Hi Marlon, Thank you for your tutorial. It works great on an stereo track. Unfortunately, I do have a MS mic and this gives me two mono channels and I like to make a stereo track with these two signals. Do you have any advise how to do so? Can I use the ms plugin you mentioned for this purpose? Thank you for your help. Best regards Dan
Hi ! You need to bus something first if you want to use a plugin. With MSED pan one mic to the far left and the other one to the far right, route these two to a stereo bus track and insert MSED on that bus with setting decode. That should do the trick. If it sounds weird, swap left and right channels of the mic tracks. It depends on which one is the mid and which one is the sides signal.
When using the Voxengo MSED plugin, it does as expected. The Mid signal from it sounded like a mono signal while the side signal on the other hand almost sounded like a mono signal and not the fully separated stereo side signal. When combined together, it sounds like the unaltered track. I’m confused as to why this is.
That’s because the sides signal cannot exist without the mid signal. You get a very weird sounding out of phase sound when you solo the sides. That’s what it’s supposed to do ;-)
Hey! Depends a bit which eq you have. if you have an eq which can de left and right independatlyly, encode into m/s with msed , left channel is mid and right channel will be side on teh eq. Put another msed after that in decode to make it stereo again. If you dont have such an eq you can do several thing: Duplicate the track you want m/s on, set one to side mute ( = mid solo) and the other to mid mute ( = sides solo) and eq howere you feel like, send these track both to a stereo bus, make sure the mid track is left and the sides is right and use decode on msed. Or go from a stereo track send to seperate busses, one for mid , the other for sides and do the rest as above. Hope it helps!
@@audiotoolshed Oh my gosh!! Why did I not think of this. Haha. You're awesome! I've been looking for a free eq ms vst. Unfortunately there are none. And since my pockets are empty, I couldn't buy me one. But this workaround just fixes it :) Also, for the second tip, would msed be able to decode, considering we did not' 'encode' (using msed, although the plugin would split the signal in the same way) to begin with. Because technically We just split it and input it to the buss.
@@lolkitchen2208 Hey! Great! yeah on teh second: decode / encode are just how msed names it. It's from stereoto ms and ms to stereo.So als long as the input to msed is like i said ( left mid, right sides) it will decode fine.
Hey! Can you please help me to activate bx solo? I work on fl studio 20, i've installed it at least 5 times and every time it gives me an error when i try to activate it. I will be very grateful if you can help me!
Hey Todor! You need a plugin alliance account to activate the plugin. It's totally free and they throw in a few more free plugins too. www.plugin-alliance.com/en/registration.html
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amazing! i have had that issue of being a bit off center before, nice fix
Honestly amazing explanation and walkthrough its perfect. Thank you sir
Thanks for your kind words!!
this is nice, i have been experimenting using a lavalier as side mic and a dynamic for the mid and sounds so much richer than the dynamic alone
yeah a mid side config can work nice indeed. Makes it more 3d.
Hi Marlon,
Thank you for your tutorial. It works great on an stereo track. Unfortunately, I do have a MS mic and this gives me two mono channels and I like to make a stereo track with these two signals.
Do you have any advise how to do so? Can I use the ms plugin you mentioned for this purpose?
Thank you for your help.
Best regards
Dan
Hi !
You need to bus something first if you want to use a plugin. With MSED pan one mic to the far left and the other one to the far right, route these two to a stereo bus track and insert MSED on that bus with setting decode. That should do the trick. If it sounds weird, swap left and right channels of the mic tracks. It depends on which one is the mid and which one is the sides signal.
Thanks for quick video!
And thank you for watching!!!!
When using the Voxengo MSED plugin, it does as expected. The Mid signal from it sounded like a mono signal while the side signal on the other hand almost sounded like a mono signal and not the fully separated stereo side signal. When combined together, it sounds like the unaltered track. I’m confused as to why this is.
That’s because the sides signal cannot exist without the mid signal. You get a very weird sounding out of phase sound when you solo the sides. That’s what it’s supposed to do ;-)
Hey Marlin, I have a question
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If I encode to mid and side, can I use it within the daw itself to eq, and then decode? If yes, how?
Hey! Depends a bit which eq you have.
if you have an eq which can de left and right independatlyly, encode into m/s with msed , left channel is mid and right channel will be side on teh eq. Put another msed after that in decode to make it stereo again.
If you dont have such an eq you can do several thing:
Duplicate the track you want m/s on, set one to side mute ( = mid solo) and the other to mid mute ( = sides solo) and eq howere you feel like, send these track both to a stereo bus, make sure the mid track is left and the sides is right and use decode on msed.
Or go from a stereo track send to seperate busses, one for mid , the other for sides and do the rest as above.
Hope it helps!
@@audiotoolshed Oh my gosh!! Why did I not think of this. Haha. You're awesome!
I've been looking for a free eq ms vst. Unfortunately there are none. And since my pockets are empty, I couldn't buy me one. But this workaround just fixes it :)
Also, for the second tip, would msed be able to decode, considering we did not' 'encode' (using msed, although the plugin would split the signal in the same way) to begin with. Because technically We just split it and input it to the buss.
@@lolkitchen2208 Hey! Great! yeah on teh second: decode / encode are just how msed names it. It's from stereoto ms and ms to stereo.So als long as the input to msed is like i said ( left mid, right sides) it will decode fine.
@@audiotoolshed Perfecto! You earned yourself a subscriber :)
Booooya!!!!! Thanks :-) and welcome!
I thought it was my phone vibrating at the beginning, lol. Good video, thanks for the good work.
hahah thanks for your kind words ;-)
So, is it something like Center from Waves audio, but for free??
Yeah sort of.
@@audiotoolshed i ll get this one for sure! Thank you very much!
Hey! Can you please help me to activate bx solo? I work on fl studio 20, i've installed it at least 5 times and every time it gives me an error when i try to activate it. I will be very grateful if you can help me!
Hey Todor! You need a plugin alliance account to activate the plugin. It's totally free and they throw in a few more free plugins too. www.plugin-alliance.com/en/registration.html
I have the same problem with FL studio as well. It may not work with FL studio.
The same answer is still valid. Also check if your installing the right plugin version. Vst2 or vst3, au etc. What is the error exactly?
Hey i know but what is main purpose of this msed plugin
I would say mid side processing and stereo width control.
Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
tip, double click the knob and it will reset
Bye the way i subscribed
Thanks!