Seen this twice now and it gets more amazing each time i realize something i didn't the first time. My fav part right now is when the little baby near the end wanted picking up and just stood there with he's arm out, just like my 5 year old. Amazing speech.
Thank you Dr Susan Savage-Rumbaugh for showing our cousins, Bonohos, we all can learn the peaceful living of the Bonohos and protect our cousins with all means.
@@harmoneypeters A bonobo probably would have understood the physical proximity of the letter h and b which caused the accidentally misspell in the keyword and didn't find it funny at all.
What gets to me, is the way some mouvements appear to be so human like. When he breaks the wood sticks with the help of his foot... man that's so close to what we'd do in that very position... This is bringing tears to my eyes...
That was so cute when the baby ran up and grabbed that harmonica and looked in his mothers mouth and looked at the harmonic...😊 all babies are alike in such endearing ways...I could see my son doing that as a toddler...❤️
I watched this video after a lesson we had in Comparative Psychology yesterday. We talked about animal altruism and Bonobos were the first to be mentioned. I hope one day I'll have the chance to meet a Bonobo. This is an excellent video!
This is amazing!!!!! They can comprehend what they are doing. And they can walk up straight. and use there thumbs and scissors I know they can do a-lot more than what they show in this video.
@system geo Evolution is not a finalist process. It is not centered in becoming human. It is about surviving. Any species or traits that can make it to survive through generations prevail. And because there is not just one way of surviving, different yet similar species can prevail. Also it takes thousand and millions of years to create deep changes.
Hello, at no point did she say Lucy was from Australia, she said Lucy was an Australopithecine 3:25 The term australopithecine refers generally to any species in the related genera Australopithecus. Have a wonderful day.
@pammyoneto I guess that was a bit of an exaggeration, technically. In common usage, the term "natural habitat" refers to the notion that there is still some distinction between natural and artificial space, like there's still virgin wilderness insulated from the effects of human activity. From that perspective, keeping animals in their "natural" habitat, means keeping them somewhere relatively purified of human interaction. As an environmentalist, I have trouble imagining where such a place is.
I wish people would put more work and research to communicate with Bonobos. I mean if you've seen the video explaining that he is talking, but he just can't say the consonants. Now I know this is almost impossible, but what if we could create a language with only vowels to communicate verbally with the Bonobos? Maybe using different combination of vowles and how long to lay the vowels. Ex: ae = no / ea = yes / eaa(ea + a) = Maybe. Please let me know what you guys think of this Idea. Is it good?
Have you seen the gorilla (Coco--I think) that can speak sign language? It's amazing to be able to see what an animal, a gorilla, has to say, and the things she asks for. You comment 5 months ago, so maybe this doesn't matter much to you anymore lol, but I thought I'd tell you just in case
Oh it matters! And yes I have seen Koko. She's a beautiful and intelligent ape. I almost consider them humans. At least as far as their rights should go(I.e. NOT thrown in labs and letting their children die in the jungle/forest/Savannah).
DreableNeebal10 5:36 ff when she says "sticks" the bonobo seems to understand. Amazing. Many species have distinct calls for different threats, like prairie dogs which use hamonics we need technology to detect. Also Humpback whales, Orcas and other dolphins use sounds which serve as names and instructions for pod members when working in coordination. Hypothetically this may be relevant in bonobo study because there is no reason to suppose they all use the same sounds; different Orca pods develop their own 'language'. What does seem universal is their inflection on the scream, somehow it 'feel', to me, like an expression of pleasure rather than alarm. In human languistic terms it carries a 'phatic' rather than 'emphatic' meaning. Can anyone else detect what I'm hearing?
It must be somewhat biology, otherwise the bonobos would be writing English fluently, not just attempting lexograms. But point taken, there are obviously a lot more similarities and much more potential and than we realised.
this is amazing, I never underestimate animals, And i think its kind of ignorant to consider ourselves as the most intelligent species, cos there may be a bird that looks at us and thinks we're stupid cos we haven't learnt how to fly or w/e. Animals are only measured on OUR version of intelligence, there may be lots of other stuff that they can do (and would class as intelligent) which we can not.
