Thanks GuitarRock for this video. My personal opinion below: Don't follow meta. Back then when 6D companion released in Korea, we heard news of how OP the 6D will be. I couldn't afford to invest in levia and Angelica so I focused on Angelica and make her +9 while many other players focused on Velfern, Mamonir, Asmode and Levia because PvP were extremely easy for them. There was no news about any legend transfers until 1.5 month before the actual released of 6D Companions. I was quite sadden because I took a heavy beating in PvP due to all the Levia powerhouse and Dalvi meta, a +10 Angelica is useless. When Companion update was released, almost everyone has +15 Angelica or Nartas from the get go thanks to the 10 free legend transfer scrolls. If only I knew about the free transfer, I would have invested in my Levia to +10 at that point of time and earn more diamonds for my ranks in which I couldn't climb with a +10 Angelica. I guess I looked too far ahead. That's when I stopped playing competitive and focus on PvE content. I understood the fact that majority of the players aren't like me and that the developers truly think a lot for the majority that so much so, players like me are already used to the feeling of getting thrashed in arena all the time. The free legend transfer scrolls in a way is also to lighten the burden of reinvesting a 6D which is also why they come up with free +9 Legend event. I started playing with non-meta units instead which I needed for PvE. Units like Kaina, Grace and Kaylin were all neglected for as long as we can remember but never once would I believe a developer create a mercenary just for it to be useless. So to start everything, I invested in Granhildr. I didn't bother to follow meta to get Refithea or Nartas but somehow Granhildr became OP as being a counter to Nartas and Dalvi. After Granhildr, I invested in Celia. The worrisome part that I have to invest the hard earn ancient coins for a stigma that can be removed and all is really unsettling but I go ahead with it. To be honest, when they reveal the rework for Alec and Celia, I was genuinely happy for those who invested in them when others didn't. Even though some of us may agreed that the rework may be too much for Alec in particular, I think that wasn't the case. The thing about meta is ever changing and never could one stay in the top for too long (aside for Dalvi). Not only that, since there are very little Alec users, it's not like you will face Alec everywhere. The one crying foul is because they invested everything to follow a meta that was too short lived which I always think is a personal choice. No one force you to follow a meta. Again, I don't see a problem if there are so little Alec users, if you think about it, many people are in the same position because almost everyone follows meta, many people won't have Alec aside from those who already invested in them long ago or whale it. You will only start encountering them. Alec is where he needs to be. It also encourages you to STOP USING TRAIN FORMATION. So don't blame the developers about it. They have reviewed from their past mistakes which many people aren't aware of, it's just that this time the updates affected the majority more than the minority. If I have to say something about the legend scroll transfer, it could have been because they heard about similar problems like what I've mentioned earlier. I definitely got the shorter end of the sticks for way longer than most players but did I give up? Just because most players are suffering right now doesn't mean it justify us the minority to continue suffering. If you think an unit is weak, then change that mindset. No unit is ever created to be weak. What GuitarRock says is correct. One bad update does not make the entire game bad. In fact, power creep and meta shifts. If everyone is considering to build Alec now, this is itself a meta which I see is short lived as well. Just wait for it when they reveal another pseudo Dalvi that can counter Alec. I can bet with you on this because I've been on the short end of the sticks far longer than most players in this game. Remember what I've said? ZENITH WILL MAKE A COMEBACK. You guys better up this comment and see for yourself in the future updates. This is a reminder.
Alec ahora si va a estar roto pero con respecto a celia me parece que era necesario, había un exceso de personajes con 100% de defensa forzándote a que pongas varias unidades de daño fijo para poder luchar, pero con celia creo que podremos ver formaciones más variadas.
i enjoyed novice arena, maintain challenger rank because your guide... but i hate normal arena from i start play this game when i encounter plenty +15 legend in lower rank.. slowly i understand this game after watching your old b9 vid ... i make conclusion no need follow 5* meta... for now i just saving material until the climax of the update.... well i like all your vid about b9...good job bro
I enjoyed this game back when there was actually strategy to it. Where you'd see unique formations and not literal duplicates of the top players in the current season. Right now, once you've whaled for the 6D and the Octos, you can literally make a team using them and crush everyone else. This game is becoming more and more p2p. I've pretty much only use swords to complete the daily mission. Novice Arena is a lot more fun now
From a F2P platinum player who only has two +15 character, it has been pretty hard. I only make 900 gems a week, just enough for one legend roll a week. I just got my rafi to +12 a few days ago which was great and when I saw that 2000 legend transfer scroll it killed me. I can't afford that I thought hot deals were supposed to help.
I agree with what you said in the video. As a player I actually felt guilty myself for not pointing out the mistake back when octo update was released. I am perhaps one of the many players who are blinded by the reward of jump start 2 and didnt give immediate strong response when it was released. When the rushed update of alec and celia without any rewards near jump start quests (2000 diamonds for a transfer scroll isnt a reward thank you), we started to realize the problem is bigger than we imagined (even if the dev gave us a jump start quest 3 to get alec or celia, which is very unlikely, the problem still exists regardless). Power creeps, meta switching, rushed updates, and the complete waste of our effort on investing in units are all results of our lack of awareness. But still, even with all the troubles they have caused, I would give the devs a chance to fix it. I believe alot of players (including you, GuitarRock) are more than happy to help discuss and search for a solution that everybody will be satisfied with. No matter how big the next update is, if it helps fixing the game, I will not mind the size and intensity of the changes (even if the devs decided to reset everything to pre-octo update as a step back to figure out how to update the octos properly). As long as the game gets on the right track or at least a healthier track, I demand no more. And with that belief, I will stick with B9 for now.
ALEC IS BALANCED Man Alec just gna die from anything just but the sniper girl and Christina whenever he is set is gna die And because of that he need a lot of investment as well. So yah he isn't OP He is so sgwichy ;)
For anyone who still loves the game and feels really disheartened by the update, I'd like to share some thoughts that I hope will help~ The meta always comes and goes - if you don't have enough to build Alec and Celia quickly right now (how can you unless you're a whale, right lol), then I'd urge you to skip out on this phase and keep saving your diamonds and skill books. Like Guitar said there's still plenty to enjoy in the game when you're not chasing the PvP meta. As a largely f2p Grandmaster/Challenger player, I'm taking a backseat on this one, in fact I actually do very frequently. Even whales struggle to chase every single meta merc that comes! So my advice is: Enjoy the game, don't stress yourself over PvP since there'll always be another meta to ride. Just do your dailies (10min if you're fast), and whatever else you do enjoy in Brave Nine. For me, I love playing meme teams in arena when I'm not competing that season :D
The problem with this game in particular is the timegating. If they want to dick around with meta shifting that’s fine and all, but when there are strict timegates that literally punish you for investing early because of a newly introduced meta wave, that kills the effort you already put in, plus puts your next goal that much further away. This is why people are disheartened, because their investments are being invalidated and the goals are further out of reach because of those very investments which just became invalid. It’s fine if they introduce new normal units once a month as most mild effort players can save enough diamonds to get those units upon release. It’s something else entirely when they backtrack and switch up legend units without providing some way for us to redistribute our invested points. Having diamonds saved doesn’t mean shit when it comes to legend books. Hell, having AC saved doesn’t mean shit. You can’t even whale your way back up because there is a hard limit on how many legend skill books you can acquire a month, and a hard limit on how many points you transfer even if you cash dumped for legend dupes. But you are right, I made it to #1 once and held it for a few days with no gacha octos in my team. I think that’s my big achievement in the game and there isn’t really any reason to put more effort than is necessary into it anymore, because the game has shown time and again it doesn’t want to respect my effort. And I’m speaking from experience when I say this game is better enjoyed if you don’t try hard in it. I’m not going to be petty and quit-but I will lounge around and leech off their freebies without giving anything back in return. Feels kind of nice tbh.
