Buprenorphine: What You Need To Know
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- Buprenorphine is a semisynthetic thebaine derivative in the orvinol class. It's an opioid that's widely used for pain and opioid replacement.
While it does provide recreational effects, users reliably prefer opioids like oxycodone and diacetylmorphine.
Overview Page (Including References): thedrugclassroom.com/video/bup...
Reddit discussion: / buprenorphine
Buprenorphine = Subutex; Buprenex; Temgesic; Cizdol; Butrans; Norspan
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I had a terrible fentanyl addiction for 15 years this was the only thing that helped me get off once I was clean for a few months I had no problems stopping this medication I've been clean now for over three years
Congratulations! I hope you're still going strong. I respect you 😁
Thank you for sharing your experience. The doctors make it seem like I will need to take suboxone for life 😢
It helped me get off fentanyl too. I started subs about half a year ago and i still use them.
I had a similar experience. My absolute best advice, is to only use suboxone/ subutex for exactly how long your opiate withdrawal is. For example, if I took my first dose on Monday, by the next Tuesday I would plan to quit the suboxone cold turkey. I had a homie on it who was using it for 2 years before he quit, and when he went cold turkey from I believe 16mg he said he withdrawled for a month and he talked to me around 40 days from quitting and he said he still had withdrawal effects, the first week he told me he couldn’t wipe his ass or take a shower because he was in so much pain. The doctors I saw made it seem like your most likely gonna be on it for life. That’s not the case, if you know for a fact you will probably relapsed, maybe just maybe it would be good long term, but if you have that mindset that you genuinely wanna get your shit straight, then I’d only use it until you know your opiate withdrawal is over, and no more then that. I would hate for anyone to be dependent on some bs medicine that would give you worse withdrawal then the drug you’re already using.
100% Agree with your comment.😊
Buprenorphine(no naloxone) saved me.😅😊
"withdrawal can be uncomfortable"....
It's fucking horrendous.
Sean T yes one month withdrawl. but still better than dope
Sean T Sub withdrawal is no joke, usually 10 days of hell. Id always take a low dose of methadone for the first week. it helps get the sub's out & gets over the first hell week. its still a crappy week afterwards but it beats the hell out of cold turkey
That's why u should never binge this stuff or any other drugs for that matter, at least not recreationally. With moderation & you'll be fine m8. I never get withdrawals from anything. So glad to not have any cronic pain, fuck sakes that would be bad. Tho in that case I'd prob just use cannabis like I already do, some good pain relief strains, oh hell ya,., as it's way better in the long run.
sadly i understand
I always laugh at these licensed drug dealers when they make comments like that. They all should be forced to suck on suboxone strips for 6 months and then taken off the drug so they clearly understand how fucking painful withdrawals really are.
from a 15 yr needle addiction to 120mgs of methadone to 1 mg of Suboxone, 5 yrs now and my life couldn't be better.
Its been the opioid of choice for veterinary pain relief. I take it and I assess all of my clients for its use and I believe that bupe is the best possible weapon we have in the current climate.
I'm using it, and I helps, keeps the needle out of my arm..
Nick do you interested for conversation? Im from Europe
@@TeorijaZavera What part of Europe do you live Tomche?
@@JeffRReed-yy2uj im from Macedonia write on google maps you will see near Serbia
Go to Mexico or Canada and do the ibogaine cure. One dose and you are done. No withdrawals
@@TeorijaZavera everyone knows about macidonia land of Alexander the great and jihad during the fall of Yugoslavia.
I have absolute praise for this drug.
Until 8 days ago - I was a heroin/pain killer addict.
I was taking 18 30mg Codiene tablets a day and smoking between 2 and 4 bags of heroin when the Codiene supply run out.
I didn't have a constant supply of either drug - so I would often go in to a horrible withdrawal.
8 days ago - I saw my first nurse at rehab.
I now have daily supervised doses.
I am prescribed 12mg per day.
This has been an absolute life saver for me.
I no longer have to go through the hell of withdrawal and I have noticed that it helps greatly with my depression.
I don't get high like Heroin - which I am happy about because I am not using up so much of my dopamine.
I do get a comfortable sedation and that is highly effective in stopping me from having panic attacks and anxiety.
The relief from depression elevates my mood which is helping me a lot.
If they said that I have to take this for the rest of my life - I would.
I have had more positive results from this drug than I have in all the years that I have been taking SSRI Antidepressants and using cannabis as a mood elevator.
I also have arthritis and I no longer feel any aches or pains. As a result of that - I sleep much better and I can do normal daily activities without pain/lethargy getting in the way.
The only thing I am angry about is that I listened to other heroin addicts when they told me that this drug is rubbish and not to take it.
I have wasted 4 years of my life because of them idiots.
So my advise is: Do not listen to other addicts who have negative feedback. Just because they have had a negative experience - it does not mean that you will.
Go and see your doctor and follow his/her recommendations.
I did and I am glad because thanks to my doctor - I am no longer a suffering patient.
For all recovering heroin/pain killer addicts - I wish you well in your recovery and I wish you all the best.
@Bea Lowe
Are you experiencing lower back pain since you started with Subutex?
For the past two days - I have been having strong pain at the base of my spine.