What amazes me most is not the video, but the responses it evokes on the observers. What do you think we're doing when we talk about "knowledge", "consciousness" and (that's the funniest of all) "scientific community"? We, humans who are discussing these issues, are organisms just like those animals we're judging, trying to talk about things we're observing and making a sense out of it. are those scientific concepts confortable to you? Congratulations then, human observers!
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@pammyoneto And then someone asked, "If we shared a common ancestor, why did humans separate and become so different from the rest of the primates?" And the answer came: "Not every primate was given a choice in the matter." At this point, so late in the game of human deforestation and the destruction of this thing called "natural habitat", the only remaining habit is "human habitat". To understand these creatures, and advocate for them by educating humans about our similarities, is compassion.
Also, weve been so exposed to so many extremely competent and communicative animals throughout our pop culture over time such as movies, commercials, for example, that somehow this doesn't seem all that impressive :( like weve slowly been desensitized to this over time! However, when you remind yourself that this is actually real!! its quite impressive.
Amazing! I am reading a book called "Sex at Dawn", by Christopher Ryan and Cacilda Jetha, about the evolution of our sexual behavior and the Bonobos are used as examples in this book a lot. It's really so fascinating!! I strongly believe in evolution.
@@mahlithebest Well technically we didn’t evolve from them. We share a common ancestor with them and our species diverged from one another 6-7 million years ago. Both lineages have been evolving separately since then. But I know what you’re saying, it’s embarrassing how many people still deny evolution and our evolutionary connection to apes.
This is a wonderful video. Thanks for sharing and promoting this rare kind of content. I don't mean to seem too "new-age" but even as a mathematician I do believe we can learn so much about the essence of intelligence - one of the most wonderful emerging dynamics in the universe - interacting with the other most intelligent species we know. It could sound a bit crazy, but I believe we should teach them more, to let intelligent life live after us and in a million years read our books and learn from us in a more profound way. Sorry for the long crazy comment. However thanks again!❤
There's a song in this video at 11:49 called "One World Key", by "Uman". I'm very surprised to have personally recognized this obscure group in this video. But that voice and wind instrument are very distinguishable.
This is fun and educational. HOWEVER....I'm wondering if grooming one another with scissors and not the fingers/hands would have the same beneficial impact has the intimate act of grooming by hand.
Great work Dr. Rumbaugh. I have two questions for you, One what if you altered their genes genetically to integrate the fox p2 gene, Isn’t that the gene that humans have to develop speech in our vocal cords and secondly,Is it possible to trace the hair gene on humans? Because Chimps do not have facial hair or beards!! Humans have beards. Is it possible to trace the beard gene mutation in humans to see how old it is and compare that to the chips? Data comparison and genetic data date comparison. Last comparison would be cranial and brain size. Great work. Thank you
People need to accept these are animals. By trying to categorize their behavior according to human standards is wrong. They are still just being taught like any other trained animal. When they react correctly, they are rewarded with treats and praise. If they are so intelligent, imagine what they would think of humans. When the apes say "stupid humans" they are rewarded. So is that really what they think? If they believe what they are taught, then the one they are talking to is stupid. Conversely, by their teaching and positive reinforcement of "good girl/boy" "you are so smart" then they are smart and we are stupid! Remember, they are taught the meaning of words by someone with an agenda. So, why learn from us? Because learning earns them food. And, if they think we are so smart, wouldn't they strive to be like us? If the people teaching them are so convinced they are geniuses, why don't they strip off their clothes, crap in their hands and join them in the wild? Absurd, right? Lucky thing they aren't too intelligent! Otherwise they would think the one they are conversing with is a sellout to all humanity.
you never know man. One weird thing is every ancient religion told of a white haired man with a long beard emerging from the ocean on a serpent and introduced us to a few technologies like irrigation and medicine which gave us a huge leap forward. Now if you had never seen metal before, how would you likely describe a metallic craft emerging from the ocean? Snake skin could be very similar to a paneled metallic craft. We have lots of weird anomalies like that in ancient history.
For example, animal mothers protect their babies, animals mourn and get angry when they see someone dead of their kind. And animals use facial expressions, just not usually humanlike, but I can say if my dogs are sad or happy by just looking at their face, and if they see I am sad they come to me. And while I approve of meat eating for reasons that we needs the proteins in them, people are still starving in some countries, and predation is a part of nature, sapient animals must not be hunted.
