothy defended them.
Kathy Coleman, a lot of adults made fun of The Beatles in the beginning. Clearly, The Beatles had the last laugh.
Bennett just wanted it to be the year 1931 forever. 23 Skidoo!!
Yes. Sometimes, I wish Cerf, would 'just go away'!
He was only kidding !
@@keithhyttinen8275 that's more like from the 20s, with the jalopies, the raccoon coats, and the cat's pajamas.
Mr Daly says: ''Mr Barry Epstein...'' to which Mr Epstein replies in a low voice...''Brian...''
Jason Burns poor Brian 😕
well, John is not God
Yeah, you'd think the damn host would get his name right!
Far from difficult.
He could've been thinking of their drummer, Barry Wom.
Wayne J Could be. Although Daly should've really known what Barry Wom looked like by then!
The record Daly was referring to was the traditional Scottish folk song, "My Bonnie". They recorded it during their second visit in Germany with Tony Sherdian under the name "The Beat Brothers" in 1961.
A historical episode for me as I am a Beatles fan from the beginning.... watching these old WML shows its like watching for the 1st time
Arlene Francis was so beautiful
Exactly, 57 years ago today...
Incredible.
This is like a form of time travel.
Love every second.
How odd that today is the day that I heard that Tony Bennett passed on, and while perusing WML I come across Tony some 59 years earlier. Awesome!
I have been going through the series of WML for some months now, and similarly, I just happened across this one tonight.
Years later he could still be found searching for his heart in San Francisco.
As a fan of anything Beatles, thanks for posting this gem. Great to see Tony Bennett in his prime, too. Pity that John Daly didn't let Brian Epstein speak a little more, though. I think the panel would have liked some interaction with him.
The host didn't even get his name right. Totally inexcusable.
He called him "Barry".
Then Brian immediately whispered "Brian" under his breath to him.
Ralph Alden - And here where it all began - the wonderful Beatles phenomenon.
It would've taken him the whole season to tell his story.
It is so sad that now Tony Bennett gets around in a wheelchair and has problems remembering due to Alzheimer's.
People so formal and polite back then. @15:30 Mr Daly even refers to his wife as "Mrs Daly".
Dorothy asking Brian Epstein to say "Mary Had a Little Lamb", predates Paul McCartney's song of the same name, by 8 years.
mary had a little lamb she also had a bear i saw her little lamb but i never saw her bear 😂😂
You realize that Mary Had a Little Lamb is a nursery rhyme written almost 200 years ago, right?
I think his mother was named Mary...
I think it was to gage his accent.
John Daly got one thing wrong. He said Brian Epstein was salaried. Actually he was self-employed as the owner of the agency (NEMS Enterprises) that managed the Beatles, Gerry and the Pacemakers, Billy J. Kramer and the Dakotas, etc.
He also referred to him as Barry Epstein.
He got everything wrong. Cerf was an ass and who is better remembered than the Beatles?
As much as I have enjoyed watching these videos from the beginning and delighting in them and admiring John Daly's moderating skills, there is nothing more maddening as when there is a guest you are looking forward to watching and then John takes it upon himself to do all the talking! Poor Brian Epstein was first called by the wrong name, and then is barely allowed to speak for himself as John answers the questions directed to Brian Epstein and tells the stories that should be Brian Epstein's to tell. Seems rude. GRRRR! So disappointing.
But thank you, David, for all the work and sweat and love you have poured into this project. I have been following your efforts since almost the beginning, and am so grateful.
First off, I agree with you about the lack of interviews after the segments, even for the regular guests, many of whom seemed like they could have had a few interesting things to say. It's one of the very, very few big criticisms I have of John Daly as well, that he rushed between segments. Even when there was a bit of talking, John usually ended up monopolizing the time with essentially a monologue, the guests doing little more than offering the same Yes and No responses as during the game!
Second, you're very welcome, and I'm very glad you've been enjoying the shows.
Third, and least significant, my name is Gary, not David. :)
+What's My Line? GAH! I was trying to remember your name without looking it up. So sorry! I'm blushing--something I haven't done in many a year, ha ha!
So let me say it again. Thank you, GARY, for all the work, sweat and love you have poured into this project. Especially when Freemantle (hope I got that name right; too lazy to look it up; obviously haven't learned my lesson), was threatening it all. My heart was breaking for you.