Sometimes we should all stop and ask ourselves, are we really still having fun? Is it worth it to scrape off a few hours of our lives and grind for this game? Is it even worth it to open this game once a day? Unfortunately, many of us agree that this is just ridiculous. Even though we've grinded our asses off every single day and then an update insta kills all our accounts and progress. Sometimes we have to let things go. I know it's hard but atleast we can say "Man, I'm pretty happy I played this game."
Not the first update i was unhappy with, and wont be my last. But the game is still fun so like you say man, as long as I still have fun, I will continue to play it.
i mainly run this game on my phone so id only consider coming back to this game if we could run arena in the background while doing other things on our phones. ever since the octo update fights have become way too time consuming and i really dont give a f*** about pvp anymore
At this point, there's already no turning back for the company. Let's say they rework alec and celia again, many people will be pissed too, assuming most of the players have already started to build them. This update is a failure. Bad decision was made and I hope they can somehow make the game great again. Been here since before the 6d update, those were the good times man... I miss those time without these nonsense bs that ruined the balance of the game
tell me ONE single game, that doesn't end like this.. All these games are just a building up your chicken to get the eggs, you build your clients for a few years, and then milk them, game another game, start over again. Is that so hard to understand ? why people think companies makes game for them? they make games for the sole purpose to make money. as much as they can on top of that. They found out that people are stupid enough to complain but , just keep open your wallet, and they will take advantage of it. If people were smarter we would have NEVER reached a point where games are built this way.
We never knew that, but when merc are nerfed, they give compensation. If they really rework again that's not a bad thing, because people will get back what they spent (atleast for books, I dunno for companions, maybe selection ticket ?), that's what happened several times in KR. And that's why there is "compensation" button is settings.
@@AgartNBs Even if they give back books that isn't gonna undue the amt of diamonds or money spent by people trying to catch this random ass update. And compensation isn't free from criticism either, let's not forget the amount of bitching people did when iOS players were compensated when the game was down for 2 weeks on android.
My opinion: I didn't trully care about this update, because i always lose on every pvp, even on evil castle i still at 30th... But, yeah... Alec&Celia is shit when i check their buff...
I think it's just fine to let Alec and Celia shine for a month or two. The other 6Ds had their chance to shine for a long long time already. Seto/Levia/Lucius are still not bad (Levia has 100% def but Alec doesn't).
For me the pace has been a major problem. We all played for months not summoning anything to get diamonds for compulsory legendaries. (summoning is fun, saving is not) So all the other 5 star banners didn't achieve much of anything. Top it off regular scroll summons have been terrible. Been tracking on a spreadsheet for 200 premium scrolls I got 3 five stars. They have a pretty consistent low percentage so when all these new units come out that need 3-4 companions and a full 9 skill books. Im finding im not progressing much on my other 5 stars that could use a companion or two. Mix in with the meta which lacks variety. Fixing Alec to counter some of these metas is a good idea, problem is its attached to a time gated legendary. Would have been better to update some 5 stars to be counters so I can use the more generous pity system to catch up. Finding Im burning diamonds again for Alec and other supporting units are not being improved. Vicious circle and Im feeling the game is at a cross road for next few updates for sure.
I'm a F2P player and the Update doesn't really bother me. Personally, I built Celia even when she was "bad", all the posts I was reading were saying not to build her cause she's not good anymore. Guess what, I built her anyways cause i like her and and I had Refi and Gran. I'm F2P so F*** the meta cause anyway i'll never make it. Like you said, I think there is a lot of ways to enjoy the game and have fun. I wouldn't drop every thing and build Alec though, cause there is a lot of outrage so maybe the devs will nerf Alec, I don't know I'm speculating. Also, they are not the first units to be broken. As a F2P, I had my fair share of complaints on Nartas on Levia and some smaller units that i didn't have. Like who would've thought that Eunrang would be anygood when you looked at her, now i think she'll be top contender in Novice and you can get her easy even for F2P. But anyways, like you said, I too will keep playing because i like the majority of this game and i tried a lot of games to say this.
I have 2 of them but i will only make her +9 and i done, i dont have any problem about PVP now i only care about GW and GW dont need that much meta merc and you can still win it that why i dont do arena that much anymore that my thinking so alec is not going affect me at all
I spend the last three months building my Levia +14 and apparently it was for nothing. For me is absurd that Alec, a six devil, is now more powerful that an octo, so I hope, in the future, the devs rebalance Levia.
You probably didn’t get to the part where they pretty much start limiting the units you can use to clear and realize the ones you built won’t work no matter how hard you try. That’s always been the problem with this game-anything they say, goes. You can’t really call it a strategy game when they constantly decide to invalidate mechanics on a whim. Take the recent wave for example. People built units like glacia specifically to counter levia. Then devs said No, levia will win because I say so. Now they gave Celia the ability to slap a debuff on your entire team-even through debuff immunity-because devs say so. Like you, I wished the pve in this game is more relevant. But tower is a one shot ordeal, and world bosses are a joke, with the reward thresholds so low. PvE just doesn’t get you the currency to get more waifus, even if you tell yourself that’s what you’re playing for. Game is bad. Take what you can from it with what you have. Don’t give it more time than it deserves.
At this point, build whoever you like and wait for rework. I remember people saying Alec sucked before when I showed he in my formation, so you know, just wait until your favorite character is reworked.
I started watching your videos when I first started the game a long time ago and am realizing now that I enjoy your content more than the game itself. I will likely be pulling the plug on Brave Nine, despite playing for a year and a half, but I'll still be watching your content the day it's uploaded. Thanks for being such a positive part of the Brave Nine experience for so many players for such a long time.
Isn't it fun when your Larkis insta kill their Alec and Seto, fun isn't about wining, it's about the unexpected thing that can surprise you any time like how baine can only die from alec and levia. JUST GET FLORIA. tbh I returned for Baine's buff cause I asked for it since before the game changed its name.
I feel the exact same things as you, I really fell in love with this game when I started played like 2-3 months ago, I never was able to really go further than crystal and even had very bad luck with legendaries, hell I only have seto +12 with a pity, lucius +9 and refithea +9, so I never did expect to even get to diamond and I was happy I could do that but this update just felt like a punch to the face, like what the heck are these devs thinking, even I that dont have levia +15 or lucius +15 builded yet and I felt angry about these broken units imagine the players that invested in them, I will keep playing this game but I start to think that this will keep going further and further down the hole.
Yup I have plenty of legendaries like Lucius, levia, refi, seto, gran all +12 and above, but I just feel like all those time and investment I poured into this game just wasted.....
