The saddest part about this episode was the look on Dr 10's face when the War Dr mentioned the "wolf girl". His need to see his Rose was so apparent and desperate that it broke my heart when i saw it.
Since this takes place inbetween season 4 and the Specials in the 10th Doctors timeline, he would’ve just lost Rose for the second time when the Day of the Doctor happens.
And now the Doctor is a bird. What a revolting development. Apparently, according to the ever so woke, nu-who, the Doctor, the first one, was a bird too; a sassy woman of color no less. IT HAS ALL BECOME SO TIRESOME!
Daniel Williamson technically she is. But it doesn’t require breaking the golden rule about crossing universes again just for the sake of it...like the LAST time they did that...
@@dereknight861 You see. When I heard David and Billie were going to be in "The Day of the Doctor" I thought Billie would appear opposite David as Rose Tyler.
"Its just a wolf" Ha... Bad wolf reference.. awesome "In this form I'm called...Bad wolf." *chills* "Are you afraid of the Big Bad Wolf Doctor?" *mega chills*
John Hurt at that point in his career was the perfect bend of strength but weariness. He perfectly portrayed a character who was still extremely powerful, but completely worn out and fed up with the war, tired of the fighting and absolutely heartsick about the collateral damage both sides inflicted on the universe. Matt Smith would have done a fine job with the speech but Hurt delivered a masterpiece
This to me explained the Doctor's attachment to Rose right from the start. An ordinary girl that seemed to have no ties to the Doctor or time or the grand scheme of things. But she did. Explains why he can't leave her behind, let her go, tries to keep her with him or any part of him at any cost. It's because of this moment. He can't remember this, but deep down he knows she's important. Nine saves her, then tracks her down, then leaves her behind and STILL ends up coming back for her. Why? Because she is the Moment. She the first and last face that Ten ever sees. He nearly self destructs when he loses her. The most important part of his past or future.
This is incredibly insightful. So Rose Tyler the Big Bad Wolf, and is the Moment. The question is, is it really only just Rose Tyler? Seems to me the Rose and the Tardis are the moment. As the Moment talks about the Tardis and how far he traveled so the Tardis wouldn't see.
@@AeschylusShepherd The Moment is simply a powerful weapon that was so advanced that it gained sentience. The "Rose" we see in the Day of the Doctor is The Moment simply only taking the form of Rose because she was a companion of the Doctor in the future (Well, the future of the War Doctor anyway). The Moment, The TARDIS, and Rose Tyler are seperate.
@@ManicFiction ah but you forget that bad wolf aka possessed by the time vortex Rose has power over all of tone and space and for a fraction of a second in the time she has it during the bad wolf episode she disassembles and reaches herself instead of walking like a mortal. Then a moment later she scattered the words bad wolf throughout time and space both their personal pasts and the future, the past to lead herself there and the future whenever and wherever there's a moment where all of reality is at risk of she doesn't warn him/help him. So who's to say she didn't insert herself into the moment when it was created. Hell it may even be why the timelords successfully made the weapon that shouldn't be allowed to exist, she assisted them in making something that could do it but also interested herself so that they couldn't use it. Personally I think it is actually bad wolf rose about to go back to 9 and deal with the dalek fleet now that she's done arranging everything which took a moment in the episode bad wolf but may have been hours or centuries of experienced time for her. Part of the reason her clothes are ragged is that she's running out of spare energy to intervene and hold herself together since a human mortal isn't supposed to be able to survive much less wield that much power.
This scene is so well directed! Especially the camera placements and movement. I haven't seen anyone commenting that before and I thought it deserverd some complimenting.
To be honest, I think having the Moment/Rose interact only with the War Doctor is a far more brilliant move than a lot of people give it credit for. To everyone else, Rose is a past companion. From the War Doctor's perspective, however, she's a FUTURE companion. This is significant as the War Doctor, by his own admission, doesn't believe he has a future. He's convinced he's going to die along with the rest of his people, and that he doesn't deserve to go on. He's very much at his lowest point here. Then along comes the Moment in the form of Rose as if to say "Chin up! You ARE going to have a future! You ARE going to travel with companions again! And you ARE going to deserve it, because I'm going to show you an alternative to genocide." To Ten and Eleven, she would have only represented the pain of the past. To the War Doctor, however, she represents the hope of the future. And I think that's a very lovely sentiment.
Neith That was when 11th thought he was going to die in lets Kill Hitler. He told 10th in the dungeon in Day of The Doctor he moved on. Rose didn't have much of an impact on 11th's life. He put her where she belongs in the past.
***** The Doctor has a lot of remorse. Rose is just one of them. 11th said to 10th. He MOVED ON. DOCTOR 10: You forgot? Four hundred years, is that all it takes? DOCTOR: I moved on.
Katarina Ristic Rose became bad wolf.... Rose could not make her eyes reflect the fires in the heart of the time vortex. The credits were only a minor mistake :)
"I hear you... ALL OF YOU.. I chose this face and form especially for you.." This means no matter how long time has passed since BadWolf Bay, the Doctor still thinks about Rose. Rose Tyler still haunts the doctor's mind.
Or the name of the device, the Moment, was chosen for a reason, maybe ironically the Moment can (just like the TARDIS - another Time Lord invention) see all existing time at once, which would explain her "confusion" >> "I chose this face and form especially for you, it's from your past ... or possibly your future, I always mix those two". So no matter how much time passed, the Moment can see it all at once, the past, the present and the future, all of the time in one single MOMENT.
@@Croftice1 The supposed reason is that the destructive power it possesses can wipe out everything in a single moment. Theory: It having sentience and a conscience can also carry the implication that misuse of the device can change the user's advantage to a detriment just as quickly. Also, the War Doctor was a regeneration before meeting Rose, and took until the end of that incarnation to encounter the Bad Wolf. There may have been something that stayed with the War Doctor, despite the timelines of his future incarnations crossing and preventing remembering everything else that happened. He may have already held affection for Rose's appearance, but didn't know why.
I think in the very moment of Rose looking inside TARDIS, they became one. She was the time itself. She saw all TARDIS can. She saw every Doctor out there, future, past and present of all timelines. She was the conciousness with power of time vortex. She was everything and nothing. She was beginning and the end. In the same time. But what really is time for raw time vortex with ability to think?
@@LokkerG Basically the doctor picked the moment as sort of a Kevorkian assistance to end Galifrey, the daleks, and himself. One does wonder what happened between the night of the doctor and the moment deciding the doctor's fate to make the time lord choose not to live after the war ended. After all the moment said it can decide who lives and who dies, as the doctor did reply he choose not to go on living, even when the moment said that would be his punishment to go on living while everyone else turned to dust.
MemoriesOfLife And the Doctor isn't gonna remember that he chose not to destroy Galifrey and that Rose helped him decide this. But the TARDIS does, and takes him straight to Rose after he regenerates.
***** I meant when he went back to Earth. He met Rose the same day, in her hometown. Could've been anywhere in England, especially since England attracts monsters regularly. Could've dropped him somewhere else that needed help, but it eventually led him back to Rose
***** In the same city. She brought him to the same city and let fate do the rest. And then they found each other. And yes, I called the TARDIS a 'she'.
I am now utterly convinced that the Moment,the Bad Wolf and Rose Tyler are all one and the same. After Rose interfaced with the Vortex,she mentioned that she "created myself," and scattered herself in the form of the "Bad Wolf" message across time and space. I assume that she also left fragments of "herself" in other forms so that she could be present at the Doctor's darkest moments,in this case,in the form of the most powerful weapon in history. Many of the eccentric mannerisms exhibited by the Moment here are strongly reminiscent of the Doctor if they were faced with a similar situation. I believe that this was deliberate on the Moment's part,to remind the Doctor of what they were and what they could be again. These actions also gave the War Incarnation pause and forced him to think, really think about what he was going to do--another hallmark of various previous Incarnations. Bad Wolf Rose is easily so powerful that, if it was of a mind to, and if it was what the Doctor truly wished, she could wipe out the whole of history, just like that. But the Moment wanted to make sure that this is what the War Incarnation really wanted,because,being a timeless, omnipresent entity,the Bad Wolf was absolutely certain that the Doctor would come around and do the right thing. Whatever changes the Doctor goes through,I firmly believe the Bad Wolf is the one constant in the Doctor's life,a steadfast reminder of the power of love to triumph over hate and fear.
