Watching now, I realised that all three of these guys underestimated Rich. You can hear them coming out defensively, raising their voices, and moving the goalposts constantly or presenting false dilemma arguments. We lost a lot when Rich died and now all we're left is with this.
As Dave denies bodybuilding drugs are bad for you at 22:38, there is an enormous poster behind him of Species sponsored athlete Mikhaila Soto who nearly died recently from multiple organ failure. #Irony
I know this is a 2 year old video but the debate about "can bodybuilding go more mainstream" is an interesting topic. Gym culture is now mainstream but getting covered in tan and posing in tiny trunks is an old fashioned, weird concept to most... So there's a cultural breakdown. The sport needs to re-format and progress. Repackage it to come in line with modern sportibg events. The elephant in the room is that major sponsors will not attach their name to a sport which is entirely And openly based on illegal steroid use. The ethics don't work.
I agree with you. The steroid stigma needs to be broken and I don't know if that's going to happen any time soon. Just look at the doping scandals the Russians are wrapped in right now and how much negativity that brings in the mainstream.
I watched this debate before, very disappointing with the questions. We could have learned alot from rich but they asked very silly questions none worth noting to be honest.
Different opinions is what makes an individual an individual.The fact is that these guys are completely different with only a small road of commonalities that are not only expressed but the individuals are thinking for themselves makes this not only a great but healthy debate.They respect others opinions and guard the beliefs they believe in ,so things will get heated and that's what its about ! Awesome work RxMuscle!
Wow palumbo was still a little jacked back in this video. Rich was looking great as well and aceto looked a lot younger. I appreciate Dave doing all of these videos over the year for all of us to rewatch and enjoy. God I miss rich and when Dave goes one day we will all miss him just as dearly and I want Dave to know now while he is here that we love him and how much he means to our community. I feel rich did not get told how much he was loved and how big of a deal he was to us. I wish we could have told rich how much he was loved and idolized before his short untimely death. Rip brother.
Smh wtf is wrong with the whole internet on this show? Rewatching years later because these two are legendary yet it’s almost unwatchable...they’re either frozen or muted half the time. RIP RICHIE THE REALEST
Chris being a little child and feeling offended when Rich asked if he already took steroids in his life. Replying that you could bench more than Rich shows how immature this man is. A child would do that…
Soooooo........ they ask everyone a general question. Mc Donalds or supplments. Rich answers the question reasonably then they change it and say only one item. Do you people even know how to debate?
Lol i love how these guys that are hating on Chris have no idea who he is, he's the mastermind behind the top elite athletes Cedric,Rhoden,,Raymond..and the list goes on.
Ofcourse it matters where the show is held! Back in the day the Olympia was held all over the world, but now its being held at some shoddy hotel to keep some chump change!
Supplements all the way, you can measure out your nutritional ratios, get digestive enzymes, etc. The advent of beef protein powders, waxy maize, different fats ie MCT's, CLA etc.
They do show bodybuilding lifestyle Ronnie Coleman Jay Cutler all those guys have shown day to day life its just a very niche audience that actually cares about it. Most people dont wanna look that gassed up as well.
I watch these old casts with Rich. I've met him before at the 2000 Arnold and he always kept it 100. I'm sorry after he passed away that ppl said he was fake or he hated dealing with fans. I'm nobody and at times I know I don't always feel like dealing with ppl !!!! Ppl don't understand how much that man did because he felt his fans wanted him to look a certain way. That was always what mattered to him most !!! And lastly, I poist this question to all the ppl that said he was fake. If he kept it 100 in all he said in these casts, how was he fake ? Just sayin....
around a little after the 57:00 minute mark Rich fucking nails it on setting up a proper bodybuilding competition.. extremely intelligent ideas and points
Yea I understand that they eat there but the video is saying that they eat the junk off the menu...Rich Piana had it right in the video that a bodybuilder could eat clean but they tried to change the question on him...If I was Pina I would not be a guest on their show again.
You can eat healthy at mcdonalds. If only mcdonalds for 2 months: 10x Asian Grilled Chicken Salad and 6x Fruit and Maple Oatmeal. Thats 300gPRO and 4000 kcal.
You can always eat mcdonalds best things like salads and just the meats without cheese maybe just the eggs from the egg white delight things like that. Better eating mcdonalds hands down.