Sorry guitarrock....I think the time for me to leave has came....I feel like that it's time for me to quit! It's been a nice journey! An absolute miracle that I met you here on TH-cam playing Browndust! I found this other game Exos Hero, switching it as main instead! See you guys later I guess... GOT YOU there!! This is sweet revenge for that last time when you trolled me saying that you'd quit!! Dude, I ain't going anywhere!! As the guild name of mine says, Dust4life!! All jokes aside though, it has been a great journey with you guys! It is absolute miracle how I've met you here on TH-cam!! Favorite TH-camr period!! Heart to heart, thank you for all the great times, gonna supporting you no mater what! Quit or not quiting! We will always be here as Guitar Support!! I have found this new game called Exos hero which I intend to play while autoing Browndust Arena!! Currently tooken me the whole day to download 1799 files out of 4243! Anyway, for my coming plans, gonna be finishing off my Skadina to +15, one more companion left. Then saving ancient coins to get 3 skill books and a Velfern while I attempt to get 1 more companion for Refi, need that +12!! As I have explicitly stated, I will be building Velfern!! Let's see what happens when the last Octos comes out!! At the time being, I guess just enjoy the Eleaner and Baine update and just forget about the Axxc and Cxxxa update!! See, cant even remember their names already!! 🤗
HAHA tbh i was pretty bummed seeing ppl quit left and right. I really want brave9 to be able to survive this and be great again. I love it too much to quit now anyways. Just super disappointed
I know most players are struggling to keep up with meta but if you think about it, the players in ur ranking are struggling too. I didn’t play much since the Alec/Celia update just usually afk-ing but I can see not much players have Alec and Celia invested as well even in high rankings. Seto/Lucius/Levia meta was too OP and you have to admit it, they need some counter. Even so with the addition of Alec/Celia you can bet players will still be using them 3. So if u spend all ur resource to get them don’t worry, they are still relevant. Meta changes almost every month at this point and yea even I cannot keep up (Grandmaster rank). But if there are no good units released or reworked, there’s nothing to chase, nothing to push towards to. OP units only comes every 3 months. Then everyone will be using the same few units then it’s gonna be boring and uninteresting. I play very often but mostly afk playing for arena and whatnot. I skipped meta units back then and I save for future updates. Don’t be too caught up by stressing how you are going to compete in this meta changing updates. Go with the flow, play efficiently and have fun. Seto getting more countered units and I don’t regret building him. Aquila is
Just started playing, and after trying a few of gacha games, I really enjoy this one. I get why people are upset about it, I just hope the game does not die from it. I sincerely enjoy it, but I understand why others don’t, given how much you can invest in these games. Just hoping for a better handling of the game and that this becomes a lesson for the devs.
Playing this game for more than a year. The game is very generous in my point of view in most areas, but if they could only make every skill transfer free then there would be no complaints about the new mercenaries. C'mon, they're gonna be making new content all the time (which is awesome), so why not make it easier for the players to adapt? The ones with few money will feel more confident to spend money in the game because they won't be stabbed in the back with the updates, and the big time spenders won't notice the difference at all (they'll just keep enjoying their waifus, and so should you).
Guitarock Couldn't agree more, honestly im stopped playing the game like a month ago, just when I reached high rabking in arena, I finally saw it, its full of super whale that has +15 octos when they just came out, and ruined the meta straight away, really sad because I love this game so much, I even have the book and some merch :(((( I dont wanna talk shit about it because I still do love it for a long time, the main focus is arena pvp and its just so hard to be stuck and cant seems to have a chance to get the champiom because a lot of update like this :((((
Let me guess. When all this is shit is going for about months. Neowiz will release octo's second batch that will shift the meta again, let's see anyone that still support this game (a.k.a alec and celia user) badmouthing this game like what we do today lmao
It's a notorious cycle, starting from when they ignore balance. Debuff wise, you have Stat weakening, att interference, etc, and suddenly they give debuff immunity. Defense wise, they have AGI, Def, Ignore incoming damage, and suddenly they dish out new units who can bypass ALL. Worse, once they issue a balance disrupting unit, they will issue another more balance disrupting unit in 2 weeks time. Why? The devs didn't create a law that can't be passed when they make a character. No clear limitations. Oh well, let's hope for the best for them.
This will only affect the end game players who are already constantly chasing the PVP meta. If you're still new and haven't started then the PVP meta shifts won't bother you too much since you will just be focusing on the PVE and this game has plenty of that as well.
I get peoples anger and frustration towards this, however... almost everybody who has been chasing the meta is in the same boat. Nobody has skilled their alecs or celias. Those who did are either A. casuals who have already skilled who they like regardless of meta and are usually no threat in arena, or B. Whales who buy the transfer tickets and who you would have had no chance against in arena anyways. Everybody is tapped out on resources, so everyone is still on as equal a footing as they ever were. And its not like the new updated octos just became useless, they just arent as op. They are still your best bet at achieving victory in arena. Sure alec has an amazing offense, but hes still a one hit wonder. My gran survived a hit from a plus 15 alec and offed him. I had the trio out so celias passive curse was in effect but still. There are ways in this game to counter anything. Celia herself is still incredibly squishy, lyudmillas are constantly offing mine in arena. People are crying about something that just isnt as bad as they are making it out to be in my opinion.
Well, it's been around a year and a half, three accounts, the next learning from the mistakes of the last, it's been fun, but I guess it's time to retire, I've reached as high as a f2p with mediocre RNG luck could, I love this game nonetheless, so no regrets. We still have SinoAlice I guess, maybe some Exos Heroes and Iron Saga.
@@rinkoshopper4027 u are looking at this in the shprt term sooner or later everyone will have alecs and the essense of powercreeping the powercreep meta ove and over again is a trult toxic one
@@zerobinary7362 and when are you gonna see him everywhere? in 4 months? When Mamonir or someone else will be better? Look, all im saying is that Seto is still gonna be God tier, nothing will change.
At least you have a +15 seto but i already uninstall that mess got too much stress and with the current state I'm glad i quitted early before the worst has yet to come such a shame from the moment i first installed this i was in love this and now look at what it has become
@@dekihime I was for a week, got my mamo +12 which was nice eleaneer and her was fun to look at until I was bored and lazy to do dailies so i dipped out :)
I enjoyed the game when it was more balanced and legendaries were much more difficult to obtain. Even then, legendaries were not overly broken. This is no more a strategy game more like a meta chasing game.
You spoke my mind! I was really into the game as it was very strategical and I love making strategies. But then it has come to a point where you just put all new +15s in one team and you will win.
The devs really have no NEED to do alot in order to fix brave nine but if they rebalance alec and celia again they need to add a feature that you get everything back if you were building a unit (let's say that i was trying to build a newly alec and say a month pass and i only get him only to a +5/6 and then the meta changes there should be a button resets the unit and gives back all the things like all the legendary books back whenever a meta is shifted again and sorry i didn't explain this right but you guys get the concept right?) I really love this game there will never be another game like brave nine in my lifetime but to see this game in the current state sadden me
I quit the game a day before the Thursday update. The game just stopped being fun after Octo companion, despite having Levia at +15 and Seto at +14. I could see how broken they are going to make Alec and Celia and with new companion update for Eleaneer, I just decided that it was not worth the time and money anymore.
I just started playing this game a few days ago and I am really glad I found you. Honestly, while I still have absolutely no idea what I'm doing and have definitely gotten the wrong start-up units (lol what is happening even), I'm still glad I was able to find a nice little community centered around your channel and the game and have been taking the advice to heart. So hey man, even with all the crap happening, thanks for just being around. Also I know the loli 6D is the right choice but I still want angelica haha this game is hard
The loli is mostly used for tackling harder PVE contents. Once you start tackling all the World Bosses and Evil Castle stages she becomes really valuable. Ange can be decent too but she's more for PVP.
think carefully before you invest on Celia... there is no turning back, Alec is more flexible... who knows when the dev will make them trash again, a month? or two
I'm a returning player and enjoyed the game pretty ok. I mean it's good to take a break from time to time. The break I did took is when the companion update dropped and I was upset so I get to drop the game at that time LOL
That's exactly what we and Guitarrock talked about on stream! He said that he also almost quite 5he game cause the companions came out!! I still remember when Walya was all the rage!!
after losing 15000 crystals and 200 scrolls to get 3 5 stars. . . I literally broke, I think it's been almost 2 weeks that I no longer play it. I did not want to add more stress to what is already damned pandemic has generated so I gave up, I'm looking for a new game more friendly hopefully someone recommends something.
It's nice to hear your thoughts about the current state of the game. I always encouraged my guild members to play this game for fun, not for the win. But seeing the increasing loss in the arena and GW feels suffocating. Whatever direction this game taking in the future, be it for the best or the worst, I hope everyone could still get through it all.
