We save the cruel and ruthless Draconis Combine from the cruel and ruthless Smoke Jaguar.........cheers??? Anyways, definitely looking forward to getting this game. Still recall good memories playing Mechwarrior 2. I learn clan names for mech first, only learn Inner Sphere names after. Alway be the TimberWolf to me.
The thing is the Combine we see today is not the same that was leading them during the early stages of the succession wars. Plus the smoke jaguar were also getting quite brute with their approach.
Doesn't matter if you choose to go warden or crusader path in the game. Story was already written thirty years ago and is set in stone, Smoke jag and Nova Cat still get pushed out of Luthien. In the warden path your more so allied with Wolfs Dragoons merc company rather than House Kurita.
Thrustmaster's HOTAS is modeled after the thunderbolt II flight stick, mounting socket was also modeled after the later versions of the locking collar. That being said Battletech is late mid to late 80's retro futurism, it fits. (More than likely it was a stock asset they had, either from UE5 or out of MSFT lib from Asobo). Real irony is if you actually try to use that stick in MWO you're pretty much guaranteed to be hard stuck in T5 :P.
I was hoping the second half would be facing Perez or your other former superior. Solidifying that tou're no longer a clanner and everyone is trying to arrogantly take you down only turned to horror on just how tough tou are.
i never knew there were to ending i just picked to help MIia cuz i i liked being with the clan instead of running away like Ezra did (Spoilers) like i knew you can pick to go with Ezra when picking what side to go with but never knew there were two ending in MW5 Clans
You went in with your guys not even on full health and still won 😭😭 this has to be on story mode. The best I can do on normal is getting 3 nearly dead mechs to the area just before the dropship to get killed by the warhawk. It's so mean that there's no ammo refills in this level
Yeah, this was on story mode after I lowered the difficulty during the mission where you fought that bullet spongy Sokol. I'm replaying it on higher difficutly now while actually investing more time in outfitting the mechs myself and I have to say it makes great difference. The ammo shortage can be circumvented by using energy weapons. ER Lasers are great choice - I'm using them in many builds and the damage output is enormous.
@damsonn i got right to the end on normal but had to lower it for this mission. Can't believe how close I was. I might try again on normal with lasers, i just couldn't resist the ac20s 😂
Not at all surprised that Mia chose bondsref; not only is she fully-indoctrinated into the Crusader philosophy, those Enhanced Imaging implants couldn't have helped her questionable sanity and/or objectivity at all, either. Clanner 'culture' is utter trash, on-the-whole; even the 'nice' ones such as the Ghost Bears (mostly friendly, but kinda clingy :p) or the Diamond Sharks (most egalitarian towards their non-Warriors) are still far too alien. The Wardens aren't that much better; Ulric Kerensky never intended to fight *alongside* the Inner Sphere _as equals_ , but as 'benevolent protectors / parental figures who know best / better than any of you'... In other words, an even more sanctimonious version of House Davion's 'Father Knows Best' philosophy, only backed by a beyond-Star League-tier tech base and a Warrior caste than demands obedience from their non-Warriors, or else. I am not joking nor exaggerating; see how the Coyotes and or Steel Vipers treat their freeborn and/or non-Warriors, both of whom are ostensibly Warden, or the Cloud Cobras who massacred at least one of the Tanite worlds' populace. Still see the Smoke Jaguars as the near-absolute worst-of-the-worst, though some are even worse... leaving out any further elaboration for another time.
The Kerensky Clans are peak German philosophy (Marx, Nietzsche, and a few others) plus the mad ravings of Nicholas (Alexander was sane by comparison). He destroyed civilization and created the true meaning of utopia (should look up Thomas More's book that make the term). They are the paragons of collectivism and really should be looked into as the future plans for a certain group of people in power now in the US.
Mia's voice lines sound like she was in some sort of echo chamber away from all the other voice actors. Why does it sound such bad quality? its jarring
Voice acting was good, but her character writing was a bit self contradicting. Constantly talking about the clan ways and honor but then goes out with dishonor by ignoring the tradition of bondsman and bondref. I guess you could just chop it up to the EI scrambling her brains.
@@MrTBSCthat's kinda sad , I wonder if we'll see a career mode added in a dlc? Or more story dlc , especially with an ending like this showing that there are still battles with the clans to have.
It might use the same engine and assets but this is a full new game. the environments alone feel nothing alike compared to the procedurally generated flat boring worlds of mercenaries. if you knew anything about the series you would know this has been done with two other titles just in the other direction.
