the fusion spells with any Jacks is funny imo, jack brothers, Yuki summons them and just walks away.. and on King and I, King frost knocks over Yuki right after summoning
I came back to this video to say the same thing. The gameplay feels a lot faster paced or even 'organized' to say. Without context somebody who's never seen this franchise (Or at least the first clip) wouldn't even know he was pulling a trigger to do that. Beautiful transitions while keeping the class.
I'm pretty sure he still does it during the windup animation but the windup animation is now part of opening the persona skills menu, they sacrificed some style for snappier combat. I miss the spin too but I think overall it makes fights feel better and faster.
@@spacecatsolar The problem with the evoker draw animation is that the menu interface obstructs it. And don't get me started on that out of character bunnyhop that Mitsuru does.
i mean, it's where the word orgy comes from so the double meaning is probably intentional, Orgia were secret rites for the worship of Dionysus, and then it meant any celebration with excessive debauchery, that's why it means "group sex" now Orgia (Greek) -> Orgia (Latin) -> Orgie (French) -> Orgy (English)
You can use TWO PERSONAS?! I am still playing through P5R and never thought using 2 personas at the same time would be a thing. This makes me even more excited when i pick persona 3 reload later on
@@jishan6992 It's only during the fusion moves (named Theurgy in Reload), which basically serve the purpose of a typical "Ultimate" move (or for a more direct comparison, like a single person Showtime from P5R). You cannot literally equip two Personas at the same time.
@@gabunne i might as well have figured but still cool af, i saw the theurgy thing but never really understood what that was, the animations are so smooth and flowing in persona 3R
It's so cool how they streamlined most of the late game battle mechanics via Theurgy, along with giving everyone else cool new skills. Orgia mode is now an all-out finisher, rather than a situational/mostly useless command mode.
@@ApexGale Oh yeah I know, but I prefer to use Orgia mode near the end of a battle. Aigis overheating is detrimental in any major boss fight, so I make sure she can finish the fight before it happens.
To be fair, they're still there just less clear. The two best examples are makoto's first theurgy and yukari's. Makoto looks like he accidentally used a real gun and is just dying in slow motion while yukari briefly looks the same.
@Next-GenNeptune It actually makes perfect sense. I think you need to work on your reading comprehension. In the first game she seemed like an actual robot, in new game she seems not as robotic, as if she is actually a human simply pretending. The fact you just agreed with kichiroumitsurugis comment means you are literally agreeing with the OP because that is what the OP is implying.
I absolutely love how in original p3 special attacks like jack brothers have a special gun firing animation. It's one of the coolest things I've ever seen. I wish they kept that...
Yk what Jack Brothers actually sort of represents now that I think abt it, that one scene with kenji & makoto & their comedic moment. Especially since Kenji is magican, & so are the personas.
I would say it's more that both are based on manzai, a type of Japanese stand up comedy that has two people, a silly character and a straight man, and the two of them make puns
@@xt6997 it's not Nintendo's call. They need the yearly games because of all the non-game stuff that depend on them. The anime, cards, plushes, merch, films. Nintendo owns about a third of the Pokemon brand at most. Not enough to make any decisions
@@velvetbutterflyit actually is nintendos call and Pokémon is a multi billion dollar brand. Nintendo and/or the devs of mainline Pokémon games want to release yearly because thats annual profits. Pokemon company does NOT depend on the revenue of their mainline games.
@@garaktartv3647 I think the cut to the enemies being knocked down after the punchline is way funnier than Jack Frost slapping (hi-fiving?) Pyro Jack and then them taking damage
@@bureahuwaito I'm pretty sure they're doing a manzai which is a popular Japanese type of stand up comedy with a funny man and straight man (boke and tsukkomi) and the hand slap movement is part of the comedy routine done by the straight man
Yeah, and now it's literally just the big damage button without any risks that used to come with the OG move. Great evolution! Let's just dumb the whole game down
Person who played the original Persona 3: "Wow, they really took advantage of the advances of technology and the recent games' presentation style!" Me, who's only played Personas 1 and 5: **sees **0:05**** "E-excuse me...??" 😦
@@AlfredoTaken That is generally due to the way she uses certain words, ending off phrases with "as they say" extremely often, even if those phrases are supposed to be commonly known
Really I think it's mostly the execution over the actual limitations of the technology of the time. If persona 3 had as big of a budget and as much time put into it as persona 5, even if it came out on the ps2, could've looked closer to this than you may think.