When I started this game, spending diamonds for Levia saving diamonds for her maybe 20000 or more diamonds for getting her, NOT EVEN 1 LEVIA APPEAR. Seto's comp came, saving 10000 diamonds and set levia for my mercenaries, not even 1 appear. Well, how many diamonds should I get for her? 45k pitty? Gg (spending before got this new update)
I'm going tbh if they didn't make pvp so important like they made a grind event for diamonds or anicent stones then this game would've been way more fun f2p I dropped this game after realizing how pvp orientated this is. Heck even Seven Deadly Sins Grand Cross doesn't have trash pvp like this(Elizabeth and Lostvayne are coming but here their not here as yet).
@@GuitarRockFirst i'm still new so is building levia from scratch is worth it, i just start playing, this is my second day, and i my level is 23, i have christina +12, baine +5, veronia +9, refi +9, correte +9, kaoli +9, and elaneer +0, seto +9, and on the way to get yuri or jin or maybe another 5 star warrior that you would recommend? Also on the way to get +9 Valtor
@@ardanamaliki5123 For Warrior either Jin or Eleaneer are both good. As for legendary maybe hold off from building anyone for the time being because we are getting 4 reworked ones in 2 weeks.
yeaaaa, i kinda dropped off B9 when even tho i saved 30k diamonds, only to pity twice for octos, i knew i'd be dropping since others might be more fortunate, which sucks cause B9 art is godly, dunno how they'll recover
I took a break from this game for a couple of days now and I admit it getting harder for me to try and pick it up again even though I said I would, I think I was just getting burnt out from getting upset from the game rather than enjoying it
Its just painful to see so many games that were great fall off due to their devs being greedy.i am personally not affected because its been only a month since i started the game but i feel sorry for a lot of veteran players.usually when things like this happen its better to wait a few weeks if the devs really care about the game then they will fix this asap but if they are greedy they will just make the problem worse at that point it makes no sense in staying
To be honest, it's so hard to keep up with these games, because every update always have a new meta to kill another meta. As a F2P players i can't rush like these, this is torture, i need more time to farm some crystal. So, instead of build them, i'm just collecting it.
I dont know why people so unhappy about it. The situation quite same like before. U should expect it already. They will keep introduce more and more op unit. We still didnt get octo 2nd batch. For me, it just make alec and celia back to their role. Celia should be god of debuff, and alec squishy 1hit killer. They are legendary unit and almost no one use them before.
I think people forgot how we save diamonds and scrolls so much before octo gacha released. That time no guarantee. Some people waste all resources for no octo at all when they released, include me lol. Because of that, i take a break for 1month. What i want to say is no need rage quit. This thing will keep happening.
That's because u guys chase meta too much. Chill a bit. Observe first, wait 1-2 update before invest in meta unit. Some unit not affect too much from meta change and keep viable to use like yuri. From this update, we can say 100% def meta totally destroy with celia.
"Games are meant to be enjoyed". Well said, Guitar. This game has not been enjoyable at the slightest for me. I don't feel rewarded for the time and resources I have spent on this game.
Well, my Grand +8 with support from Refithea +15 managed to double suicide with Alec +15. Seto +9 also could do same. So Alec isnt unbeatable but problem is we only could manage merc positioning in Guild War and Mystic Island. If we put our merc on line formation, we screwed. Generally, I agree with everything you and other players said. When I started playing this game four month ago, I felt like this is one of best gacha games ever. Responsive devs, enganging gameplay and beautiful art. Yet, powercreep and blitzkrieg style update with new meta destroy old meta too fast is pretty annoying.🤦 No wonder so many players ragequit. 😩 Welp, I will enjoy the game while it last. Not a whale and merely buy monthly package. Just a casual player 🤗
i always thought you are sponsored so u always didnt complain but finally man u did it. What you said in the entire video im sure all of us share the same sentiments with it. Idk how this game is gonna go i cant bear to quit but one thing for sure is i will no longer spend sm money on it
even if i stop playing this game when the last update made it absolutely trash...i still love this game a lot. and even if i stop playing it i wont unsub ur channel guitar.its the close to what i can get in brave nine after quiting...
I'm just going to throw my cecilia out there to buy some time like usual. Alec is still a squishy mercenary thank goodness. But anyways chasing meta will always lead to heartbreak in the long run tbh I'm going to stick with using my favorites. Hopefully the game doesn't die until hanya's companion comes out :(
For me I'll still play B9, it doesn't effect too much from me playing it, I'm always happy to open the game and see its art style it made me stay from and it's still fun (for me at least) doing pvp and GW when scouting I'm getting that adrenaline if a taunter moves first or an attack without buffs first even though my mercenaries are about half way at +7 or +11 I still think they're useful for me and might skillup them later on but rip if only I joined when b9 was global but ah well it's fine, on the thing that when there's a new merc I always try to get the ones that appeal to me, meta or not if they looks nice then I don't mind and just pull first day so fortunately the pulls for me for the time being isn't bad so that's another one that kept me staying, still love the game and will stay until whenever the game will be up for. Nice video btw!
WOAH THERE BUSTER NO SWEARING IN THIS CHRISTIAN MINECRAFT SEVER | Even tho the update sucks ill still play brave nine/brown dust | Wait who do i choose for the legend unit for the legend pulls now | If i could choose only companions id do that Epic gamer move : use gacha club for gacha battles P.S dont
Welp, it's time now, until December 2024, Goodbye BrownDust/BraveNine 😢😢😢
when Brave Nine's top content creator comments on their milking scheme, you know the game is done..
Thanks GuitarRock for this video.
My personal opinion below:
Don't follow meta.
Back then when 6D companion released in Korea, we heard news of how OP the 6D will be. I couldn't afford to invest in levia and Angelica so I focused on Angelica and make her +9 while many other players focused on Velfern, Mamonir, Asmode and Levia because PvP were extremely easy for them. There was no news about any legend transfers until 1.5 month before the actual released of 6D Companions.
I was quite sadden because I took a heavy beating in PvP due to all the Levia powerhouse and Dalvi meta, a +10 Angelica is useless. When Companion update was released, almost everyone has +15 Angelica or Nartas from the get go thanks to the 10 free legend transfer scrolls. If only I knew about the free transfer, I would have invested in my Levia to +10 at that point of time and earn more diamonds for my ranks in which I couldn't climb with a +10 Angelica. I guess I looked too far ahead.
That's when I stopped playing competitive and focus on PvE content. I understood the fact that majority of the players aren't like me and that the developers truly think a lot for the majority that so much so, players like me are already used to the feeling of getting thrashed in arena all the time. The free legend transfer scrolls in a way is also to lighten the burden of reinvesting a 6D which is also why they come up with free +9 Legend event.
I started playing with non-meta units instead which I needed for PvE. Units like Kaina, Grace and Kaylin were all neglected for as long as we can remember but never once would I believe a developer create a mercenary just for it to be useless. So to start everything, I invested in Granhildr. I didn't bother to follow meta to get Refithea or Nartas but somehow Granhildr became OP as being a counter to Nartas and Dalvi.
After Granhildr, I invested in Celia. The worrisome part that I have to invest the hard earn ancient coins for a stigma that can be removed and all is really unsettling but I go ahead with it.
To be honest, when they reveal the rework for Alec and Celia, I was genuinely happy for those who invested in them when others didn't. Even though some of us may agreed that the rework may be too much for Alec in particular, I think that wasn't the case. The thing about meta is ever changing and never could one stay in the top for too long (aside for Dalvi).
Not only that, since there are very little Alec users, it's not like you will face Alec everywhere. The one crying foul is because they invested everything to follow a meta that was too short lived which I always think is a personal choice. No one force you to follow a meta. Again, I don't see a problem if there are so little Alec users, if you think about it, many people are in the same position because almost everyone follows meta, many people won't have Alec aside from those who already invested in them long ago or whale it. You will only start encountering them.