Woah that's a really flawless argument... especially as Rose, in Bad Wolf form, said she could see everything, so would naturally want to give the Doctor a kindness. Such as seeing when he killed his own people and therefore providing him with a version of herself for comfort. Just like bringing Jack back to life, a gesture meant with love (not her fault he's stuck being immortal, oops!)
The Moment is a sentient weapon. It took Rose's Form and atleast some of her personality because she was personally related with the Doctor in the future (of War Doctor).
I think she doesn't necessarily have created the moment, but she definitely have at least influenced the moment's interface choice if not outright making a version of herself the interface.
Ya'know... given the end of Season 1 of the 2005 reboot, where Rose Tyler reveals herself as 'Bad Wolf', and she's able to see the whole of time and space, here's something that might be a bit trippy for Whovians...! Theory: Rose Tyler, using the power she received from the Heart of the Tardis, saw into the Time War and felt her heart break at what happened and chose to change it. She became one with the Moment and changed his timeline, as well as his future. She does this because he is the man she loves. She would give anything and everything to save him, and she does in more ways than one! I mean, who else would unlock the 'Time Lock' to let in the other twelve doctors!?
Billie Piper was excellent in the special and I have to agree with some here that it possibly was her best performance on this show. I also like it when they bring back people from the Russell T Davies run. Just because Moffat isn't too keen on doing it so it becomes all the more special when we see an "old" familiar face.
That part still makes me sad. War, trauma changes you. you feel like you have do not a right to happiness or the positive in life because you've done so much to hurt others. #restinpeaceWardoctor
I think that he was "The Doctor" more than anyone had imagined. All throughout the Time War, the War Doctor has tried numerous times to temper the Time Lords' reactions to certain events concerning the war effort. If you've listened to the audio dramas set during the time of the War Doctor and read a book called "Engines of War", you'd know that almost all of those attempts to try to get the Time Lords to be reasonable have been unsuccessful and, in fact, it only made the Time Lords to hate The Doctor more and more and made *some* Time Lords questioning the War Doctor's loyalty to his own people. To which end, he isn't on the Time Lords' side *or* the side of the Daleks. He's on the side of the innocents who get caught in the crossfire. Which is another reason why he deserves to be called "The Doctor" more than anyone. The heartless, cold and murderous man the War Doctor thinks he is wouldn't have argued with the Time Lords about the methods they're using to fight the war. In fact, he'd *agree* with whatever immoral things the Time Lords did during the Time War. And he wouldn't have cared about the people who are considered as "collateral damage" or "casualties of war" by the Time Lords because they were caught in this insane war. The Doctor was the same old good man that he's ever been. He's just too stupid and naive to realize that there's more than one way to "be a Doctor", as Clara Oswald put it. Put all this together, and you'd realize that it's more than just biology that is the reason why he's counted as one of The Doctor's incarnations.
The moment that The Moment says Bad Wolf and it's like the God complex was activated in her, just chills with how Piper performed that. Really brought back the memories of her being Bad Wolf.
What get me is that the Moment finally isn't ever used... but what if it had been? The interface takes Bad Wolf's apparence, and at the end of Series One, it's Bad Wolf that destroys the Daleks and says 'the Time Wars ends'. I've just this idea that the Moment and Bad Wolf are one and the same... Because what is Bad Wolf? The Time Vortex, locked into a human being named Rose Tyler for just a little time, just a Moment. The Bad Wolf could see all of time and space, she knew that Rose would be sent into another dimension and return for a time - she sent the messages. So wouldn't she have seen the Time Wars too? It's like, what if Bad Wolf/the Moment, the most terrible weapon ever, is the Time Vortex itself?
@@Matheus21video Meaning The Moment had quite a Moment of its own. Conscience enough to see, plan, and create herself simply to save the Doctor from himself. I believe the word is Fantastic.
Definitely think that Rose/Bad Wolf was very much present here and wasn't just a shell created by the Moment to talk to the War Doctor and show him a glimpse of the light at the end of a long, dark tunnel. Bad Wolf created herself for one reason and one reason alone - because a young human woman loved the last of the Time Lords too much to let him die. So when Rose looked into the Vortex and was able to see everything across time and space ("all that is, all that was, all that could ever be"), she saw the many lives of the Doctor, including the War Doctor and the terrible pain he was in. As Ten said later, everything Rose did as Bad Wolf "was so human". (She brought Jack back because she loved him too and didn't want him to be gone either.) Bad Wolf was ultimately guided by Rose's love for the Doctor, so it makes perfect sense that a part of her reached out to him to help him avoid the greatest tragedy of his life (letting Ten, Eleven, and Clara through the Time Lock to help the War Doctor, guiding him through this terrible trial and showing him that there was still hope and life and love in his future).
I love this. The Doctor is at the lowest point of his life. He has fought for so long and so hard and is so very, very tired and despite all that he has still failed. In his despair he has embarked on a course of action that will break him forever. At that Moment someone he never even knew existed does for him what he has done so many times before for others. They stop him, take him by the hand, and lead him out of the darkness. The Moment is The Doctor for The Doctor.
Love how this scene introduces Hurt with the long, slow fade. Beautiful shot. I think John Hurt played the War Doctor brilliantly, especially since he had only one episode to convince us he was the Doctor, and in just one scene, he does exactly that. :)
Why is Billie Piper as Rose so likeable? I do rather adore her, but I'm not even sure why. She's not overly pretty, she's just simply charming in some way I suppose...magnetic. There will never be a better companion, and David Tennant's Doctor was so good he ruined the series for me. So glad to see her back...in any form.
Mollinex Right? I mean don't get me wrong, still love DW and everything and for the sake of just what it is I'll always be a Whovian but...Tennant and Piper? (Always mentally including Jack of course, he's just... unique) That was my era. Always will be. I swear, I didn't even think of Rose as attractive in the beginning, I didn't think her ugly or anything, but she wasn't my type and I'd even make cracks about her jaw line but...at some point she smiled all cheeky like and I just thought 'Shit, when the hell did you charm me you adorable minx?' I was just as enraptured as Ten was, maybe Jack too. Other companions came and were brilliant, sure, and I am curious about the changes each new doctor brings but these two and their moments were golden for me. I'll always love Bad Wolf, I'll always love Rose.
Love how she mocks him. "No more, no more, no more... nomore". Also, damn does she look cool in her new outfit. More suiting to something that's called "Bad Wolf".
yeah, I agree with all of you, but I don't think Rose was terrible. She was one of the best for me. Right next to Donna and Sarah Jane. these three are my favorites.
I'm not saying she should be back. Maybe just for a special. Perhaps a version of rose earlier in her timeline before she was sealed away in an alternate dimension. I mean, it'd be great to see ten and rose, eleven and Amy and capaldi and osgood in a three doctor special
So glad Hurt is returning to the role for Big Finish. His performance as the War Doctor was, surprisingly, my favourite thing about The Day of the Doctor (and I say this as a massive fan of McGann's Doctor who could have easily appeared in the episode instead of Hurt). Hurt brought such gravitas and depth to the role, and I think the idea of an incarnation who gave up being the Doctor still has a lot of potential. I can't wait to hear how it's explored further.
hagamapama The two are definitely similiar. Also, can we take a moment to appreciate episodes like Waters of Mars where our title charcter begins fading on the line of being Doctor and something else?
Head cannon- Rose in the parting of the ways after seeing the doctor suffering the consequences of the doctor destroying galifrey, took the time vortex into her head and became the bad wolf. Not only did she destroy the dalek emperor, save jack and spread bad wolf across time and space, but she also helped the doctor and became his conscience, helping him change his mind by showing him the future. This makes total sense, Rose in series one saw what destroying galifrey did to the doctor, so while she had the chance wouldn't she try and change what he so regrets? She's always been his voice of reason throughout her time on the show, so wouldn't it make sense for her to be this now? I find it weird how the moment suddenly developed a conscience, surely it would have had to have come from somewhere? Granted the moment says she chose the face and form for the doctor and debates who and what she is, but this could be because she's an echo of the bad wolf entity? A splinter?
John Hurt, a British treasure. Never less than perfect in everything he appeared in. But I will always remember him for one of the great unsung classics of tv. The Storyteller.
Truth to be told, I didn't want Billie play The Doctor's companion again - it would be so many misunderstandings... But she played such a familiar character, but at the same time - completely new one! And it was brilliant!)