It hurts when I stand up or turn over in bed.
The pain is in the spine itself and either side of it where the muscle is.
It gets rid of my pain unless I try to quit. Then it's debilitating. The widthraws from bup. Is horrible
Be weary of this drug... If stable get off it.. The longer you are on bupe harder to get off.. Im down to 0.06 micrograms and struggle with restless legs at night so cant sleep.. This drug as stripped enamel of my teath ... Be mindful of this addictive medication...
Thank you for sharing your story. Starting my treatment today
This story with 12 step recovery is gold
Saved many lives of people I know, including my own.
Doubt that
@@collinjohansen4402 ??? k?
Same here.👍. Many get off Subutex & slag it off then relapse a week, months or years later. MillionS take Med's for various Diseases for the rest of their life so why not this! I know it's not 'total Abstinence', but I'm getting too old to worry about relapsing yet again. Hope you're doing well.
@@nickycotton6137 Doing pretty good :)
Are you still using subs? I just recently got on them and I’m curious (if you are off then) how the jump was from using to not using. (Assuming after a taper)
As soon as I learned to be satisfied with just suboxone it started working really good for me.
this got me sober after 4 years of h. i was able to taper off and never touch it again.
Sassy Lassie what is taper???
tapering is where you lower your dose overtime instead of cutting off cold turkey and having to deal with withdrawal
Sassy Lassie proud
How long did it take for you to taper off I’m about one year in I’ve been on the same dose
@@mitchlamping530 if you're sober and happy stay where you are. I had to stop because I could no longer afford it.
Attention DO NOT MIX W METHADONE they do not play well together
They dont mix well with any other opiates or opioids
Brandon Suttan I take Oxycodone with it, why does it not mix well?
If you take oxycodone and then take the suboxone it will take you into precip withdrawal! But if you take suboxone then take the oxy it won’t even work it’s not doing it job because suboxone sticks to your opioid receptors
Obviously. Really gotta avoid dosing bupe, especially iv or intranasal if you still have an opiate/opioid active in your brain, even remnants can cause a BRUTAL precipitated withdrawal that is like a roller coaster ride through hell. Worst withdrawal you will ever have. Even if you think your fully sick and in wds...all it takes is a little bit of H,oxy,Morphine etc lingering to trigger hell on Earth.
Imo and experience Morphine was the worst and I really had to wait it out n make sure b4 dosing sub, back when I was getting high...
Using it since 2009 saved and changed my life
I've been taking Suboxone for many years and I was hoping you would have a video on it!!
Thank you!!!
ive been on subs for a year now, great meds
I recently put a screaching hault to a serious 16 year addiction to subutex. It was a living nightmare that I never ever believed would stop. I was forced to stop cold turkey which I would Never advise any addict to do. I went through sheer agony which insomnia still haunts me today. I had to go to a doctor to precribe me both tranquilizers and trazadone to help sleep. The withdrawl sympthoms were so vast and severe that I won't go into for it still seems to haunt me to no end.
My favorite opioid by far. Can't confirm that it has less euphoria than its relatives; I prefer it over morphine & company any day of the week. No nodding, minimal sedation, long duration of action, no overdose risk and a great body high. Still addictive stuff, though.
3mg without tolerance; I don't feel a difference between preparations with and without naloxone.
Hey mate, i agree i used the patch 10mcgs and used it for 3 days. I didnt think i would feel anything but i started feeling very good slight euphoria and made me sleep really well hey
@Blaze It Faggot 5mg is definitely too much without tolerance, at least for me. Taking a whole 8mg pill in that situation would probably result in 12 hours of vomiting.
I get the maximum effects somewhere around 10mg. If my tolerance is too high to enjoy that amount, taking more won't do the trick either. That's why the drug can't be abused in the same way as full agonists.
@Blaze It Faggot About H: I only smoked and snorted it, but it's not much different from Oxy. Which one you prefer is highly individual. I prefer poppy-pod tea over both of them, it just feels more rounded. Definitely a recommendation, and maybe even legal in your country.
Think that's normal, cuz the naloxone (in suboxone) is only there in case u inject it, i wouldn't do anything in a swallowed pill i think. So this euphoria u get it's from the usual way of taking this like sublingual, not injected or snorted perhaps? just curious.
@@bekeneel As far as I know, suboxone always takes about 45min to kick in.no matter how you do it
Thank you for the info. Great channel. Keep it up.
thank you for these videos, I find this very informative and clear. thank you and keep up the good work. greetings from Belgium :)
Thank God for suboxone...saved my life
Yes be to
Been using it since 2008 except for one year when I choose to stop to see if I could live with my pain without help. I tapered off very, very, VERY slowly and had almost no withdrawal and i know WD's since in the past I went off over 300mg a day of morphine (other opiates at other times such as percocet) after a year of pain, I went back and have taken it since and never feel "dopey" drugged or like crap like on other opiates. By the way, it still hits the pain after 16mg maybe not the "high" but it does kill pain.
This is what I thought, heard stories from ppl that withdrawal from opioids is hell & you never wanna go through it, but mostly they probably stopped taking abruptly or lowered dose very fast, and that's a no-go ofc! I'm taking quite a lot of kratom atm, for chronic pain, About 30-40grams a day and then tolerance goes up high too. I thought buprenorphine could help me cuz if you need only 1 dose daily u could have a stable use & still good pain-relief.
