OF COURSE ! he is ... read his Wikipedia entry... he is LITERALLY the *descendant of people who **_planned, executed & hid_* the MASSACRE "Robert J. LaFortune, the mayor of Tulsa from 1970 through 1978, is Bynum's grandfather. Bynum's uncle, Bill LaFortune, served as mayor from 2002 to 2006. Bynum is a great-great-grandson of Robert Newton Bynum, who served as mayor from 1899 to 1900" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._T._Bynum#Personal_life
The Mayor and whoever is in control is full of bovine excrement. They just do not want to recognize or compensate blacks for anything thing done to them even when you can prove that is fair and just. They just say "the people living now didn't do it so they shouldn't be penalized" while those "nonpenalized" people are enjoying the benefit of the murder and displacement of those people who were massacred by the ancestors of many of those people. Ridiculous hypocrisy.
@@1NavyLT You are absolutely right; the reporter did not ask the right question when he said that the current Tulsans did not commit this crime; the follow up question should have been: that may be so Mr Mayor but having benefitted from the ill-gotten gains of their ancestors shouldn't they not be compelled to forfeit them? How can you justify confiscating drug monies and laundered monies which may not have been acquired through genocidal means like in this case but can condone this illegal acquisition? Those would have been my questions; I am sure he would have turned redder than red afterward.
@@apaaaa If you do a search, there's a number of lists. I was thinking we need an African-american massacre museum, to collect evidence and promote awareness of them all. ...Maybe to cover race-lynchings as well. There were lynchings for other reasons, but lynchings as terrorism against the black population was (and is) a thing.
@@grmpEqweer there are about 8 others that come to mind and one even a few years before Tulsa and that too was ignited by a white woman who claimed a black male raped her when she was dating him all along. y'all look it up. and a few years before that one there was another down down south.
@@hubertcumberdale2651 come on man. You really gonna come on this documentary of the largest massacre of black people ever, and just ignore all the lynchings and murders of innocent black people? Weirdo
@UC4Fk1iG9lQV6nhBK8EHV8uAthe Zebra serial killers that committed hate crimes that killed 15 people in 1973 and 1974 was horrible, but it doesn't make a a difference about what happened in Tulsa in 1921. Does it?
Just a Fact: Greenwood was built on allotted tribal land of the Five Civilized Tribes reserved for Black Freedman. The Freedman farmers began to build their own farms and later they invited thousands of Black Americans to live with them, and they both built Black Wall Street by doing business with mostly other Blacks in the region and sometimes with Natives and Mexicans. Just think of the generational wealth that was robbed from Black Wall Street, it could be tens of billions.
@Yoo Wat affluent neighborhoods have a lot of money, and Greenwood was an affluent neighborhood. Hell, equity alone would be hundreds of millions at least over 100 years.
If u listen to the mayor the issue is who pays ... things like this have to be handled in courts native Americans and black ppl have won court cases in the past and that's the only path to hope
@@bingflosby Yes, both Natives and Blacks have lost land in the same way. But the Tribal Nations of Eastern Oklahoma have gotten much of their treaty lands back using armies of lawyers and slowly getting land and jurisdiction back over the last 50 years. Although I have my concerns with the Freedman trying to use the colonial federal government to force any of the Five Tribes to take in Freedman using more colonial laws to dictate tribal affairs. It's up to each tribe to decide if they will allow non-natives or non tribal lineage into their respective tribe. After several 5 Tribes vs Freedman court cases, a couple of Supreme Court rulings sided the Five Tribes saying Federal Government has no jurisdiction on tribal enrollment statue citing all treaties have been broken and the first treaties signed that granted each of the Five Tribes to determine their own enrollment qualifications. If the Freedman feel they deserve Tribal Citizenship, they should protest at the tribal council and win tribal community support with protests, it's up to the Five Tribes to decide their. A newly elected more traditional and progressive Cherokee Council and Principle Chief decided to honor a recent district court ruling ordering the Tribe to take back the Freedman due to violating the 1866 Treaty (the Cherokee could have easily won if they took it to the S. Court). The Freedman and their Black politician allies in Congress should never try to violate tribal treaty rights and sovereignty by threatening to take treaty funding if they don't comply to the demands, the abuse of power and unconstitutional. I do wish the Freedman would focus on suing Oklahoma, The Feds and those who got rich by stealing Freedman land. The Freedman deserve to get back rural unused Oklahoma and Federal lands and plots of Tribal land too (if any tribes still owe them land that is), the Freedman deserve back at least parts of Oklahoma, they used to own at least 10% of the State.
@Veerani Tailor | OF COURSE ! ... read his Wikipedia entry... he is LITERALLY the *descendant of people who **_planned, executed & hid_* the MASSACRE "Robert J. LaFortune, the mayor of Tulsa from 1970 through 1978, is Bynum's grandfather. Bynum's uncle, Bill LaFortune, served as mayor from 2002 to 2006. Bynum is a great-great-grandson of Robert Newton Bynum, who served as mayor from 1899 to 1900" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._T._Bynum#Personal_life
@Charlotte Miller wow you infuriate me too?? You agree with a mob of white people attacking and killing black people and their business because they were doing well in life?? It’s 2021 not 1921, how were you bred to still be a horrible racist? The riots the past year were in response to the unjustified killing of black people in America by police, im sorry you’re so jaded you still don’t see that.
@@That_GuyTH-cam and why should it be? What does it do to give you life skills? You know.... what school is SUPPOSED to do? You can learn about agenda driven massacre history on your own time as an adult. The knowledge is all there and isn't going anywhere.
@@hubertcumberdale2651 I am sure many Americans like yourself wonder why the rest of the world dislikes the American government. Here’s a little history assignment. I want you to look up what happened on 9/11/73. Then look up The School of America’s, then Dan Mitrione, then Operation Condor, then Bay of Pigs, then Guantanamo Bay, then Operation Ajax. This is why history is important. US citizens should learn about history, so then maybe the next generation of elected government officials can avoid crimes like these. Including stuff like the Tulsa Race Massacre.
@@hubertcumberdale2651 School hardly teaches life skills and politicians are reluctant to change that. Are you saying that U.S history shouldn't be taught whatsoever? Because nearly every single school does, and that has support from both sides of the political aisle.
In 1996, 75 years after the massacre, a bipartisan group in the state legislature authorized the formation of the Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921. The commission's final report, published in 2001, states that the city had conspired with the mob of White citizens against Black citizens; it recommended a program of reparations to survivors and their descendants. The state passed legislation to establish scholarships for the descendants of survivors, encourage the economic development of Greenwood, and develop a park in memory of the victims of the massacre in Tulsa. The park was dedicated in 2010. In 2020, the massacre became a part of the Oklahoma school curriculum. In 2021 it became a new paycheck.
@@dvskid4273 Step in the right direction, but reparations should be on the table if you factor the scale of the Tulsa riots; government officials participated in a heanous massacre and covered it up for a long period of time. It is folks who held highest power of that area, sanctioning the massacre AND actively covering up all for many decades. Dude who said "We did everything that America said is right and got it all stripped away like it was a experiment" encapsulated why proper reparations are in order. There are literally survivors from that incident... And that article that said "there will not be another n*** town again" economic ramifications after the incident; wasn't exclusive to Greenwood. Edit: misread ur comment xD Checked all of the boxes - Scholarship - Curriculum and recognition - Reparations - Public works Hope this will mend the pain
Reparations for whom, people who just yell I'm a victim now because blacks died 100 years ago so pay me. Let's let everyone pick anything in the last century that happened to a person of their race and look to get paid for their suffering and claim its yours.
@@shoegum7362 their are asking for reparations for the current survivors and the the descendants of the those murdered, not everyone is getting money 🙄
@@onemanhighlightreel6265 That boomer mindset of "too long ago" and "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" will go extinct along with the backward boomers in power that have been complacent with it in the next two decades. Social justice will prevail as cynicism and the perverse spiral of silence melt away.
@@onemanhighlightreel6265 I mostly feel the mayor they spoke to signed his own resignation by not recognizing the criminal behaviour of local government. He makes a straw man by suggesting local police and fire department officials would need to get their salaries cut, but that is not what is meant by reparations. The purposeful misunderstanding is his schtick, and I'm disappointed he wasn't called out on it, but eventually his rhetoric will run dry.