In fact did you know that dolphin has bigger brain than us?It has lesser brain density, but still bigger, many animals are constrained by their body plan, for example elephants are sapient too. Sapience is not just human level intelligence, ANY being that can use introspection, logic and recognises itself in the mirror is sapient.
Where I'm trying to go with this, is that you shouldn't make it sound like humans as a whole don't have any sympathy or care for animals. But it is human nature to regard the life of a human as more important than that of an animal. That will never change. Don't group everyone together, just because YOU think that humans don't treat animals properly(because if you want to not be hypocritical, you should find the survival of all species important; not just "smart ones").
Wow, bonobos are very intelligent! However, I was rather disappointed to see how their writings were merely drawings of keys on a keyboard given to them by humans. Their "use" of fire was just a bonobo playing with a lighter as well. Still, very intelligent creatures.
Bonobos are really amazing and despite that I've read a lot 'bout them I've found some new things in this video. Unfortunately there're many differences between "paroting" in research centres and behaving in wild. They've got really great abillities in mimicing but not in creating.
I saw a video recently that showed a chimp or bonobo (forgotten which) solving a problem. There was a narrow glass jar and at the bottom some peanuts. The animal had to get the peanuts. It could not reach to the bottom of the jar. It had a bucket of water nearby. It took mouthfuls of water and spit them into the glass jar until the peanut rose to the top. That is creative problem solving.
Seen this twice now and it gets more amazing each time i realize something i didn't the first time.
My fav part right now is when the little baby near the end wanted picking up and just stood there with he's arm out, just like my 5 year old. Amazing speech.
Thank you Dr Susan Savage-Rumbaugh for showing our cousins, Bonohos, we all can learn the peaceful living of the Bonohos and protect our cousins with all means.
Bonohos lol 😂
@@harmoneypeters A bonobo probably would have understood the physical proximity of the letter h and b which caused the accidentally misspell in the keyword and didn't find it funny at all.
kanzi is totally amazing every time i see him doing things it just blows my mind !!
What gets to me, is the way some mouvements appear to be so human like. When he breaks the wood sticks with the help of his foot... man that's so close to what we'd do in that very position...
This is bringing tears to my eyes...
That was so cute when the baby ran up and grabbed that harmonica and looked in his mothers mouth and looked at the harmonic...😊 all babies are alike in such endearing ways...I could see my son doing that as a toddler...❤️
HELLO MY PSYCHOLOGY CLASS!
vote this up so when we watch it in psychology we see this.
Mindblowing! Seeing that first Bonobo walk upright sent chills down my spine. So human-like, or maybe we're just so Bonobo-like.
Thats what I thought as well.
Raccoons can walk upright too.
Yes, we are all special, even if we are all animals. Humans need to learn to appreciate and respect other species.
I watched this video after a lesson we had in Comparative Psychology yesterday. We talked about animal altruism and Bonobos were the first to be mentioned. I hope one day I'll have the chance to meet a Bonobo. This is an excellent video!
this is absolutely mind altering!! this changes everything weve ever known about who we are.
everybody gangsta until banobo starts driving golf cart
This is amazing!!!!! They can comprehend what they are doing. And they can walk up straight. and use there thumbs and scissors I know they can do a-lot more than what they show in this video.
Good to see you Dr sue , Thank you for your life long achievement 🤗 panbanisha learned a lot between 1995 and 2007👍👍👏👏
That harmonica and piano doodling's better than half the stuff on the radio today. The Bonobos should start a band!
I like Bonobos. Thank You.
One of the best TED talks, hands down.
This confirms I think just how much the vast majority of behaviours are learned and are not instinctive
Seconded, as I was watching, I thought, "I can't think of better evidence for evolution than this video right here."
@system geo evolutions takes 10000s of years
@system geo Evolution is not a finalist process. It is not centered in becoming human. It is about surviving. Any species or traits that can make it to survive through generations prevail. And because there is not just one way of surviving, different yet similar species can prevail. Also it takes thousand and millions of years to create deep changes.
Hello, at no point did she say Lucy was from Australia, she said Lucy was an Australopithecine 3:25
The term australopithecine refers generally to any species in the related genera Australopithecus.
Have a wonderful day.