Alec is where he needs to be. It also encourages you to STOP USING TRAIN FORMATION.
So don't blame the developers about it. They have reviewed from their past mistakes which many people aren't aware of, it's just that this time the updates affected the majority more than the minority. If I have to say something about the legend scroll transfer, it could have been because they heard about similar problems like what I've mentioned earlier.
I definitely got the shorter end of the sticks for way longer than most players but did I give up? Just because most players are suffering right now doesn't mean it justify us the minority to continue suffering.
If you think an unit is weak, then change that mindset. No unit is ever created to be weak.
What GuitarRock says is correct. One bad update does not make the entire game bad. In fact, power creep and meta shifts. If everyone is considering to build Alec now, this is itself a meta which I see is short lived as well. Just wait for it when they reveal another pseudo Dalvi that can counter Alec. I can bet with you on this because I've been on the short end of the sticks far longer than most players in this game.
Remember what I've said? ZENITH WILL MAKE A COMEBACK. You guys better up this comment and see for yourself in the future updates. This is a reminder.
Alec ahora si va a estar roto pero con respecto a celia me parece que era necesario, había un exceso de personajes con 100% de defensa forzándote a que pongas varias unidades de daño fijo para poder luchar, pero con celia creo que podremos ver formaciones más variadas.
Don't quit! This is just a beginning for a new meta...
i enjoyed novice arena, maintain challenger rank because your guide... but i hate normal arena from i start play this game when i encounter plenty +15 legend in lower rank.. slowly i understand this game after watching your old b9 vid ... i make conclusion no need follow 5* meta... for now i just saving material until the climax of the update.... well i like all your vid about b9...good job bro
I enjoyed this game back when there was actually strategy to it. Where you'd see unique formations and not literal duplicates of the top players in the current season. Right now, once you've whaled for the 6D and the Octos, you can literally make a team using them and crush everyone else. This game is becoming more and more p2p. I've pretty much only use swords to complete the daily mission. Novice Arena is a lot more fun now
100%
oh no please, im just started to play the game, im just started learning about the game . . . . hope nothing bad will happend in the future
Don'w worry, guitar said it himself, one bad update doesn't mean the entire game is bad, lets just hope for the best
From a F2P platinum player who only has two +15 character, it has been pretty hard. I only make 900 gems a week, just enough for one legend roll a week. I just got my rafi to +12 a few days ago which was great and when I saw that 2000 legend transfer scroll it killed me. I can't afford that I thought hot deals were supposed to help.
I agree with what you said in the video. As a player I actually felt guilty myself for not pointing out the mistake back when octo update was released. I am perhaps one of the many players who are blinded by the reward of jump start 2 and didnt give immediate strong response when it was released. When the rushed update of alec and celia without any rewards near jump start quests (2000 diamonds for a transfer scroll isnt a reward thank you), we started to realize the problem is bigger than we imagined (even if the dev gave us a jump start quest 3 to get alec or celia, which is very unlikely, the problem still exists regardless). Power creeps, meta switching, rushed updates, and the complete waste of our effort on investing in units are all results of our lack of awareness. But still, even with all the troubles they have caused, I would give the devs a chance to fix it. I believe alot of players (including you, GuitarRock) are more than happy to help discuss and search for a solution that everybody will be satisfied with. No matter how big the next update is, if it helps fixing the game, I will not mind the size and intensity of the changes (even if the devs decided to reset everything to pre-octo update as a step back to figure out how to update the octos properly). As long as the game gets on the right track or at least a healthier track, I demand no more. And with that belief, I will stick with B9 for now.
ALEC IS BALANCED
Man Alec just gna die from anything just but the sniper girl and Christina whenever he is set is gna die
And because of that he need a lot of investment as well.
So yah he isn't OP
He is so sgwichy ;)
For anyone who still loves the game and feels really disheartened by the update, I'd like to share some thoughts that I hope will help~ The meta always comes and goes - if you don't have enough to build Alec and Celia quickly right now (how can you unless you're a whale, right lol), then I'd urge you to skip out on this phase and keep saving your diamonds and skill books. Like Guitar said there's still plenty to enjoy in the game when you're not chasing the PvP meta. As a largely f2p Grandmaster/Challenger player, I'm taking a backseat on this one, in fact I actually do very frequently. Even whales struggle to chase every single meta merc that comes! So my advice is: Enjoy the game, don't stress yourself over PvP since there'll always be another meta to ride. Just do your dailies (10min if you're fast), and whatever else you do enjoy in Brave Nine. For me, I love playing meme teams in arena when I'm not competing that season :D
The problem with this game in particular is the timegating. If they want to dick around with meta shifting that’s fine and all, but when there are strict timegates that literally punish you for investing early because of a newly introduced meta wave, that kills the effort you already put in, plus puts your next goal that much further away. This is why people are disheartened, because their investments are being invalidated and the goals are further out of reach because of those very investments which just became invalid. It’s fine if they introduce new normal units once a month as most mild effort players can save enough diamonds to get those units upon release. It’s something else entirely when they backtrack and switch up legend units without providing some way for us to redistribute our invested points. Having diamonds saved doesn’t mean shit when it comes to legend books. Hell, having AC saved doesn’t mean shit. You can’t even whale your way back up because there is a hard limit on how many legend skill books you can acquire a month, and a hard limit on how many points you transfer even if you cash dumped for legend dupes. But you are right, I made it to #1 once and held it for a few days with no gacha octos in my team. I think that’s my big achievement in the game and there isn’t really any reason to put more effort than is necessary into it anymore, because the game has shown time and again it doesn’t want to respect my effort. And I’m speaking from experience when I say this game is better enjoyed if you don’t try hard in it. I’m not going to be petty and quit-but I will lounge around and leech off their freebies without giving anything back in return. Feels kind of nice tbh.
Sometimes we should all stop and ask ourselves, are we really still having fun? Is it worth it to scrape off a few hours of our lives and grind for this game? Is it even worth it to open this game once a day? Unfortunately, many of us agree that this is just ridiculous. Even though we've grinded our asses off every single day and then an update insta kills all our accounts and progress. Sometimes we have to let things go. I know it's hard but atleast we can say "Man, I'm pretty happy I played this game."
Not the first update i was unhappy with, and wont be my last. But the game is still fun so like you say man, as long as I still have fun, I will continue to play it.
Alec looks like "ban" from seven deadly sins anime
Change my mind
The only good thing about this update is the song, that thing slaps
i mainly run this game on my phone so id only consider coming back to this game if we could run arena in the background while doing other things on our phones. ever since the octo update fights have become way too time consuming and i really dont give a f*** about pvp anymore
they shud have do a voting poll on which unit should get update and based on highest work only gets rework
At this point, there's already no turning back for the company. Let's say they rework alec and celia again, many people will be pissed too, assuming most of the players have already started to build them. This update is a failure. Bad decision was made and I hope they can somehow make the game great again. Been here since before the 6d update, those were the good times man... I miss those time without these nonsense bs that ruined the balance of the game
tell me ONE single game, that doesn't end like this..
All these games are just a building up your chicken to get the eggs, you build your clients for a few years, and then milk them, game another game, start over again.
Is that so hard to understand ? why people think companies makes game for them? they make games for the sole purpose to make money. as much as they can on top of that.
They found out that people are stupid enough to complain but , just keep open your wallet, and they will take advantage of it.
If people were smarter we would have NEVER reached a point where games are built this way.
We never knew that, but when merc are nerfed, they give compensation. If they really rework again that's not a bad thing, because people will get back what they spent (atleast for books, I dunno for companions, maybe selection ticket ?), that's what happened several times in KR. And that's why there is "compensation" button is settings.