I also love reading all the comments. All the regular commenters are just great! And you are great at keeping it clean and civil.
Kim Fuhrmann Really, don't think twice about it-- it's not like my name is obvious from my account name. :) And thanks for the support re: the problems with Fremantle. Things seem to have subsided-- I still get claims from them on new videos, but now they consistently release the claims on appeal. The support of the community was what kept me going, and ultimately, I think it's the overwhelming support I had behind me that probably convinced Fremantle to back off!
I agree with you about your criticism of "What's My Line's" erstwhile host John Daly. Daly allowed precious little time for the celebrity guest interviews, seemingly preferring the sound of his own mellifluous tones to actually interviewing a celebrity guest seriously--rather ironic for a man who prided himself a news journalist.
Also no wonder when Henry Morgan (of "I've Got a Secret") appeared as a guest panelist on "What's My Line?" he made fun of the pretentiousness of some of the practices on the Goodson-Todman sister show. Sometimes some of the staff and/or talent of "What's My Line?" really did seem to have an inflated sense of the program's importance. After all, it was only a game.
"What's My Line?" wasted so damn much time just with the introduction of the panel and their walks through the curtain those later years, was better-paced when the panel were already seated at the desk and just began game-play in the years up to Fred Allen as a panelist.
Then there had been that horrid "walk of shame" for the contestants in the early years, which received near universal condemnation for its awkwardness (for both contestants and panelists alike). With all the germaphobes around today a segment like that (involving a total stranger shaking a celebrity's hand) would never fly, not unless Purell were a sponsor and provided each of the panelists a dispenser of the sponsor's product at her/his respective desk-place.
The one thing I preferred about the syndicated (1968-75) version of "What's My Line?" is there was more time for contestant demonstrations and even performances from a Mystery Guest, as well that short game of "Who's Who" played if the program ran under, in which four audience members selected before the show appeared on stage with four occupations indicated on cards, and the panelists would each take a turn to see if he/she could place the correct occupation card to its proper contestant.
Perhaps had John Daly not so frequently played a fourth round (which always seemed to be abbreviated anyway), he'd have had more time for a celebrity interview. I think the truth of the matter is Daly was just plain no good at small talk. But with a few days' preparation for an already-booked Mystery Guest, he'd have certainly had sufficient time to prepare at least a few intelligent questions to ask the guest player.
And poor Arlene Francis was almost always asking one of the musical mystery guests if he/she would sing even just a verse from a hit tune. To my recollection, only twice in the original version's 17 years' history did musical performances happen--a Christmastime appearance by a Salvation Army band playing a holiday tune, and when Louis Armstrong seized (and he really did "seize" it) the opportunity to sing his hit from the Broadway musical "Hello Dolly," which, according to Gil Fates' book. infuriated some production staff when Armstrong wound up singing the entire tune for the panel and studio audience (that had to be edited out for broadcast).
I also seem to recall the inability to include musical performances on many television shows (game and talk shows included) was something to do with ASCAP (American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers) and/or BMI (Broadcast Music, Inc.) fees having to be paid if any licensed music was used on a program.
But John Daly could certainly have spent a little less time yakking himself and been more generous in providing the interview time to the Mystery Guests, the main reason many viewers even watched "What' My Line?" in the first place. Daly was charming, and intelligent and literate, no doubt about those praiseworthy qualities. But he was also a bit of a tight-ass when it came to any variations from the norm, even when that attitude made the program stale and contributed to its eventual cancellation. Had Daly only earlier had that sense of playfulness he exhibited when he was the very last Mystery Guest of the program he had long hosted, "What's My Line?" might have lasted a few more years on CBS in prime time.
gymnastix I offered my own agreement above, right here, that John should have done a better job with the time after the gameplay was over. He was also terrible at anything relating to the most basic biology, and I agree that the 4th rounds were usually so rushed, the show would have been better served by spending that time talking to the guests more. That said. . .