Never played any of these games, but in the first 10 seconds you choose an attack, the guy yells, shoots himself, and then two little guys tell a joke or something
@@noahhughes121 I'll divide the explanation into 2 comments, first is the first half of the video; the one you questioned, but I felt like explaining the second clip should anyone else wish to read. Personas are manifestations of the human psyche. How one summons one can vary. One way is to be pushed to extremes and it comes out of desperation. By putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger, even a fake one, it can trick your body and put you into that desperate state; forcing the Persona out. The IRL original concept was that the gun was real and that the Persona would heal the damage before the user would die. The finalized concept and in-game explanation is that the gun, called an Evoker, houses a Plume of Dusk that resonates with a Persona and helps call it out. And while the psychology factor does help as said above, the reason a gun was chosen was basically because it was cool and convinced someone to join the exploration team long ago, other forms do exist however. The protagonist, pictured in the first half, has some special abilities. 1: he can use numerous Personas at will. And 2: he is capable of summoning 2 at once. The skill chosen, Jack Bros, features Jack Frost and Pyro Jack (Jack o' Lantern). The animation references a traditional type of Japanese comedy I forget the name up. Basically one acts silly or naïve and the other is a straight man that reacts or asks questions. The enemies suddenly collapse to the floor in reaction to the (presumably bad) jokes. Which is a trope you probably seen happen if you ever watched even clips of any slice of life, romance, or comedy anime. Or even more general series such as Pokemon have used it from time to time. The remake's attack is changed mechanically, but ultimately the same thing happens.
In the second clip, Aigis activates Orgia Mode. If the name didn't clue you in, there is a Greek theme in the game. Aigis being the name of Zeus' shield IIRC, and Orgia being Greek for "frenzied". Yes the joke is obvious. That's because that adult term comes from the fact people would do it frenziedly. As she's a robot, using the skill removes her limiters. In canon this makes all her attributes go into overdrive, but can only last so long before she starts breaking down. In the original, she would simply get a special buff for a few turns, with a steamy aura indicating she is pushing her limits. In the remake she starts off with a strong AoE attack with a flashy animation and then has the aforementioned buff as a bonus.
I'm probably in the minority but for the MC animations, i kinda prefer the original. It makes way more sense that using two personas at once would cause a massive toll on the person, hence why he becomes a bit limp after shooting. Especially since this also uses a lot of mp. Its a risky move on whether to use the fusion spell but in reload its just "Hey look at this cool thing" I know its within the theuagy mechanic but for that at least it lost the magic.
The older animations took advantage of the limitations to really show the personality. While the new animations are definitely more detailed, it feels like it's missing a bit of that original kick. They added a bit more in the way the character walks out of frame at the comedy bit, but it's not quite enough. Just kinda feels like an imitation of p5 rather than a translation of p3.
Watching this with no context (never played a Persona game) was pretty funny. May I ask why the dude shot himself in the head at 0:03 and money flew out, lol?
It's not money. It's... not sure if it has a name. It's like the soul being given form. Those shards form the Persona being summoned. The P3 cast shoot themselves to summon their Personas. They need to put their bodies and minds under extreme stress in order to force their Personas out. They don't have a contract like in 5, they didn't embrace theirselves like 4, and they don't have Philemon's blessing like 1 and 2, so they have to work a lot harder to bring it out. Although the gun isn't really a gun. It houses a Plume of Dusk, a fragment of the collective unconscious, which resonates with the Persona inside someone and more easily calls it out.
The plasma wings on aegis in orgia mode make the whole mechanic so much cooler that I actually use it in reload where I almost never touched it in FES. Feels more on par with a proper mecha power up or tokusatsu/power rangers battlizer mode rather than just a berserk aura.