@@bekeneel kratom ruined my life. Spent over $22k in 3 years. I’m so thankful to be on suboxone now, it’s covered by my insurance, doesn’t make me high, and I don’t have to wake up feeling sick ever again. It’s a lifesaver. Kratom withdrawals can last 2-4 months. I tried so many times to quit but the WD was much too severe
Im in the UK and have been on 400 mcg buprenorphine sublingual ( 2 tabs twice a day) for 7 years for pain relief.
I occasionally snort a couple but usually stick to my dose as if I run out withdrawal is a bitch for me.
On one occasion I nicked my skin and pushed a couple of temgesic into the cut keeping pressure on. I didn't think it would do anything but it did I had a similar opioid rush and high to when I was injected with morphine in hospital. Others have said I shouldn't have been high as the drug won't get into my blood stream that way do others agree?
My doc has tried to get me to switch to fentanyl patches but I've refused as I get v bad depression at times and having fentanyl patches here is too risky as I know how to get the stuff into my body in 1 shot
thanks man, your info is always the best
I take 2 tablet daily 1mg in morning and one in evening but now I am quit this but dont know hiw
Been taking now for a year. It absolutely works and I highly recommend anyone wanting to stop pills or heroin to give it a shot.
does it lower your tolerance for other full agonist opioids? If someone were taking 40mg of hydrocodone before then 4mg subtext -no taper- would they then have to go right back to 40mg hydrocodone if having surgery?
I have been on2mg for 2 years now it helps me with pain and keeps me from using drugs it saved my life
Today my first day I feel great so far
If you see this, how did things work out? I've been on for 13 years.
I am on zubsolv now and it saved my life
Glad you're still alive. Now it's time to get off that shit. Taper down to .25mg per day and never turn back. Trust me.
Grats on getting off more dangerous opiates. Buprenorphine withdrawal can be effectively combatted with Kratom. Don't stay on it too long, for me it caused more antisocial behavior towards others and defining mood problems. Kratom is a safer alternative, i strongly suggest researching it. Bupe also has bad constipation associated with it that's not present with Kratom.
qssneaky you're an idiot telling people to stop taking there Suboxone. this person might listen to you and end up relapsing and killing themselves. you aren't a doctor
DoobieDrew same brother
+qssneaky some people need to stay on it... A.A and N.A is not enough to keep one sober, a true opiate addict
What is the blood cobcentration of suboxone..at which withdrawl starts to appear..
Is poosible to quit ..addiction to injectable ..Bueprenorphine..for years
I'm almost 2 years in on subutex.although it's working for its purpose to switch opiates.im starting to have unwanted effects.like I'm getting tired and foggy and more looking like addiction.maybe if I went back to siboxone the naloxone would balance that?
Helps a lot .. naloxone makes my legs and feet swell an I even had a blood clot on a plane. So I do not like suboxone. Belbuca saved my life, metal heath an pain from multiple sclerosis and years of throwing myself down handrails before I got diagnosed.
I was on and off subs for 10 years the withdrawal was absolutely horrible thankfully I found Kratom
When you stopped subs and first went into withdrawal, did you have to wait a few days before the kratom was effective?
it'll help withdrawal immediately but it'll take a few days to actually feel good off kratom.
I'm glad I found Kratom as well. What a lifesaver. Its a much safer alternative to bupe
and once you're body adjusts to the Kratom, make sure you begin an immediate taper or you will replace one habit with another. Heavy use Kratom withdrawal is no joke.
qssneaky well it's definitely not as bad as opiate withdrawal imo. a cakewalk compared to it.
Thanks for such an informative video
Thank you for this, very helpful.
Ive been o suboxone foe nearly five years for chronic pain, instead of regular opiates.... i dont know whats worse, but for me it is easier to get....
Dont ever try to come off of it. You dont know pain until you try to quit subs. I made it four weeks with no sleep and nonstop pain. You will start to see and hear things after the 4th day. This drug isnt a savior. I have been on it 9 years and probably will be the rest of my life
that being said... I also had to quit all drugs (even nicotine) for it to work, and also not snort/shoot the meds. the amount of time the drug lasts means less frequent use and gives you the ability to forget the drug behavior and work on life before you actually start to quit.
Do you in the USA get just Suboxone or can you get Subutex (without naloxone) because in my country I refuse it to take Suboxone so they gave me 32mg Subutex every day I just had to go once a month for my Subutex I am "officially" on 32mg but I just take 4mg every day and the rest of it I sell or help my friends when they have cold turkey I was 15 years on methadone (200mg) and I often think why I was so dumb from going from methadone to Subutex but I've talked to a lot of people who say Subutex is much better than methadone I use it i.v Or sometimes I sniff it but it has a much Lower effect than methadone
Thank you drug classroom this guy is 100 percent correct
Please do Methadone!! You did an extremely good job on Buprenorphine. I used to be on this, but I want you to do methadone one of these days! Please! 😊😊😊😊😊
There was a very good UK booklet called ''The Methadone Handbook'' that truthfully went into it's history &c...It might be available online second hand. By a UK author. I was given one {as were most people at the time}..I just googled it, it's in it's 13th edition!..Different illustrations to mine {1st edition}..The Hitler thing is a myth. Explained why in the book. {From exchange Supplies, UK}
Why so you can nod out? That's all it's good for. Methadone rots your teeth out. I'm living proof of it. 15 years on that goddamn poison. Finally got free of it.