Thanks a lot for this video! I didnt know how smart Bonobos are.
10:30 ff "these are the rocks Kanzi used..." Doesn't that raise the question of whether the pre-historic human tools are necessarily human?
+differous01 humans were not the first hominid to use tools...
the bonobo and humans share a same ancestor therefore their ancestor was the first to use tools
differous01 pre historic?? Maybe pre flood..
@@MezztovenShort4DannY xd
differous01 I was saying it was probably pre-flood tools not prehistoric
Clearly we have a lot more to learn from them than they from us.
@pammyoneto I guess that was a bit of an exaggeration, technically. In common usage, the term "natural habitat" refers to the notion that there is still some distinction between natural and artificial space, like there's still virgin wilderness insulated from the effects of human activity. From that perspective, keeping animals in their "natural" habitat, means keeping them somewhere relatively purified of human interaction. As an environmentalist, I have trouble imagining where such a place is.
Wow that's really interesting how intelligent Bonobos are! Wow!
Ok seriously Bonobos should not be allowed to watch "planet of the apes movies" cause new idea's will start popping into their heads.
Just don't show it to the chimps and we'll be fine :)
Ranger alpha 😀😀😀
That's hilarious, I'm trying to start a page on facebook for Panbanisha and Kanzi. Here's a link if you're interested. facebook.com/panbanisha.kanzi
right
I wish people would put more work and research to communicate with Bonobos. I mean if you've seen the video explaining that he is talking, but he just can't say the consonants. Now I know this is almost impossible, but what if we could create a language with only vowels to communicate verbally with the Bonobos? Maybe using different combination of vowles and how long to lay the vowels. Ex: ae = no / ea = yes / eaa(ea + a) = Maybe. Please let me know what you guys think of this Idea. Is it good?
Have you seen the gorilla (Coco--I think) that can speak sign language? It's amazing to be able to see what an animal, a gorilla, has to say, and the things she asks for. You comment 5 months ago, so maybe this doesn't matter much to you anymore lol, but I thought I'd tell you just in case
Oh it matters! And yes I have seen Koko. She's a beautiful and intelligent ape. I almost consider them humans. At least as far as their rights should go(I.e. NOT thrown in labs and letting their children die in the jungle/forest/Savannah).
DreableNeebal10
True. Cool, I agree, nice to hear from you
DreableNeebal10 5:36 ff when she says "sticks" the bonobo seems to understand. Amazing.
Many species have distinct calls for different threats, like prairie dogs which use hamonics we need technology to detect. Also Humpback whales, Orcas and other dolphins use sounds which serve as names and instructions for pod members when working in coordination.
Hypothetically this may be relevant in bonobo study because there is no reason to suppose they all use the same sounds; different Orca pods develop their own 'language'. What does seem universal is their inflection on the scream, somehow it 'feel', to me, like an expression of pleasure rather than alarm. In human languistic terms it carries a 'phatic' rather than 'emphatic' meaning. Can anyone else detect what I'm hearing?
Kanzi tried to teach a baby Bono my mimicking movements her instructor was speaking.
It must be somewhat biology, otherwise the bonobos would be writing English fluently, not just attempting lexograms. But point taken, there are obviously a lot more similarities and much more potential and than we realised.
She is PBS in human form
he needs an iphone !!!
this is awesome stuff !!!
this is amazing, I never underestimate animals, And i think its kind of ignorant to consider ourselves as the most intelligent species, cos there may be a bird that looks at us and thinks we're stupid cos we haven't learnt how to fly or w/e. Animals are only measured on OUR version of intelligence, there may be lots of other stuff that they can do (and would class as intelligent) which we can not.
What amazes me most is not the video, but the responses it evokes on the observers. What do you think we're doing when we talk about "knowledge", "consciousness" and (that's the funniest of all) "scientific community"? We, humans who are discussing these issues, are organisms just like those animals we're judging, trying to talk about things we're observing and making a sense out of it. are those scientific concepts confortable to you? Congratulations then, human observers!
This film is set about 10 years before the events in the final film of the original Planet of the Apes series.
amazingly extraordinary, specially the pacman part hahaha the face is priceless.
Dr. Sue and Kanzi are awesome!
RIP Panbanisha, you will be missed!
