Quite the interesting conversation. Such high, and quite deserved praise for first Ella, Nat Cole, and Sinatra. And to have Cole Porter write songs for you??! Wow! What an honor.
Porter like Berlin as all song writers of the era...wrote for the movie with one exception...Fred Astaire....he was the guy that they wanted to sing their songs..not Sinatra and not Bing....
I like both Bing and Fred, though Bing did have the superior voice. But Fred was fun to listen to too, like in How Could You Believe Me etc. and I Left My Hat in Haiti from Royal Wedding.
He is so incredibly underrated these days. And it doesn't help when his estate keeps shelling out more pointless Christmas releases. But they know it sells, so it does makes sense. Wish there was more appreciation and presence of Bing in this modern age.
I like his Christmas songs just fine, especially the one he did with David Bowie. But he did do a lot of other really great stuff, like Now You Has Jazz from High Society, which he did with Louis Armstrong and a whole jazz ensemble. The number he did with Sinatra was great too. And in Holiday Inn, he even scatted on the I'll Capture Her Heart Singing routine.
Back when people conducted their business with class . They still had personal drama, addiction, rise & fall yet they gave respect to there public & tried to present themselves in their own classy way
To think 8 weeks after this date a certain 'shouter' called Elvis Presley was allowed on Ed's show. Purely for audience figures and not because he was respected or liked but EP gradually grew on them. Bing whatever his private life was about, was a class act on record and stage.
1.Louis Armstrong had more of a stage presence than Bing - BUT Bing was technically a better singer. 2.Armstrong was WAY more handsome than Bing - BUT Bing was the sharper dresser. 3.Armstrong had a captivating voice - BUT Bing had more sophisticated mannerisms. 4.Armstrong had better music knowledge than Bing - BUT Bing had better connections than Armstrong. 5.Armstrong was underated by Blacks - BUT Bing was overrated by Whites.
What evidence have you that this was scripted? I have absolutely no reasons to believe that Bing's responses were anything other than spontaneous and from the heart. Respectfully🙂🙂
They were talking over each other at times. Pretty hard to do if it were really scripted. Plus people had a more formal way of talking back then, even saying the other person's name in a sentence (i.e., "Well, Ed..."). My grandpa talked like that 😀
Sinatra by July 56 was in the process of reinventing pop music and pop records along with Nelson Riddle.....it must have been hard for Bing to admit that here though he handled it well..after softening the reality a bit by throwing in Ella and Nat first.....both on par singing live but far from Sinatra's recordings...
@@mefirstplease3676 - this lame doesn't know what he's talking about; he's just regurgitating recycled misinformation he read or heard. Sinatra got canned by Columbia in 1952 because they felt his singing, personal behavior, and market appeal had deteriorated. When he signed with Capitol in 1953, he brought Alex Stordahl with him and attempted to resuscitate his Columbia approach and success, but it failed. Capitol Records, I say again, Capitol Records, then helped Sinatra reinvent his singing approach (his Alex Stordahl Capitol records were not received well, so the "reinvention" was done out of necessity) by shifting Sinatra's approach more in the direction of its #1 selling artist, Nat King Cole. AGAINST SINATRA'S DESIRES, Nat King Cole's arranger of his chart-topping hits, Nelson Riddle, was assigned to replace Stordahl and top-level jazz musicians, such as trumpeter Harry "Sweets" Edison (Count Basie) and others, replaced Stordahl's session musicians. Riddle's new arrangements incorporated more sophisticated jazz rhythms and Sinatra had to shift his Columbia ballads singing style to a more jazz-like singing style (something he wasn't doing with Dorsey or Stordahl) in order to fit Riddle's more rhythmic arrangements. The Nat King Cole-like influence even followed Sinatra to Hollywood, where for the first time in his career in post-Capitol movies like "Young at Heart," "The Tender Trap," and others, Sinatra was staged singing and "playing" the piano - something Nat King Cole had nationally popularized as a Capitol artist. Sinatra did not play piano of course, but he was placed at the piano during this resuscitation period of his career as a nod to the success accomplished singing at the piano by Capitol's #1 record seller, Nat King Cole. "...reinventing pop music and pop records..." lol. sure, Mack.
he wasn't "throwing in Ella and Nat" clown. He named them 1st and 2nd for a reason....remember, you know nothing about singing compared to Bing. Nothing worse than a no-nothing Simp taking the words of arguably the best to ever do it, and trying to put your own spin interpretation of what was said. His words stand on their own. Get lost, amateur.
In case you're referring to the abuse claims, please let me kindly make you aware of the fact that they have long been debunked as lies made up for money.
Quite the interesting conversation. Such high, and quite deserved praise for first Ella, Nat Cole, and Sinatra. And to have Cole Porter write songs for you??! Wow! What an honor.
Porter like Berlin as all song writers of the era...wrote for the movie with one exception...Fred Astaire....he was the guy that they wanted to sing their songs..not Sinatra and not Bing....
@@jadezee6316
How wierd, as Astaire had a very weak, high-pitched and uncommercial singing voice.