That writing is extremely rough. Clearly PGI's writers never took a course on writing for the screen. Just walls and walls of nonstop chatter that should have been trimmed down. I'm also still not over how Clan warriors are being portrayed as having basically Judeo-Christian ethics (killing is wrong, killing civilians is wrong even if they fought against warriors which is a cardinal sin in Clan society and is always met with brutal repression and has been for hundreds of years, etc.) even though they were, you know, raised in a society in which those values simply do not exist. The hardest thing about writing characters from different cultures is putting your own cultural baggage aside, and PGI's writers just couldn't do it. And Edo wasn't genocide at all. No one was trying to exterminate the Kuritan race. It was a punitive strike against civilians in collective punishment for Yakuza resistance. Clanners, who are very sensitive about things like genetics and genocide, would know the difference and not just use "genocide" as a catch-all term for killing some people.
Did the entire city of Edo stand against them, did every citizen grab a gun and start fighting back? No they did not, most tried to find shelter when the metal behemoths starts fighting each-other. I'm pretty sure that few are calling it a genocide, as it is not that. But it is an indiscriminate bombardment of an civilian target. It is using military force against non-combatants. It is killing children en masse for events they had no control over. It is precisely the the sort of "inner sphere tyranny" that they condemn. With that sort of attitude the only reason that Clan Smoke Jaguar has not committed the same sort of heinous acts as they condemn House Kurita for committing is not that they don't have it in them, it's merely a question of time until they do it. Extermination of an entire city and the one responsible for it is merely demoted (but still holding a pretty high rank) and "shunned", though apparently still able to gather a power-base around him with Clanners who agree with his actions.
"raised in a society in which those values simply do not exist." Just a little FYI here, this is wrong. Even Clans have lines drawn, Dietr Osis and the rest of the clans were also disgusted with what the Jaguars have been doing. Osis himself challenged Perez because of his actions. The basis some of their culture, like batchalls and such (originally anyway) were to reduce casualties and material lost. This was twisted over time but some of those ideas are still there.
What the hell are you talking about? lol Stop this "leftist" BS and putting your political views into this. If you actually read the lore, they weren't the only ones in the clans who thought what SJ was doing was wrong.
I can't beat the mission before this the ai is too god damn fucking awful, I'm ready to uninstall the game, can't even find any video on anyone else completing it.
Haha you need to properly outfit your mechs. Remember how clan wolf was the best clan cause they favored energy load outs well you need to do the same here.
I did the penultimate mission on normal difficulty if it's the one where you defend the base it wasn't too bad. Go light on ammo and fill up on armour, there's plenty off ammo refills on the map. Stay in the base and defend the generators. Each one you save gives you a mechbay. I equipped my mech for very short range brawling, ac20s and srms I think. If you can get behind mechs it's usually just 2 or 3 shots to kill but it burns through ammo so fast it's not really feasible in any other mission
this game made me realize, I do not care what so ever for Battletech lore. All I want is the mechs, the mech lab, and the explosions. I really couldnt care less about the characters, the different clans, the different IS houses. made me decide not to buy, as I do not play mechwarrior games for the lore. I rather have tons of mods, and a career mode tyvm.
Its not. Clanners don't speak with contractions. Its considered imprecise, rude and shows you are uneducated. Its a little hard to get used to but lore accurate and was a really nice touch.
Okay (ignoring contractions like "quiaff" "aff" and "neg") but what about intonation and various emphases? The writers did good with the story, but the voice actors and scriptwriters together didn't do as well. I'm okay with it but I think most non-mech-enthusiasts aren't@@Razor1rot
@@hobog Those aren't contractions, they are military abbreviations and slurs. Compound words, not contractions. I get it that this is something that was off putting to people and most don't understand it was deliberate and the result is thinking its bad voice acting. the reality is it was a really deep piece of attention to detail that most people missed in the story even though they called attention to it several times with Liam's character and then Ezra's character later on. Thankfully the people who made this game were BattleTech enthusiasts and made this game for BattleTech enthusiasts. The rest can pound sand. Opinions don't matter when you don't understand the reasons why. Then its just a gut reaction.
I'm just amused that they chose to rep Smoke Jaguar. Of all the clans they tried to humanize THEM? That's hilarious. Even more so when the only way we recognize the good guys is when they BETRAY the clan. Like, 20 clans and THIS is the one they made an expansion for? LOL.