@@andyokus5735 ofc.. I know many People they are years on Methadon & they got good Teath.
@@Nonnenmacher87 Yeah, teath not Teeth!
@@andyokus5735 it only Rots your teeth if your own such. A high dose that you are nodding out with your mouth gaping open catching flies.
Your mouth dries out and that’s when the decay begins, just brush twice a day, floss 4-7 times a week, and mouthwash daily,
Its a great 🔧 to battle debilitating destructive & hellish addictions...If you have suffered or no someone who has suffered with substance abuse, mainly that Godsmack...you know what positive changes this med when taken properly can evoke in someone...God bless..
I got in a wreck and the pain doc put me on percs. Jus 84 the first visit. I go back to the doc in a few days to take a urine test. I been taking pieces of suboxone for the withdrawals cause I ran out of percs. Will that show up in my urine test on Thursday.. I jus had surgery in December.. I need the meds but I dont want him thinking I'm on subs and he giving me percs. Will I b safe on the urine test. 10 panel test.. will it show up methadone or what.. only been 4mg altogether since Friday night and tonight????????
hi everybody. I down the dose to half tablet per day but I really can't quit it completely. please help me if know any methods.
What I wouldn't give to go back on time and not get on this crap.. Yes it helped me get off oxys, but I shouldn't of listened to my doctor who prescribed me on 24 MG. I would of taken like 2mg for the first 3 or 4 days of oxy withdrawal and quit this stuff right away. .. Withdrawals last like a month if not more for some people from sub. Oxy is like a week.. Big difference when your in that much pain and have a life to live.
Same here
But I was put it on 32mg
As back it 2008 that was max done not today’s 24mg
4mg would of been enough
These Doctors were just guessing
Many still are
I’m on the same boat.
Mida Multitool withdrawals were horrible for suboxone. i was abusing it heavily, taking like 5 2mg pills over the course of like a day or two, i would snort it, super addictive
wish i just smoked weed instead but i had no access to it
now im about to go through kratom withdrawals and not have any money for pot or more kratom for probably a week or two
Mida Multitool reading this makes me cry I was on shit for less then one year after a awful car crash and I got into a program desperate for help from the WD and they put me on 24 mg of the pill and kept me on this bullshit drug due to all the awful side effects I was having I know they kept me on this for money I have a life to live and it’s not going to be this way I started to WD myself off of this I’m down to 4mg soon to be 2mg then nothing but it’s the worst thing I hate how people see this as a cure all
@@brittanyannbee did you taper off successfully
iv been on this stuff for amost 5 years it works
Leslie Cantor yeah its great.. until its quitting time and you realize how bad it fd you up
What was your reason for starting to use it, if you don’t mind me asking?
5 years means your still an addict
@@MrBalaki97 With soboxone I got my life back! I pay taxes, I bought a home, I take care of my kids, I contribute to society, my quality of life is better than ever going on 8 yrs now
"B, b, but you're not 'clean' "
So what? I have low dopamine..
Big deal...
The diabetic has to take insulin
The hypertension has to take blood pressure meds
There are a gazillion reasons some people have to take some medicines so they can function in society
I will not be browbeaten by some scummy nicotine use disorder, overly caffeinated glucose abuser,
telling me "I" am not fucking 'clean' especially when half the time the smarmy SOB lives in an Oxford house on the governments dime
NA = Not Applicable
AA wisely says in its literature
"We are NOT Doctors"
The recovery community needs to step back and look in the mirror
Do we want function and wellbeing
Or finger pointing
70,000 people DIED in 2018
We need every tool in the tool box to stop this epidemic
I could care less whether or not some pinheaded NA moron thinks I am 'clean'
If you have a problem with buprenorphine,
go read a fucking book
I have addition of bupronorphine and can't find any way how i leave this shit...
I can't able to any work without injection of this..
Please help me how can relief from this
Can i use this for pain management with a low amount of methadone of which i am dropping to 30mg i have been on Methadone for a long time a good 12+years. I'm in pain management......
Bupe will give you withdrawal if used with methadone. Methadone at least makes you feel good, Bupe has almost no high. Stick with the methadone, I wish I did. Now I am strung out on Bupe and feel nothing except withdrawals if I forget to take it. Bupe is slavery to nothing. If you want a feel nice opiate feeling, stick with methadone, or use Bupe temporarily to get off all opiates. One or the other. They don't mix
0.5-2.5mg is where you get that norbuprenorphine, I 100% believe less is more. Really popular overseas also.
Is that really true I feel more euphoric on 2.4 and I was on 8mg I've been getting off it but tbh I'm feel pretty fucking high again off just 2.4 mg
It’s a great drug to be creative or for cleaning
Daniel Evans have your dr prescribe bup only. It’s cheaper than suboxone and works just as well
Meddl
@@ninjajunr Hexe
Rainer Winkler nach Oxycodon Überdosis Tod Aufgefunden
@@screww2701 *tot
Ja wäre lustig oder?