Respectfully🙂🙂
I like both Bing and Fred, though Bing did have the superior voice. But Fred was fun to listen to too, like in How Could You Believe Me etc. and I Left My Hat in Haiti from Royal Wedding.
Thanks for sharing and showing this bit of Americana from the recent past with the iconic crooner Der Bingle “Bing Crosby”…👍!
Have a great day!
I agree 💯percent with you ❤ 0:21
That was cool. I loved his speaking voice as well as his singing. 😎💜
his kids got to hear a voice they wouldn't describe as loving....
He is so incredibly underrated these days. And it doesn't help when his estate keeps shelling out more pointless Christmas releases. But they know it sells, so it does makes sense. Wish there was more appreciation and presence of Bing in this modern age.
The mass public only hears his singing in the Christmas season. But TH-cam makes nearly everything he did available, so there's that.
I like his Christmas songs just fine, especially the one he did with David Bowie. But he did do a lot of other really great stuff, like Now You Has Jazz from High Society, which he did with Louis Armstrong and a whole jazz ensemble. The number he did with Sinatra was great too. And in Holiday Inn, he even scatted on the I'll Capture Her Heart Singing routine.
Back when people conducted their business with class . They still had personal drama, addiction, rise & fall yet they gave respect to there public & tried to present themselves in their own classy way
Bing was a fine singer. Smooth.
Ed Sullivan was very good at what he did. Notice how little Ed talks. He asks a short direct question then gets out of the way.
To think 8 weeks after this date a certain 'shouter' called Elvis Presley was allowed on Ed's show. Purely for audience figures and not because he was respected or liked but EP gradually grew on them. Bing whatever his private life was about, was a class act on record and stage.
Where can I find full episodes?
1.Louis Armstrong had more of a stage presence than Bing - BUT Bing was technically a better singer.
2.Armstrong was WAY more handsome than Bing - BUT Bing was the sharper dresser.
3.Armstrong had a captivating voice - BUT Bing had more sophisticated mannerisms.
4.Armstrong had better music knowledge than Bing - BUT Bing had better connections than Armstrong.
5.Armstrong was underated by Blacks - BUT Bing was overrated by Whites.
If you don't know this is scripted as Bing might say, your clean out boy!... still, good stuff!
What evidence have you that this was scripted?
I have absolutely no reasons to believe that Bing's responses were anything other than spontaneous and from the heart.
Respectfully🙂🙂
They were talking over each other at times. Pretty hard to do if it were really scripted. Plus people had a more formal way of talking back then, even saying the other person's name in a sentence (i.e., "Well, Ed..."). My grandpa talked like that 😀
@@mr.scottpowell That's right!
Sinatra by July 56 was in the process of reinventing pop music and pop records along with Nelson Riddle.....it must have been hard for Bing to admit that here though he handled it well..after softening the reality a bit by throwing in Ella and Nat first.....both on par singing live but far from Sinatra's recordings...
Define “reinventing”, because Riddle was with Cole before Sinatra so there and he arranged for other people around this time.
@@mefirstplease3676 - this lame doesn't know what he's talking about; he's just regurgitating recycled misinformation he read or heard. Sinatra got canned by Columbia in 1952 because they felt his singing, personal behavior, and market appeal had deteriorated. When he signed with Capitol in 1953, he brought Alex Stordahl with him and attempted to resuscitate his Columbia approach and success, but it failed.
Capitol Records, I say again, Capitol Records, then helped Sinatra reinvent his singing approach (his Alex Stordahl Capitol records were not received well, so the "reinvention" was done out of necessity) by shifting Sinatra's approach more in the direction of its #1 selling artist, Nat King Cole. AGAINST SINATRA'S DESIRES, Nat King Cole's arranger of his chart-topping hits, Nelson Riddle, was assigned to replace Stordahl and top-level jazz musicians, such as trumpeter Harry "Sweets" Edison (Count Basie) and others, replaced Stordahl's session musicians. Riddle's new arrangements incorporated more sophisticated jazz rhythms and Sinatra had to shift his Columbia ballads singing style to a more jazz-like singing style (something he wasn't doing with Dorsey or Stordahl) in order to fit Riddle's more rhythmic arrangements.
The Nat King Cole-like influence even followed Sinatra to Hollywood, where for the first time in his career in post-Capitol movies like "Young at Heart," "The Tender Trap," and others, Sinatra was staged singing and "playing" the piano - something Nat King Cole had nationally popularized as a Capitol artist. Sinatra did not play piano of course, but he was placed at the piano during this resuscitation period of his career as a nod to the success accomplished singing at the piano by Capitol's #1 record seller, Nat King Cole.
"...reinventing pop music and pop records..." lol. sure, Mack.
he wasn't "throwing in Ella and Nat" clown. He named them 1st and 2nd for a reason....remember, you know nothing about singing compared to Bing. Nothing worse than a no-nothing Simp taking the words of arguably the best to ever do it, and trying to put your own spin interpretation of what was said. His words stand on their own. Get lost, amateur.
Not a nice man
In case you're referring to the abuse claims, please let me kindly make you aware of the fact that they have long been debunked as lies made up for money.
What year is this?
@@BadScorpio About 1956