If anyone with a language that has their roots on Latin is wondering. Aegis mode just basically means “frenzy” in greek. So you can consider it a “berserk mode/transformation”, and not that other thing you have in mind.
I don't think it's so much a thing of advancement in animation quality, I mean a little bit yes, but it's more a thing of budget. When Persona 3 was made Atlus didn't have the budget that they do now they've done P5 which was a giant success in multiple platforms.
I'm not sure what the opinion I'm supposed to have is, but the original game is cleaner and easier to look at. I can't stomach all the swirly bs and quick animations of the new one.
I still think the PS2 version looks great to this day. P3 FES still is my favorite game of all time and Persona 3 Reload is almost just as good as FES to me. It's just not better because I have a huge nostalgia for the original, but I appreciate everything they made better on Reload and I think P3 Reload it's objectively the best Persona 3 game so far.
I want to give this remake a chance, but the new voice cast just completely kills it for me. :/ It's a shame too because the new models and animations look fantastic. Though, seeing how Orgia Mode was changed... That's another mark against the game, imo. I liked having it as a last ditch option that carried risk. Here, it just looks like a free win button. It's sad that new fans of the series probably won't ever go back and experience the gem that was the original (or FES. Either way, really.)
Alejandro Saab made a really good point that I tend to agree with, the only people that complain about the voice changes are the ones that never gave the game a chance, obviously there will be some cases where this isn't true but from my personal experience I was really not used to aigis and akihikos voice changes, but by the time I finished they were both just as good as the originals, Fuuka sounds a lot better then the others just sound the same to me so I didn't really have an issue with those, also most games tend to be easier than their og counterparts unfortunately that's just something I've gotten used to
@@StevenMcSteve I thought some of the new voices were alright when I listened to a comparison. Fuuka's is definitely an improvement. But some of them, Akihiko's especially, just sound terrible in my honest opinion. I want to give the remake a chance, as I said, but even beyond the voice changes, there have been things I've heard and seen that just dissuade me from paying for it because those things go against the claim the devs made about wanting to stay faithful to the original game.
@@JROTGS Reload is so flashy its lost its soul. OG animations are efficiently animated and made with passion on a console that was duct taped together to work. P3 was a miracle game made on a shoestring budget. P3R is just a souless cash grab censored to hell and content cut from the OG aslo is costs double the original did. 70$ is ridiculous for a game that as a "to be continued" at the end.
@@snintendog again, you're completely wrong. Like I said before the animations are in no way soulless, they just look cleaner. You've been brainwashed by the media into thinking anything that looks good is automatically soulless because it's doesn't look like it came out of an apple 2 computer. P3R isn't censored either. The only thing they really censored heavily was that beach scene, and that scene completely deserved to be removed as it was transphobic. It's not a cash grab either, there's obvious passion put into P3R.
@@snintendogyou're wrong in every way. First off the original orgia mode doesn't even have an animation, it's literally just Aigis with an aura and slightly buffed attacks. And the new jack Brothers animation is literally just the old one with better graphics. You're just hating to hate, persona 3 reload is better than the original in every aspect
@@mental9080As someone who hasn't played either game, the old one for the guy dual summonig jack frost and jackolantern is better. Not for the graphics, but for the impact and feel.
@@fohb7291 "persona 3 reload is better than the original in every aspect" >Koromaru's human sounds >Less expressive portraits >MC being restricted to swords only I could go on. I mean, I loved the remake, but to say it's better in every aspect is just plain wrong.
im a new persona player playing the reload! and i imagine how crazy it must be for those who played persona 3 and really liked the game to play the reload now
Yeah reload definitely looks better, but I wish they animated reload the same way they did in fes. The spin of his evoker is iconic, and reeling his head waaay back when he does fusion raids was really awesome. Also wish they implemented multiple weapons for MC
This video made me realize that I hadn't really appreciated how much better the soundtrack is. P3 already had such a good OST to begin with that I hadn't really thought to go back and compare it to the new one, but hot damn, they really knocked the soundtrack's remake out of the park.