@@dongeorge4037 I've always thought that either she, or Rose should be a reincarnation. If they can do a nobody from Pompeii, they can do a fun companion.
This is my favorite scene of the episode and i am so glad to see it online at last :) John Hurt has an amazing voice and that dialogue at the beginning was perfect :)
Totally agreed. It's such a great key scene that really sells John Hurt not just as the Doctor, but one who has been through a LOT, and just with a really great speech, too.
The interface is hot! Well I do my best! Ahaha I just loved the moment. And the whole it's not a chair! It's the most dangerous weapon in the universe! Why can't it be both? So cheeky.
I like that she constantly changes location in the room but you never see her actually move. Great subtle detail to add to the fact she's not really there.
For a character that was only made up just before they started writing the 50th the war doctor is my favourite of them all and I'm sad he never will be in another episode (aside from big finish) but thats good enough for me because John Hurt gave one hell of an performance.
Awww, and thats why shes called the bad wolf. The moment, is the time vortex absorbed by a human consciousness. The most dangerous weapon in the universe is a human, come to blow everything away.
Cheezeblade some wibbly wobbly theorising here. Rose absorbed the time vortex to save the doctor and because of her new knowledge and power she, in a sense, became a new being she labelled Bad Wolf. The moment needing to communicate with the doctor to make this good man realise the error of his ways and save him for the horrors of being a lone survivor of a terrible war picked the form of Bad Wolf to do so.
I had an interesting thought the other day: what if Christopher Eccleston had agreed to join in on the 50th anniversary? Originally I tried to think how having the 9th Doctor would mess up the timeline (he might remember these events), so I thought further. What if Chris were The Moment instead of Rose? :o The War Doctor, thinking he'd destroyed Gallifrey, would regenerate into the very face of its destructor!
This was such a creative scene. The suspense building up. With this scene alone it makes the viewer want to watch more. And with the camera angles helps with the build up of suspense. It also builds the tension and adds to what the viewer may have already seen or known.
My headcanon is that the moment that The Moment's eyes start glowing when she says Bad Wolf, she and Bad Wolf Rose in The Parting Of The Ways merged into a Hybrid (Hardy har har standing in the ruins of gallifrey etc etc) to help the doctor save his Home. "All that is, All that was, and All that ever could be". Given the power the Bad Wolf had, its not unreasonable that she fiddled with the time lock a bit, and that she made everything read BAD WOLF in the end of Turn Left to spur the doctor and donna into action against the Daleks.
I feel like when the Moment asks why it can't be also a chair really speaks about it. It would love to be helpful in such a non-destructive way as much as the Doctor does and making the events of the Day of the Doctor made its eternity.
Puts Nine and Rose's meeting in a new perspective. Nine looks at his ears like "oh well that's a thing" when they first get to Rose's apartment. Had he not looked at his face for a long time, or had he just gotten it? Just immediately after this? I think it would make the most sense that he had hidden for a while, which is why he didn't flip out the way he did with Clara.
All of you Rose haters are absolutely ridiculous. Rose was one of the best companions. She was there for him when he needed her. Since season 1 with the ninth doctor you could see them start to fall for each other, you see their friendship start to grow and blossom. You're all obviously blind if you don't see it. Maybe you all should go to the optometrist, and have that checked out. With Martha I agree she was totally ridiculous, from the first moment she starts to like him romantically, when he told her right from the beginning that she couldn't replace ROSE. As for Amy and Clara they're alright, I like them well enough.
Just remember that the tenth doctor ended up leaving his close friend/love of his life in a parallel universe instead of travelling back in time in order to save her... (And dont use the episode "Father's day" as an argument here the doctor changed the past in "The fires of pompeii" and "The waters of mars" and as for crossing his timeline watch "The three doctors" "The five doctors" "The Two Doctors" and last but not least this exact episode "Day of the doctor") And lets not forget that he kept grieving over the fact that he lost the love of his life by kissing other women all the time...
I loved Rose in Series 1, but Series 2 seriously ruined her for me. But yeah, she was fantastic in Series 1. So I rate her highly for that series alone.
Robert Lythgoe I too love Series one... Some of the lines from the Doctor was really intelligent... And it didn't feature all kinds of stupid monsters like living body fat or a werewolf like the later RTD seasons did :) Plus the story "Dalek" was amazing too... It actually made me feel sorry for the Dalek
Robert Lythgoe Yeah i had kind of forgotten about those... Yes the Slitheen are the ones i dislike the most in the shows history... It just felt a bit too silly not to mention when they started farting...
This EP is so good. Notice on S8, there was a part where Clara gave a scary memory of the Doctor when she held the doctor's feet under the bed. The Doctor was on his younger days and it was on that same barn where he came back. Clara also mentioned something that the doctor would be back there soon or whatever, but it all came as planned. Well written Moffat.
GOD when she stops to think and the score cuts and she does the slight turn and begins in the whisper "im w-... Bad Wolf...." (eyes glow). My body shoook with chills!!! Idk something about Rose and the Bad Wolf just supersedes every other iconic companion moment for me.
Ever hear of Spock vs Q? It's a stageplay done by Leonard Nimoy and John DeLancie. It's pretty much just Spock and Q conversing and it is a delight. John Hurt and Billie Piper doing the same, playing as the War Doctor and the Moment really would have been just as great. ....if only...
I liked that they brought Billie Piper back even though it wasn't as Rose Tyler but I liked her as the Moment. Because she was my favorite companion but I also liked Amy and Rory as well.
I can't get enough of how Rose/The Moment speaks in this clip. 'Well, I do my best...." "They must have told you The Moment had a conscious....". It's breathy, almost musical, with an odd, flirtatious inflection, all on top of that delicious British accent.
When I saw this in the theaters, everyone in the audience cheered when Billie Piper showed up. We all loved and missed her so much! And that bit about being hot made it so hard to stop laughing. A good time was had by all that day.
The one problem with this scene is that the sky is blue. I'm not joking. In "Gridlock", the Doctor described Gallifrey saying that the sky was a 'burnt orange' and in "The Sound of Drums", there was footage of Gallifrey, the sky being shown orange. However, in this scene in "Day of the Doctor", the sky is blue. Can someone please explain to me why they broke continuity?
StarRider88 In The Five Doctors, the sky is blue despite them being on Gallifrey. It could be that the sky is blue on some parts of Gallifrey but not others. How that would work is beyond me though.
Truett Edgell Well, that is probably because the official description of Gallifrey wasn't established yet. Kind of like how before Eccelston, regeneration wasn't orange-yellow energy being shot out of your limbs and head.
Actually, the description of Gallifrey WAS established before the Five Doctors. In the story called the Sensorites, Susan (the Doctor's Granddaughter and the first companion) claims that Gallifrey has a burnt orange sky and silver leaved trees. So, point to Old Who over NuWho for establishing it first. Also, the fact that all the regenerations now look exactly the same bugs me. They all used to be different for each Doctor and now they just suck.
Truett Edgell ...Oh right. I remember that. Forgot about that. Anyway, the reason they all looked different is because from what I heard, they were trying to find a good way to portray regeneration and then settled on the current regeneration style once technology was good enough. Also, not all regenerations look the same. Look at The Master's. His was some sort of rainbow.
StarRider88 maybe because he is not on Gallifrey? The Moment could destroy Gallifrey out of distance. That would also explain why not a lot of Daleks attacks him during his Walk through the desert.
"You were the doctor when it was impossible to be !" I must say I really happy about John Hurt he was a terrific Doctor. I'm even glad that Christopher refused.
Best moment ever xD. I would know how awkward it would be to be the War Doctor and say that without even knowing the interface was the representation of Bad Wolf instead of the moment itself xD.
The reason I love this is cause out of all the companions, out off all of the people The Doctor knew, 'The Moment' choosed 'Rose Tyler, Bad Wolf' this shows Rose is truly on if the most important the companion The Doctor will and have, or SO SAYS MOFFAT
Warrior: Don't sit on that! Bad wolf: Why not? Warrior: Because it's not a chair it's a most dangerous weapon in the univerce! Bad wolf: Why cant it be both? good thinking must I say...