I’ve grown up in Oklahoma, Muskogee to be exact my whole life and was never taught a word of this act of terrorism it’s sickening what can covered up and hid from us to save face
@@roxarecool the definition of massacre is an indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of people. those 10 whites unless you know all of them by name they most likely died in retaliation. also what people disagree with the term? a white man wrote a book about it labeling such. your attempt to argue semantics is just another piece of evidence of your ignorance and misjustice. you are the problem
A truly sad event but obviously nothing to do with my white ass.... repartitions from who? Is why you see dislikes. Its like saying I got robbed by 2 black men in 1985 and all of Africa owes me for it....it's not that people don't care about what happened they are just upset vice is helping perpetuate a agenda that shouldn't exist.
facts. All the white people there made me extremely uncomfortable because they were just as ignorant as this mayor. Go to Tulsa for the memorial and then in the same breath say they don't deserve reparations because it wasn't them that did it. May not be you but I sure as hell know their grandparents were. Most people don't move out of Oklahoma.
I looked into this years ago because my buddy told me the song ( she dropped a bomb on me by the gap band was about this ).. I read about the sherrifs dropping Dynamite from planes, but later information revealed it was a military operation.. either way it's not really about white supremacy, it's about the system not allowing anyone to be free and prosper.. I'm from Atlanta, it took 100 years to destabilize "black" folks there.. very rich neighborhoods reduced to "hoods", condemn the area and put up high-rises and businesses, it's standard city planning practice.. this happens everywhere to this day, so for the new fake puppet ( same as all fake puppets of the system ) to speak on this matter is a joke, because it's their system that does it.. this race bs going on now is clearly part of the larger UN operation, the great reset is here and we as the human race need to stick together and not be devided on old issues. ( We will deal with that when we can ) hell, have y'all forgotten what happened on 9-11-01? That needs this much attention, the military spraying our skies daily needs this much attention. The fake plandemic needs this much attention, we are at war and loosing, the fact everyone put on masks ( that wouldn't help if it was real ) and did what the system said proves the population is clueless. This is social engineering, chess not checkers. The good folks in the system, please do your job, because the end result, no one has a seat at the table.. or let them plug you into the cloud, they've already rewritten the human genome..
This generation of those that committed the crime should not be held accountable..ok But the victims of generation are still suffering today...so who is gonna take responsibility for them.??
I can't believe they finally openly talking about this. America should be Ashamed. May the Ancestors be given peace and wealth in their Afterlife and help the ones still one earth there here
School can't teach you about every single event that has ever happened. Most schools already go in dept about slavery, civil rights, and the struggles thereafter. Schools have a limited amount of time to go over all of history.
@@TheRealWinser but this is huge fucking deal. This isn't a small insignificant event that can be brushed over. The Tulsa government and surrounding towns whent and burned down what was probably the most affluent black towns in the US at the time and murdered nearly everyone that lived there. Then covered up the whole thing for close to 50 years.
@@TheRealWinser no they don’t but they sure do a good job about glorying things like Christopher Columbus and how he did not do ANYTHING TO THE NATIVES
@Tuy Randolph Greenwood was a thriving and profitable community before it was burned down. That's part of the reason why it was burned down. Because seeing black folks do so well pissed off local white folks.
@Tristan Mulvihill Read this www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/ i'd personally explain it to you. But I just got done doing the same thing for 2 other dudes so i'm tired bro.
@Tristan Mulvihill I mean with that attitude nothing would get fixed. Lol. It's not my fault people on the 50s built this old ass bridge. Why do we have to pay to fix it?!?
@Tristan Mulvihill the loss of generational wealth that was stolen from these people's family doesn't affect them? Lol. That's the hill you want to die on? "You use it". People don't use the land that was stolen? People didn't use the the items pillaged from that town? Banks even refused to give residents the money they had invested because their books were burned in that massacre. That money was sure used. Was invested into other things. I can go all day. Lol Honestly every day People wouldn't take a large hit when it comes to "paying" for reparations. Hell if we actually properly taxed the wealthy properly in this country we could afford to do it.
they don’t care, they’ll throw us our little bread crumbs but at the end of the day we truly need to all get together and create solutions. We are an army, we’ve jus been trained wrong.
This is why our people must tell our own story and to our people; we have to constantly remind our people of these horrific tragedies of our ancestors that were inflicted upon them by this racist country that these savage beasts would rather remain hidden; but the fact of the matter is, everything done in the dark eventually comes to the light.
“When it comes to payments, where will it come from?” The same place it comes from when they decide they wanna waste away a few more billion on tanks and fighter jets that will never get used. FOH dude.
Those responsible will never ever admit wrong in a real way. To ask for redress is to invite them to commit new horrors. The forces-that-be took the centenary as an opportunity to begin gentrifying Greenwood. And represented it as an apology. Monstrous.
Without direct payments to the survivors and descendants, all it is is theatre and ways to show symbolic victories. They use this tactic every time when dealing with FBA issues. Everyone else but FBAs get direct payments for any wrongdoing and are never told to "get over it". Keep the objective of payment and legislation as the only prizes in this journey for justice.
opinion - All descendants of white Tulsans from 1921 should pay a reparations tax to a business fund for all descendants of black Tulsans who also get a tax free life to enable a new start to black wealth. If the modern white Tulsans don't like it, they're free to move and free up their real estate, giving it back. Then repeat this everywhere affected by Red Summer. I'd happily pay such a tax towards the soul of America.
SMH is all I got to say. Like Malcom X said... it really gets to a point where we just can’t beg a man to give us what he has never had interest in giving... we have to take it. We’ve asked nicely for hundreds of years.
"This generation of Tulsans did not carry out a crime" Neither did this generation of Germans. Still, we pay war reparations, and rightly so. It's not nice, and not always fair, but you have to stick up for what your elders did wrong. If not, who else is going to right the wrongs??
"We still pay war reparations" No you don't. German war reparations were over by 1953. No German alive today is blamed for the crimes of the Nazis unless they actively took part in them during the war.
@@CedarHunt i think he misspoke , i think he meant reparations due to the war , which germany does still pay in the form of extra pensions, one off payments and i believe(but not sure ) extra healthcare coverage by the state this isnt about blaming people and , this is about trying to restore what these people or communities had before these things were done , you cant bring them back but you can at least alleviate their financial troubles. and ofc this also about making people aware of extremeism www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/EN/Standardartikel/Press_Room/Publications/Brochures/2018-08-15-entschaedigung-ns-unrecht-engl.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=8 (published by the federal germen finance ministery , if your going to read it ill give you a couple of words i saw that you may not know , Lander are states, the basic law is the direct translation of the germen word for constitution. you can see in this document that germany has a long history of laws compensating victims of the nazis , which i dont believe america has any
@@CedarHunt But Nazi flags are banned, that history is taught in German curriculum. In the retarded U.S. of A however they have over 800 confederate war memorials and Confederate flags flown over southern state houses.
Declare the descendants and survivors of the massacre tax exempt and eligible for forgivable loans. That should incentivize the people to start their own development. Simple.
@@MayorMcheese12 That massacre destroyed what would’ve been generations of wealth passed down in those families. But let’s be honest, you don’t care. You’re just salty about the thought of them getting ahead in any way that doesn’t benefit you. Oh well. Sometimes the shoe ends up on the other foot. That’s life.
Mr. Bynum, the government's money is not taxpayer's money just as Walmart's money is not Walmart shopper's money. Taxpayers, like shoppers, pay for goods and services (i.e. education, infrastructure, defense, etc.). If it was truly their money, it'd be sitting in their bank accounts; it's not. The city of Tulsa is responsible for murdering its own Black resident's, unjustly imprisoning them, burning their businesses, and stealing their homes and lands. It is the city of Tulsa's responsibility, not it's residents, to pay for the damage and destruction it has caused. No one is knocking on white resident's doors asking for money. People are knocking on the government's door demanding what they are owed - reparations and justice!
Correction Mr Mayor, this generation of Tulsans did not commit the crime but they benefitted from the proceeds of the crime and therefore are equally culpable. By the same token, all through the years while they were benefitting our people were suffering. It is intergenerational; the future cannot be divorced from the past.
If what you are saying is true why is no one seeking reprarations, from those that sold Black Americans into slavery. I am responsible for a dead persons actions just because I am considered white. Totally ludicrous!
@@andremorse9282 You obviously did not read my comment otherwise you would not have made that stupid remark. I never included all white people; I was referring specifically to the Tulsans. Are Russians responsible for the plight of black people in America? Of course not.