The show lasted 17 and a half years, and outlived two of its regular panelists. It wasn't just WML that was cancelled in 1967, ALL the panel shows still airing in primetime were cancelled. The fact that WML was the longest running game show in prime time TV history is to John's credit; he's hardly to blame for the fact that panel shows had simply run their course. (Plus which, WML was just never quite the same after Dorothy died). I think maybe you've absorbed some of Gil Fates's attitude towards John in his book, which was decidedly skimpy on praise, yet spent a couple of PAGES essentially blaming John for WML's cancellation (quite unfairly, imo).
To each his own, so of course, I understand if you prefer the more varied format of the syndicated series for the reasons you said, but I find that most fans of the CBS series (and there are a lot more of them than of the syndicated series) have a great deal of respect for John specifically because he refused to allow the sorts of shenanigans that were routine on the syndicated series once he was out of the way as an obstacle to what Gil Fates wanted to do. Could the primetime show have lasted another season or two with the kinds of radical changes they introduced in the syndicated series? I doubt it, but even if so, it wouldn't have been the same show. And I respect it all the more for staying true to itself for all those years, going out head held high with the full dignity and class it always had, rather than diluting or corrupting the format to squeeze a few more drops of blood from the stone.
There were, in fact, a lot more musical performances on WML than you're remembering-- we had a thread about this in the Facebook group a while back which refreshed my memory, because I, too, only remembered it happening a couple of times. But the folks in the group were collectively able to point to at least a dozen examples-- Beatrice Lillie, singing garbagemen, even a calypso group singing a song about WML! It's on my list to someday make a video compiling all these rare instances of musical performances on WML.
Minor clarification on the Louis Armstrong story: it wasn't anyone on the WML staff that was upset, not at all. They were delighted. It was Louis's manager, Joe Glaser, who was having a stroke offstage, because Louis was specifically contracted to debut "Hello, Dolly!" on television a few days later on the Perry Como Show. So Louis was outright breaking his contract by acceding to the request-- but he was that sort of person, the joy of singing and the joy of the joy it brought to others was what mattered to him, not some silly contract. He had an agent to worry about THAT stuff. ;)
ASCAP royalties and such are a big problem nowadays, but weren't a major issue in the WML era, especially in the case of a spontaneous, short acapella half-chorus or chorus of a song. I doubt WML was ever charged royalties for the few unplanned songs that were sung over the years, but if so, the expense wouldn't have been great. Nowadays, music clearances/royalties create HUGE problems.
Other artists managed by Brian Epstein included The Forumost, Cilla Black, Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas, and Gerry & The Pacemakers.
Vahan Nisanian AND TOMMY QUICKLY! Don't forget my boy.
i love Cilla, wish americans would discover her.
@@sharksport01 Dionne Warwick gave Cilla a bad press in the United States because Cilla recorded Anyone Who Had A Heart and had a major #1 hit in Britain. Dionne's version reached only #42 in Britain, but was a top ten hit in the US.
@@Ross.Cavendish
oh thats too bad, I love them both.
I think that he also managed 'The Cyrckle' (OHW: "Red Rubber Ball").
I was really surprised with the dog walker when Bennett DIDN'T ask something like: "Do your extraordinarily good looks have anything to do with your occupation?" He could be just as lecherous as Hal Block at times,, but always slightly more classy about it.
RIP Tony Bennett
So it is almost the 50th anniversary of this broadcast. 50 years. Tony Bennett is still performing, I hear way into his 80s. Speechless. Try and top *that* Justin Bieber.
Be interesting to know how often Paul and Tony worked together in the next 50 years.
Ouch! Justin Bieber in 50 years!
Michael Maloney LOL!!!!!!!
It has already been way too long.
soulierinvestments, are you still posting these days? I have seen your comments here and on other WML videos, and I enjoy them.
Bennett is 91 and still singing
Not terribly interesting, but I was actually on another tab in my browser when Tony Bennett came on and answered his first question. When he said the word "Yes" I said to myself, "That's Tony Bennett!" -- Either that, or Fat Tony, from The Simpsons! I don't really know much about Bennett, but it's such a distinctive voice, it's hard to imagine how they failed to recognise him.
It is remarkable that Tony is still alive!
Sadly, not anymore.
It's crazy to think that just over a year later, Dorothy would be dead, followed by Brian, just two years after her.
ya gotta love the gloves~ I was just a wee lad, but I remember the 60's. My sisters wore gloves - Jackie O influence I suppose.
Gloves and hats were well-entrenched fashion traditions that died out in the 60s.