I really want Bad Wolf to be a continuous thing ... I hope they never forget about it or drop it Its the most powerful and significant thing with so much potential
I was thinking about it earlier....Itd be neat, with all the fallout of recent....recentness....and the retconing the producers are trying to do....if they had a mysterious force stalking The Doctor. Warping things in ways they shouldnt. Messing with him somehow. Maybe constantly dropping him into situations of constantly having to think quick and destroy a powerful enemy force, while he is in some sort of neutral funk where good or bad if you're involved in starting shit none of yall are going to like it and everyone is getting punished (ala 'would you like me to repeat the question' but maybe not so bloody. Something along the lines of 'I was nice....too nice. Coddled too much. If you allow this crap to happen you're culpable too' with a few 'no one could see this coming' heart stringy arcs sprinkled in). Then at the culmination of the arc, the whole all seems lost bit sort of like BadWolfs introduction, possibly flashes of a blond lady in the corner of his eye in a crowded battle, or blurry images while semi-concise, he tries to get better looks and such. Then at some point BadWolf appears in a freezing of time. Insert some dialog along the lines of 'I always take you where you need to go. You are my doctor, and I want you safe' ringing to BadWolf being an expression of the TARDIS personality asserted through Rose's form, a melding of the two imprinted among the time stream. Throw in some suggestive editing like guiding Clara near The Doctor subtly here and there. Make reference to the Doctor-Donna. Influencing the Oods songs. No idea how to wrap it all up or link it to the next arc, but yeah..... IDK, Im no writer, just get headaches with pictures sometimes.... 🤣
Just thought of something funny, when he's examining the box he says "why can't there just be a big red button?" In the Zygon Inversion when he makes two replicas of it there are two big red buttons each!
With what “The End of Time” revealed to us, it’s interesting to think that using The Moment is just as much about stopping the Time Lords as it is about stopping the Daleks
"The interface is hot." "Well, I do my best!" Great exchange.
"Oh.. look at you... Stuck between a girl and a box, story of your life" now that was the best exchange. well between a Bad Wolf and a War Doctor....
I just now realized what that really meant.
And then she rubs herself xD
@Richard Zandburg I still ain't bothered.
13th Evergreen i absolutely Lost it when she said that. Funny as hell.
"Why is there never a big red button?"
He's still the Doctor
Am I the only one who thought that was a reference to the Christmas Invasion?
And then it gave him exactly that.
"I hear you, all of you. Rattling around in that dusty old head of yours."
@@Star_Dust47 that a reference of the whole serie of a lot of others
"...So if I ever see a great big threatening button that should never ever ever be pressed, then I just wanna do THIS!" (hits button)
"The interface is hot!"
"Well I do my best."
Priceless witty lines all through this scene. But, that's true of the whole show.
It also makes a great final clue as to who she is before The Doctor finally realizes
And she is, too. Well, she presses my buttons.
I love the warmth and depth of her voice. 😍
And if you watch closely she scoots her skirt up just a little bit when she says it.
And it still took him a few seconds to realize what she said... shows how overwhelmed he's become over the course of the war.
The saddest part about this episode was the look on Dr 10's face when the War Dr mentioned the "wolf girl". His need to see his Rose was so apparent and desperate that it broke my heart when i saw it.
wytch of the syn he said "bad wolf girl." Then ten responds "sorry, did you just say bad wolf?"
Since this takes place inbetween season 4 and the Specials in the 10th Doctors timeline, he would’ve just lost Rose for the second time when the Day of the Doctor happens.
@@jaycorbin6145 I think this happens JUST before The End of Time because 10 mentions Liz I when he talks to the Ood
Sadder still when Eleven didn't react. The one who Forgets, I suppose. But still.
@@samanthazellers4620 Yes.
Stuck between a girl and a box...story of your life, Doctor. SO TRUE
duh
Ha
I wish. 😜
And now the Doctor is a bird. What a revolting development. Apparently, according to the ever so woke, nu-who, the Doctor, the first one, was a bird too; a sassy woman of color no less. IT HAS ALL BECOME SO TIRESOME!
@@jdbarr769 She's not the first doctor is she? She's just a doctor, at some point.
"The interface is hot!"
"Well, I do my best." :D
Isn't she?
She definitely gets some of that ego from being associated with Ten
JadeEyes1 XD
The Doctor should have caught on about what she was, right when he heard her say that.
@@TheNoiseySpectator
He was too engrossed with her box.
" It's not a chair ! It's the most dangerous weapon in the universe ! " Can't it be both ? " - PRICELESS. Billie Tyler was great as The Moment.
Daniel Appleton The Boondocks would agree if you know what episode I’m talking about.
Jacky Chan wants to know your address.
@@dani7262 Rose Piper?
@@dani7262 I know, I was just making a pun of getting the name convulated.
at that moment... it was both
Billie Piper really seems to be having fun with this.
I agree. I really thought Billie would play Rose again in the 50th anniversary special.
Daniel Williamson technically she is. But it doesn’t require breaking the golden rule about crossing universes again just for the sake of it...like the LAST time they did that...
She is better as the conscience of The Moment. And like the bomb itself a lot hotter
@@dereknight861 You see. When I heard David and Billie were going to be in "The Day of the Doctor" I thought Billie would appear opposite David as Rose Tyler.
Well I for one am not amused 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Its just a wolf"
Ha... Bad wolf reference.. awesome
"In this form I'm called...Bad wolf."
*chills*
"Are you afraid of the Big Bad Wolf Doctor?"
*mega chills*
why the chills?
because its a great reference to the ninth doctor.
Am I the only one to find it a tad hot when she does that?
Same
I do love that even The Moment gets chills when she mentions Bad Wolf
Matt Smith was absolutely right to suggest giving that speech to John Hurt, he delivered it brilliantly.
What speech?
@@hyperbiscuit2284 The "no more" speech
@@hagamapama True
John Hurt at that point in his career was the perfect bend of strength but weariness. He perfectly portrayed a character who was still extremely powerful, but completely worn out and fed up with the war, tired of the fighting and absolutely heartsick about the collateral damage both sides inflicted on the universe. Matt Smith would have done a fine job with the speech but Hurt delivered a masterpiece
@@hagamapama Which is why I liked John in V for vendetta.
This to me explained the Doctor's attachment to Rose right from the start. An ordinary girl that seemed to have no ties to the Doctor or time or the grand scheme of things. But she did. Explains why he can't leave her behind, let her go, tries to keep her with him or any part of him at any cost. It's because of this moment. He can't remember this, but deep down he knows she's important. Nine saves her, then tracks her down, then leaves her behind and STILL ends up coming back for her. Why? Because she is the Moment. She the first and last face that Ten ever sees. He nearly self destructs when he loses her. The most important part of his past or future.
yes! in turn left we see exactly what happens if nobody (i.e. donna) is there to stop him, he succeeds in self-destructing!
This is incredibly insightful. So Rose Tyler the Big Bad Wolf, and is the Moment. The question is, is it really only just Rose Tyler? Seems to me the Rose and the Tardis are the moment. As the Moment talks about the Tardis and how far he traveled so the Tardis wouldn't see.
@@AeschylusShepherd The Moment is simply a powerful weapon that was so advanced that it gained sentience. The "Rose" we see in the Day of the Doctor is The Moment simply only taking the form of Rose because she was a companion of the Doctor in the future (Well, the future of the War Doctor anyway). The Moment, The TARDIS, and Rose Tyler are seperate.
@@ManicFiction ah but you forget that bad wolf aka possessed by the time vortex Rose has power over all of tone and space and for a fraction of a second in the time she has it during the bad wolf episode she disassembles and reaches herself instead of walking like a mortal. Then a moment later she scattered the words bad wolf throughout time and space both their personal pasts and the future, the past to lead herself there and the future whenever and wherever there's a moment where all of reality is at risk of she doesn't warn him/help him. So who's to say she didn't insert herself into the moment when it was created. Hell it may even be why the timelords successfully made the weapon that shouldn't be allowed to exist, she assisted them in making something that could do it but also interested herself so that they couldn't use it. Personally I think it is actually bad wolf rose about to go back to 9 and deal with the dalek fleet now that she's done arranging everything which took a moment in the episode bad wolf but may have been hours or centuries of experienced time for her. Part of the reason her clothes are ragged is that she's running out of spare energy to intervene and hold herself together since a human mortal isn't supposed to be able to survive much less wield that much power.
@@donanthebarbarian5177You blew my mind with this theory. I hadn’t even considered that.
This scene is so well directed! Especially the camera placements and movement.