The city can take the amount of recorded proceeds from the date of the event til now.. and adjust income based on those gains then vs now.. then place that total.amount into payment for each family member that possibly could have had lost. Then each claimant has their section to claim If they ever choose
In 1996, 75 years after the massacre, a bipartisan group in the state legislature authorized the formation of the Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921. The commission's final report, published in 2001, states that the city had conspired with the mob of White citizens against Black citizens; it recommended a program of reparations to survivors and their descendants. The state passed legislation to establish scholarships for the descendants of survivors, encourage the economic development of Greenwood, and develop a park in memory of the victims of the massacre in Tulsa. The park was dedicated in 2010. In 2020, the massacre became a part of the Oklahoma school curriculum. In 2021 with the race card a top paycheck its time to get paid.
@@dvskid4273 well in real life.. life is no joke.. and reparations is proof of liability. Native american got one.. Japanese.. a large list except.. one group.. all that is gonna happen is people are gonna disagree chaos will dismay.. war break out globally over emotional responses.. just the rules of the world.. already every night it's chaos.. but this just the start.. farmers are quitting due to impossible standards to grow.. famine coming.. other nations then coming as everything is down.. trump knows this he been sold out.. like cya can do the same thing in europe with my wife as president in her country.. give me your money before I go usa supporters of idiocy.. then bam no reparations to repair black community.. aka the entertainment of america.. the allure comes from.african american community.. from inventing rock and roll to punk music.. list goes on.. and a that entertainment can leave.. then what is left ?
"We want to create an environment where no one remembers what my great grandpappy did." Mayor Economic development for Black and Indigenous people would be the best way forward as it relates to reparations.
Economic development also must mean people's assets are protected and respected, which America seems unwilling or incapable of doing. It has to be part of a package of options, in addition to political power and the development of institutions that will win and implement reparations for our communities.
Watching this reminds me of how my mom told me her mother-in-law, my grandmother I told her that when she would pray at the Catholic Church, she would not only pray for her son to keep himself out of trouble but for his children, me and my brother to never have harmed find our way because of his actions or anyone else's for that matter. I finally understand why.
Sorry but this event happened over one hundred years ago. The people who are responsible have been dead for decades. If people can start claiming cash reparations for things that happened to their great grandparents, where does it end? Native Americans, Hispanics, Asians, Poles, Irish, and Italians have all been victims of discrimination in the US. Should all of their descendants be able to claim the US government owes them money too?
Our country has a very UGLY past. This is truly disgusting to learn about 100 years later. The people that did this are not Human they are devil's. And I hope their souls are paying for this.
@@saintfentanylfloyd6178 Everyone forgets that Spain killed more people by bringing in European diseases then anything else. If you want an apology, here, I'm of Portuguese-Asian descent, that's the closest you could get, as the Spaniards didn't apologize to Mexico for this.
@@saintfentanylfloyd6178 compared to other countries true. But we have alot of hate issues to deal with and by sweeping them under a rug makes it U G L Y Tulsa ain't got no Alibi.
@@13ceb No one is sweeping anything. The cast majority of Americans are not racist. However the discourse is kept alive by race hustling activists and politicians for money and power.
That mayor is completely clueless... He refuses to acknowledge that gentrifying Greenwood will only further alienate the people that live there. Building that pathway & the upcoming museum is a slap in the face to the descendants of the massacre. That money needed to be given to them.
There are those who say that history is irrelevant, that it is in the past. To them, I say that we remember our history and the ways it remains to this day so that we can prevent these things from ever happening again. Shame on the mayor of Tulsa and his inability to listen to the people and the survivors of this devastating, horrific event in the long history of racial oppression in the United States.
This wasn’t the only massacre: Wilmington Coup of 1898 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898 Elaine Massacre: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_massacre Colfax Massacre: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colfax_massacre Rosewood Massacre: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood_massacre Atlanta Massacre of 1906: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_massacre_of_1906 Know your history because they won’t teach you this in school!
@Charlotte Miller so hundreds on black ppl died compared to maybe 10? That newspaper was probably lying and there's was way more damage to black owned businesses so much so they couldn't rebuild or re open
Now you can understand Syria and Palestine... destruction is to create poverty and thus privatization...the fact that people are still disrespectful shows that the spirit of torture and flames is amongst the people
Unfortunately true Justice can not be done all the bastards that committed this heinous crime are not a live to face trial ( I also only learned about this from watchman WTF)
I just want to point out what this mayor said about reparations. He said I don't think this generation should have to pay for a crime they didn't commit. That is such a blanket statement. Every week in America there is a lawsuit being paid out to an individual or party by the city for something that everyone in the city didn't have a hand in. Why is, it didn't happen this generation so why should this generation pay for it any different than other settlements and payouts to other individuals. That is infuriating to hear how he uses that logic without even considering the full totality of the statement.
Thank you! You took the words right out of my mouth! Also they is evidence that the mayor is directly related to the man who was the mayor at the time of the riot.
Developers, back or white, aren't going to invest in a poor area. It costs the same to build a building in a poor area as it does in a better neighborhood, except one will be worth more after its built, why, location.
If the city was involved, and organized the massacre/terrorist act, the city should pay the settlement. And all the land that was taken, give it back to the descendants or give them an equally sized and value of land. I find the proposal the mayor gave HIGHLY insulting. But they won't give us reparations because it will set precedent and thats what they're trying to avoid. Sometimes I feel the only way they'll get it is if we do unto them the things they did and still do to us. Then I stop myself because I would never want to be that vile and sinister.
It’s never time to talk about reparations. Then when it is... it’s too late. Everyone says what about (insert x minority), they deserve reperations too. correct. So how is blacks asking for it taking away from everyone else deserving it too?
@@lazarithdominguez1178 who said the government couldn’t reconcile with all of the minority communities that deserve reperations at the same time? I want everyone to get what they deserve.
@@lazarithdominguez1178 please keep in mind the US is a capitalist country where money runs just about everything. Also they burned businesses in Tulsa. So why is asking for a monetary compensation viewed, in your opinion, as materialistic ?
Where’s the reparations for The Native American Tribes and Native Californians, these are the first people entitled to proper reparations. That sacred land ya(black folk in video)dancing over is graves to other tribes dummies and now it’s claimed as yours. History-is-told-by-the-victors-His-Story
You guys are so dumb. Of course native Americans deserve reparations. And how are you upset that slaves live where they were brought ??? Like they chose to live on top of sacred land.
Native American sided with white folks. They allowed them to push you off your land on reservations which have more crime and alcohol abuse than any city that’s on your tribe who made that deal with white folks and you lose you choose the wrong side not black people who were brought here against their will taken from there homeland to be slaves
@@cameronjustin8654 About 90% of the Native Americans who were in what became the United States were killed. So they could go on the reservations or be murdered. When people from Europe showed up, there was probably at least 20 million people. By 1900, there were less than a million Native Americans. The settlers committed genocide.
@@djkatfishbeats yea because the school curriculum is gonna tell black kids how every time their people built themselves up they were destroyed for it. Nice take though Lib
I love Tulsa to death. I left years ago and lived all over, including in the UK. I am proud everyday that we talk about our failings and work on the question "what is owed?" I'd like to answer it together--even before some damn judge says the obvious. I'd like to see fairness and justice be the words used to describe our answer. I am interested in not just in "do I owe a debt?" (I am a child of people that came in the 70's), but "have we restored our people after a loss of community?" Hell, what if we just said, "we used to be the best place to be a Black business owner. Can we be the best place to be a Black business owner in the future?" I would love to come back to Tulsa and find out it's the best place to be Black (full stop). Hell, we should be the best place to be Black for the next 100 years. Not a damn bit of that diminishes living-while-not-Black in Tulsa. Why can't that be a goal?
It was all about our “Black Indian allotted oil land” We were the richest people in the world per capital” That’s my great uncle Edward Lett! 🔪Cut da Check$$
Its as the man said the government makes a problem ,people ask the government for the help to the problem, the government gives a solution to the problem which they already had planned for.
Chief Amusan is 100% right. Perhaps he should be elected as a rep for the community? Sounds like there needs to be cohesive requests that can be checked off as progress is made. Thoughts of a Canadian citizen
You act like the actions of yesterday don't reverberate today and tomorrow. Slavery, Redlining, Jim crow, the war on "drugs",etc still affect us. It was only around 60 years ago when black people weren't even treated the same as whites. When we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki we helped Japan recover and we did the same for the Southerns during the civil war. We can spend billions of dollars on wars most of us don't want but we can't use any of that money to help U.S. citizens that deserve it? If you benefit off of what your forefathers stole/did then you're still accountable. The sins of our fathers are passed to our sons.