If you do not have Mechwarrior 5 MERCS I suggest getting that over this. That game has tons of mods, and a career mode you can play after beating the game that give hundreds or thousands of hours of play time. The mech roaster is also better, and you can also MOD in TONS of mechs. Every mech in MW5 CLANS into MW5 MERCS. This game has a better story, but if you are not into the lore, or story, and just want stompy mechs, i really suggest MW5 Mercs. Then later, if this game gets mods and or dlc you can get it on sale
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For all the story cutscenes (main branch + Ezra's path) go here: th-cam.com/video/f03xYHd6kkY/w-d-xo.html
We save the cruel and ruthless Draconis Combine from the cruel and ruthless Smoke Jaguar.........cheers???
Anyways, definitely looking forward to getting this game. Still recall good memories playing Mechwarrior 2. I learn clan names for mech first, only learn Inner Sphere names after. Alway be the TimberWolf to me.
Trust me the citizens of the combine would have it worse under smoke jaguar then the combine
The thing is the Combine we see today is not the same that was leading them during the early stages of the succession wars. Plus the smoke jaguar were also getting quite brute with their approach.
Well it's really we save the entire inner sphere not just kurita, because if Kurita falls then Terra would fall short after
Doesn't matter if you choose to go warden or crusader path in the game. Story was already written thirty years ago and is set in stone, Smoke jag and Nova Cat still get pushed out of Luthien. In the warden path your more so allied with Wolfs Dragoons merc company rather than House Kurita.
35:15 even in the 31st century, they still use Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog sticks with their signature mounting nuts. :)
@@theeltea Thrustmaster is the OG Clan Tech apparently 😉
Why change perfection?
Thrustmaster's HOTAS is modeled after the thunderbolt II flight stick, mounting socket was also modeled after the later versions of the locking collar. That being said Battletech is late mid to late 80's retro futurism, it fits. (More than likely it was a stock asset they had, either from UE5 or out of MSFT lib from Asobo). Real irony is if you actually try to use that stick in MWO you're pretty much guaranteed to be hard stuck in T5 :P.
Appreciate you posting this so quickly
When clanners lose, everyone wins, including the clans lol
So they have the balls to use the Black Widow's and not have the black widow herself Natasha Kerensky herself in this! Heresy
Natasha at this point returned to Clan Wolf and functioned as Khan when Ulric became IlKhan.
Makes sense but yeah, a shame.
She is just salty she and the bounty hunter got their asses handed to them by a highlander in the periphery that she leaves /jk
I was hoping the second half would be facing Perez or your other former superior. Solidifying that tou're no longer a clanner and everyone is trying to arrogantly take you down only turned to horror on just how tough tou are.
It actually does - in one of the missions after you defect you fight Cordera Perez.
i never knew there were to ending i just picked to help MIia cuz i i liked being with the clan instead of running away like Ezra did (Spoilers) like i knew you can pick to go with Ezra when picking what side to go with but never knew there were two ending in MW5 Clans
This fight is a Star (5 mechs) vs a Cluster (30 to 75 mechs)? o.O
Next DLC: Wolfpath
Give me Ghost Bear Destiny and I will for once support Piranha. Once
I prefer Wolf's Dragoons DLC & Clan Nova Cat DLC come first
@@rh906LOL aren't you picky asf
You went in with your guys not even on full health and still won 😭😭 this has to be on story mode. The best I can do on normal is getting 3 nearly dead mechs to the area just before the dropship to get killed by the warhawk. It's so mean that there's no ammo refills in this level
Yeah, this was on story mode after I lowered the difficulty during the mission where you fought that bullet spongy Sokol. I'm replaying it on higher difficutly now while actually investing more time in outfitting the mechs myself and I have to say it makes great difference. The ammo shortage can be circumvented by using energy weapons. ER Lasers are great choice - I'm using them in many builds and the damage output is enormous.
@damsonn i got right to the end on normal but had to lower it for this mission. Can't believe how close I was. I might try again on normal with lasers, i just couldn't resist the ac20s 😂
@damsonn i did it, only lost 2 legs. All energy weapons, the 5 er ppc build was my favourite
Not at all surprised that Mia chose bondsref; not only is she fully-indoctrinated into the Crusader philosophy, those Enhanced Imaging implants couldn't have helped her questionable sanity and/or objectivity at all, either.
Clanner 'culture' is utter trash, on-the-whole; even the 'nice' ones such as the Ghost Bears (mostly friendly, but kinda clingy :p) or the Diamond Sharks (most egalitarian towards their non-Warriors) are still far too alien.
The Wardens aren't that much better; Ulric Kerensky never intended to fight *alongside* the Inner Sphere _as equals_ , but as 'benevolent protectors / parental figures who know best / better than any of you'...