I haven't seen anyone commenting that before and I thought it deserverd some complimenting.
Nice one. We agree!
Don't know why but your profile pic makes me think your being sarcastic.. Lol
Im so happy that rose is back!
I love the quality, so 2016 XD
Yup
To be honest, I think having the Moment/Rose interact only with the War Doctor is a far more brilliant move than a lot of people give it credit for.
To everyone else, Rose is a past companion. From the War Doctor's perspective, however, she's a FUTURE companion. This is significant as the War Doctor, by his own admission, doesn't believe he has a future. He's convinced he's going to die along with the rest of his people, and that he doesn't deserve to go on. He's very much at his lowest point here. Then along comes the Moment in the form of Rose as if to say "Chin up! You ARE going to have a future! You ARE going to travel with companions again! And you ARE going to deserve it, because I'm going to show you an alternative to genocide."
To Ten and Eleven, she would have only represented the pain of the past. To the War Doctor, however, she represents the hope of the future. And I think that's a very lovely sentiment.
She only represented the pain of the past more to 10th. 11th had moved on so his reaction to The War Doctor's revelation wasn't as shocking.
Einez Crespo Naa, there was still guilt there for 11... remember when he was dying and he kept getting shown former companions?
Neith That was when 11th thought he was going to die in lets Kill Hitler. He told 10th in the dungeon in Day of The Doctor he moved on. Rose didn't have much of an impact on 11th's life. He put her where she belongs in the past.
Einez Crespo
Not truth. in "let's kill hitler" the elevent doctor stated he still felt remorse for Rose Tyler. Plus 11 is ten...
***** The Doctor has a lot of remorse. Rose is just one of them. 11th said to 10th. He MOVED ON.
DOCTOR 10: You forgot? Four hundred years, is that all it takes?
DOCTOR: I moved on.
I just giggle at the Moment going "It's from your past! ...possibly your future, I always get those two mixed up..."
Well, remember, bad wolf. She was sprinkled all over space and time. That very well could have confused the hell out of the moment.
+Richard Smith she is not Bad Wolf. She just looks like Bad Wolf
DartLuke I know that... That's why I called the moment, the moment. The image she took was bad wolf though, not rose tyler.
+Richard Smith Well,interesting fact,but in the ending credits of 'The Day of The Doctor' Billie Piper is credited as Rose,not Bad Wolf.
Katarina Ristic Rose became bad wolf.... Rose could not make her eyes reflect the fires in the heart of the time vortex. The credits were only a minor mistake :)
"Didn't you want her to see it?"
"Want who to see?"
"The TARDIS..."
The TARDIS is easily my favourite Doctor Who character.
+Travalon please BBC, bring "sexy" back
The only character that has both stayed and remained unchanged since 1963.
Jacob Wood The personality has remained unchanged.
And the only character that Moffat can't kill off. He certainly tried though.
Its reaction to 13. GET OUT! GET OUT! GET OUT!!!
"I hear you... ALL OF YOU.. I chose this face and form especially for you.." This means no matter how long time has passed since BadWolf Bay, the Doctor still thinks about Rose. Rose Tyler still haunts the doctor's mind.
Or the name of the device, the Moment, was chosen for a reason, maybe ironically the Moment can (just like the TARDIS - another Time Lord invention) see all existing time at once, which would explain her "confusion" >> "I chose this face and form especially for you, it's from your past ... or possibly your future, I always mix those two". So no matter how much time passed, the Moment can see it all at once, the past, the present and the future, all of the time in one single MOMENT.
@@Croftice1 The supposed reason is that the destructive power it possesses can wipe out everything in a single moment. Theory: It having sentience and a conscience can also carry the implication that misuse of the device can change the user's advantage to a detriment just as quickly. Also, the War Doctor was a regeneration before meeting Rose, and took until the end of that incarnation to encounter the Bad Wolf. There may have been something that stayed with the War Doctor, despite the timelines of his future incarnations crossing and preventing remembering everything else that happened. He may have already held affection for Rose's appearance, but didn't know why.
I think in the very moment of Rose looking inside TARDIS, they became one. She was the time itself. She saw all TARDIS can. She saw every Doctor out there, future, past and present of all timelines. She was the conciousness with power of time vortex. She was everything and nothing. She was beginning and the end. In the same time. But what really is time for raw time vortex with ability to think?
@@LokkerG Basically the doctor picked the moment as sort of a Kevorkian assistance to end Galifrey, the daleks, and himself. One does wonder what happened between the night of the doctor and the moment deciding the doctor's fate to make the time lord choose not to live after the war ended. After all the moment said it can decide who lives and who dies, as the doctor did reply he choose not to go on living, even when the moment said that would be his punishment to go on living while everyone else turned to dust.
It also means that Rose/The Bad Wolf has been inside the Doctor's head for a very very long time, which explains a lot ...
"Stuck between a girl and a box, story of your life, eh, doctor?"
A truer sentiment have never been said
Billie Piper was amazing in the Day of the Doctor. Her portrayal as the moment with flashes of Rose was sheer brilliance.
absolutely!!
R.I.P. John Hurt :(
No more.
That's why I went looking for this clip.
R.I.P. John Hurt
He was a great actor.
same here R.I.P. John Hurt
Immortal, Doctor. R.I.P
It's sad he's gone. It looks like we won't see The War Doctor again in a future season. I think The War Doctor's arc is very much complete.
@@danielwilliamson6180 I dunno. You could still see a younger War Doctor played by another actor
Her eyes are mesmerizing. They almost don't look human.
They're not. The moment picked the form of the Bad Wolf entity = Rose + TARDIS.
i wish all 3 doc were able to see Rose for a moment before she disappeared
The Bad Wolf is so much fun to watch, I hope they bring her back again somehow.
Shes scattered across time and space and is a fixed point of the doctors future, indefinitely.
She will be back.
they could literally put her in any episode and it would canonically make sense, nice if it happened though
@@UKSponge360 they should edit billy into the background of every episode just to fuck with people
But the Moment really is Rose as Bad Wolf. She could do anything remember, who's to say that she didn't return to make the Doctor save his people.
I usually don't do this but...
HEADCANON ACCEPTED
MemoriesOfLife And the Doctor isn't gonna remember that he chose not to destroy Galifrey and that Rose helped him decide this. But the TARDIS does, and takes him straight to Rose after he regenerates.
***** I meant when he went back to Earth. He met Rose the same day, in her hometown. Could've been anywhere in England, especially since England attracts monsters regularly. Could've dropped him somewhere else that needed help, but it eventually led him back to Rose
***** In the same city. She brought him to the same city and let fate do the rest. And then they found each other.
And yes, I called the TARDIS a 'she'.
Chiko was here The Doctor met Rose before Bad Wolf/The Moment helped War Doctor (with 10 and 11) save Gallifrey.
I am now utterly convinced that the Moment,the Bad Wolf and Rose Tyler are all one and the same. After Rose interfaced with the Vortex,she mentioned that she "created myself," and scattered herself in the form of the "Bad Wolf" message across time and space. I assume that she also left fragments of "herself" in other forms so that she could be present at the Doctor's darkest moments,in this case,in the form of the most powerful weapon in history.
Many of the eccentric mannerisms exhibited by the Moment here are strongly reminiscent of the Doctor if they were faced with a similar situation. I believe that this was deliberate on the Moment's part,to remind the Doctor of what they were and what they could be again. These actions also gave the War Incarnation pause and forced him to think, really think about what he was going to do--another hallmark of various previous Incarnations.
Bad Wolf Rose is easily so powerful that, if it was of a mind to, and if it was what the Doctor truly wished, she could wipe out the whole of history, just like that. But the Moment wanted to make sure that this is what the War Incarnation really wanted,because,being a timeless, omnipresent entity,the Bad Wolf was absolutely certain that the Doctor would come around and do the right thing. Whatever changes the Doctor goes through,I firmly believe the Bad Wolf is the one constant in the Doctor's life,a steadfast reminder of the power of love to triumph over hate and fear.
Woah that's a really flawless argument... especially as Rose, in Bad Wolf form, said she could see everything, so would naturally want to give the Doctor a kindness. Such as seeing when he killed his own people and therefore providing him with a version of herself for comfort. Just like bringing Jack back to life, a gesture meant with love (not her fault he's stuck being immortal, oops!)
The Moment is a sentient weapon. It took Rose's Form and atleast some of her personality because she was personally related with the Doctor in the future (of War Doctor).