@@ASHtheSLUGCAT 800K Americans died to give African Americans their freedoms. People shooting each other in Chicago or Baltimore today are not doing so because of racism 60 years ago. People aren't robbing Walgreens of everything they can fit in a trash bag because of racism 60 years ago. Rayshard Brooks didn't pass out drunk in his car in a Wendy's drive through and then fight police and take their taser because of racism 60 years ago. Single motherhood incentivized by the social welfare programs instituted by FDR and his new deal is what has lead to poverty issues in the black communities combined with toxic culture that incentivizes gangbanging, baby mommas, and expensive designer clothing over family values and personal responsibilities.
@@Scallycowell That's not how the law works. There are banks and families that are still in possession of stolen property. Some of these victims are still alive today. Any bank or organization would get the money back. It's only the black people who are told to deal with it. I hope they get everything owed to them.
What about if reparations were paid partially in the form of an educational credit for public colleges and universities that already receive federal funding? Education is the fastest way to change a generational outcome. It also incentivizes descendants, that it is not just money being given out, its an opportunity that is there, but you also need to be willing to go get it. The credit could last for period of time 10-20 years, so its not for the rest of time because eventually the equity would even the playing field. Reparations could also be in the form of investigative committees to document as best as possible all of the stories and injustices that have have been buried. Situations of wrongful/illegal land acquisition through documented ownership could restore or at least compensate some generational land. Then moving forward it would be with the understanding that history would never repeat itself, we need to heal our country's wounds so that we can move forward as one people, and one nation together. We honor, remember, and bring justice to the past, and we commit to building the future together for all. I say this as a African American man, a descendant of enslaved people, but also as someone who believes that America and ALL its people are at their best, when its strong and united.
Education only benefits citizens if the jobs they apply to are not owned by racists... Which is why black wall street built their own. As a half native American, my college degree gets me a series of entry level jobs without benefits with no opportunity for advancement.
Does anyone believe for a single second that race still holds people back in the modern US? A country that has affirmative action to the point of literally hiring minorities to fill mandated quotas?
Absolutely. After agreeing that reparations are justified, the debate if often how these reparations should be given. I absolutely agree that it should be in the form of investment for impoverished and discriminated communities
We talked to the team that met survivors and descendants of the Tulsa Race Massacre - th-cam.com/video/kdznZuMcsGs/w-d-xo.html
That mayor is an absolute sleezball.
They deserve better...
OF COURSE ! he is ... read his Wikipedia entry... he is LITERALLY the *descendant of people who **_planned, executed & hid_* the MASSACRE
"Robert J. LaFortune, the mayor of Tulsa from 1970 through 1978, is Bynum's grandfather. Bynum's uncle, Bill LaFortune, served as mayor from 2002 to 2006.
Bynum is a great-great-grandson of Robert Newton Bynum, who served as mayor from 1899 to 1900"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._T._Bynum#Personal_life
The money should come from the Tulsa Police pension fund and a slice of every year's operating budget until reparations have been made.
The Mayor and whoever is in control is full of bovine excrement. They just do not want to recognize or compensate blacks for anything thing done to them even when you can prove that is fair and just. They just say "the people living now didn't do it so they shouldn't be penalized" while those "nonpenalized" people are enjoying the benefit of the murder and displacement of those people who were massacred by the ancestors of many of those people. Ridiculous hypocrisy.
He's the perfect embodiment of sleeze. lol
@@1NavyLT You are absolutely right; the reporter did not ask the right question when he said that the current Tulsans did not commit this crime; the follow up question should have been: that may be so Mr Mayor but having benefitted from the ill-gotten gains of their ancestors shouldn't they not be compelled to forfeit them? How can you justify confiscating drug monies and laundered monies which may not have been acquired through genocidal means like in this case but can condone this illegal acquisition? Those would have been my questions; I am sure he would have turned redder than red afterward.
The crazy thing is Tulsa wasn’t even the only massacre of its kind!
@@apaaaa
If you do a search, there's a number of lists.
I was thinking we need an African-american massacre museum, to collect evidence and promote awareness of them all.
...Maybe to cover race-lynchings as well. There were lynchings for other reasons, but lynchings as terrorism against the black population was (and is) a thing.
@@grmpEqweer there are about 8 others that come to mind and one even a few years before Tulsa and that too was ignited by a white woman who claimed a black male raped her when she was dating him all along. y'all look it up. and a few years before that one there was another down down south.
@@hubertcumberdale2651 come on man. You really gonna come on this documentary of the largest massacre of black people ever, and just ignore all the lynchings and murders of innocent black people? Weirdo
@UC4Fk1iG9lQV6nhBK8EHV8uAthe Zebra serial killers that committed hate crimes that killed 15 people in 1973 and 1974 was horrible, but it doesn't make a a difference about what happened in Tulsa in 1921. Does it?
Yha I think Rosewood FL was a community massacre too
Just a Fact: Greenwood was built on allotted tribal land of the Five Civilized Tribes reserved for Black Freedman. The Freedman farmers began to build their own farms and later they invited thousands of Black Americans to live with them, and they both built Black Wall Street by doing business with mostly other Blacks in the region and sometimes with Natives and Mexicans. Just think of the generational wealth that was robbed from Black Wall Street, it could be tens of billions.
@Yoo Wat it would grow? wall street back then wasnt that big either.
@Yoo Wat affluent neighborhoods have a lot of money, and Greenwood was an affluent neighborhood. Hell, equity alone would be hundreds of millions at least over 100 years.
It wasn’t that nice, it was a working class area. Just your standard town.
If u listen to the mayor the issue is who pays ... things like this have to be handled in courts native Americans and black ppl have won court cases in the past and that's the only path to hope
@@bingflosby Yes, both Natives and Blacks have lost land in the same way. But the Tribal Nations of Eastern Oklahoma have gotten much of their treaty lands back using armies of lawyers and slowly getting land and jurisdiction back over the last 50 years.
Although I have my concerns with the Freedman trying to use the colonial federal government to force any of the Five Tribes to take in Freedman using more colonial laws to dictate tribal affairs. It's up to each tribe to decide if they will allow non-natives or non tribal lineage into their respective tribe. After several 5 Tribes vs Freedman court cases, a couple of Supreme Court rulings sided the Five Tribes saying Federal Government has no jurisdiction on tribal enrollment statue citing all treaties have been broken and the first treaties signed that granted each of the Five Tribes to determine their own enrollment qualifications. If the Freedman feel they deserve Tribal Citizenship, they should protest at the tribal council and win tribal community support with protests, it's up to the Five Tribes to decide their. A newly elected more traditional and progressive Cherokee Council and Principle Chief decided to honor a recent district court ruling ordering the Tribe to take back the Freedman due to violating the 1866 Treaty (the Cherokee could have easily won if they took it to the S. Court). The Freedman and their Black politician allies in Congress should never try to violate tribal treaty rights and sovereignty by threatening to take treaty funding if they don't comply to the demands, the abuse of power and unconstitutional.
I do wish the Freedman would focus on suing Oklahoma, The Feds and those who got rich by stealing Freedman land. The Freedman deserve to get back rural unused Oklahoma and Federal lands and plots of Tribal land too (if any tribes still owe them land that is), the Freedman deserve back at least parts of Oklahoma, they used to own at least 10% of the State.
God that mayor infuriated me
same
@Veerani Tailor | OF COURSE ! ... read his Wikipedia entry... he is LITERALLY the *descendant of people who **_planned, executed & hid_* the MASSACRE
"Robert J. LaFortune, the mayor of Tulsa from 1970 through 1978, is Bynum's grandfather. Bynum's uncle, Bill LaFortune, served as mayor from 2002 to 2006.
Bynum is a great-great-grandson of Robert Newton Bynum, who served as mayor from 1899 to 1900"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._T._Bynum#Personal_life
@sneksnekitsasnek | you CANNOT ! most WHITE people in Tulsa support him ! | Racism is never an individual thing ... there are always GROUPS behind it
@Charlotte Miller wow you infuriate me too?? You agree with a mob of white people attacking and killing black people and their business because they were doing well in life?? It’s 2021 not 1921, how were you bred to still be a horrible racist? The riots the past year were in response to the unjustified killing of black people in America by police, im sorry you’re so jaded you still don’t see that.
it's been 100 years and there still trying to cover it up
@@hubertcumberdale2651 bruh this event is not even in US school books
@@That_GuyTH-cam and why should it be? What does it do to give you life skills? You know.... what school is SUPPOSED to do? You can learn about agenda driven massacre history on your own time as an adult. The knowledge is all there and isn't going anywhere.