In other words, an even more sanctimonious version of House Davion's 'Father Knows Best' philosophy, only backed by a beyond-Star League-tier tech base and a Warrior caste than demands obedience from their non-Warriors, or else.
I am not joking nor exaggerating; see how the Coyotes and or Steel Vipers treat their freeborn and/or non-Warriors, both of whom are ostensibly Warden, or the Cloud Cobras who massacred at least one of the Tanite worlds' populace.
Still see the Smoke Jaguars as the near-absolute worst-of-the-worst, though some are even worse... leaving out any further elaboration for another time.
The Kerensky Clans are peak German philosophy (Marx, Nietzsche, and a few others) plus the mad ravings of Nicholas (Alexander was sane by comparison). He destroyed civilization and created the true meaning of utopia (should look up Thomas More's book that make the term). They are the paragons of collectivism and really should be looked into as the future plans for a certain group of people in power now in the US.
I wonder if there will be a Turkayyid DLC. With how much shit we face during every mission, that'd be something.
Mia's voice lines sound like she was in some sort of echo chamber away from all the other voice actors. Why does it sound such bad quality? its jarring
Likely recorded on skype.
I'd feel bad for Mia's death if her voice actress actually tried to sound like she gave a damn.
Voice acting was good, but her character writing was a bit self contradicting. Constantly talking about the clan ways and honor but then goes out with dishonor by ignoring the tradition of bondsman and bondref. I guess you could just chop it up to the EI scrambling her brains.
Is there an open world sandbox like after the story line ?
I hope so or at least some replayability
no sandbox
@@sweetthins1946you have the ability to replay the missions in the simbox with irrc additional challenges but that's about it i think
@@MrTBSCthat's kinda sad , I wonder if we'll see a career mode added in a dlc? Or more story dlc , especially with an ending like this showing that there are still battles with the clans to have.
@@ericcollins1497 I expect story DLC
Heh, how predictable. One more betrayal, they really can not make a story without this cliche
The cool thing is that you don't have to betray the clan. It's your choice - there are 2 paths available. I didn't tried the 2nd one yet.
The story path is set in stone. Not much story telling without going sane and becoming a Warden with how the Smokies were fighting.
@@rh906well aside from role playing the indoctrinated psychopaths of smoke jaguar crusaders
thanks for sharing this. Wish we'd gotten a full on new MW game instead of a MW5 update.
@@Burningwithecstasy I played MW 5 Mercenaries and this feels like a proper new game.
It might use the same engine and assets but this is a full new game. the environments alone feel nothing alike compared to the procedurally generated flat boring worlds of mercenaries. if you knew anything about the series you would know this has been done with two other titles just in the other direction.
@@Razor1rot Its not the same engine. They updated to UE5, Mercs is UE4
bro its a new game. Dont be mistaken because this game is called MW5 too. Even game engine is different. And unlike Mercs this has story.
@@fistan5447 if it was a new game, it wouldbe MW6. They purposely called it MW5.
The voice "acting" is so bad😅
That writing is extremely rough. Clearly PGI's writers never took a course on writing for the screen. Just walls and walls of nonstop chatter that should have been trimmed down.
I'm also still not over how Clan warriors are being portrayed as having basically Judeo-Christian ethics (killing is wrong, killing civilians is wrong even if they fought against warriors which is a cardinal sin in Clan society and is always met with brutal repression and has been for hundreds of years, etc.) even though they were, you know, raised in a society in which those values simply do not exist. The hardest thing about writing characters from different cultures is putting your own cultural baggage aside, and PGI's writers just couldn't do it.
And Edo wasn't genocide at all. No one was trying to exterminate the Kuritan race. It was a punitive strike against civilians in collective punishment for Yakuza resistance. Clanners, who are very sensitive about things like genetics and genocide, would know the difference and not just use "genocide" as a catch-all term for killing some people.
Did the entire city of Edo stand against them, did every citizen grab a gun and start fighting back?
No they did not, most tried to find shelter when the metal behemoths starts fighting each-other.
I'm pretty sure that few are calling it a genocide, as it is not that. But it is an indiscriminate bombardment of an civilian target. It is using military force against non-combatants. It is killing children en masse for events they had no control over. It is precisely the the sort of "inner sphere tyranny" that they condemn. With that sort of attitude the only reason that Clan Smoke Jaguar has not committed the same sort of heinous acts as they condemn House Kurita for committing is not that they don't have it in them, it's merely a question of time until they do it. Extermination of an entire city and the one responsible for it is merely demoted (but still holding a pretty high rank) and "shunned", though apparently still able to gather a power-base around him with Clanners who agree with his actions.