Rich did raise a good point about roid rage in that it can, like recreational drugs, do things out of character or things that you could say alter your mind, just look at Bertil Fox who comitted a double murder, crystal meth which is a recreational drug can also make people violent so there are similarities there between recreational drugs and steroids
I do agree wtih Rich about most superheros in Hollywood. Pathetic.. But what about Hugh Jackman? Has a good dead lift and bench and looks ripped. Also Chris Hemsworth in the first Thor was very built. Both of these stars are much taller than Rich.
This just goes to show you all the guys mentioned and that are on this episode that are known in the industry and I just want ppl to realize that haters really jhave no place in the world at ALL!!! There is room for anyone willing to carve out their place in this industry. Whether it's online like Rich did with 5% or COHOES training ppl. Chris with his world class coaching. Dave with his supps & shows. Branch as a competitor. If you can find your stride. You can do well for yourself. No reason to hate others for doing their thing
Rich answered the first question perfect they switched the question so bad on him lol... He just out smarted them
The Best Clips Indeed. They moved the goal posts as soon as he scored. Pretty weak of them.
The Best Clips 😂😂
Dave copied riches answer
Rich was that entertaining you forget how smart he was. RIP Rich.
He was really fucking dumb. That’s why he’s dead numbnuts.
@@IndoorHydroponix 🤣🤣🤣 too soon
Walked away to get a glass of water, came back.. intro still playing..
Rich is the man! He destroyed from the first question!
Rich was a smart dude, entertaining as well, but much smarter than people realise. RIP Mr. Piana.
Much shorter too
@annon # free Hong kong
He wasnt smart sniffing preworkout and taking so much amount of the productos he sold mny with lot of caffeine on It. Plus whatever he was taking
He was really fucking dumb. That’s why he’s dead numbnuts.
Obviously not that smart putting all that shit in his body
Hahaha, Aceto's face. Dude looks legit butt-hurt like a petulant schoolboy.
I think Piani should host next time ... and run for President of the United States.
R I.P Rich
Watching now, I realised that all three of these guys underestimated Rich. You can hear them coming out defensively, raising their voices, and moving the goalposts constantly or presenting false dilemma arguments. We lost a lot when Rich died and now all we're left is with this.
Why is M. Night Shyamalan moderating this?
Rich was so smart, even smarter than aceto and palumbo. RIP rich
So smart that he killed himself with what he was doing
Business wise yes
Not so smart is he being fkn dead ??
He was really fucking dumb. That’s why he’s dead numbnuts.
Dead smart
Rich: "Have you ever taken steriods"
I lost my fucking shit
ITS SHAKE TIME GOD DAMN IT 💪 RIP BIG RICH PIANA
😪
It’s soon to be shake time goddamit!
As Dave denies bodybuilding drugs are bad for you at 22:38, there is an enormous poster behind him of Species sponsored athlete Mikhaila Soto who nearly died recently from multiple organ failure. #Irony
LMAO Rich fucked shit up that first question!!!!!
Chris Lookin ridiculous man hahha what the hell is he doin with that hat lol I'm dyin over here Jesus man
Holy shit, the into screen goes on for over a minute and a half.
Loving the debates! Keep them coming!
Damn I miss Rich... How could you not miss that guy!!
Rich got solid points
RICH PIANA ARE THE MAN he is honest real food is better than suplements and hamburguer can be danger
Draw prize at the end winner gets to punch Chris aceto in the face lol
Omg not just me then who thinks he's got one (of those faces)
Does aceto even lift!?!?
Joseph Kony Used to look pretty good. Google him
Joseph Kony Oh and he´s the best nutritionist in the world.
Joseph Kony He does and you can tell. Is he as big as Rich Piana? No. Two different things.
Diamhea I googled Aceto but I only got vinegar.
People, this is hands down the most disgusting industry u could fathom.....Run!!!!!
I think bodybuilding should have an aesthetics division and a big as fuck division.
it does
You've gotten your wish! 👋😉👍
Gotta get Rich vs. Loyd in the future
Krishna Bakshi lolol
Rich was killing it, in this debate
Miss watching Rich. He was always entertaining and informative.
Palumbo, your dimples are in wrong spots. Move them down and a little to the outside
We miss you Rich in 2020 RIP!
