I never knew there was a difference in grip between the pendulum and the reverse pendulum serve. Changing my grip and using the other tips of this video really helped. I've been practicing this serve for months but I just couldn't master it, but now with this change it grip I have a lot more control over my serve and I can get a lot more spin. Thanks for the video!
I found one issue with this technique that prevented me from mastering this serve for a long time. My issue was the handle was brushing against my wrist preventing a clean motion for generating a the spin from wrist. Looked at a Eli Baraty video where he suggests some techniques but did not work well for me. My solution was to grip the racket lower towards the bottom of the handle. Seems to work well as the bottom of the handle is no longer in way of wrist snap
It was a lot of fun to practice this serve. I did it step by step. In the end, I used the forearm and wrist more. Then the serves were really good. Not perfect, of course. I have to create more spin. Practice creates masters. Thanks again for the tips.
Finally a good tutorial on this serve ever on internet. Not even paid coaching lessons online have this level of good explanation. Nice work right there! I'll start learning this serve, since everyone knows and return easily all of the ones I already have.
Nice tutorial. Already knew most of it, maybe appart from the grip change, but I think I've been doing it subconciously lol. Anyhow, it's also a nice serve to mix up a bit more. Like fast long top/side spin serves (as with pendulum, but opposite sidespin). Or brush it 'close to' purely sideways/horizontally under the ball where the spin will be pretty dead on normal recieves. or alternatively just do a no-spin serve that looks like 'heavy underspin' (no-spin serves that looks like underspin kicks ass) You can also make a decent short/low "top spin" serve where you contact the ball the oposite way compared to the underspin version, as in, "away from the table under the ball" but still enough 'upward' for the ball to move forward and over the net. Which is actually easier with the reverse than the normal pendulum. At least deceptive wise. If your opponent is not observant (or high level) they will try cut it normally and it will jump upwards. :) Just my own variants of this serve, I'd be delighted to hear more.
This is the hardest serve for me. So many different ways to do it, but I think you need to pick the way best for you body ability. I'm going to try this technique now.
Great practical guide, only thing I would add is to point out the strategic value of the reverse pendulum is as a mix up. A big element to work on is making your start position identical to a normal pendulum and to execute the movement as quickly and late as possible.
Dan & Tom, Thank you for this excellent lesson of mastering the reverse pendulum serve which is very useful to me. I am trying to learn this to replace my tradition BH serve. Thanks guys! 👍✌🏓
A regular, bread and butter pendulum serve tutorial would be incredibly helpful. A lot of the "tutorials" I've run into lack the clarity of the one I saw here today. Thanks for the content
I’ve been getting back into ping pong a lot lately. I’ve played a lot back in high school. I really love it, lots of fun. So much skill, strategy involved here, reminds me of chess. 🙂 I really enjoy having a bunch of various serves so your opponent doesn’t get used to the serve when you’re serving so many different ones. This serve looks do able. I’ll work hard and add this one to my Repertoire. 😆 Great video! 👍🏽👍🏽
hank you guys. I recently found your videos And I really learning new stuff or mastering what I knew already. Thanks for the great job you are doing. Sas
Very nice! I was doing that instinctively! I am glad that I see you doing the same way! The body rotation linked with the arm action facilitate a lot the position of your serve. Thanks guys!
Hey guys thanks a lot this really helped me. I loved this video keep it up... Also I was hoping u guys could put up a video on how to do the reverse tomohauk.. thanks😊
In many of the examples the hitting point of the serve is across the backline of the table, which is an illegal serve. Now please do a review of Nittaku Acoustic.
Hi Dan, I am avid follower of your videos and reviews. I would like to make a suggestion here. Many players are aware of how to make a reverse pendulum serve, but are afraid of using it in a match. This includes me. Many amateur players work on different serves but we don't know the correct placement of the serve and are not sure what to do when someone receives it either from F/H or B/H. So if you please give some thought on this and cover this in your next video then it would be really helpful to everyone.