In other words, Bad Wolf Rose is a multiversal threat on the scale of Trensalor that nobody realizes is a threat because she deals with herself.
I think she doesn't necessarily have created the moment, but she definitely have at least influenced the moment's interface choice if not outright making a version of herself the interface.
Ya'know... given the end of Season 1 of the 2005 reboot, where Rose Tyler reveals herself as 'Bad Wolf', and she's able to see the whole of time and space, here's something that might be a bit trippy for Whovians...!
Theory: Rose Tyler, using the power she received from the Heart of the Tardis, saw into the Time War and felt her heart break at what happened and chose to change it. She became one with the Moment and changed his timeline, as well as his future. She does this because he is the man she loves. She would give anything and everything to save him, and she does in more ways than one!
I mean, who else would unlock the 'Time Lock' to let in the other twelve doctors!?
Good theory! Yeah, that could be true!
BEST. THEORY. EVER! XD
Yeah, that is a pretty common theory. Rose as bad wolf inserted herself as the interface to convince the doctor not to go through with it.
@@rich1051414 maybe that's why when Rose was merged with Bad Wolf she said "The Time War Ends"
"I create myself"
Billie Piper was excellent in the special and I have to agree with some here that it possibly was her best performance on this show.
I also like it when they bring back people from the Russell T Davies run. Just because Moffat isn't too keen on doing it so it becomes all the more special when we see an "old" familiar face.
Billie's best performance on the show was Fathers Day. The Moment was better than Rose, though.
"I've lost the right to be the Doctor" And that's when the War Doctor won my sympathy.
That part still makes me sad. War, trauma changes you. you feel like you have do not a right to happiness or the positive in life because you've done so much to hurt others. #restinpeaceWardoctor
I think that he was "The Doctor" more than anyone had imagined.
All throughout the Time War, the War Doctor has tried numerous times to temper the Time Lords' reactions to certain events concerning the war effort.
If you've listened to the audio dramas set during the time of the War Doctor and read a book called "Engines of War", you'd know that almost all of those attempts to try to get the Time Lords to be reasonable have been unsuccessful and, in fact, it only made the Time Lords to hate The Doctor more and more and made *some* Time Lords questioning the War Doctor's loyalty to his own people.
To which end, he isn't on the Time Lords' side *or* the side of the Daleks. He's on the side of the innocents who get caught in the crossfire. Which is another reason why he deserves to be called "The Doctor" more than anyone.
The heartless, cold and murderous man the War Doctor thinks he is wouldn't have argued with the Time Lords about the methods they're using to fight the war.
In fact, he'd *agree* with whatever immoral things the Time Lords did during the Time War. And he wouldn't have cared about the people who are considered as "collateral damage" or "casualties of war" by the Time Lords because they were caught in this insane war.
The Doctor was the same old good man that he's ever been. He's just too stupid and naive to realize that there's more than one way to "be a Doctor", as Clara Oswald put it.
Put all this together, and you'd realize that it's more than just biology that is the reason why he's counted as one of The Doctor's incarnations.
@@DoctorWhoKage”you were The Doctor on the day it wasn’t possible to get it right!”
Bad Wolf.
One of my favorite concepts ever introduced on Doctor Who.
The moment that The Moment says Bad Wolf and it's like the God complex was activated in her, just chills with how Piper performed that. Really brought back the memories of her being Bad Wolf.
What get me is that the Moment finally isn't ever used... but what if it had been? The interface takes Bad Wolf's apparence, and at the end of Series One, it's Bad Wolf that destroys the Daleks and says 'the Time Wars ends'.
I've just this idea that the Moment and Bad Wolf are one and the same... Because what is Bad Wolf? The Time Vortex, locked into a human being named Rose Tyler for just a little time, just a Moment.
The Bad Wolf could see all of time and space, she knew that Rose would be sent into another dimension and return for a time - she sent the messages. So wouldn't she have seen the Time Wars too?
It's like, what if Bad Wolf/the Moment, the most terrible weapon ever, is the Time Vortex itself?
Rose Tyler Is the Bad Wolf.
@@Matheus21video She created herself.
@@sitnspin1819 I Know. But still...
@@Matheus21video Meaning The Moment had quite a Moment of its own. Conscience enough to see, plan, and create herself simply to save the Doctor from himself. I believe the word is Fantastic.
@@sitnspin1819 havent seen that word in a while, off i go to rewatch first season
Definitely think that Rose/Bad Wolf was very much present here and wasn't just a shell created by the Moment to talk to the War Doctor and show him a glimpse of the light at the end of a long, dark tunnel. Bad Wolf created herself for one reason and one reason alone - because a young human woman loved the last of the Time Lords too much to let him die. So when Rose looked into the Vortex and was able to see everything across time and space ("all that is, all that was, all that could ever be"), she saw the many lives of the Doctor, including the War Doctor and the terrible pain he was in. As Ten said later, everything Rose did as Bad Wolf "was so human". (She brought Jack back because she loved him too and didn't want him to be gone either.) Bad Wolf was ultimately guided by Rose's love for the Doctor, so it makes perfect sense that a part of her reached out to him to help him avoid the greatest tragedy of his life (letting Ten, Eleven, and Clara through the Time Lock to help the War Doctor, guiding him through this terrible trial and showing him that there was still hope and life and love in his future).
love the bit where moment/rose says are you afraid of the big bad wolf doctor
+rachael martin
She's not Rose. She's the Moment taking the form of Rose. Well, actually, Bad Wolf.
+Ionut Maris well yeah but I love how they made the moment rose\bad wolf
rachael martin
Me too.
+rachael martin That wasn't Rose, that was the Moment.
kaizoisevil yes i know that but they made the moment look like rose and everyone knows what i meant
Billie Piper has never been more hot than in this scene, imo
+CMW Chris Well, she does her best.
:P
You haven't seen her in The Secret Diary of a Call Girl then have you? XD
I know right?!
yeah mate secret diary of a call girl...oh nom nom nom
yesss
I love this. The Doctor is at the lowest point of his life. He has fought for so long and so hard and is so very, very tired and despite all that he has still failed. In his despair he has embarked on a course of action that will break him forever. At that Moment someone he never even knew existed does for him what he has done so many times before for others.
They stop him, take him by the hand, and lead him out of the darkness.
The Moment is The Doctor for The Doctor.
Love how this scene introduces Hurt with the long, slow fade. Beautiful shot. I think John Hurt played the War Doctor brilliantly, especially since he had only one episode to convince us he was the Doctor, and in just one scene, he does exactly that. :)
Yea, that's the doctor all right.
Rest In Peace Sir John Hurt. I had a great day but now to to sleep sad after hearing of your passing. We will always remember and love you Doctor.
BILLLLLIE STOP BEING SO AMAZING AAAAAAA
I looove Billie as the Moment. Her performance is so great and she looks like she’s having a blast.
Why is Billie Piper as Rose so likeable? I do rather adore her, but I'm not even sure why. She's not overly pretty, she's just simply charming in some way I suppose...magnetic. There will never be a better companion, and David Tennant's Doctor was so good he ruined the series for me. So glad to see her back...in any form.
I agree with everything you said! I love the other doctors and companions but never like I loved Rose and the 10th Doctor.
Mollinex Right? I mean don't get me wrong, still love DW and everything and for the sake of just what it is I'll always be a Whovian but...Tennant and Piper? (Always mentally including Jack of course, he's just... unique) That was my era. Always will be. I swear, I didn't even think of Rose as attractive in the beginning, I didn't think her ugly or anything, but she wasn't my type and I'd even make cracks about her jaw line but...at some point she smiled all cheeky like and I just thought 'Shit, when the hell did you charm me you adorable minx?' I was just as enraptured as Ten was, maybe Jack too. Other companions came and were brilliant, sure, and I am curious about the changes each new doctor brings but these two and their moments were golden for me. I'll always love Bad Wolf, I'll always love Rose.
***** She is gorgeous.
+DormLifeOfficial you're a doctor who fan? I suddenly like you
***** It`ll come to you (that is also kind of a quote from Blink)
Love how she mocks him. "No more, no more, no more... nomore". Also, damn does she look cool in her new outfit. More suiting to something that's called "Bad Wolf".
Rose always will be the best companion..
Nah... Ace wins that one hands down.
I don't even understand why people even remotely like her. She was TERRIBLE. Donna will always be the best.