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I LOVE THE EVOLUTION UNIT SO MUCH
Such an amazing creation! I just wanna HUG em!
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@pammyoneto And then someone asked, "If we shared a common ancestor, why did humans separate and become so different from the rest of the primates?" And the answer came: "Not every primate was given a choice in the matter." At this point, so late in the game of human deforestation and the destruction of this thing called "natural habitat", the only remaining habit is "human habitat". To understand these creatures, and advocate for them by educating humans about our similarities, is compassion.
Also, weve been so exposed to so many extremely competent and communicative animals throughout our pop culture over time such as movies, commercials, for example, that somehow this doesn't seem all that impressive :( like weve slowly been desensitized to this over time! However, when you remind yourself that this is actually real!! its quite impressive.
I can imagine somewhere In the galaxy an alien is doing the same things with humans and then giving a ted talk on the behaviour of man
Astonishing! I keep thinking I'm seeing humans in bonobo suits, because their gestures are so similar to ours.
thinking about it we could end up being the parent species for all these higher apes so we had better make a bloody good example
Amazing! I am reading a book called "Sex at Dawn", by Christopher Ryan and Cacilda Jetha, about the evolution of our sexual behavior and the Bonobos are used as examples in this book a lot. It's really so fascinating!! I strongly believe in evolution.
It is interesting that the two drawings of her seem to be upside down.
Right!? I am an anthropology and psychology major... I definitely want to spend the rest of my life studying primates! LOL! We are so cool! Pahahaha!
Kay Denise Bell Follow your dream, girl!!!
It's mad how people say we didn't evolve from them. We're basically just apes with pop music and facebook.
@@mahlithebest Well technically we didn’t evolve from them. We share a common ancestor with them and our species diverged from one another 6-7 million years ago. Both lineages have been evolving separately since then. But I know what you’re saying, it’s embarrassing how many people still deny evolution and our evolutionary connection to apes.
@@mahlithebest And cultures light years ahead of the puny stupid apes
@@stephenbrand5661 IKR
This is a wonderful video. Thanks for sharing and promoting this rare kind of content.
I don't mean to seem too "new-age" but even as a mathematician I do believe we can learn so much about the essence of intelligence - one of the most wonderful emerging dynamics in the universe - interacting with the other most intelligent species we know. It could sound a bit crazy, but I believe we should teach them more, to let intelligent life live after us and in a million years read our books and learn from us in a more profound way. Sorry for the long crazy comment. However thanks again!❤
There's a song in this video at 11:49 called "One World Key", by "Uman". I'm very surprised to have personally recognized this obscure group in this video. But that voice and wind instrument are very distinguishable.
This is fun and educational. HOWEVER....I'm wondering if grooming one another with scissors and not the fingers/hands would have the same beneficial impact has the intimate act of grooming by hand.
where the hell did that come from?
Great work Dr. Rumbaugh.
I have two questions for you,
One what if you altered their genes genetically to integrate the fox p2 gene, Isn’t that the gene that humans have to develop speech in our vocal cords and secondly,Is it possible to trace the hair gene on humans? Because Chimps do not have facial hair or beards!! Humans have beards. Is it possible to trace the beard gene mutation in humans to see how old it is and compare that to the chips? Data comparison and genetic data date comparison. Last comparison would be cranial and brain size.
Great work. Thank you
This is wonderful, its like a glimpse of the past :D
I miss the old TED talks.
Its incredible to see how much bonobos actually look like us!
People need to accept these are animals. By trying to categorize their behavior according to human standards is wrong. They are still just
being taught like any other trained animal. When they react correctly, they are rewarded with treats and praise. If they are so intelligent,
imagine what they would think of humans. When the apes say "stupid humans" they are rewarded. So is that really what they think? If they
believe what they are taught, then the one they are talking to is stupid. Conversely, by their teaching and positive reinforcement of
"good girl/boy" "you are so smart" then they are smart and we are stupid! Remember, they are taught the meaning of words by someone with
an agenda. So, why learn from us? Because learning earns them food. And, if they think we are so smart, wouldn't they strive to be like us? If the people teaching them are so convinced they are geniuses, why don't they strip off their clothes, crap in their hands and join them in the wild?
Absurd, right? Lucky thing they aren't too intelligent! Otherwise they would think the one they are conversing with is a sellout to all humanity.