Hey Mudit, thanks for your nice comment, and I agree we should definitely mention this and take this into consideration more in the future. We actually have tons of videos on serve placement and the follower up shot on the Academy. We will bear this in mind, thanks Mudit :)
Thanks Dan, Basically a side spin if received correctly will also spin back or away from the server. In either case it is important for the server to anticipate the movement and move accordingly. If as a player I use one serve as a dominant serve and use the other one sparingly I am less prepared for the other serve kicking differently. That was my point which I requested you to consider.
i love you videos it helps me a lot in table tenneis becouse i always lose against my friends:( but now im learning from you so i will become a lot better and a subscribed:)
Thanks for this excellent reverse serve tutorial. Found it really helpful. I'd also like to learn how to smash high balls better. Can you please do a tutorial for that?
I still feel that more info - and a taster video would be good for the Per Gerell course. I can't really see what I'm getting - length of video, quality of shots, split screen, ultra slow motion etc. etc. I'd be interested in buying the course if I could see a sample.
@@guntherschabus3458 Thanks for that. Taken on the course with that recommendation. TTD, I still think there's room for more info that might get others interested - for example the topspin serve; is that backhand AND forehand? I'll add a review of sorts when I get onto practising.
Just got the videos ready to learn - can I suggest that you make the sequencing easier to follow. Week 1 follows the introduction video, and assumes that you know what the grip is, but the grip video isn't in that sequence - should you watch the other videos before the weekly course?
What is shown is this vid is more like a European style , which can be seen from Pitchford, Franziska , Falck and etc, but the Chinese reverse pendulum serve is another school , presented by ZJk, FZD and LJK , their toss is higher and a bit further from their body within more forhand and wrist shaking, and more explosive power , more spins and more deceptiveness, but all in all the key of chinese reverse pendulum serve is using the center of weight (core) , look at FZD how he swings his body back and forward to get the insane spin .
Does tensor rubbers make this serve more difficult? Mine bounces all over and either flies off the bat too fast to spin or does not make it over the net. I cant seem to get the ball to dwell the same way that is demonstrated in the video!
Heyyaa.. Your Videos are just per-fect.. simply explained.. but, is there a way to practice serves alone at home or something? cuz, I am desperate to learn serves but it's a bit different here.. if I start practicing the serves with someone, they'll start feeling like it's a waste of time for them (maybe it is).. and you won't get a table all for youself here .. so, is there anything I can do at home to get the spin and then practice the serve on the table for a few mins or something?? thanks a lot for ur vids
total rookie question, but wouldn't it be a bit awkward to transition back to your normal grip after serving in preparation for the 3rd ball? Great content and tutorial, thanks!
It takes practice. Most pros use the pinch grip on almost every serve and have to readjust their grip back to shakehand in a split second. So it's pretty normal.
I am having a hard time getting past step 1. Been trying a lot without success> Major problems : 1) ball hits the top of net and bounces back most of the time (2) sometimes the ball comes off the racket like it just slips off with no spin and very weak and never go very far (3) when I try to adjust with more force to go over net, it will miss bounce on my side and just shoot over the net. (4) The very few times when successful, bounce on other side seems weak
Can u show our family about serve of yoshimura whenever u can thanks a lot ??because Japanese Yoshimora serve pendulum look special not like Timo . Thanks again
Super sticky, high spin, can be fast with full stroke, not sensitive to spin on service return so the short game is amazing, lasts a long time if you clean it properly.
Because of the sidespin the opponent can realistically only return it to one side of table (the same side you served from). This allows you to ready yourself and attack the next ball comfortably as you know where the return will go.
Jan, beginners need a medium speed blade and most 5-ply all wood blades are just that. They are flexible and you can really feel the ball. There's no better blade to develop your game with. I recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra. It's only $29 USD
Hi. When you do the first step in this video, after you bend your wrist backwards towards your belly, where does the ball first hit the racket when you flick it. I'm having a hard time seeing where you first starting brushing the ball. Is it the front or the back of the racket? Look forward to hearing from you. Thank you.
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U are better than Pongfinity
I helped you a lot with the tendle service I want to learn for a long time and i think IT Will be my main service!! 😊
You are better than the yang yang channel at explaining it
Yes, i like that serve
Yes it's an amazing service
I was looking for such a clear and well explained reverse pendulum serve tutorial. I Will start to practice it in my next training session.