@@That_GuyTH-cam You can open a book ya know
@@hubertcumberdale2651 I am sure many Americans like yourself wonder why the rest of the world dislikes the American government.
Here’s a little history assignment. I want you to look up what happened on 9/11/73. Then look up The School of America’s, then Dan Mitrione, then Operation Condor, then Bay of Pigs, then Guantanamo Bay, then Operation Ajax.
This is why history is important. US citizens should learn about history, so then maybe the next generation of elected government officials can avoid crimes like these. Including stuff like the Tulsa Race Massacre.
@@hubertcumberdale2651 School hardly teaches life skills and politicians are reluctant to change that. Are you saying that U.S history shouldn't be taught whatsoever? Because nearly every single school does, and that has support from both sides of the political aisle.
"There seems to be a lot of proposals for economic development"
"For who?"
........
Exactly.
I wouldn't want to go back either.
Whites
[Rhetorical question mic drop]
"I plan on rebuilding black wall street."
"How?"
"By giving money to white developers."
In 1996, 75 years after the massacre, a bipartisan group in the state legislature authorized the formation of the Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921. The commission's final report, published in 2001, states that the city had conspired with the mob of White citizens against Black citizens; it recommended a program of reparations to survivors and their descendants. The state passed legislation to establish scholarships for the descendants of survivors, encourage the economic development of Greenwood, and develop a park in memory of the victims of the massacre in Tulsa. The park was dedicated in 2010. In 2020, the massacre became a part of the Oklahoma school curriculum. In 2021 it became a new paycheck.
@@dvskid4273 that's quite nice, how much money was put into the economic development of black communities within tulsa and what were the returns ?
@@comradepolarbear6920 yo
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣
@@dvskid4273 Step in the right direction, but reparations should be on the table if you factor the scale of the Tulsa riots; government officials participated in a heanous massacre and covered it up for a long period of time.
It is folks who held highest power of that area, sanctioning the massacre AND actively covering up all for many decades.
Dude who said "We did everything that America said is right and got it all stripped away like it was a experiment" encapsulated why proper reparations are in order.
There are literally survivors from that incident...
And that article that said "there will not be another n*** town again" economic ramifications after the incident; wasn't exclusive to Greenwood.
Edit: misread ur comment xD
Checked all of the boxes
- Scholarship
- Curriculum and recognition
- Reparations
- Public works
Hope this will mend the pain
Black Tulsa: We demand Reparation's
Tulsa City: Best we could do is a pathway called "Hope" .
I want Money from Germany then for being Jewish
@@SpaceRanger187 Germany already paid out they're reparations.
I live in Tulsa, this state as a whole fucking sucks ass.
Reparations for whom, people who just yell I'm a victim now because blacks died 100 years ago so pay me. Let's let everyone pick anything in the last century that happened to a person of their race and look to get paid for their suffering and claim its yours.
@@shoegum7362 their are asking for reparations for the current survivors and the the descendants of the those murdered, not everyone is getting money 🙄
Tulsa could be the example for the whole country. That's exactly why it will never happen.
You are being incoherent. Purposefully?
You didn't comprehend the documentary purposely?
@@onemanhighlightreel6265 That boomer mindset of "too long ago" and "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" will go extinct along with the backward boomers in power that have been complacent with it in the next two decades. Social justice will prevail as cynicism and the perverse spiral of silence melt away.
@@onemanhighlightreel6265 I mostly feel the mayor they spoke to signed his own resignation by not recognizing the criminal behaviour of local government. He makes a straw man by suggesting local police and fire department officials would need to get their salaries cut, but that is not what is meant by reparations. The purposeful misunderstanding is his schtick, and I'm disappointed he wasn't called out on it, but eventually his rhetoric will run dry.
@@onemanhighlightreel6265 Please excuse the tl;dr
When you live here in Tulsa this hits different 🥺
Reinforcements coming soon
Man im from Ga and it hit just the same...ive been to Black wall street. Im spiritually connected to the soil. We feel it to.
@@drickasjackson8252 strange I can't feel my ancestors, only myself.
@@jennifershaw5302 not the time for jokes
@@listen2me00 what joke.
I’ve grown up in Oklahoma, Muskogee to be exact my whole life and was never taught a word of this act of terrorism it’s sickening what can covered up and hid from us to save face
@sneksnekitsasnek they dont teach that and i live in florida
You ppl are wicked to say the least
Grew up in OC CA and they taught us this in middleschool. Like 7th grade
@@WeAreTrueAfrican "you people"
@@WeAreTrueAfrican you serious?
Spending millions in sub contractor hires and simultaneously saying “where should the money come from?”
Is the mayor serious?
He’s completely clueless...
people who dislike this, can you explain why? The Tulsa massacre is real, denying it makes you look crazy
People disagree with labeling the event a “massacre.” It was a race riot. 29 blacks died, and so did 10 whites.
@@roxarecool the definition of massacre is an indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of people. those 10 whites unless you know all of them by name they most likely died in retaliation. also what people disagree with the term? a white man wrote a book about it labeling such. your attempt to argue semantics is just another piece of evidence of your ignorance and misjustice. you are the problem
A truly sad event but obviously nothing to do with my white ass.... repartitions from who? Is why you see dislikes.
Its like saying I got robbed by 2 black men in 1985 and all of Africa owes me for it....it's not that people don't care about what happened they are just upset vice is helping perpetuate a agenda that shouldn't exist.
@יעקב ייגר Source?
@@manman9765Since when is skin color the determining factor for what labels are appropriate?
the pathway makes white people feel good..thats all that matters.
facts. All the white people there made me extremely uncomfortable because they were just as ignorant as this mayor. Go to Tulsa for the memorial and then in the same breath say they don't deserve reparations because it wasn't them that did it. May not be you but I sure as hell know their grandparents were. Most people don't move out of Oklahoma.
The military did it.. anyone going to speak on that?
They were the ones who provided the C4.
@@NunyaHarmonee c4 wasn’t around in the the 20’s it was made in the 50’s please educate yourself
@@liop39 dynamite then
They touch on that in the piece.
I looked into this years ago because my buddy told me the song ( she dropped a bomb on me by the gap band was about this ).. I read about the sherrifs dropping Dynamite from planes, but later information revealed it was a military operation.. either way it's not really about white supremacy, it's about the system not allowing anyone to be free and prosper.. I'm from Atlanta, it took 100 years to destabilize "black" folks there.. very rich neighborhoods reduced to "hoods", condemn the area and put up high-rises and businesses, it's standard city planning practice.. this happens everywhere to this day, so for the new fake puppet ( same as all fake puppets of the system ) to speak on this matter is a joke, because it's their system that does it.. this race bs going on now is clearly part of the larger UN operation, the great reset is here and we as the human race need to stick together and not be devided on old issues. ( We will deal with that when we can ) hell, have y'all forgotten what happened on 9-11-01? That needs this much attention, the military spraying our skies daily needs this much attention. The fake plandemic needs this much attention, we are at war and loosing, the fact everyone put on masks ( that wouldn't help if it was real ) and did what the system said proves the population is clueless. This is social engineering, chess not checkers. The good folks in the system, please do your job, because the end result, no one has a seat at the table.. or let them plug you into the cloud, they've already rewritten the human genome..
this event should be taught in school, also there are many other massacre's like these that are never mentioned.
Chinese Massacre of Torreon
In Northern Virginia I was taught all about that in 7th grade. It’s crazy how much and little schools teach to kids, even where I went to.
This generation of those that committed the crime should not be held accountable..ok
But the victims of generation are still suffering today...so who is gonna take responsibility for them.??
That's a good question.
Do you believe they should tax the non native Tulsa citizens for what happened even though they had NOTHING to do with it?
@@12gagebuckshot99 What?
@@drvgxn4719 yep..they're (idiot's) everywhere...
You think that if your ancestor committed a crime that you should be doing the time for it? If that's what you're saying it makes no sense
West Philadelphia the helicopter released a bomb on Osage street, ppl blamed the Mayor, the police blamed one woman, Vice covered it!