No.
I agree :)
yeah, I agree with all of you, but I don't think Rose was terrible. She was one of the best for me. Right next to Donna and Sarah Jane. these three are my favorites.
I still _really_ want Rose to come back as a companion. A lot. Like. I don't think I'll ever be able to *not* want that.
Hope in vain.Never gonna happen.
Ionut Maris Thank you, Satan.
Sarah Jane returned. So will rose.
Ricardo Onzalez I hope it works out better than Sarah Jane's return. One of her calls back was for the cheesiest episode ever.
I'm not saying she should be back. Maybe just for a special. Perhaps a version of rose earlier in her timeline before she was sealed away in an alternate dimension. I mean, it'd be great to see ten and rose, eleven and Amy and capaldi and osgood in a three doctor special
John Hurt was a fabulous actor and is very much missed R.I.P. John Hurt!! Now seeing Billie Piper in this was a awesome! She is a fabulous actress!!
So glad Hurt is returning to the role for Big Finish. His performance as the War Doctor was, surprisingly, my favourite thing about The Day of the Doctor (and I say this as a massive fan of McGann's Doctor who could have easily appeared in the episode instead of Hurt). Hurt brought such gravitas and depth to the role, and I think the idea of an incarnation who gave up being the Doctor still has a lot of potential. I can't wait to hear how it's explored further.
Agreed on all of that
And I still wonder if some farflung consequence of being the War Doctor is what creates the Valeyard.
hagamapama The two are definitely similiar. Also, can we take a moment to appreciate episodes like Waters of Mars where our title charcter begins fading on the line of being Doctor and something else?
Head cannon- Rose in the parting of the ways after seeing the doctor suffering the consequences of the doctor destroying galifrey, took the time vortex into her head and became the bad wolf. Not only did she destroy the dalek emperor, save jack and spread bad wolf across time and space, but she also helped the doctor and became his conscience, helping him change his mind by showing him the future.
This makes total sense, Rose in series one saw what destroying galifrey did to the doctor, so while she had the chance wouldn't she try and change what he so regrets? She's always been his voice of reason throughout her time on the show, so wouldn't it make sense for her to be this now? I find it weird how the moment suddenly developed a conscience, surely it would have had to have come from somewhere? Granted the moment says she chose the face and form for the doctor and debates who and what she is, but this could be because she's an echo of the bad wolf entity? A splinter?
John Hurt, a British treasure. Never less than perfect in everything he appeared in.
But I will always remember him for one of the great unsung classics of tv. The Storyteller.
Loved him in Henry V.
Truth to be told, I didn't want Billie play The Doctor's companion again - it would be so many misunderstandings... But she played such a familiar character, but at the same time - completely new one! And it was brilliant!)
Imagine if she were The Doctor
Yes, she should have become the 9th Doctor's regeneration, having looked into the soul of the Tartus.
@@dongeorge4037 I've always thought that either she, or Rose should be a reincarnation. If they can do a nobody from Pompeii, they can do a fun companion.
This is my favorite scene of the episode and i am so glad to see it online at last :) John Hurt has an amazing voice and that dialogue at the beginning was perfect :)
Totally agreed. It's such a great key scene that really sells John Hurt not just as the Doctor, but one who has been through a LOT, and just with a really great speech, too.
The interface is hot! Well I do my best! Ahaha I just loved the moment. And the whole it's not a chair! It's the most dangerous weapon in the universe! Why can't it be both? So cheeky.
What a truly gifted and talented actress Billie Piper is.She really was the icing on the cake for the this show and very much missed.
That's not a very good idea with your subscribe button. Everybody will forget… wait... what was I typing again?
+milocow44 I didn't see a subscribe button.
Danver Braganza Now that I think about it, I don't remember a subscribe button either. Hmm... what was I thinking that day?
What?
I can't...
Why can't I?
no that scene was spooky :(
That moment when your nigh-omniscient weapon of mass destruction mocks you...
Man I just love Rose Tyler/Billie Piper
I like that she constantly changes location in the room but you never see her actually move. Great subtle detail to add to the fact she's not really there.
"The day of the Doctor" is one of the most beautiful things I've seen in my WHOLE life. Thank you. Thank you for this amazing trip in time and space.
For a character that was only made up just before they started writing the 50th the war doctor is my favourite of them all and I'm sad he never will be in another episode (aside from big finish) but thats good enough for me because John Hurt gave one hell of an performance.
3:02 The moment box makes the same ticking noise as the clockwork droids back in series 2 "The Girl In the Fireplace", cool little easter egg.
I love that sound
One man's stock soundboard is another man's easter egg I suppose.
This was back in the day, when Doctor Who was a brilliant show, that had fantastic writing and high quality actors in it. Those days are gone.
Amen to that.
Awww, and thats why shes called the bad wolf. The moment, is the time vortex absorbed by a human consciousness. The most dangerous weapon in the universe is a human, come to blow everything away.
No, it just picked her face.
Cheezeblade some wibbly wobbly theorising here. Rose absorbed the time vortex to save the doctor and because of her new knowledge and power she, in a sense, became a new being she labelled Bad Wolf.
The moment needing to communicate with the doctor to make this good man realise the error of his ways and save him for the horrors of being a lone survivor of a terrible war picked the form of Bad Wolf to do so.
@@MANJYOMETHUNDER111 "can't it be both?"
honestly, the moment was the best character introduced in series seven.
+Joseph Williams
This isn't Series 7.
Ionut Maris true, but it is a series 7 special.
+Ionut Maris It's a series 7 special; so for all intents and purposes, yes it is.
Technically no...its not series 7
War Doctor, the Impossible Girl, Kate Stewart and Osgood... Lol
I had an interesting thought the other day: what if Christopher Eccleston had agreed to join in on the 50th anniversary? Originally I tried to think how having the 9th Doctor would mess up the timeline (he might remember these events), so I thought further. What if Chris were The Moment instead of Rose? :o The War Doctor, thinking he'd destroyed Gallifrey, would regenerate into the very face of its destructor!
I love the huge growth of Billie Piper’s performance. Its more lively and playful and it gets me eager to see her more!
This was such a creative scene. The suspense building up. With this scene alone it makes the viewer want to watch more. And with the camera angles helps with the build up of suspense. It also builds the tension and adds to what the viewer may have already seen or known.
My headcanon is that the moment that The Moment's eyes start glowing when she says Bad Wolf, she and Bad Wolf Rose in The Parting Of The Ways merged into a Hybrid (Hardy har har standing in the ruins of gallifrey etc etc) to help the doctor save his Home. "All that is, All that was, and All that ever could be". Given the power the Bad Wolf had, its not unreasonable that she fiddled with the time lock a bit, and that she made everything read BAD WOLF in the end of Turn Left to spur the doctor and donna into action against the Daleks.
I feel like when the Moment asks why it can't be also a chair really speaks about it. It would love to be helpful in such a non-destructive way as much as the Doctor does and making the events of the Day of the Doctor made its eternity.
Thats what is great about the Moment. It is a _sentient_ WMD that _does not_ want to be used.
I'm sad we didn't get to see more of John Hurt being the War Doctor. I think he was one of the best actors to play the character.
Puts Nine and Rose's meeting in a new perspective. Nine looks at his ears like "oh well that's a thing" when they first get to Rose's apartment. Had he not looked at his face for a long time, or had he just gotten it? Just immediately after this? I think it would make the most sense that he had hidden for a while, which is why he didn't flip out the way he did with Clara.
All of you Rose haters are absolutely ridiculous. Rose was one of the best companions. She was there for him when he needed her. Since season 1 with the ninth doctor you could see them start to fall for each other, you see their friendship start to grow and blossom. You're all obviously blind if you don't see it. Maybe you all should go to the optometrist, and have that checked out.
With Martha I agree she was totally ridiculous, from the first moment she starts to like him romantically, when he told her right from the beginning that she couldn't replace ROSE.
As for Amy and Clara they're alright, I like them well enough.
Just remember that the tenth doctor ended up leaving his close friend/love of his life in a parallel universe instead of travelling back in time in order to save her... (And dont use the episode "Father's day" as an argument here the doctor changed the past in "The fires of pompeii" and "The waters of mars" and as for crossing his timeline watch "The three doctors" "The five doctors" "The Two Doctors" and last but not least this exact episode "Day of the doctor") And lets not forget that he kept grieving over the fact that he lost the love of his life by kissing other women all the time...