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I never knew there was a difference in grip between the pendulum and the reverse pendulum serve. Changing my grip and using the other tips of this video really helped. I've been practicing this serve for months but I just couldn't master it, but now with this change it grip I have a lot more control over my serve and I can get a lot more spin. Thanks for the video!
This by far the best explanation of how to do this serve correctly. 👍👍
I found one issue with this technique that prevented me from mastering this serve for a long time. My issue was the handle was brushing against my wrist preventing a clean motion for generating a the spin from wrist. Looked at a Eli Baraty video where he suggests some techniques but did not work well for me. My solution was to grip the racket lower towards the bottom of the handle. Seems to work well as the bottom of the handle is no longer in way of wrist snap
Great tutorial! I will try this serve in a few minutes when the training session starts. Thanks a lot! Keep it up!. ;-)
Hey Franky, great stuff, have a good session let us know how you get on :)
It was a lot of fun to practice this serve. I did it step by step. In the end, I used the forearm and wrist more. Then the serves were really good. Not perfect, of course. I have to create more spin. Practice creates masters. Thanks again for the tips.
Finally a good tutorial on this serve ever on internet. Not even paid coaching lessons online have this level of good explanation. Nice work right there! I'll start learning this serve, since everyone knows and return easily all of the ones I already have.
Nice tutorial. Already knew most of it, maybe appart from the grip change, but I think I've been doing it subconciously lol.
Anyhow, it's also a nice serve to mix up a bit more. Like fast long top/side spin serves (as with pendulum, but opposite sidespin).
Or brush it 'close to' purely sideways/horizontally under the ball where the spin will be pretty dead on normal recieves.
or alternatively just do a no-spin serve that looks like 'heavy underspin' (no-spin serves that looks like underspin kicks ass)
You can also make a decent short/low "top spin" serve where you contact the ball the oposite way compared to the underspin version, as in, "away from the table under the ball" but still enough 'upward' for the ball to move forward and over the net. Which is actually easier with the reverse than the normal pendulum. At least deceptive wise.
If your opponent is not observant (or high level) they will try cut it normally and it will jump upwards. :)
Just my own variants of this serve, I'd be delighted to hear more.
Could you do a tomohawk tutorial next?
This is the hardest serve for me. So many different ways to do it, but I think you need to pick the way best for you body ability. I'm going to try this technique now.
Great practical guide, only thing I would add is to point out the strategic value of the reverse pendulum is as a mix up. A big element to work on is making your start position identical to a normal pendulum and to execute the movement as quickly and late as possible.
Thanks for this, clear explanation! Wasn't sure I was ever be able to learn this one, but with this clear tutorial I should be able to.
Dan & Tom, Thank you for this excellent lesson of mastering the reverse pendulum serve which is very useful to me. I am trying to learn this to replace my tradition BH serve. Thanks guys! 👍✌🏓
A regular, bread and butter pendulum serve tutorial would be incredibly helpful. A lot of the "tutorials" I've run into lack the clarity of the one I saw here today.
Thanks for the content
Dan u r really doing well bro...congrats from India
I’ve been getting back into ping pong a lot lately. I’ve played a lot back in high school. I really love it, lots of fun. So much skill, strategy involved here, reminds me of chess. 🙂 I really enjoy having a bunch of various serves so your opponent doesn’t get used to the serve when you’re serving so many different ones. This serve looks do able. I’ll work hard and add this one to my Repertoire. 😆 Great video! 👍🏽👍🏽
Hey Dan this video is soooooo cool are your videos I always enjoy! Keep going! I love your channel!
Wonderful for beginners as well as for senior players. All the tips are to be paracticed.
Far way the simplest explaination of this type of serve, easy to look but hard to do, motivated to do the basic to improve in the future
I really like it and I used the serve and won almost all my games cuz of the serve
I've tried to learn this thing for months without success. This video did the trick. Thanks
I think it will help me a lot in future contests, thank you guys.🎉
hank you guys. I recently found your videos And I really learning new stuff or mastering what I knew already. Thanks for the great job you are doing.