Audrey Hepburn brought that high society fashion to the masses with her various movie roles in the 1950's up until 1963, '64. In many films she was dressed like a princess, with over-the-elbow gloves.
First time B.E. saw the Beatles he saw what they could become instantly. He changed how they dressed and how they acted in public, creating their image.
Very sad how this man’s life ended in 1967. Some say the Beatles would have moved away from Brian managing them and maybe Brian sensed that was coming.
Someone in that group loved Buddy Holley's "Crickets".
Hence the name
"BEATLES ".
When Tony Hatch wrote "I Know A Place" for Petula Clark, he deliberately included the lyric "a cellar full of noise" as a reference to the title of Brian Epstein's book, which in turn refers to Liverpool's Cavern Club where Epstein first heard The Beatles (with Peter Best, not Ringo Starr) perform.
th-cam.com/video/jBnO_c4ruis/w-d-xo.html
He corrected John and said Brian when he said Barry. Thank Goodness he got it right when he mentioned his name again.
Paul Anka, Tony Bennett, the Beatles’ manager and the G String Strugglers’ washboard player. All giants of the music industry!!
Paul Bradford - That broadcast had it all!
Rest In Peace SongMaster Miestro Tony Bennett.🎙🎶🎵🎶🎶
Am Particularly Fond of Your Duets with Madam Lady Gaga.🎨
The last contestant plays the washboard in a band named "The G-string Strugglers" at a club called "Your Fathers Moustache". What more can one ask for? ;)
SuperWinterborn: it's all there!
SuperSummerBorn...
Lol...we have to get you on stage.
It was a no-brainer that Paul Anka would know Brian Epstein. Tony Bennett is like a freak of nature and that is meant as a compliment. Still performing in his 90'S. Thanks for the video.
Tony 50 years ago and still going strong!
In the case of the dog walker, when Bennet asked if she did her service for humans or animals, the hesitation in her answer is what gave it away.
SO great to see Tony Bennet early on!!
My second birthday! I doubt I stayed up for this though. My parents probably pinch hit for me.
Every time I hear the name Brian Epstein, I automatically transpose it to "Eppy Brianstone" from that FLINTSTONES episode. 😀
all the actual Beatles affectionately called him "Eppy"
It was the day after my 4th birthday. Two days before Arlene's birthday!
Tony Bennett is now 92. His Bless him.
My all-time favorite WML moment: at 6:25 Dorothy defends the still-new Beatles against the typical adult's jibe. In this case, Bennett takes a swipe at them at 6:08.
It's an OK boomer moment if we transpose the generations.
I'm not sure Bennet's comment is a swipe... his comment could be in the context of regretting being in the middle of such a cultural hysteria...
@@joemartines3545 You definitely could be correct. I don't know if grew up in that era (I was nine), but most adults were appalled. My kindly Dad called it "crazy screaming and yelling."
@@fredkruse9444 I know what you mean... there's an old clip from the Merv Griffin Show were Phil Spektor is called a dirty longhair by an older showbiz personality... it's quite funny...
@@fredkruse9444 My mother get angry about the fans saying: "Why the public shouts excited? None of them are handsome! 😁
*_BRIAN EPSTEIN, MANAGER OF THE BEATLES_*
*_PROFESSIONAL DOG WALKER_*
*_MUSICIAN (PLAYS WASHBOARD IN NIGHTCLUB BAND)_*
Again the substitute announcer is Hal Simms, who announced WML in the 1950s to 1961.
And now...Miss Dorthlea Kilgallen!
Knowing how smart the panel is, I'm not surprised they guessed the dog walker quickly
It's an interesting historical question what The Beatles would've been if Brian Epstein hadn't discovered them and managed their career. He came into their orbit in late 1961 and started managing them in early 1962. From that point forward, it was a straight ascent upwards. He got them out from a contract with an entity which was getting them nowhere. He eventually got them to EMI records and George Martin.
Without Brian Epstein, The Beatles might have remained a popular band in parts of England and Hamburg and the world would never have heard of them. He's mostly forgotten, but he was essential.
I've got five little sisters and I still occasionally get tongue-tied and call one of them by another's name. They do it, our mother did it. John Daly slipped up and everybody's acting like he's an air-traffic controller that made two planes bump wings. Chilllllllllllaaaaax.