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I have a direct question for you.
Is Suboxone and Subutex the same?? And if not what are the differences in the two??
Is the difference that Suboxone has naloxone in it, and Subutex has ZERO naloxone in it???? Please (Seth @ The drug Classroom) please help me to understand the question I have asked. Thank you.
Is subutex like suboxone in the since that you must be in alot of withdrawal to start taking it?
massively appropriate!!! started 8mg per day subutex course yesterday !!!
good luck brotha i was on bupe for 5 years help get me back on track with my life just was hell to come off and fuck3d with my body after a while..be careful homie and best of luck
Jordan come off it as soon as possible. Seriously do not throw this on the back burner.
I cold turkey'd 16mg's of suboxone and the physical wd's lasted 3 months and I had to drink alcohol to help, worst 3 months of my life, THEN it got worse with the post acute withdrawal syndrome. I was on it for 5 years then just stopped, it was the craziest experience I've ever had with any substance !!
GET OFF THE SHIT NOW. TAPER DOWN TO .25MG AND NEVER GO BACK.
Jordan Luxford hope you get right off that shit, otherwise you are in for a hell of a ride. No joke
I’m curious on how it affects pre employment drug screening.
Bupe doesn't show up on any standard drug testing. They have to specially order a test for bupe for it to show. You have nothing to worry about.
It dont show up
m using buprenorphine tablets since last 3 years continuously as its the only way out of my addiction ...wonder if I will ever be able to get off it 😟
Does Suboxone come out on hair follicle test?
This is my favorite opiate now, because it lasts so long
Do you get high from it then ? What mg u on and how do you take it?
@@MrJynx85 Not really, but it has chemical properties that have an anti-depressant effect. You feel like your best self, but not high.
this channel is amazing. great work, seth.
but yeah I was on suboxone for 8 years. the post acute withdrawal seemed never-ending. decided to give kratom a shot and it definitely helped
I’m looking into Kratom. I’ve been on Methadone for over 20 yrs I went from 240 mgs to 170 now 100 do you recommend kratom in place of any of the opioids? I’m very serious about the switch and have been doing research but I haven’t come across anyone using kratom till now. Hope to hear back from you
@@77justluigi the marketing push for kratom is strong right now so it's important to know regular kratom use comes with very uncomfortable withdrawals similar to suboxone or methadone, but nowhere near as intense as real opiate withdrawal. So ultimately you'd just be replacing your methadone dependence with a kratom dependance
@@phoenixmodellingphotography ok but for pain management that is the thing. My orthopedic surgeon wanted me to stay on a low dose of Methadone like 30/20 mgs even though I want to get off of Methadone completely. Due to my opioid use he figured Methadone would help with the back pain due to a car accident from 29 yrs ago so I don’t relapse. That’s why I was looking into kratom
@@77justluigi to be honest, I tried replying several times to you with a good and short explanation about it, but no matter what I said, youtube keeps deleting it over and over again. Can reply if you have any specific questions about it, lol
@@ryohio4706 so it’s not worth going from Methadone to Kratom
Excellent review.
How long will it stay in my system. Im in desperate need of a answer. I am positive that I will be getting tested for it this coming Friday.. I will be 8 days clean and have to take my drug test at 1:00 pm Friday.. I have been taking around 4-6 mg a day for about a year.. im a male 5ft11 and weigh about 130 pounds.. will I pass my urine test?
Austin, you should be fine.
on suboxone rn
I'm addicted to this
Seth Testerman slow withdrawal
being addicted sux wish I never tried opiates
KRATOM !! Use Red vein to get off subs. Get it from a good vendor not a gas station/ head shop.
anna oetker Weed is a drug ya dummy.
Your like 18 tf
Plz somebody ,any advice 🙏?oh and I was on heroine for 17 years STRAIGHT no breaks.i no they say muscle memory well my body totally remember the dope phone junkie pain. Now they r saying I have to b clean for this injection well I was.i peak last Wed again the INLYVTHONG IN MY SYSTEM WAS SUBOXONE
this drug ain't no joke to withdrawl from omfg pure hell!
OMG yes so hard, i come back from hell, this was my most evil nightmare.
+Isaac Khampha I'm with you it's no joke
+Lee Otoole yo i was going through sub withdrawal being a single dad with a 2yr old..i can deff say was the roughest time of my life..kratom really saved me and helped me when my insurance was cut off. was on subs 5 yrs..feel much better now and the kratom withdrawal aint shit compared to that hell.sorry anyone of u guys had to go through it
+Kyle Ohlson yes I use kratom it's a godsend
+Lee Otoole godsend most deff..wish i would of learned about it earlier..just found it in Feb. been off subs since
I consider it very evil its sheer HELL to get off of.
Yep now I'm trying to figure out how to get off of this! My Dr. Doesn't want me to go off it even though I have been on it for 9 years after getting hooked on opioids after my 2 back surgeries. It's good for a few months but I didn't plan on getting stuck on it for this long . It's harder to come off of then opioids . I don't advise taking it this long .