Sas
thanks for making this video I am really trying to master the reverse pendulum for so long
Very nice! I was doing that instinctively! I am glad that I see you doing the same way! The body rotation linked with the arm action facilitate a lot the position of your serve. Thanks guys!
Very useful tutorial. You both are really best experts, so far as tutorials are concerned.
I was knowing all the serve's but not this but now I know this serve too thanks.
Hey guys thanks a lot this really helped me. I loved this video keep it up... Also I was hoping u guys could put up a video on how to do the reverse tomohauk.. thanks😊
In many of the examples the hitting point of the serve is across the backline of the table, which is an illegal serve. Now please do a review of Nittaku Acoustic.
ReversePendulum most stylish, coolest serve in TT but very difficult thanks Dan👍🏼
Looking at timos serves is a whole different level, I just can't do it like that
Bonjour, merci pour les conseils. J ai enfin compris le mouvement du bras dans le backspin.
Thank you.
thank you so give me more with simple and easy to understand explanation.
Very nice 👍 ,clear demonstration...keep posting..God bless 🙏
Hi Dan, I am avid follower of your videos and reviews. I would like to make a suggestion here. Many players are aware of how to make a reverse pendulum serve, but are afraid of using it in a match. This includes me. Many amateur players work on different serves but we don't know the correct placement of the serve and are not sure what to do when someone receives it either from F/H or B/H. So if you please give some thought on this and cover this in your next video then it would be really helpful to everyone.
Hey Mudit, thanks for your nice comment, and I agree we should definitely mention this and take this into consideration more in the future. We actually have tons of videos on serve placement and the follower up shot on the Academy. We will bear this in mind, thanks Mudit :)
Thanks Dan, Basically a side spin if received correctly will also spin back or away from the server. In either case it is important for the server to anticipate the movement and move accordingly. If as a player I use one serve as a dominant serve and use the other one sparingly I am less prepared for the other serve kicking differently. That was my point which I requested you to consider.
excellent explaining and demonstrating
Good to make it clear to avoid making your serve over the table. Getting pretty close to throwing the ball over the table here.
i love you videos it helps me a lot in table tenneis becouse i always lose against my friends:( but now im learning from you so i will become a lot better and a subscribed:)
You guys are great. Thanks a lot for all this thorough analysis and explanation.
Excellent explanation and perfect camera work!
Thanks for this excellent reverse serve tutorial. Found it really helpful.
I'd also like to learn how to smash high balls better. Can you please do a tutorial for that?
thanks a lot i had trouble doing this serve
Hey Moon glad you enjoyed the video. Hope your serve improves keep up the practice :)
I still feel that more info - and a taster video would be good for the Per Gerell course. I can't really see what I'm getting - length of video, quality of shots, split screen, ultra slow motion etc. etc. I'd be interested in buying the course if I could see a sample.
I find the course very useful. I bought it and learned a lot. 👍
@@guntherschabus3458 Thanks for that. Taken on the course with that recommendation. TTD, I still think there's room for more info that might get others interested - for example the topspin serve; is that backhand AND forehand? I'll add a review of sorts when I get onto practising.
Just got the videos ready to learn - can I suggest that you make the sequencing easier to follow. Week 1 follows the introduction video, and assumes that you know what the grip is, but the grip video isn't in that sequence - should you watch the other videos before the weekly course?
This was very well done, thanks
Thanks Fricer :)
Can you do one for the regular pendulum serve please? This was super helpful :)
Make a video on fast service
Nice superp brothers
Amazing, thanks a lot.
This is great!
What is shown is this vid is more like a European style , which can be seen from Pitchford, Franziska , Falck and etc, but the Chinese reverse pendulum serve is another school , presented by ZJk, FZD and LJK , their toss is higher and a bit further from their body within more forhand and wrist shaking, and more explosive power , more spins and more deceptiveness, but all in all the key of chinese reverse pendulum serve is using the center of weight (core) , look at FZD how he swings his body back and forward to get the insane spin .
I was thinking the same thing. I perform the reverse pendulum with the Chinese technique. I find to be more graceful as well.
very helpful video, thank you very much.
Does tensor rubbers make this serve more difficult? Mine bounces all over and either flies off the bat too fast to spin or does not make it over the net. I cant seem to get the ball to dwell the same way that is demonstrated in the video!