Lol the aceto guy has no idea what he's talking about 😂 it's sad
my man rich killed it
#5%4life
"I misunderstood the question, I just thought he was comparing me to Ronnie Coleman" XD XD That was great, I miss Rich.
Go take 500mgs of tren for 12 weeks. lol mind altering for sure
Rich absolutely dogwalked everyone here, miss you big guy
I dont like the personal beef. The Debate should be more professional in my opinion
Sadiq Farouki still hasn’t worked out since
Joining the show
I know this is a 2 year old video but the debate about "can bodybuilding go more mainstream" is an interesting topic.
Gym culture is now mainstream but getting covered in tan and posing in tiny trunks is an old fashioned, weird concept to most... So there's a cultural breakdown. The sport needs to re-format and progress. Repackage it to come in line with modern sportibg events.
The elephant in the room is that major sponsors will not attach their name to a sport which is entirely And openly based on illegal steroid use. The ethics don't work.
I agree with you.
The steroid stigma needs to be broken and I don't know if that's going to happen any time soon. Just look at the doping scandals the Russians are wrapped in right now and how much negativity that brings in the mainstream.
I agree, getting in a speedo and squeezing the butt cheeks in front of folks is pretty weird IMO. And men's BB is akin to female beauty pageants.
as long as drugs are involved in the sport of BB it will never go main stream.
I watched this debate before, very disappointing with the questions. We could have learned alot from rich but they asked very silly questions none worth noting to be honest.
Different opinions is what makes an individual an individual.The fact is that these guys are completely different with only a small road of commonalities that are not only expressed but the individuals are thinking for themselves makes this not only a great but healthy debate.They respect others opinions and guard the beliefs they believe in ,so things will get heated and that's what its about ! Awesome work RxMuscle!
Wow palumbo was still a little jacked back in this video. Rich was looking great as well and aceto looked a lot younger. I appreciate Dave doing all of these videos over the year for all of us to rewatch and enjoy. God I miss rich and when Dave goes one day we will all miss him just as dearly and I want Dave to know now while he is here that we love him and how much he means to our community. I feel rich did not get told how much he was loved and how big of a deal he was to us. I wish we could have told rich how much he was loved and idolized before his short untimely death. Rip brother.
This is why we loved Rich. Made all these guys look like morons. R.I.P
Smh wtf is wrong with the whole internet on this show? Rewatching years later because these two are legendary yet it’s almost unwatchable...they’re either frozen or muted half the time.
RIP RICHIE THE REALEST
Dave is spot on. The internet has given bodybuilders the platform to showcase their personalities.
Nice audio. Can’t even here most of this. Good job guys. Great Equipment Back then.
Whats wrong with the volume??
Chris being a little child and feeling offended when Rich asked if he already took steroids in his life. Replying that you could bench more than Rich shows how immature this man is. A child would do that…
Soooooo........ they ask everyone a general question. Mc Donalds or supplments. Rich answers the question reasonably then they change it and say only one item.
Do you people even know how to debate?
I enjoy Dave and rich they both straight up about what they know... much respect.. R.i.p Rich gone way to soon
Dave your a legend these shows are amazing keep making them
Flashforward to 2018 with the McDonalds guy that took the supersize me challenge but worked out and made gains
Rich the best !
Imagine arguing that protein powder is better than chicken. Wtf.
Lol i love how these guys that are hating on Chris have no idea who he is, he's the mastermind behind the top elite athletes Cedric,Rhoden,,Raymond..and the list goes on.
Joel Tejeda Right, these guys were just the influx of Piana fans who don't follow the sport.
Chris is a little bitch
Holy shit the connection on this Skype call was ass.
Ofcourse it matters where the show is held! Back in the day the Olympia was held all over the world, but now its being held at some shoddy hotel to keep some chump change!
Lol the host is such a dweeb , where did dave find this guy
RIP Rich
Love this debate...
Reality show for bodybuilding seems like an incredible idea to take the sport more mainstream
A fish fillet is 400 calories...
0
mmmmmm
Dakota Librescu add tarter add 200
Rich tore em a new one!! 💪🏻👍💪🏻👍💪🏻
Great show, rich needs to be on another one
You can't re frame the question 😂😂
Damn!!! aceto got owned by rich lmao
Supplements all the way, you can measure out your nutritional ratios, get digestive enzymes, etc. The advent of beef protein powders, waxy maize, different fats ie MCT's, CLA etc.