The MOVE organization
I lived in west philly 2 years and didn't kno that
“We gon give em a basket ball court and free popeyes fo a year” - Mayor
lol slowly killing them by clotting their bloods
I can't believe they finally openly talking about this. America should be Ashamed. May the Ancestors be given peace and wealth in their Afterlife and help the ones still one earth there here
Why didnt i hear about this in school like god damn
It’s because the whole system is messed up
well... how does this help you get a job?
School can't teach you about every single event that has ever happened. Most schools already go in dept about slavery, civil rights, and the struggles thereafter. Schools have a limited amount of time to go over all of history.
@@TheRealWinser but this is huge fucking deal. This isn't a small insignificant event that can be brushed over. The Tulsa government and surrounding towns whent and burned down what was probably the most affluent black towns in the US at the time and murdered nearly everyone that lived there. Then covered up the whole thing for close to 50 years.
@@TheRealWinser no they don’t but they sure do a good job about glorying things like Christopher Columbus and how he did not do ANYTHING TO THE NATIVES
Spent a million on a pathway but couldn't get any of the descendants a reparations.
Because they don't deserve it
@Tuy Randolph Greenwood was a thriving and profitable community before it was burned down. That's part of the reason why it was burned down. Because seeing black folks do so well pissed off local white folks.
@Tristan Mulvihill Read this www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/
i'd personally explain it to you. But I just got done doing the same thing for 2 other dudes so i'm tired bro.
@Tristan Mulvihill I mean with that attitude nothing would get fixed. Lol. It's not my fault people on the 50s built this old ass bridge. Why do we have to pay to fix it?!?
@Tristan Mulvihill the loss of generational wealth that was stolen from these people's family doesn't affect them? Lol. That's the hill you want to die on?
"You use it". People don't use the land that was stolen? People didn't use the the items pillaged from that town? Banks even refused to give residents the money they had invested because their books were burned in that massacre. That money was sure used. Was invested into other things. I can go all day. Lol
Honestly every day People wouldn't take a large hit when it comes to "paying" for reparations. Hell if we actually properly taxed the wealthy properly in this country we could afford to do it.
they don’t care, they’ll throw us our little bread crumbs but at the end of the day we truly need to all get together and create solutions. We are an army, we’ve jus been trained wrong.
@Super Mario Stay out of it if you aren’t black
This is why our people must tell our own story and to our people; we have to constantly remind our people of these horrific tragedies of our ancestors that were inflicted upon them by this racist country that these savage beasts would rather remain hidden; but the fact of the matter is, everything done in the dark eventually comes to the light.
“When it comes to payments, where will it come from?” The same place it comes from when they decide they wanna waste away a few more billion on tanks and fighter jets that will never get used. FOH dude.
Shoot, they could’ve used some of the $30 Million they raised to build that pathway and the upcoming museum.
@@gpk1982 they'd much rather gives us false symbols of victory than actual economic equity. Since the dawn of time.
Those responsible will never ever admit wrong in a real way. To ask for redress is to invite them to commit new horrors. The forces-that-be took the centenary as an opportunity to begin gentrifying Greenwood. And represented it as an apology. Monstrous.
Aren’t they all dead?
They were already gentrifying Greenwood this just made it worse
Used to be a police officer in this corrupt place…it all makes sense now. Tulsa is racially and economically segregated to this day.
Without direct payments to the survivors and descendants, all it is is theatre and ways to show symbolic victories. They use this tactic every time when dealing with FBA issues. Everyone else but FBAs get direct payments for any wrongdoing and are never told to "get over it". Keep the objective of payment and legislation as the only prizes in this journey for justice.
opinion - All descendants of white Tulsans from 1921 should pay a reparations tax to a business fund for all descendants of black Tulsans who also get a tax free life to enable a new start to black wealth. If the modern white Tulsans don't like it, they're free to move and free up their real estate, giving it back. Then repeat this everywhere affected by Red Summer. I'd happily pay such a tax towards the soul of America.
Go get a job
It's sad that I only know about Tulsa, because of the Watchmen show..
Should have studied more in school
@@joseureste8257 Some schools don't teach it.
@@joseureste8257 schools didnt teach it
SMH is all I got to say. Like Malcom X said... it really gets to a point where we just can’t beg a man to give us what he has never had interest in giving... we have to take it. We’ve asked nicely for hundreds of years.
Lol, white man bad so go steal from him 😆
I’m from tulsa and I didn’t know about this for the first 16 years of my life had to find out from googling “tulsa history”
sad.
I read about this recently in the NYT. But hearing the survivors’ voices is so compelling. Thank you.
Unless you're compelled to go kill racists, stfu.
"This generation of Tulsans did not carry out a crime"
Neither did this generation of Germans. Still, we pay war reparations, and rightly so.
It's not nice, and not always fair, but you have to stick up for what your elders did wrong.
If not, who else is going to right the wrongs??
"We still pay war reparations" No you don't. German war reparations were over by 1953. No German alive today is blamed for the crimes of the Nazis unless they actively took part in them during the war.
@@CedarHunt i think he misspoke , i think he meant reparations due to the war , which germany does still pay in the form of extra pensions, one off payments and i believe(but not sure ) extra healthcare coverage by the state
this isnt about blaming people and , this is about trying to restore what these people or communities had before these things were done , you cant bring them back but you can at least alleviate their financial troubles. and ofc this also about making people aware of extremeism
www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/EN/Standardartikel/Press_Room/Publications/Brochures/2018-08-15-entschaedigung-ns-unrecht-engl.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=8 (published by the federal germen finance ministery , if your going to read it ill give you a couple of words i saw that you may not know , Lander are states, the basic law is the direct translation of the germen word for constitution. you can see in this document that germany has a long history of laws compensating victims of the nazis , which i dont believe america has any
@@CedarHunt But Nazi flags are banned, that history is taught in German curriculum.
In the retarded U.S. of A however they have over 800 confederate war memorials and Confederate flags flown over southern state houses.
@Tuy Randolph corrected!
@Tuy Randolph Does a flag have any meaning at all to you? If not, why do you keep pledging allegiance to a piece of cloth ya num nuts!
He went all around not answering the question...🤣
Declare the descendants and survivors of the massacre tax exempt and eligible for forgivable loans. That should incentivize the people to start their own development. Simple.
Why should they be exempt and nobody else when they had nothing to do with it? That logic is pretty stupid
@@MayorMcheese12 That massacre destroyed what would’ve been generations of wealth passed down in those families. But let’s be honest, you don’t care. You’re just salty about the thought of them getting ahead in any way that doesn’t benefit you. Oh well. Sometimes the shoe ends up on the other foot. That’s life.
@@markofisaiah1449 eh not really "salty" about anything. I just think your logic is fucking stupid.
@@markofisaiah1449 but you are right. I don't care
Mr. Bynum, the government's money is not taxpayer's money just as Walmart's money is not Walmart shopper's money. Taxpayers, like shoppers, pay for goods and services (i.e. education, infrastructure, defense, etc.). If it was truly their money, it'd be sitting in their bank accounts; it's not. The city of Tulsa is responsible for murdering its own Black resident's, unjustly imprisoning them, burning their businesses, and stealing their homes and lands. It is the city of Tulsa's responsibility, not it's residents, to pay for the damage and destruction it has caused. No one is knocking on white resident's doors asking for money. People are knocking on the government's door demanding what they are owed - reparations and justice!
Correction Mr Mayor, this generation of Tulsans did not commit the crime but they benefitted from the proceeds of the crime and therefore are equally culpable. By the same token, all through the years while they were benefitting our people were suffering. It is intergenerational; the future cannot be divorced from the past.
Very well articulated brother.
True
If what you are saying is true why is no one seeking reprarations, from those that sold Black Americans into slavery.
I am responsible for a dead persons actions just because I am considered white. Totally ludicrous!
@@andremorse9282 You obviously did not read my comment otherwise you would not have made that stupid remark. I never included all white people; I was referring specifically to the Tulsans. Are Russians responsible for the plight of black people in America? Of course not.