John, not Barry, Brian!
John gets his name right before Brian leave. Brian very quietly and politely whispered "Brian" when John called him Barry, so maybe John heard that.
Joe Postove
He should have immediately made a distinct, audible correction of his own error after Brian pointed it out, though.
+Joe Postove maybe he confused it with Barry Gordy. Another famous discoverer.
Aww! Tony Bennett just passed away three days ago. That said, he lived a long and full life.
Paul Anka was also a great compositor...
Speaking of "Beatles for Sale", if you look at the front cover of the album, the boys look really tired and worn out. As if Beatlemania was starting to take its toll.
In 1963, they toured almost non-stop, doing everything from radio shows for the BBC, to Christmas Shows in Astoria, Finsbury Park.
In 1964, they did the Paris, France shows, two weeks in February 1964 for the first American visit, followed by the recording of songs for the filming of their first motion picture, a world tour in the summer (of which Ringo missed 3/4 of), followed by the second American visit from August to September. That, and another British tour during the fall of that year.
+Vahan Nisanian Not to mention that Beatles for Sale reverted back to the Beatles having cover songs on an album again. It's a very good album, but they definitely worked way too much.
"Barry" -- God, the "grown-ups" were so dim....
At 5:47 into this video the announcer says BARRY instead of BRIAN - And Brian Epstein corrects him in a low voice with "Brian" -
Amazing! Tony Bennett is still performing. Not so much but still sounds great.
Good thing it was a short show, seeing as the panel was hot and got the first two almost instantly. If the show had gone full length, they might have resorted to asking Anka for a musical number.
I’ve done the walk from what would have been Brian’s record shop to the original Cavern entrance. Brian’s record shop is now a Forever 21
Dale Jennings -Ooh, I'm sorry to hear that.
NOoooooooooooo. Haha. Dang! So how far a walk was that, roughly, in time and distance if you can remember?
@@ChannelOutScotia 5 minutes or so
great show
So stupid to have him on first. Hard to believe anyone on that panel wouldn't know of him.
During the same year, former Beatles drummer Pete Best appeared on "I've Got a Secret" (when Garry Moore was still hosting it), as a contestant.
Vahan Nisanian I remember watching that episode. But I had read enough Beatles history by that point that when his "secret" was that he'd quit his job,it contradicted all the sources that said his departure was involuntary. I doubt we'll ever know, without time travel, whether he jumped ship or was made to walk the plank.
If you read Brian Epstein Wikipedia, posting link, he was definitly made to walk the plank. I know Brian didn't write it, but it is well written and if there is a better stroy would like to find and read it. It's the 7th section down.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Epstein
John Daly was going through a rough patch on the WML telecasts. After getting the first name of Brian Epstein incorrect. he begins to mispronounce "Greenwich" (as in Greenwich Village), but he does catch himself mid-word.
As to Bennett's cryptic warning to John to watch out and keep his job: 4 days earlier, the Soviet politburo removed Nikita Krushchev, the dictator of the Soviet Union, from 2 of his posts and replaced him summarily with a more modern despots Brehzhnev and Kosygen. So we are coming up on the 50th anniversary of that landmark event that hardly anyone remembers anymore.
soulierinvestments Also that week or close to the day the Labor Party won the election in Great Britain, with Sir Alec Douglas-Home resigning and Harold Wilson becoming Prime Minister. Bennett Cerf is referring to both events of over fifty years ago. The Soviet Union is gone, only Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr are around as is Paul Anka, Tony Bennett in his late eighties is going strong and singing with the likes of Lady Gaga, and Queen Elizabeth in about two weeks will become the longest reigning British monarch. Too bad What's My Line lives only on TH-cam.
tony was so young i really don't remember him so young but i was just born when he was on this show!
What a classic episode. Pretty sure I’d never seen it before.
John gives up too much information sometimes. When Paul Anka recuses himself, John say he was afraid that Paul might have done just that. This is a giant clue for the panel! C'mon, c'mon!
***** But the clue that Anka probably knew who he was, was an indication to the panel that it was teen oriented. That opens a big Beatle hole for them to step into, close behind them , and explore.