Humans are the same way however. Humans are taught that things get them rewards. Humans are not as different as many want to believe.
Their amazing.
Simply amazing.
@Sparkus22334 most primates use facial expression actually, the ones with hair on their faces dont.
7:55 That's absolutely terrifying!
That's a mask lol
Yeah... but this is before she reportedly had two fingers bitten off by Kanzi.
They should play more video games.
probably moved on to playing WOW this year.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Caesar... is... home...
In flesh and fur it may take a moment to tell between the two. a single glance at there bones. startling. shocking really.
Your logic is sound.
Love it, love my hairy cousins 😭!
I'm crying.
Every theory of our “specialness” has been shot down.
Beautiful!
you never know man. One weird thing is every ancient religion told of a white haired man with a long beard emerging from the ocean on a serpent and introduced us to a few technologies like irrigation and medicine which gave us a huge leap forward. Now if you had never seen metal before, how would you likely describe a metallic craft emerging from the ocean? Snake skin could be very similar to a paneled metallic craft. We have lots of weird anomalies like that in ancient history.
bonoboas are bare clever
@iod3k `The only remaining habitat is human habitat` What exactly so you mean by that?
he can play pac man? that's awesome
Anyone else want a bonobo now?
Kansi’s stone tools look more efficient
For example, animal mothers protect their babies, animals mourn and get angry when they see someone dead of their kind.
And animals use facial expressions, just not usually humanlike, but I can say if my dogs are sad or happy by just looking at their face, and if they see I am sad they come to me.
And while I approve of meat eating for reasons that we needs the proteins in them, people are still starving in some countries, and predation is a part of nature, sapient animals must not be hunted.
i was mind blown by the fact it understood the concept of pacman
I completely agree with you.
I Agree with U 100%.
It's a real shame what we're doing to these amazing animals. We're destroying their habitat and endangering their very existence.
Thank You Prof 🙏🏽
Morality < Tastiness
can’t you get mad cow disease from eating them wtf
I really think it's kind of shitty to put a bmw commercial at the end of these.
@kennebacasiskyle took the words right out of my mouth =D
Wow thats amazing!
I wish con i was allowed out even though he grew up
Fire safety? He'll burn down the forest.
In fact did you know that dolphin has bigger brain than us?It has lesser brain density, but still bigger, many animals are constrained by their body plan, for example elephants are sapient too.
Sapience is not just human level intelligence, ANY being that can use introspection, logic and recognises itself in the mirror is sapient.
dats some 2001 space Odyssey sheet
I think there might be some Shenanigans going on here
I hope this is how aliens would view humanity, wanting to share culture and help us.
Where I'm trying to go with this, is that you shouldn't make it sound like humans as a whole don't have any sympathy or care for animals. But it is human nature to regard the life of a human as more important than that of an animal. That will never change. Don't group everyone together, just because YOU think that humans don't treat animals properly(because if you want to not be hypocritical, you should find the survival of all species important; not just "smart ones").
Wow, bonobos are very intelligent!
However, I was rather disappointed to see how their writings were merely drawings of keys on a keyboard given to them by humans. Their "use" of fire was just a bonobo playing with a lighter as well. Still, very intelligent creatures.
Imagine aliens doing the same for us
It's heartbreaking to see them locked up like that. Bonobos normally have "sex breaks" several times a day. The one was begging to go outside. Sad :(
Bonobos are really amazing and despite that I've read a lot 'bout them I've found some new things in this video. Unfortunately there're many differences between "paroting" in research centres and behaving in wild. They've got really great abillities in mimicing but not in creating.
I saw a video recently that showed a chimp or bonobo (forgotten which) solving a problem. There was a narrow glass jar and at the bottom some peanuts. The animal had to get the peanuts. It could not reach to the bottom of the jar. It had a bucket of water nearby. It took mouthfuls of water and spit them into the glass jar until the peanut rose to the top. That is creative problem solving.
Bonobo playing pacman. :D
And playing pretty well
I don't care what anyone says; Mankind is not special.
I’d like to teach them drums
Amazing, we are not alone on Earth.com.. Our bonny cousins are eight year old H. sapiens equivalents, going on fifteen maybe.
17:38 Massive Attack's "Angel" soundalike