@@AgartNBs Even if they give back books that isn't gonna undue the amt of diamonds or money spent by people trying to catch this random ass update. And compensation isn't free from criticism either, let's not forget the amount of bitching people did when iOS players were compensated when the game was down for 2 weeks on android.
If they didn't do something about this...
Brown Dust only have time for less than 1,5 years...
My opinion:
I didn't trully care about this update, because i always lose on every pvp, even on evil castle i still at 30th... But, yeah... Alec&Celia is shit when i check their buff...
Time to find a new game with guitar rock!!!
I think it's just fine to let Alec and Celia shine for a month or two. The other 6Ds had their chance to shine for a long long time already. Seto/Levia/Lucius are still not bad (Levia has 100% def but Alec doesn't).
wow why does this video sound so sad. feelsbadman
For me the pace has been a major problem. We all played for months not summoning anything to get diamonds for compulsory legendaries. (summoning is fun, saving is not) So all the other 5 star banners didn't achieve much of anything. Top it off regular scroll summons have been terrible. Been tracking on a spreadsheet for 200 premium scrolls I got 3 five stars. They have a pretty consistent low percentage so when all these new units come out that need 3-4 companions and a full 9 skill books. Im finding im not progressing much on my other 5 stars that could use a companion or two. Mix in with the meta which lacks variety. Fixing Alec to counter some of these metas is a good idea, problem is its attached to a time gated legendary. Would have been better to update some 5 stars to be counters so I can use the more generous pity system to catch up. Finding Im burning diamonds again for Alec and other supporting units are not being improved. Vicious circle and Im feeling the game is at a cross road for next few updates for sure.
should i pick alec tomorrow on jump start?
Like i'm casually building my Levia to +15 and then they buff Alec and Celia, like-
I'm a F2P player and the Update doesn't really bother me. Personally, I built Celia even when she was "bad", all the posts I was reading were saying not to build her cause she's not good anymore. Guess what, I built her anyways cause i like her and and I had Refi and Gran. I'm F2P so F*** the meta cause anyway i'll never make it. Like you said, I think there is a lot of ways to enjoy the game and have fun. I wouldn't drop every thing and build Alec though, cause there is a lot of outrage so maybe the devs will nerf Alec, I don't know I'm speculating.
Also, they are not the first units to be broken. As a F2P, I had my fair share of complaints on Nartas on Levia and some smaller units that i didn't have.
Like who would've thought that Eunrang would be anygood when you looked at her, now i think she'll be top contender in Novice and you can get her easy even for F2P.
But anyways, like you said, I too will keep playing because i like the majority of this game and i tried a lot of games to say this.
I have 2 of them but i will only make her +9 and i done, i dont have any problem about PVP now i only care about GW and GW dont need that much meta merc and you can still win it that why i dont do arena that much anymore that my thinking so alec is not going affect me at all
I spend the last three months building my Levia +14 and apparently it was for nothing. For me is absurd that Alec, a six devil, is now more powerful that an octo, so I hope, in the future, the devs rebalance Levia.
Good thing I don't play PvP much. I will eventually, which is probably when I will start to lose interest
Brave Alec
I agree w GR here because I still can enjoy playing B9's other feature than PvP
You probably didn’t get to the part where they pretty much start limiting the units you can use to clear and realize the ones you built won’t work no matter how hard you try. That’s always been the problem with this game-anything they say, goes. You can’t really call it a strategy game when they constantly decide to invalidate mechanics on a whim. Take the recent wave for example. People built units like glacia specifically to counter levia. Then devs said No, levia will win because I say so. Now they gave Celia the ability to slap a debuff on your entire team-even through debuff immunity-because devs say so. Like you, I wished the pve in this game is more relevant. But tower is a one shot ordeal, and world bosses are a joke, with the reward thresholds so low. PvE just doesn’t get you the currency to get more waifus, even if you tell yourself that’s what you’re playing for. Game is bad. Take what you can from it with what you have. Don’t give it more time than it deserves.
I don't play Brave 9 but I like your honesty.
At this point, build whoever you like and wait for rework. I remember people saying Alec sucked before when I showed he in my formation, so you know, just wait until your favorite character is reworked.
Well, im quiting soon and ill be playing bloodline
Dev just need to rebalance the units,not releasing OP unit to counter the meta
I started watching your videos when I first started the game a long time ago and am realizing now that I enjoy your content more than the game itself. I will likely be pulling the plug on Brave Nine, despite playing for a year and a half, but I'll still be watching your content the day it's uploaded. Thanks for being such a positive part of the Brave Nine experience for so many players for such a long time.
Isn't it fun when your Larkis insta kill their Alec and Seto, fun isn't about wining, it's about the unexpected thing that can surprise you any time like how baine can only die from alec and levia. JUST GET FLORIA. tbh I returned for Baine's buff cause I asked for it since before the game changed its name.
ok if they revert the update and just deliver it later then im fine
I feel the exact same things as you, I really fell in love with this game when I started played like 2-3 months ago, I never was able to really go further than crystal and even had very bad luck with legendaries, hell I only have seto +12 with a pity, lucius +9 and refithea +9, so I never did expect to even get to diamond and I was happy I could do that but this update just felt like a punch to the face, like what the heck are these devs thinking, even I that dont have levia +15 or lucius +15 builded yet and I felt angry about these broken units imagine the players that invested in them, I will keep playing this game but I start to think that this will keep going further and further down the hole.
Lucius+9? I didn't even have one
Legend pull is suck
Yup I have plenty of legendaries like Lucius, levia, refi, seto, gran all +12 and above, but I just feel like all those time and investment I poured into this game just wasted.....
Sorry guitarrock....I think the time for me to leave has came....I feel like that it's time for me to quit! It's been a nice journey! An absolute miracle that I met you here on TH-cam playing Browndust! I found this other game Exos Hero, switching it as main instead! See you guys later I guess...
GOT YOU there!! This is sweet revenge for that last time when you trolled me saying that you'd quit!! Dude, I ain't going anywhere!! As the guild name of mine says, Dust4life!! All jokes aside though, it has been a great journey with you guys! It is absolute miracle how I've met you here on TH-cam!! Favorite TH-camr period!! Heart to heart, thank you for all the great times, gonna supporting you no mater what! Quit or not quiting! We will always be here as Guitar Support!! I have found this new game called Exos hero which I intend to play while autoing Browndust Arena!! Currently tooken me the whole day to download 1799 files out of 4243! Anyway, for my coming plans, gonna be finishing off my Skadina to +15, one more companion left. Then saving ancient coins to get 3 skill books and a Velfern while I attempt to get 1 more companion for Refi, need that +12!! As I have explicitly stated, I will be building Velfern!! Let's see what happens when the last Octos comes out!! At the time being, I guess just enjoy the Eleaner and Baine update and just forget about the Axxc and Cxxxa update!! See, cant even remember their names already!! 🤗
HAHA tbh i was pretty bummed seeing ppl quit left and right. I really want brave9 to be able to survive this and be great again. I love it too much to quit now anyways. Just super disappointed
I know most players are struggling to keep up with meta but if you think about it, the players in ur ranking are struggling too.
I didn’t play much since the Alec/Celia update just usually afk-ing but I can see not much players have Alec and Celia invested as well even in high rankings.
Seto/Lucius/Levia meta was too OP and you have to admit it, they need some counter. Even so with the addition of Alec/Celia you can bet players will still be using them 3. So if u spend all ur resource to get them don’t worry, they are still relevant.
Meta changes almost every month at this point and yea even I cannot keep up (Grandmaster rank). But if there are no good units released or reworked, there’s nothing to chase, nothing to push towards to. OP units only comes every 3 months. Then everyone will be using the same few units then it’s gonna be boring and uninteresting.