: I believe it was the English accent that helped the panel, more than anything. :)
Back in the days of the Beatles, at the beginning, the name of Brian Epstein was as known as Paul, John, George and Ringo. And without the fancy medium of the internet. :)
Joe Postove That's the funniest-phrased comment I've read all day.
RemmersMusic Thanks!
Not really back then they didn’t have the sources to go that deep in anyone’s connection
"When you lie down with pigs you come up smelling like garbage" -- that was Tony's big line (he said it 3 times) in the movie "The Oscar."
I don’t understand the hullabaloo about Bennett asking if Epstein regretted the Beatles. Big deal. I grew up in the era of the Beatles and I can tell you that were and still are people who don’t necessarily think the Beatles are the be all and end all of the music, or even pop music, world.
We weren’t square kids, just didn’t gravitate to their sound.
Barry Epstein!
**Ever so politely** "Brian"
Mrs. Reynolds reminds me of Betty Draper.
3:34 RE: Epstein's label. Anyone else remember that well known musical group "etc" ? Too bad G-T never managed to get John or Ringo on the panel, though I am perfectly happy with Paul.
Epstein had other acts, you know.
So, there you go, the Beatles got a great promotion.
Love John Daly and this panel ,
and Paul Anka! What a wonderful singer, song writer and actor.
The three reg panel didn’t care for rock music , wonder what they thought of Epstein??
I agreed with Bennett !
“where”
“in central park”
“where else”
EYE
They don't let Brian say anything
Brian should have been a mystery guest.
I am 66 and, of course, loved the Beatles but Brian Epstein was not that famous in 1964 in the U.S. at that time.
I think his face was not known in general public at that time thus they took the chance.
Arliene only got that cause of benent . He really is the one that brought it to light .
Surely they would have known Brian Epstein? I would have thought that even this early in the Beatles career most americans would have seen pictures of him at some point...especially Paul Anka?
+Jason Burns He was behind the scenes at this point. Especially to middle aged "grown ups" who thought of the Beatles as nothing more than the latest fad of 12 year old girls and who would be forgotten in three months. Boy were they wrong.
Lynn Turman Very true. Hard to believe that he owned a record store in Liverpool and it was a Beatles fan who asked him at the counter for a Beatles record.He had no idea who the Beatles were so then did some detective work and the rest is history. Maybe we should thank the anonymous Beatle fan who asked him?
Jason Burns I think it was a bunch of fans. They came in asking for a song by a group he'd never heard of, so being a good merchant & wanting to please his customers, he went & listened to this group with the strange name. The rest is history.
+Jason Burns I think in those days there wasn't as much exposure in the media as now. As much as I loved the Beatles and Stones, wouldn't know what their managers looked like.
Paula Snow True. But he wrote his name? But I agree with the fact that kids knew the Beatles but obviously not the manager. Come to think of it...who was the manager of the Stones back then? Andrew Loog-Oldham? Not sure. Cheers.
The panel should've been blindfolded for Brian Epstein. The Beatles had taken over the world by then and someone was bound to recognize him. Anka recognizing him gave it all away.
I was interested to find out whatever happened to the last guest, so I googled 'The G String Strugglers" BIG MISTAKE!!! LOL
THE 12 HOUR MUSIC SPECIALIST: don't leave us on tenderhooks
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when i get married i'm not inviting my father. instead i'm going to hire a brian epstein impersonator to give me away at my wedding
If you ever did find a Brian Epstein impersonator, I'd sure love his info.
Nice one Barry !!
Anyone notice the (very) slight difference in the open? Instead of the cowboy smiling, it was the man in the horses behind.
David Von Pein Watch the very end of the open from today (with Tony Bennett). At the end of the animation their is a different close.
David Von Pein You are right, David. I mis-saw(?) it. Thanks for the catch!
Tony has some seriously gorgeous eyes.
Of all the guests on this episode (challengers and guest panelist), only the second challenger does not have a known association with music ... unless the dogs she was walking started to howl.
I would have loved to see Tony at the Fairmont Hotel in SF at that time, before the album.
I was born in San Francisco.
I was born in San Francisco in August 1960, which may have been the year when John Daly was at the Fairmont Hotel over Christmas watching Tony Bennett.
Bennett was a square and hated rock and roll.
Boo! But Dorothy loved them so that's okay.
And I am a professional dog walker!