"raised in a society in which those values simply do not exist."
Just a little FYI here, this is wrong. Even Clans have lines drawn, Dietr Osis and the rest of the clans were also disgusted with what the Jaguars have been doing. Osis himself challenged Perez because of his actions.
The basis some of their culture, like batchalls and such (originally anyway) were to reduce casualties and material lost. This was twisted over time but some of those ideas are still there.
Fantastic, either go with the leftist "right side of history" -man or simp for Mia, can I make my reactor go critical instead?
I played in character; Clan Star Commander won't left his post, LMAO.. of course I simped. :D
What the hell are you talking about? lol Stop this "leftist" BS and putting your political views into this.
If you actually read the lore, they weren't the only ones in the clans who thought what SJ was doing was wrong.
I can't beat the mission before this the ai is too god damn fucking awful, I'm ready to uninstall the game, can't even find any video on anyone else completing it.
@@JSpark135 you need to micro manage your star, also try lowering the difficulty to "story mode" if you hadn't done so already. It's doable.
I honestly had to switch from hard to story mode on the final arc. It got to the point where it was almost RNG to win with more than 24% left.
Haha you need to properly outfit your mechs. Remember how clan wolf was the best clan cause they favored energy load outs well you need to do the same here.
I did the penultimate mission on normal difficulty if it's the one where you defend the base it wasn't too bad. Go light on ammo and fill up on armour, there's plenty off ammo refills on the map. Stay in the base and defend the generators. Each one you save gives you a mechbay. I equipped my mech for very short range brawling, ac20s and srms I think. If you can get behind mechs it's usually just 2 or 3 shots to kill but it burns through ammo so fast it's not really feasible in any other mission
this game made me realize, I do not care what so ever for Battletech lore. All I want is the mechs, the mech lab, and the explosions. I really couldnt care less about the characters, the different clans, the different IS houses. made me decide not to buy, as I do not play mechwarrior games for the lore. I rather have tons of mods, and a career mode tyvm.
*Reads* Ahhhh, modern American right here. The lack of grammar and spelling is telling.
Congrats, you're a tiny minority.
@@rh906 "Hehe, big robot go boom."
The weapons don't do any damage uninstall this sucks ill play the old one
Wow, the voice acting is AWFUL
Its not. Clanners don't speak with contractions. Its considered imprecise, rude and shows you are uneducated. Its a little hard to get used to but lore accurate and was a really nice touch.
Cordova Perez is the one that bugs me. He kinda lets out an accent partway through and someone thought we wouldn't notice.
Okay (ignoring contractions like "quiaff" "aff" and "neg") but what about intonation and various emphases? The writers did good with the story, but the voice actors and scriptwriters together didn't do as well. I'm okay with it but I think most non-mech-enthusiasts aren't@@Razor1rot
@@hobog in a contraction the omitted letters are replaced by an apostrophe. Clan terminology uses compounds/portmanteau's not contractions.
@@hobog Those aren't contractions, they are military abbreviations and slurs. Compound words, not contractions. I get it that this is something that was off putting to people and most don't understand it was deliberate and the result is thinking its bad voice acting. the reality is it was a really deep piece of attention to detail that most people missed in the story even though they called attention to it several times with Liam's character and then Ezra's character later on. Thankfully the people who made this game were BattleTech enthusiasts and made this game for BattleTech enthusiasts. The rest can pound sand. Opinions don't matter when you don't understand the reasons why. Then its just a gut reaction.
I don´t really know if I should get it or not.. it looks nice but the clan stuff is also so cringy in its pathos
The gameplay is great, I never was really into the MW lore (I know some basic concepts), but enjoyed the story presented in this game.
Freebirth nonsense
Dezgra!
I'm just amused that they chose to rep Smoke Jaguar. Of all the clans they tried to humanize THEM? That's hilarious. Even more so when the only way we recognize the good guys is when they BETRAY the clan. Like, 20 clans and THIS is the one they made an expansion for? LOL.
If you do not have Mechwarrior 5 MERCS I suggest getting that over this. That game has tons of mods, and a career mode you can play after beating the game that give hundreds or thousands of hours of play time. The mech roaster is also better, and you can also MOD in TONS of mechs. Every mech in MW5 CLANS into MW5 MERCS.
This game has a better story, but if you are not into the lore, or story, and just want stompy mechs, i really suggest MW5 Mercs.
Then later, if this game gets mods and or dlc you can get it on sale