Dude wouldn't stop interrupting Rich
Yeah the first question was completely loaded.
They do show bodybuilding lifestyle Ronnie Coleman Jay Cutler all those guys have shown day to day life its just a very niche audience that actually cares about it. Most people dont wanna look that gassed up as well.
I watch these old casts with Rich. I've met him before at the 2000 Arnold and he always kept it 100. I'm sorry after he passed away that ppl said he was fake or he hated dealing with fans. I'm nobody and at times I know I don't always feel like dealing with ppl !!!! Ppl don't understand how much that man did because he felt his fans wanted him to look a certain way. That was always what mattered to him most !!! And lastly, I poist this question to all the ppl that said he was fake. If he kept it 100 in all he said in these casts, how was he fake ? Just sayin....
around a little after the 57:00 minute mark Rich fucking nails it on setting up a proper bodybuilding competition.. extremely intelligent ideas and points
This Pakistani or Indian looking dude been on Dave Palumbo's payroll for awhile now i have noticed
What bodybuilder would go to Mc D's and just choose the junk food on the menu...? ~IWT
Yea I understand that they eat there but the video is saying that they eat the junk off the menu...Rich Piana had it right in the video that a bodybuilder could eat clean but they tried to change the question on him...If I was Pina I would not be a guest on their show again.
Strong Bear It was hypothetical...
Aceto is a nothing from nowhere going noplace. Piana is a celebrity in this little strange industry and is laughing all the way to the bank
Because they're on pharm grade Insulin, GH and custom peptides, 5-8 thousand cals a day with chicken and rice? No fuckin' way.
You can eat healthy at mcdonalds. If only mcdonalds for 2 months: 10x Asian Grilled Chicken Salad and 6x Fruit and Maple Oatmeal. Thats 300gPRO and 4000 kcal.
Finally rich is on! sweet.
"They are not mind altering" "they make you feel good"
DAVE!! Why was this Battle Royale never coordinated?? I'm watching this in 2017 and it has me amped up.
everyone but rich doesn't seem to bright in this
Hello everybody! Welcome to RAW IS WAR!!!! R.I.P Big guy miss your content 👊
Rich killed that series off
Damn I miss Rich
Man Dave you looked good here!
Hard to believe all the deaths since this
You can always eat mcdonalds best things like salads and just the meats without cheese maybe just the eggs from the egg white delight things like that. Better eating mcdonalds hands down.
chris could never squat 500 for 12 reps. lol quarter squats dont count.
Yes, just rattling the weights don't count
He meant 12lbs for 500 reps
In the video, Aceto looks like Bernie Sanders lost son. lol
First time hearing rich talk and he seems like a rationale being
Rich did raise a good point about roid rage in that it can, like recreational drugs, do things out of character or things that you could say alter your mind, just look at Bertil Fox who comitted a double murder, crystal meth which is a recreational drug can also make people violent so there are similarities there between recreational drugs and steroids
Rich is on point
Intro music wasnt long enough
I do agree wtih Rich about most superheros in Hollywood. Pathetic.. But what about Hugh Jackman? Has a good dead lift and bench and looks ripped. Also Chris Hemsworth in the first Thor was very built. Both of these stars are much taller than Rich.
Before Dave became Skelotor
This just goes to show you all the guys mentioned and that are on this episode that are known in the industry and I just want ppl to realize that haters really jhave no place in the world at ALL!!!
There is room for anyone willing to carve out their place in this industry. Whether it's online like Rich did with 5% or COHOES training ppl. Chris with his world class coaching. Dave with his supps & shows. Branch as a competitor. If you can find your stride. You can do well for yourself. No reason to hate others for doing their thing
Rich was a bad ass 3 years ago. He seems a lot more low key these days. How come?
Shadowboxe Well, we know now...
let's see the techs pics of him back in his prime
How is this almost 10 years ago my god
Holy crap who are these young bucks? Chris and Dave are babies!
Gotta love this guy rich lmao
Rich 'synthol' Piana greatest natural bodybuilder of all time.....
Badwy Sassine 3rd. Bostin and Dallas were 1 & 2
Piana is exactly right
I love the idea of seeing Piana in a ring against another huge Bodybuilder