I loved Rose in Series 1, but Series 2 seriously ruined her for me. But yeah, she was fantastic in Series 1. So I rate her highly for that series alone.
Robert Lythgoe I too love Series one... Some of the lines from the Doctor was really intelligent... And it didn't feature all kinds of stupid monsters like living body fat or a werewolf like the later RTD seasons did :) Plus the story "Dalek" was amazing too... It actually made me feel sorry for the Dalek
DrCerebro The Slitheen and the Jagrafess were kind of stupid, though.
Robert Lythgoe Yeah i had kind of forgotten about those... Yes the Slitheen are the ones i dislike the most in the shows history... It just felt a bit too silly not to mention when they started farting...
You guys should do the clip of the 11th Doctor and the 10th Doctor meeting!
It's coming...
Doctor Who Whoa you never replied to me ever.
***** ☺
I see you everywhere Ssundee, Nintendo and now Dr who?? Wtf is going on?
The serial killer is after you next... HE WILL ATTACK SOON.
I’m really sad Eccleston didn’t come back for the 50th special... But it was great getting to see Billie Piper again!
This EP is so good. Notice on S8, there was a part where Clara gave a scary memory of the Doctor when she held the doctor's feet under the bed. The Doctor was on his younger days and it was on that same barn where he came back. Clara also mentioned something that the doctor would be back there soon or whatever, but it all came as planned. Well written Moffat.
Billie’s performance was awesome. I was so happy when I saw The Day of the Doctor in Cinema!
GOD when she stops to think and the score cuts and she does the slight turn and begins in the whisper "im w-... Bad Wolf...." (eyes glow). My body shoook with chills!!! Idk something about Rose and the Bad Wolf just supersedes every other iconic companion moment for me.
Anyone else notice that "No More" Was Caan's thoughts, when too decided to end the Daleks?
Honestly, i wouldn't mind a couple season's of these two going back and forth like this
Ever hear of Spock vs Q? It's a stageplay done by Leonard Nimoy and John DeLancie. It's pretty much just Spock and Q conversing and it is a delight. John Hurt and Billie Piper doing the same, playing as the War Doctor and the Moment really would have been just as great. ....if only...
I just *love* the way John Hurt talks, I could sit and listen to him all day. May he RIP.
I was freaking out when they referenced this in Listen.
Is that little wide eyes bit a 0:43 because he remembers what Clara told him as a child in Listen.
what?
no on account that episode hadn't been written yet and john hurt wouldn't have known or been thinking about it
BITCH WHAT?!
I love the most dangerous weapon in the universe has to be convinced to be used rather then being able to be used at will
I liked that they brought Billie Piper back even though it wasn't as Rose Tyler but I liked her as the Moment. Because she was my favorite companion but I also liked Amy and Rory as well.
This, among both the classic and modern episodes, is one of my FAVORITE EPISODES in all of Doctor Who history! Truly awesome!
Notice when she first said hello to the doctor. It's the same way as when the ninth Doctor said hello to her when they first met.
"What's wrong?" "The interface is hot." "Hrrrmmm, well I do my best ~"
Ah! This scene will never not give me chills. In a word...perfection!
I can't get enough of how Rose/The Moment speaks in this clip. 'Well, I do my best...." "They must have told you The Moment had a conscious....". It's breathy, almost musical, with an odd, flirtatious inflection, all on top of that delicious British accent.
It's good to see Billie Piper again in Doctor Who.
When I saw this in the theaters, everyone in the audience cheered when Billie Piper showed up. We all loved and missed her so much! And that bit about being hot made it so hard to stop laughing. A good time was had by all that day.
The one problem with this scene is that the sky is blue. I'm not joking. In "Gridlock", the Doctor described Gallifrey saying that the sky was a 'burnt orange' and in "The Sound of Drums", there was footage of Gallifrey, the sky being shown orange. However, in this scene in "Day of the Doctor", the sky is blue. Can someone please explain to me why they broke continuity?
StarRider88 In The Five Doctors, the sky is blue despite them being on Gallifrey. It could be that the sky is blue on some parts of Gallifrey but not others. How that would work is beyond me though.
Truett Edgell Well, that is probably because the official description of Gallifrey wasn't established yet. Kind of like how before Eccelston, regeneration wasn't orange-yellow energy being shot out of your limbs and head.
Actually, the description of Gallifrey WAS established before the Five Doctors. In the story called the Sensorites, Susan (the Doctor's Granddaughter and the first companion) claims that Gallifrey has a burnt orange sky and silver leaved trees. So, point to Old Who over NuWho for establishing it first.
Also, the fact that all the regenerations now look exactly the same bugs me. They all used to be different for each Doctor and now they just suck.
Truett Edgell ...Oh right. I remember that. Forgot about that. Anyway, the reason they all looked different is because from what I heard, they were trying to find a good way to portray regeneration and then settled on the current regeneration style once technology was good enough. Also, not all regenerations look the same. Look at The Master's. His was some sort of rainbow.
StarRider88 maybe because he is not on Gallifrey? The Moment could destroy Gallifrey out of distance. That would also explain why not a lot of Daleks attacks him during his Walk through the desert.
"You were the doctor when it was impossible to be !"
I must say I really happy about John Hurt he was a terrific Doctor. I'm even glad that Christopher refused.
"The interface is hot!"
Yes. Yes indeed
Best moment ever xD. I would know how awkward it would be to be the War Doctor and say that without even knowing the interface was the representation of Bad Wolf instead of the moment itself xD.
"Stop between a girl and a box, story of your life ay doctor?"
This girl be spitting facts so true we all be on the floor rolling even now
The reason I love this is cause out of all the companions, out off all of the people The Doctor knew, 'The Moment' choosed 'Rose Tyler, Bad Wolf' this shows Rose is truly on if the most important the companion The Doctor will and have, or SO SAYS MOFFAT
Or maybe she was just the next companion....
Dont make me sad k, i may have now been holding bill hand, i still got the other clutched onto rose jacket, i really liked her
Warrior: Don't sit on that!
Bad wolf: Why not?
Warrior: Because it's not a chair it's a most dangerous weapon in the univerce!
Bad wolf: Why cant it be both?
good thinking must I say...
Do you remember when Doctor Who used to be this good? I do.
*there's enough voices in my head without the need for adding any more to the chorus thank you very much*
I really want Bad Wolf to be a continuous thing ... I hope they never forget about it or drop it
Its the most powerful and significant thing with so much potential
I was thinking about it earlier....Itd be neat, with all the fallout of recent....recentness....and the retconing the producers are trying to do....if they had a mysterious force stalking The Doctor. Warping things in ways they shouldnt. Messing with him somehow. Maybe constantly dropping him into situations of constantly having to think quick and destroy a powerful enemy force, while he is in some sort of neutral funk where good or bad if you're involved in starting shit none of yall are going to like it and everyone is getting punished (ala 'would you like me to repeat the question' but maybe not so bloody. Something along the lines of 'I was nice....too nice. Coddled too much. If you allow this crap to happen you're culpable too' with a few 'no one could see this coming' heart stringy arcs sprinkled in). Then at the culmination of the arc, the whole all seems lost bit sort of like BadWolfs introduction, possibly flashes of a blond lady in the corner of his eye in a crowded battle, or blurry images while semi-concise, he tries to get better looks and such. Then at some point BadWolf appears in a freezing of time. Insert some dialog along the lines of 'I always take you where you need to go. You are my doctor, and I want you safe' ringing to BadWolf being an expression of the TARDIS personality asserted through Rose's form, a melding of the two imprinted among the time stream. Throw in some suggestive editing like guiding Clara near The Doctor subtly here and there. Make reference to the Doctor-Donna. Influencing the Oods songs. No idea how to wrap it all up or link it to the next arc, but yeah.....
IDK, Im no writer, just get headaches with pictures sometimes.... 🤣
I hope one day we get wonderful stories like this again.
The show has severally gone down hill.
R.I.P Sir John Hurt, your part in this was spectacular, amazing actor 😊
Just thought of something funny, when he's examining the box he says "why can't there just be a big red button?" In the Zygon Inversion when he makes two replicas of it there are two big red buttons each!
With what “The End of Time” revealed to us, it’s interesting to think that using The Moment is just as much about stopping the Time Lords as it is about stopping the Daleks