Are you still on kratom or buprenorphine?
Geno Miller I’ve been on it for 5 years from buying on the streets..... I finally went to a doc to get it legitimately...my goal is to get stable at 1 mg a day which I’m pretty much doing and slowly come off.
I went off it years ago. I was on the patches and cut them up over a two month period without much problems. I simply lowered my dose a liiiiittle bit every 3 days. I definitely can be done and I would not call the drug evil. However, I got off it during a depressive episode and I am still not sure if the tapering actually caused the depression or not... But I got out of it. In my opinion, it's a good drug that safes lifes but it IS very potent and withdrawal is evil when getting off too quickly.
Sub docs only want money.Taper and try your best to ween off.Good luck to you my friend.
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I use buprenorphine injection and mix with Anil injection,, ( Anil mean anti ilargi) in vain for 4year's I stop this drugs how you help me advise same anti drugs plz plz
I have been on subs now for about 5 months. I used to have really nice thick hair and now my hair is alot thinner. I am starting to develop a receding hair line really quickly. Has anyone else experienced this? Is the reason my hair is thinning and receding due to the fact that opiods reduce testosterone levels? And also raise prolactin levels. This is not good. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Within five months hair fall problem i dont think it happened from brufen norphin thay may be in ypur gean brother or i wpuld suggest you to ask your doctor.
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Brain chemistry does not create consciousness. consciousness creates the brain chemistry in order to experience the physical realty.
Kratom is the key, coupled with cannabis!
With 9 yrs of taking Rx:d SUBOXONE (naloxone added) noted for pain reduction, my experience has little to NO effect on multiple fx'd, advancing arthritis and displaced hardware
Im very experienced with opiods since I was 16 I've done almost every drug known to man but I mainly have had a interest in opiods. Anyways I have had some opiates give me visuals and sounds that aren't their at moderate doses.
Would anyone know what this is coming from?
I'm not allergic to anything and it's been years doing them I just randomly hallucinate off Subutex. Also the narcan in suboxone gives me HORRIBLE headaches. I can't stand it.
Anyone have any idea why Subutex gives me closed eye visuals and sometimes auditory hallucinations?
I don't take large doses anymore (it's been years) I mainly take less then or the same as 1mg.
Thanks! Love your channel man!
do you know the equivelancy of 0.2mg buprex to burprenorphine. I am taking two tabs of buprex sublingual every 8 hours and I don´t feel great I´m coming off of oxycodone and going into UROD in two weeks they are telling me that buprex is harder to detox from than 40 mg oxycodone q 4 round the clock .
What are the other ingredients in the buprex? I've seen some listings that suggest it only contains buprenorphine and others stating it contains additional/different drugs. If it only contains buprenorphine, then the dose is the same.
Barry n a stay on the lowest possible does do not up your sub use please man keep strong xo
Subs didn't help my pain at all.Not to mention I felt depressed a lot.Kratom has been a miracle.
Does nothing for my pain, either.
Kratom is fucking aids, I'm doing a lot better on suboxone than I was on kratom. Good luck with that nasty shit, I was addicted to it for almost 3 years after getting off of a gram a day heroin habit (smoked)
Hypogonadism... best word ever
Like mine could get any bigger.
What is the difference between taken a 8 mcg to 75 mcg 150 mvg
Hey! Thanks for the great video.. a question I have...:
Is it a typical "effect" / "symptom" that a person on bupenorphin is falling asleep in the midst of doing something to wake up a couple of secs later? ..
Thanks!
Qeensy yes. It’s still an Opioid. You’re “nodding off.” This usually happens when you have little/no tolerance to Buprenorphine. Once you’ve built tolerance, nodding should subside.
@@robbyaneq7596 thanks for the answer, Robby!
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yeah it's called nodding out it happens with all opioids
It saves my life. Finaly i can get away from Heroin. Methadon doesn't helps me.
I have some very severe chronic pain. Does it help with pain?
@@JaimeGarcia-sg9xj try kratom first before you try stronger opiates, my mom is on fentanyl patches and oxycotin pills and they didnt even work for her pain, but kratom did! She tried so many things from smoking weed to cbd oil nothing worked expect kratom.
can you please do a video on Klonopin/Clonazepam?
Sure, thanks for the suggestion.
that would be interesting. My doctor told me it is the worst benzo you can take basically
you sound like a moron 321 676 9988
IM A COP DUDE!!!!!!!!!!what is your legal drug dealers name?you really are weak[physically]
@@TheDrugClassroom we're waiting
Thanks for posting.
Hey man I know you won’t do it but can you do a video or a link on tapentadol im not a addicted to anything but I like taking things and studying them from DOM to MXE. I’ve found a bit on the drug but not to much I no it’s a opioid-û and 300mgs for me crushed made me trip out. I went from 50mgs to 100mgs gave me a week brake and then hit 200mg say again a week brake and then had 300mg crushed was nice as hell but I felt like i was tripping like spaced out ket feeling with Wave things but a thc body high also.
Can you please do a video on Methadone?
DO METHADONE
Igor Bojanic hell no it’s worse to withdrawal off of it
Yesssss!!! Please do!!!