The city can take the amount of recorded proceeds from the date of the event til now.. and adjust income based on those gains then vs now.. then place that total.amount into payment for each family member that possibly could have had lost. Then each claimant has their section to claim If they ever choose
In 1996, 75 years after the massacre, a bipartisan group in the state legislature authorized the formation of the Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921. The commission's final report, published in 2001, states that the city had conspired with the mob of White citizens against Black citizens; it recommended a program of reparations to survivors and their descendants. The state passed legislation to establish scholarships for the descendants of survivors, encourage the economic development of Greenwood, and develop a park in memory of the victims of the massacre in Tulsa. The park was dedicated in 2010. In 2020, the massacre became a part of the Oklahoma school curriculum. In 2021 with the race card a top paycheck its time to get paid.
Or just get a job
@@saintfentanylfloyd6178 or both?
@@dvskid4273 well in real life.. life is no joke.. and reparations is proof of liability. Native american got one.. Japanese.. a large list except.. one group.. all that is gonna happen is people are gonna disagree chaos will dismay.. war break out globally over emotional responses.. just the rules of the world.. already every night it's chaos.. but this just the start.. farmers are quitting due to impossible standards to grow.. famine coming.. other nations then coming as everything is down.. trump knows this he been sold out.. like cya can do the same thing in europe with my wife as president in her country.. give me your money before I go usa supporters of idiocy.. then bam no reparations to repair black community.. aka the entertainment of america.. the allure comes from.african american community.. from inventing rock and roll to punk music.. list goes on.. and a that entertainment can leave.. then what is left ?
@@omnigeddon So people can just piss it away like with so many other government programs and welfare? No.
"We want to create an environment where no one remembers what my great grandpappy did." Mayor
Economic development for Black and Indigenous people would be the best way forward as it relates to reparations.
Get government out the way and culture change will do that.
Economic development also must mean people's assets are protected and respected, which America seems unwilling or incapable of doing. It has to be part of a package of options, in addition to political power and the development of institutions that will win and implement reparations for our communities.
This story isn't in schools and not at the dinner table. Tell our stories!
first time hearing this
There were a lot of race massacres. Tulsa was the biggest, but there were multiple other ones.
The city needs to pay! That is where the money should come from!
Watching this reminds me of how my mom told me her mother-in-law, my grandmother I told her that when she would pray at the Catholic Church, she would not only pray for her son to keep himself out of trouble but for his children, me and my brother to never have harmed find our way because of his actions or anyone else's for that matter. I finally understand why.
Sorry but this event happened over one hundred years ago. The people who are responsible have been dead for decades. If people can start claiming cash reparations for things that happened to their great grandparents, where does it end? Native Americans, Hispanics, Asians, Poles, Irish, and Italians have all been victims of discrimination in the US. Should all of their descendants be able to claim the US government owes them money too?
SORRY MR WHITE SUPREMACY YOU RACE WILL PAY😲😲😲😲😲😲
@@jalisacaple8980 maybe you are the racist. And the word you are looking for is your
@@jalisacaple8980 You are not of sane mind. You need therapy.
But mye Andrew, trying to use logic and reason on a Vice video usually doesn't work :P
@@Augfordpdoggie HOW DOES SUNBURN FEEL IAM BLACK I WOULDN'T KNOW
@@jalisacaple8980 definitely not a racist comment. yikes.
Its absolutely abhorrent that these families are still being denied justice for such a despicable act.
This just hit different.
Could there be: "tax -cut's/even exemption's, FOR: "Black_AmeriCANs and even;
all of those; that: -
"Invest; into them"!?"!!"??
My heart!
This whole report is filled with cutting words. The strike of their frankness caught me off guard.
Again, the fact that so many people learned about this from Watchmen (including myself) is crazy!
I’m from the city but I can feel the racial tension in Tulsa y’all are in my prayers
gentrifying isnt reparations its literally more likely to price out and further disenfranchise survivors in the community
International Criminal Court should investigate this.
And do what
Hate must be the European standard
Our country has a very UGLY past. This is truly disgusting to learn about 100 years later. The people that did this are not Human they are devil's. And I hope their souls are paying for this.
Every country has ugly parts of their pasts. America is not unique in that regard. But our positives outweigh negatives by far.
@@saintfentanylfloyd6178 Everyone forgets that Spain killed more people by bringing in European diseases then anything else. If you want an apology, here, I'm of Portuguese-Asian descent, that's the closest you could get, as the Spaniards didn't apologize to Mexico for this.
@@saintfentanylfloyd6178 compared to other countries true. But we have alot of hate issues to deal with and by sweeping them under a rug makes it U G L Y Tulsa ain't got no Alibi.
@@13ceb No one is sweeping anything. The cast majority of Americans are not racist. However the discourse is kept alive by race hustling activists and politicians for money and power.
@@saintfentanylfloyd6178 says the white man 🤣
That mayor is completely clueless...
He refuses to acknowledge that gentrifying Greenwood will only further alienate the people that live there. Building that pathway & the upcoming museum is a slap in the face to the descendants of the massacre. That money needed to be given to them.
The families of that were victim to this will never see reparations as long as that Mayor is in power.
There are those who say that history is irrelevant, that it is in the past. To them, I say that we remember our history and the ways it remains to this day so that we can prevent these things from ever happening again. Shame on the mayor of Tulsa and his inability to listen to the people and the survivors of this devastating, horrific event in the long history of racial oppression in the United States.
Constantly telling African and Native ppl to wait… and covering up whatever they’re shedding light on.
Do the natives who fought with the confederacy and participated in chattle slavery owe black americans reparations?
If that’s the Case dismiss all 100 year old Treaties.
yeah good idea just throw everything out
Why do people have to pay for things they didn’t do to people who didn’t have anything done to them ?
This.
This wasn’t the only massacre:
Wilmington Coup of 1898
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898
Elaine Massacre:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_massacre
Colfax Massacre:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colfax_massacre
Rosewood Massacre:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood_massacre
Atlanta Massacre of 1906:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_massacre_of_1906
Know your history because they won’t teach you this in school!
They try to get rid of you but y'all only came back stronger stay blessed keep up the good work
Beautiful words . We don't back down . We might be massacred but we came back 100 years later seeking justice . That's resilient!
@Charlotte Miller so hundreds on black ppl died compared to maybe 10? That newspaper was probably lying and there's was way more damage to black owned businesses so much so they couldn't rebuild or re open
This was really emotional to watch😓, thanks for bringing more awareness to it!
great piece
Now you can understand Syria and Palestine... destruction is to create poverty and thus privatization...the fact that people are still disrespectful shows that the spirit of torture and flames is amongst the people
Unfortunately true Justice can not be done all the bastards that committed this heinous crime are not a live to face trial ( I also only learned about this from watchman WTF)
No one is gonna repair all damage so federal government must acknowledge that massacre
I just want to point out what this mayor said about reparations. He said I don't think this generation should have to pay for a crime they didn't commit. That is such a blanket statement. Every week in America there is a lawsuit being paid out to an individual or party by the city for something that everyone in the city didn't have a hand in. Why is, it didn't happen this generation so why should this generation pay for it any different than other settlements and payouts to other individuals. That is infuriating to hear how he uses that logic without even considering the full totality of the statement.
Thank you!
You took the words right out of my mouth! Also they is evidence that the mayor is directly related to the man who was the mayor at the time of the riot.
It was a hundred years ago.....get over it. Act like you're the only people that bad things have happened too; News flash you aren't!
make a video on the wilmington race riot. or even natchez massacre
Vice needs to do a series, each episode on a different race massacre.
Facts fam
Developers, back or white, aren't going to invest in a poor area. It costs the same to build a building in a poor area as it does in a better neighborhood, except one will be worth more after its built, why, location.
If the city was involved, and organized the massacre/terrorist act, the city should pay the settlement. And all the land that was taken, give it back to the descendants or give them an equally sized and value of land. I find the proposal the mayor gave HIGHLY insulting. But they won't give us reparations because it will set precedent and thats what they're trying to avoid. Sometimes I feel the only way they'll get it is if we do unto them the things they did and still do to us. Then I stop myself because I would never want to be that vile and sinister.
Doesn't matter, China will break America financially and South America will break them spiritual 🤷
It’s never time to talk about reparations. Then when it is... it’s too late. Everyone says what about (insert x minority), they deserve reperations too. correct. So how is blacks asking for it taking away from everyone else deserving it too?
@@lazarithdominguez1178 who said that tho?
@@lazarithdominguez1178 who said the government couldn’t reconcile with all of the minority communities that deserve reperations at the same time? I want everyone to get what they deserve.
@@lazarithdominguez1178 okay lazarith. I thought we could have an objective opinion.