I play very often but mostly afk playing for arena and whatnot. I skipped meta units back then and I save for future updates. Don’t be too caught up by stressing how you are going to compete in this meta changing updates. Go with the flow, play efficiently and have fun. Seto getting more countered units and I don’t regret building him. Aquila is
this update really FUCKING sucks, but i'll stay and wait for the update for Velfern.
I'm not enjoying my pull. I used to enjoy this game a lot but now not so much.
Just started playing, and after trying a few of gacha games, I really enjoy this one. I get why people are upset about it, I just hope the game does not die from it. I sincerely enjoy it, but I understand why others don’t, given how much you can invest in these games. Just hoping for a better handling of the game and that this becomes a lesson for the devs.
Playing this game for more than a year. The game is very generous in my point of view in most areas, but if they could only make every skill transfer free then there would be no complaints about the new mercenaries. C'mon, they're gonna be making new content all the time (which is awesome), so why not make it easier for the players to adapt? The ones with few money will feel more confident to spend money in the game because they won't be stabbed in the back with the updates, and the big time spenders won't notice the difference at all (they'll just keep enjoying their waifus, and so should you).
Guitarock Couldn't agree more, honestly im stopped playing the game like a month ago, just when I reached high rabking in arena, I finally saw it, its full of super whale that has +15 octos when they just came out, and ruined the meta straight away, really sad because I love this game so much, I even have the book and some merch :(((( I dont wanna talk shit about it because I still do love it for a long time, the main focus is arena pvp and its just so hard to be stuck and cant seems to have a chance to get the champiom because a lot of update like this :((((
Well its a game where im f2p no reason to quit im happy being at crystal
Respect bro
Crystal, I wish I can get back up to crystal as well! Respect as well!!
@@asurapriest8054 How is he mediocre?
Should rename login screen to octo falling.
yea octo rising more like octo falling
HAHA
OMG this is gold! Hahaha
Let me guess. When all this is shit is going for about months. Neowiz will release octo's second batch that will shift the meta again, let's see anyone that still support this game (a.k.a alec and celia user) badmouthing this game like what we do today lmao
It's a notorious cycle, starting from when they ignore balance. Debuff wise, you have Stat weakening, att interference, etc, and suddenly they give debuff immunity. Defense wise, they have AGI, Def, Ignore incoming damage, and suddenly they dish out new units who can bypass ALL. Worse, once they issue a balance disrupting unit, they will issue another more balance disrupting unit in 2 weeks time.
Why? The devs didn't create a law that can't be passed when they make a character. No clear limitations. Oh well, let's hope for the best for them.
I honestly dont know if I want to start the game so I'm pretty conflicted
This will only affect the end game players who are already constantly chasing the PVP meta. If you're still new and haven't started then the PVP meta shifts won't bother you too much since you will just be focusing on the PVE and this game has plenty of that as well.
@@GuitarRockFirst o sweet guess I'll give it a try
1 patch fucked up my 2 years of progress
I get peoples anger and frustration towards this, however... almost everybody who has been chasing the meta is in the same boat.
Nobody has skilled their alecs or celias. Those who did are either A. casuals who have already skilled who they like regardless of meta and are usually no threat in arena, or B. Whales who buy the transfer tickets and who you would have had no chance against in arena anyways.
Everybody is tapped out on resources, so everyone is still on as equal a footing as they ever were. And its not like the new updated octos just became useless, they just arent as op.
They are still your best bet at achieving victory in arena.
Sure alec has an amazing offense, but hes still a one hit wonder. My gran survived a hit from a plus 15 alec and offed him. I had the trio out so celias passive curse was in effect but still. There are ways in this game to counter anything. Celia herself is still incredibly squishy, lyudmillas are constantly offing mine in arena.
People are crying about something that just isnt as bad as they are making it out to be in my opinion.
Well, it's been around a year and a half, three accounts, the next learning from the mistakes of the last, it's been fun, but I guess it's time to retire, I've reached as high as a f2p with mediocre RNG luck could, I love this game nonetheless, so no regrets. We still have SinoAlice I guess, maybe some Exos Heroes and Iron Saga.
If this continues they mightaswell just sell their game to ea and we wouldnt notice any diffefence
+15 my seto a week ago. now I have the game uninstalled xD
Hahaha
Why? he is still god tier, you just don't place him in the front against eleannear and its not like many people have alec.
@@rinkoshopper4027 u are looking at this in the shprt term sooner or later everyone will have alecs and the essense of powercreeping the powercreep meta ove and over again is a trult toxic one
@@zerobinary7362 and when are you gonna see him everywhere? in 4 months? When Mamonir or someone else will be better? Look, all im saying is that Seto is still gonna be God tier, nothing will change.
At least you have a +15 seto but i already uninstall that mess got too much stress and with the current state I'm glad i quitted early before the worst has yet to come such a shame from the moment i first installed this i was in love this and now look at what it has become
Keeping aside the inevitable downfall of B9, I love your content. And your editing skills is top notch. Keep up to the good work man.
uninstalled lost motivation . might comeback for mamonir's update tho until then peace . haha
I'll be waiting for you with my +15 Velfern!! Untill then, see ya!!
I don't blame you did the same i am thinking of reinstalling when this mess is over
mamo+15 is the perfecness, maybe.
you back?
@@dekihime I was for a week, got my mamo +12 which was nice eleaneer and her was fun to look at until I was bored and lazy to do dailies so i dipped out :)
I enjoyed the game when it was more balanced and legendaries were much more difficult to obtain. Even then, legendaries were not overly broken. This is no more a strategy game more like a meta chasing game.
You spoke my mind! I was really into the game as it was very strategical and I love making strategies. But then it has come to a point where you just put all new +15s in one team and you will win.
deleted the game because i got knocked down in arena just because i didnt buy alec or still cant frickng pull the ino
How about the new SinoAlice banner, is it worth pulling? With all the meta chasing, I'm beginning to lose interest in Brave 9 tbh.
10:40 about the extra rubbish, if think about it the companions are the extra rubbish...
I could have tolerated it, but that 2k diamonds for transfer scrolls did it for me.
The devs really have no NEED to do alot in order to fix brave nine but if they rebalance alec and celia again they need to add a feature that you get everything back if you were building a unit (let's say that i was trying to build a newly alec and say a month pass and i only get him only to a +5/6 and then the meta changes there should be a button resets the unit and gives back all the things like all the legendary books back whenever a meta is shifted again and sorry i didn't explain this right but you guys get the concept right?) I really love this game there will never be another game like brave nine in my lifetime but to see this game in the current state sadden me
I quit the game a day before the Thursday update. The game just stopped being fun after Octo companion, despite having Levia at +15 and Seto at +14. I could see how broken they are going to make Alec and Celia and with new companion update for Eleaneer, I just decided that it was not worth the time and money anymore.
They should be sued by 7DS for that ban rip
Well I really like your Attitude.Dont worry I will follow you whatever you play.(except for Sino)
I just started playing this game a few days ago and I am really glad I found you. Honestly, while I still have absolutely no idea what I'm doing and have definitely gotten the wrong start-up units (lol what is happening even), I'm still glad I was able to find a nice little community centered around your channel and the game and have been taking the advice to heart. So hey man, even with all the crap happening, thanks for just being around.
Also I know the loli 6D is the right choice but I still want angelica haha this game is hard
The loli is mostly used for tackling harder PVE contents. Once you start tackling all the World Bosses and Evil Castle stages she becomes really valuable. Ange can be decent too but she's more for PVP.
What is the name of the music?