Good information
IF BUPRENORPHINE HCL BINDS TIGHTER THAN NALOXONE HCL TO Mu-RECEPTORS THEN WHY IS IT EVEN IN SUBOXONE?? IF u were to IV the bup would still bind tighter to the receptors than the nalax so the the naloxone is essentially INACTIVE, yes?
Although buprenorphine has a high affinity and even naloxone doesn't easily displace it, the naloxone given through non-medical routes still seems to offer some blocking effect to minimize the effects of buprenorphine. So far it doesn't seem to be entirely inactive, with one factor being receptor saturation. Just because one drug has a higher affinity doesn't mean there will always be an absence of binding of another drug.
The Drug Classroom understood however other than the one (peer reviewed ?) study i know of; theres no evidence that it helps stop abuse (of the pill) and only adds negative side effects.. hence i agree its not INACTIVE but its not really there for a great reason
To get a schedule IV status, which was later changed to a schedule III, same as subutex .
@@TheDrugClassroom I'm not trying to be an ass and I appreciate the info. But where do you get this naloxone will have some blocking ability I have been a struggling addict for a while been on suboxone for 5 years and have done other opiate while on suboxone and still felt every bit of them so I ask have you ever tried this medication
Do a video on the most addictive drug in the world... A Dank Meme
he just did ;)
+Isaac Khampha haha I agree sub is shit and super addictive but not so sure it's the most addictive
+N2KY super addictive? Why the hell would anybody be taking suboxone if they weren't already addicted to opiates? Suboxone is a life saver and is a million times easier to get off of than heroin, auit spreading misinformation
+nollieflipcrook quit*
+nollieflipcrook It Is Not easier to get off of than heroin. The half life of buprenorphine is Much longer and in turn the withdrawals are Much longer possibly lasting months depending on amount of time it was taken. It is also more likely to cause PAWS Post Acute Withdrawal Symptoms.
I'm a buprenorphine addict. Naloxone does NOT reduce the effect when injected, it's just only slightly different.
Also Subutex and Temgesic are both pure Buprenorphine and still they have slightly different effects also. Compared to Suboxone which has Naloxone, the effect is much "Clearer" and with Naloxone it causes a bit more Fuzzness or something like that. Vomiting and shit like that is only at the start of use. They disappear over time. Only problems shitting or pissing stay for longer time and for men you can't cum during sex. Usually it gets frustrating for fucking like 6 hours not being able to cum. Also the Detox and bad feelings start in couple days after last use. Not like other opioids which cause it MUCH faster and MUCH more intense. Here in Finland Buprenorphine and Amphetamine are THE MOST used drugs in whole country if we dont count Cannabis.
Pastori Nestori Ive been acquiring some Buprenorphine from the streets. Every time I take it sublingually, I become nauseous after 2 hours, then it goes away. How come? Mind you this is my first opiate.
Thats right...i have been fighting with this shit over 5 years..and i can tell that i like Suboxone more than Tex...Naloxone only effects you couple of times,but then you get used to it,and theres no really difference
Pastori Nestori hey I saw your comment on someone else's comment and I wanted to know that if you inject 3mg intramuscular buprenophine does it block you from feeling the effects of heroin?? Plaza answer
Metanoize ,YOU ARE TAKING TO MUCH . Bupe is fucking strong
Started 2 weeks ago. Has saved my life honestly
Leah I messaged you on insta
Does it really work for back pain?
Great knowledge!! I do think subutex is a life saver!! 😊
Kratom also
may kratom also can help the buprenorphine addiction
+Isaac Khampha helped me come off subs..now i take kratom but my body is so much better off i feel much better and kratom withdrawals are soo minor compared to the hell of sub withdrawal
Kratom withdrawals are forgiving. I once had benzo rebound anxiety/depression. Way worse than kratom withdrawals.
+Kyle Ohlson Kyle can I reach out to you? I want your advice on Kratom
Buprenorphine has been great for me I’ve been on it ten years with no relapses was slamming h and OxyContin daily for four years before buprenorphine I will be on it for life however because the withdrawal is horrible absolutely terrible so I take sublucade now once a month I think it’s great but remember it’s just switching one opioid for another. Have a nice one
my friend taking buperonorphine after he drinks whisky a bottle but he dindnt die yet so i think its no effect if we combine these drug with whisky or benzodipene ..bec i have cough issue so iam taking benzodipene after taking bepheronorphin pill ..nothing happend to me and to my friend he drinks a lot of whisky after taking bupheronorphine tab of hogh dose like 16 mg..
Not dying because of a combination doesn't mean that combination is "safe." Many people take a variety of opioids with alcohol and don't die. It depends on the dose of the drugs involved. Opioids and alcohol are a problematic combination because it takes less of each than usual for issues to arise.
Is it easier to get than Percocet but is it also as good as stopping chronic low back pain? I can no longer get my meds because of stupid new drug laws and im going crazy trying to manage my pain
Have you tried tramadol. I think that it might be ok for you if you are used to Percocet. I've been switched between the two a lot. Doctors almost hand it out for pain. It last longer than oxycodone but it's weaker and doesn't get you as high as oxy but it is good.
WOW painkillers what a relief MAGIC MEDS
What does this drug sound like?