@@lazarithdominguez1178 what form of reparations would you like? Please think before answering. I want to have a genuine conversation.
@@lazarithdominguez1178 please keep in mind the US is a capitalist country where money runs just about everything. Also they burned businesses in Tulsa. So why is asking for a monetary compensation viewed, in your opinion, as materialistic ?
SOOOOO DO US NATIVE AMERICANS GET REPERATIONS FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR PEOPLE AND!! LAND!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Where’s the reparations for The Native American Tribes and Native Californians, these are the first people entitled to proper reparations. That sacred land ya(black folk in video)dancing over is graves to other tribes dummies and now it’s claimed as yours. History-is-told-by-the-victors-His-Story
You guys are so dumb. Of course native Americans deserve reparations. And how are you upset that slaves live where they were brought ??? Like they chose to live on top of sacred land.
Glass trinkets not fair payment.
Native American sided with white folks. They allowed them to push you off your land on reservations which have more crime and alcohol abuse than any city that’s on your tribe who made that deal with white folks and you lose you choose the wrong side not black people who were brought here against their will taken from there homeland to be slaves
@@cameronjustin8654
About 90% of the Native Americans who were in what became the United States were killed.
So they could go on the reservations or be murdered.
When people from Europe showed up, there was probably at least 20 million people. By 1900, there were less than a million Native Americans.
The settlers committed genocide.
Im 33 know about this since i was 10
So shocking blacks dont know nothing bout this
You're shocked racists would hide their racism? Wow.
@@joshuaphillips755 ITS not hidden dummy all its take is research or book thats how i found it
@@djkatfishbeats yea because the school curriculum is gonna tell black kids how every time their people built themselves up they were destroyed for it. Nice take though Lib
@@joshuaphillips755 Not shocked at your idiocy.
@@bboykman Whatever ya dummy
Wow I was seriously never aware of this I can’t believe it ... thank you Vice for spreading the word.
Vice is biased. Do more research and make your conclusion. Can’t base your views on one source.
It is a start, glad you have an open mind.
I'm Canadian and I knew about it. Maybe you're just ignorant.
@@FutureBoyWonder so oprah had all her money taken away? When did that happen?
@@RedRedux good for you, eh?
All of these atrocities have been swept under the rug. And nobody says anything? Shame on us
I love Tulsa to death. I left years ago and lived all over, including in the UK. I am proud everyday that we talk about our failings and work on the question "what is owed?" I'd like to answer it together--even before some damn judge says the obvious. I'd like to see fairness and justice be the words used to describe our answer. I am interested in not just in "do I owe a debt?" (I am a child of people that came in the 70's), but "have we restored our people after a loss of community?" Hell, what if we just said, "we used to be the best place to be a Black business owner. Can we be the best place to be a Black business owner in the future?" I would love to come back to Tulsa and find out it's the best place to be Black (full stop). Hell, we should be the best place to be Black for the next 100 years. Not a damn bit of that diminishes living-while-not-Black in Tulsa. Why can't that be a goal?
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Native Americans: “that’s cute”
😐 Wow man you got the whole squad laughing
It was all about our “Black Indian allotted oil land” We were the richest people in the world per capital”
That’s my great uncle Edward Lett!
🔪Cut da Check$$
Get a job
1:15 Why are they dressing in African garments, black people in Tulsa didn’t wear that mess and we definitely were not dancing like that.
self hating clown
@@chacesimpson2856 That’s you bozo
@@ericnewman6523 what's wrong with being in touch with your roots
@@jamaltimmerman7052 Those have not been our “roots” for 400 years. Africans don’t even like black Americans.
I wonder the same thing
Reparations lol isn’t welfare enough
LMAOOOO
The fact that this has so many dislikes is fucking disgusting and super disheartening.
Here’s another, then.
@@Scallycowell Cool story bro
Its as the man said the government makes a problem ,people ask the government for the help to the problem, the government gives a solution to the problem which they already had planned for.
You mean America that admiting guilt.they never will you have to make them do it.
Go back to the sand box.
Never forget the Banana Massacre, El Mozote massacre, and the Dos Erres massacre. USA was involved with these.
These people deserve Compensatory Justice!🤑🤑🤑🤑
Free money won't fix the issue. Pay the survivors, they deserve it. The great-grandsons? No. Tulsa taxpayers aren't responsible for you.
But how do you then address the long lasting economic impact on their great grandchildren.
The city denies involvement... how?
The federal government owes FBA all over this country
nobody is taking about the federal business adminstration here. move along , bored saltine
There is no debate. Giving money to people who weren't alive is just stupid.
I think survivors and direct descendants like a survivors sister, brother, mom, dad, child should be given their land and a grant
No
Chief Amusan is 100% right. Perhaps he should be elected as a rep for the community? Sounds like there needs to be cohesive requests that can be checked off as progress is made. Thoughts of a Canadian citizen
It was A HUNDRED years ago. Kinda telling when the most talked about example of societal racism is something that happened a century ago
what do u mean
@@DB-sf6ir WHAT I SAID
You act like the actions of yesterday don't reverberate today and tomorrow. Slavery, Redlining, Jim crow, the war on "drugs",etc still affect us. It was only around 60 years ago when black people weren't even treated the same as whites. When we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki we helped Japan recover and we did the same for the Southerns during the civil war. We can spend billions of dollars on wars most of us don't want but we can't use any of that money to help U.S. citizens that deserve it? If you benefit off of what your forefathers stole/did then you're still accountable. The sins of our fathers are passed to our sons.
@@ASHtheSLUGCAT 800K Americans died to give African Americans their freedoms. People shooting each other in Chicago or Baltimore today are not doing so because of racism 60 years ago. People aren't robbing Walgreens of everything they can fit in a trash bag because of racism 60 years ago. Rayshard Brooks didn't pass out drunk in his car in a Wendy's drive through and then fight police and take their taser because of racism 60 years ago. Single motherhood incentivized by the social welfare programs instituted by FDR and his new deal is what has lead to poverty issues in the black communities combined with toxic culture that incentivizes gangbanging, baby mommas, and expensive designer clothing over family values and personal responsibilities.
Law enforcement city officials and members of the Klan... Still waiting to know who the other two groups were
Race riot not massacre
300 dead people isn’t a massacre?
@@ad72644 racists never claim to be smart
@@ad72644 36 people died not 300 lmao where di you get that number
@@carlomagno7092 nope the number is 300z
@@ad72644 in your dreams maybe, 36 dead 10 of which white people
Everybody in Tulsa needs to pay. The government of Tulsa did the crime, they need to pay up yesterday. This smug Mayor is out of touch and needs to go
The government… In 1921. The only people who need hand outs are those that can’t give themselves a hand up.
@@Scallycowell That's not how the law works. There are banks and families that are still in possession of stolen property. Some of these victims are still alive today. Any bank or organization would get the money back. It's only the black people who are told to deal with it. I hope they get everything owed to them.
What about if reparations were paid partially in the form of an educational credit for public colleges and universities that already receive federal funding? Education is the fastest way to change a generational outcome. It also incentivizes descendants, that it is not just money being given out, its an opportunity that is there, but you also need to be willing to go get it. The credit could last for period of time 10-20 years, so its not for the rest of time because eventually the equity would even the playing field. Reparations could also be in the form of investigative committees to document as best as possible all of the stories and injustices that have have been buried. Situations of wrongful/illegal land acquisition through documented ownership could restore or at least compensate some generational land. Then moving forward it would be with the understanding that history would never repeat itself, we need to heal our country's wounds so that we can move forward as one people, and one nation together. We honor, remember, and bring justice to the past, and we commit to building the future together for all. I say this as a African American man, a descendant of enslaved people, but also as someone who believes that America and ALL its people are at their best, when its strong and united.
Yeah, this seems pretty probable. Good thinking, from one black person to another
Education only benefits citizens if the jobs they apply to are not owned by racists... Which is why black wall street built their own.
As a half native American, my college degree gets me a series of entry level jobs without benefits with no opportunity for advancement.
Does anyone believe for a single second that race still holds people back in the modern US? A country that has affirmative action to the point of literally hiring minorities to fill mandated quotas?
Absolutely. After agreeing that reparations are justified, the debate if often how these reparations should be given. I absolutely agree that it should be in the form of investment for impoverished and discriminated communities
Reparations definitely aren't justified and there is barely any support for them from the public.
wonder what the white people in that town taught their kids and what are their professions in that area