Oh boy helga is getting a rebalance o.0
think carefully before you invest on Celia... there is no turning back, Alec is more flexible... who knows when the dev will make them trash again, a month? or two
I'm a returning player and enjoyed the game pretty ok. I mean it's good to take a break from time to time. The break I did took is when the companion update dropped and I was upset so I get to drop the game at that time LOL
That's exactly what we and Guitarrock talked about on stream! He said that he also almost quite 5he game cause the companions came out!! I still remember when Walya was all the rage!!
after losing 15000 crystals and 200 scrolls to get 3 5 stars. . . I literally broke, I think it's been almost 2 weeks that I no longer play it. I did not want to add more stress to what is already damned pandemic has generated so I gave up, I'm looking for a new game more friendly hopefully someone recommends something.
Destiny child
It's nice to hear your thoughts about the current state of the game. I always encouraged my guild members to play this game for fun, not for the win. But seeing the increasing loss in the arena and GW feels suffocating.
Whatever direction this game taking in the future, be it for the best or the worst, I hope everyone could still get through it all.
Which guild
ill keep playing but i wont build alec or celia
Ya its for the best since as soon as we build them devs will do something to make them completely useless 😂
@@psychogamer3856 hahaha exactly😂
When I started this game, spending diamonds for Levia saving diamonds for her maybe 20000 or more diamonds for getting her, NOT EVEN 1 LEVIA APPEAR. Seto's comp came, saving 10000 diamonds and set levia for my mercenaries, not even 1 appear. Well, how many diamonds should I get for her? 45k pitty? Gg
(spending before got this new update)
Now im alittle late for this video but units in this game have been broken by the start and you guys just noticed it now?
I'm going tbh if they didn't make pvp so important like they made a grind event for diamonds or anicent stones then this game would've been way more fun f2p I dropped this game after realizing how pvp orientated this is. Heck even Seven Deadly Sins Grand Cross doesn't have trash pvp like this(Elizabeth and Lostvayne are coming but here their not here as yet).
"One bad update doesnt meaning the entire game bad" .. That line i love it!
Damn turning into P2W, btw is building alec for now is better than levla?
They both have different roles, Levia fits in certain teams better while Alec fits into burst damage team that can deal with enemies in R1.
@@GuitarRockFirst i'm still new so is building levia from scratch is worth it, i just start playing, this is my second day, and i my level is 23, i have christina +12, baine +5, veronia +9, refi +9, correte +9, kaoli +9, and elaneer +0, seto +9, and on the way to get yuri or jin or maybe another 5 star warrior that you would recommend? Also on the way to get +9 Valtor
@@ardanamaliki5123 For Warrior either Jin or Eleaneer are both good. As for legendary maybe hold off from building anyone for the time being because we are getting 4 reworked ones in 2 weeks.
@@GuitarRockFirst okayyy, thank you very much GuitarRock Sensei!!!
yeaaaa, i kinda dropped off B9 when even tho i saved 30k diamonds, only to pity twice for octos, i knew i'd be dropping since others might be more fortunate, which sucks cause B9 art is godly, dunno how they'll recover
I'm done buying monthly premium. Just gonna play this game casually.
Don't Forget if u invested in celia u can't transfer her skills so you must think about it
yea i strongly suggest ppl not to invest in celia now cos of that and her kit honestly doesnt seem viable in the long run.
I took a break from this game for a couple of days now and I admit it getting harder for me to try and pick it up again even though I said I would, I think I was just getting burnt out from getting upset from the game rather than enjoying it
Its just painful to see so many games that were great fall off due to their devs being greedy.i am personally not affected because its been only a month since i started the game but i feel sorry for a lot of veteran players.usually when things like this happen its better to wait a few weeks if the devs really care about the game then they will fix this asap but if they are greedy they will just make the problem worse at that point it makes no sense in staying
To be honest, it's so hard to keep up with these games, because every update always have a new meta to kill another meta. As a F2P players i can't rush like these, this is torture, i need more time to farm some crystal. So, instead of build them, i'm just collecting it.
I dont know why people so unhappy about it. The situation quite same like before. U should expect it already. They will keep introduce more and more op unit. We still didnt get octo 2nd batch.
For me, it just make alec and celia back to their role. Celia should be god of debuff, and alec squishy 1hit killer. They are legendary unit and almost no one use them before.
Their resource from 2 year before was finish because octo, then alec op make them piss off cant catchup the rank.
I think people forgot how we save diamonds and scrolls so much before octo gacha released. That time no guarantee. Some people waste all resources for no octo at all when they released, include me lol. Because of that, i take a break for 1month.
What i want to say is no need rage quit. This thing will keep happening.
@@QQ-fp2em That's exactly the reason people are quitting their tired of it.
That's because u guys chase meta too much. Chill a bit. Observe first, wait 1-2 update before invest in meta unit. Some unit not affect too much from meta change and keep viable to use like yuri. From this update, we can say 100% def meta totally destroy with celia.
true, me too. since the alec celia out, i stop play B9 immediately and play other game
They Became greedy. Thats it.
"Games are meant to be enjoyed". Well said, Guitar. This game has not been enjoyable at the slightest for me. I don't feel rewarded for the time and resources I have spent on this game.
This make my good account turn into garbage, i build gran to +13, levia and lucy also closer to +12. Now they aren't that usefull anymore
Well, my Grand +8 with support from Refithea +15 managed to double suicide with Alec +15. Seto +9 also could do same.
So Alec isnt unbeatable but problem is we only could manage merc positioning in Guild War and Mystic Island. If we put our merc on line formation, we screwed.
Generally, I agree with everything you and other players said. When I started playing this game four month ago, I felt like this is one of best gacha games ever. Responsive devs, enganging gameplay and beautiful art.
Yet, powercreep and blitzkrieg style update with new meta destroy old meta too fast is pretty annoying.🤦
No wonder so many players ragequit. 😩
Welp, I will enjoy the game while it last. Not a whale and merely buy monthly package. Just a casual player 🤗
i always thought you are sponsored so u always didnt complain but finally man u did it. What you said in the entire video im sure all of us share the same sentiments with it. Idk how this game is gonna go i cant bear to quit but one thing for sure is i will no longer spend sm money on it
even if i stop playing this game when the last update made it absolutely trash...i still love this game a lot. and even if i stop playing it i wont unsub ur channel guitar.its the close to what i can get in brave nine after quiting...
I'm just going to throw my cecilia out there to buy some time like usual. Alec is still a squishy mercenary thank goodness. But anyways chasing meta will always lead to heartbreak in the long run tbh I'm going to stick with using my favorites. Hopefully the game doesn't die until hanya's companion comes out :(
For me I'll still play B9, it doesn't effect too much from me playing it, I'm always happy to open the game and see its art style it made me stay from and it's still fun (for me at least) doing pvp and GW when scouting I'm getting that adrenaline if a taunter moves first or an attack without buffs first even though my mercenaries are about half way at +7 or +11 I still think they're useful for me and might skillup them later on but rip if only I joined when b9 was global but ah well it's fine, on the thing that when there's a new merc I always try to get the ones that appeal to me, meta or not if they looks nice then I don't mind and just pull first day so fortunately the pulls for me for the time being isn't bad so that's another one that kept me staying, still love the game and will stay until whenever the game will be up for. Nice video btw!
I'm still learning ofc, there's some I don't know that makes me curious to learn it more, skills and such
Nothing wrong with milking a game before it dies when they already make so much from it.
Shut it down.
release another game to repeat a cycle.
WOAH THERE BUSTER NO SWEARING IN THIS CHRISTIAN MINECRAFT SEVER |
Even tho the update sucks ill still play brave nine/brown dust |
Wait who do i choose for the legend unit for the legend pulls now |
If i could choose only companions id do that
Epic gamer move : use gacha club for gacha battles P.S dont
We all need to stop spending money. They will listen to that. My whole guild is not spending due to this update. Fix the game or we leave for exos.
Yeah Exps, you know it boy!! Imma be playing both exos and Brave nine right now!