Thx so much. This was very helpful. Keep it up!! 👏👏👏🏓🏓
Should I use a soft rubber (Butterfly Tackiness Drive) and a hard rubber (DHS Hurricane 3 Neo) on the same bat?
well made video and exactly great tutorial step by step .. thanks a lot
Definitely my overused serve. Started through Smirnov
Thanks you so much I have learned it
Thanks for sharing
In the grip can the bat handle be underneath the wrist
Heyyaa.. Your Videos are just per-fect.. simply explained.. but, is there a way to practice serves alone at home or something? cuz, I am desperate to learn serves but it's a bit different here.. if I start practicing the serves with someone, they'll start feeling like it's a waste of time for them (maybe it is).. and you won't get a table all for youself here .. so, is there anything I can do at home to get the spin and then practice the serve on the table for a few mins or something??
thanks a lot for ur vids
Thank you
Thanks you coach
Great Guys, great tips.
total rookie question, but wouldn't it be a bit awkward to transition back to your normal grip after serving in preparation for the 3rd ball? Great content and tutorial, thanks!
It takes practice. Most pros use the pinch grip on almost every serve and have to readjust their grip back to shakehand in a split second. So it's pretty normal.
Once you are used to it, it's automatic and very quick. I don't even think about that after serving and the bat is ready for the next shot.
Thanks!
You recommend doing the diagonal variation?
if you could add more videos for the other serves, it would help.. thanks Dan and tom.
Thanks
I love it
How about for penhold players?
I am having a hard time getting past step 1. Been trying a lot without success> Major problems : 1) ball hits the top of net and bounces back most of the time (2) sometimes the ball comes off the racket like it just slips off with no spin and very weak and never go very far (3) when I try to adjust with more force to go over net, it will miss bounce on my side and just shoot over the net. (4) The very few times when successful, bounce on other side seems weak
Million thanks! Your are awesome!
FINALLY 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the good video
Can u show our family about serve of yoshimura whenever u can thanks a lot ??because Japanese Yoshimora serve pendulum look special not like Timo . Thanks again
Thank you!!!
Rasanter R53 Please 🙏😉👋
thank you kindly
Please A Tuturial Of Third Ball Attack
awesome this tehnicue
Which table tennis racket do you use
Dude, nice control around the 2 minute mark keeping all of those balls on the table. Not easy to do that consistently.
It is not that hard..
Hey
Great video
#7
please upload video from back side, so we can easily understand movement
Thanks❤🇮🇶
Do a rewiew on the Tenergy 64 pls
Can you guys please review hurricane 3
Super sticky, high spin, can be fast with full stroke, not sensitive to spin on service return so the short game is amazing, lasts a long time if you clean it properly.
What about forhand side spin serve
how toserve tomahwk serve
Do some penhold tricks too please.
Thanks dan
Could you do the normal pendulum serve please
Take like a like, great work, next is tomahawk.
Love love
Is it key to make the serve short
What are the advantages of this serve? Since its so difficult there has to be some good reasons?
Because of the sidespin the opponent can realistically only return it to one side of table (the same side you served from). This allows you to ready yourself and attack the next ball comfortably as you know where the return will go.
I agree with Harry. Also the fact that it is less common so you can really shock players in tournaments who haven't encountered it before.
Can you show how to do deviation serve
Just want to ask if u have any blade recommendation that is not too expensive for beginner
Jan, beginners need a medium speed blade and most 5-ply all wood blades are just that. They are flexible and you can really feel the ball. There's no better blade to develop your game with. I recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra. It's only $29 USD
I wonder if this is harder to do with non-tacky european style rubbers that has this catapult effect sponge on it. Can someone confirm?
Hi. When you do the first step in this video, after you bend your wrist backwards towards your belly, where does the ball first hit the racket when you flick it. I'm having a hard time seeing where you first starting brushing the ball. Is it the front or the back of the racket? Look forward to hearing from you. Thank you.
WTF I WAS JUST PRACTICING THIS SERVE
Haha good timing!
TableTennisDaily never happened to me before! WOW
Good job Mr. Bean
how to counter heavy side spin serve