Me and 2 others took 1 "acid" tab. It was white on white blotter with no taste. We were feeling it within 30 minutes. It was extreme. The comeup was strong. Extreme body high. So intense that I was shaking violently uncontrollable. It felt extremely good. My heart rate was beating so fast I was convinced I could have a heart attack even though I stayed calm and controled my breathing. It felt like I was sober. I had 0 thoughts and could barely remember anything before taking the hit. My whole field of vision was covered in visuals. It looked dark and oily. Things would ripple and do weird stuff like flash away and look like cartoon/pixelated video games. It wasn't like I was tripping. It was like I was methed out since it felt so speedy and rushy, like I would imagine an amphetamine to be. It lasted 12 hours but I felt weird and still had visuals for over 48 hours. I think it was 25b-NBOMe.
It could be a DOx compound (given the duration and the strong stimulation). But, it's really not possible to say just from the description.
Juan Smolkin The blotter paper should not alter the results. It should react as you saw.
Sounds like LSD to me. LSD is quite stimulating. What you described like my 240ug trip.
Yeah Bupre does not have almost an effect when swallowed. You sniff, inject, put under your tongue or use bandaid. And it does NOT give the effects you described
my brain was destroyed by l.s.d25 DONT FUK W/your brain.IT WILL BECOME permanent.thats right.it means what it sounds like.u dont want that.live and learn or listen to me ive done acid over100 times
How long are you supposed to wait to take a subutex from the last time you used so you dont withdrawl? I know suboxone you have to wait atleast 24 hours before taking it cause it will put you into straoght withdrawls.
From what I've read, it has to be at least 12 hours...because buprenorphine has a long half-life.
This is the exact same thing i needed to kno....is there a medication where u dont have to wait those long hours ?
@@briannaw716 Subutex
I had stage 4 cancer and have chronic pain been taking pain meds too long I want to STOP will suboxone help with withdrawls and most of all the pain? Thank You
Buprenorphine may help with your pain. Everyone is different. Suboxone is usually given for addiction. Has naloxone in it.
This is just as fun as h. I went for a 3 month hike in California with some Subs. Once I ran out I felt fine. Mountains cure drug addiction, not other drugs.
I've been on buprenorphine naloxone combo for over 5 years now and have tried repeatedly to stop including taper method and I can tell you first hand the withdrawal from this is far worse than any other opiate I've ever heard of
James Walker glad i was only on it for 6 months. i switched to kratom but the risk of parasites and heavy metals is not worth it
Parasites from where?
It kills your kidneys or liver? Or any other harm?
I wonder how long this will last in my system. And will it show up on a 12 panel? if so what will it apear under?
It'll usually not be detectable within 5 days, though the actual duration varies by dose, how long you've been using, the administration method, and other factors. Normal drug tests don't look for it, but there are tests that can. I've seen different results for what a 12-panel looks for, but it doesn't appear to include buprenorphine.
NO ! Absolutely not! SUBUTEX OR SUBOXONE DOES NOT SHOW UP ON DRUG TESTS .
Unless the test is testing for buprenorphine .
But in 99.9% of drug tests . They do not have buprenorphine testing .
On a regular drug test / your average everyday drug test SUBUTEX OR SUBOXONE WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT SHOW UP ON THE TEST
Great channel can you do butrans patch
Sure, thanks for the suggestion.
He just did. Butrans=topical, extended-release buprenorphine... same thing.
What are some benefits that you see over the sublingual version, if you don't mind me asking? I'm on the sublingual, and honestly hate waiting for it to dissolve everyday, personally...
@@TheDrugClassroom Also, could you do one on "Belbucca" that is gaining in popularity and use for treatment of chronic pain?
Suboxone is great for helping stay off illegal drugs the biggest problem with it the pain relief isn't as good as methadone an full agonist the problem with it is that if you have surgey are need opioids they will not work outside of sufentil which is only available in hospital setting has the ability to break a suboxone blocked receptor which methadone has the same issue but it works on pain alot better.
Thanks for the info on sufentil. I have asked both pharmacists and physicians about what medication would break a suboxone or subutex blocked receptor in case of emergency and no one knew the answer.
Yup your 100% correct, I had major dental work done, including having a tooth pulled! And they couldn't give me any painkillers cause I'm on subs
Why isn't it prescribed more to replace stuff like hydrocodone, etc (If other opioids have a much higher recreational potential, but are prescribed a lot more often than buprenorphine)? Never herd of buprenorphine before, so I might be wrong.
It hasn't been researched as much for pain and there's less evidence for certain types of pain. Though, the research that exists is positive and it could be used as an alternative to other opioids, at least in some pain situations.
Hydrocodone is a much milder drug to deal with than Buprenorphine. When it comes time to stop one or the other the Hydrocodone is Much much easier to quit. Although bupe is a partial agonist it is still a more powerful drug (not in effect) than some commonly prescribed opiates.
Hydrocodone is a much milder drug to deal with than Buprenorphine. When it comes time to stop one or the other the Hydrocodone is Much much easier to quit. Although bupe is a partial agonist it is still a more powerful drug (not in effect) than some commonly prescribed opiates.
It is
Yo,uhad forgot to mention the length of time it stays in your system tho.?