![BOWKYLION - วิงวอน (ex-change) [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cLdnZWDaO-w/mqdefault.jpg)
I like the reload jack brothers you can see makoto walking like he's exiting a stage
the fusion spells with any Jacks is funny imo, jack brothers, Yuki summons them and just walks away.. and on King and I, King frost knocks over Yuki right after summoning
Makoto Yuki: ladies and gentlemen, I present you, jack brother
@@Yasha_U Like legit, any time I used that Theurgy I just couldn't keep it together.
@@Elsuya_MiloSame! I always forget that have cool animations, so it gets me everytime😂
I came back to this video to say the same thing. The gameplay feels a lot faster paced or even 'organized' to say. Without context somebody who's never seen this franchise (Or at least the first clip) wouldn't even know he was pulling a trigger to do that. Beautiful transitions while keeping the class.
Love how he just walks away at 0:24
That's all for me, now good luck 😉✌️
anyone would, that shit deals almighty damage
Camina bien chistoso
“Alright, you two do your thing. I’m gonna go grab a soda.”
Well of course he does, this comedy act is so bad he'd be knocked down if he stuck around, just like the enemies.
Fun details: when aegis use orgia mode and do all out attack, orgia mode animation is still there
Does it change her all out attack finisher screen too
She also looks like a blue butterfly, foreshadowing at its finest
Fun details orgia means orgy in italian
@@randomyoutubecommenter2312 no it doesnt, its just changes run animation
@@Its8BitPixelwell if u manage to trigger all out attack with her, her pose at the end also have that butterfly effect
0:23 Why does he just walk off so casually LMAO
Exit stage left.
He says "let them cook!" 😤
He really said 🚶♂️
"wanna see a joke? GUN!
I'll see myself out now."
"Let them do their stand-up show, I'm outta here"
I miss when the protag spun his gun like a cowboy
He now does it when switching Personas in the spell menu
I'm pretty sure he still does it during the windup animation but the windup animation is now part of opening the persona skills menu, they sacrificed some style for snappier combat. I miss the spin too but I think overall it makes fights feel better and faster.
@@spacecatsolar The problem with the evoker draw animation is that the menu interface obstructs it. And don't get me started on that out of character bunnyhop that Mitsuru does.
@@mikevignola4213how do I make Mitsuru bunny hop???
@@spacecatsolar it aint the same
Sheesh, that recoil from Yuki’s Evoker shot was kinda sick looking back.
I actually prefer that detail tbh, like bro is summoning 2 personas at once so his head recoils stronger than usual
@@icecube9765 Huh, was that how it was? Could’ve sworn I’ve seen it myself in P3P and I never even used Fusion attacks.
Yeah, I was genuinely really disappointed when they toned it down so much for the new one, I feel like the Evoker almost should send you flying.
@@aguywithgames3135 fusion spells were consumable items instead of skills in Portable lol, pretty pitiful.
I think that the animation was changed in P3p, the FES animation for dual fusions was always him recoiling like that. @@aguywithgames3135
The OG Jack Brother animation made the enemy looks like dies from cringe lmao
I always saw the Jack Bros as sort of a Manzai duo so this fits it perfectly
@@its_heeho
They reminded me of Pumpkinmon and gotsumon from Digimon Adventure.......
@@its_heeho They're the Downtown of Personas
I can't get over the fact that in spanish, orgia mode had to be renamed to "unleashed mode" because "orgía" means "orgy" xD
i mean, it's where the word orgy comes from so the double meaning is probably intentional, Orgia were secret rites for the worship of Dionysus, and then it meant any celebration with excessive debauchery, that's why it means "group sex" now
Orgia (Greek) -> Orgia (Latin) -> Orgie (French) -> Orgy (English)
@@zaqareemalcolm GROUP SEX MODE
Ñ
in portuguese i think it became something like rampage mode
@@conic2721e tem tradução pra português?
Orgia mode was a fun part of my playthrough because in my country Orgia means Orgy 💀
My first reaction was "the *what* mode?"
Brasil?
@@gabrielmenezes8206 Portugal
Latinoamérica supongo...
Coño yo vine a decir eso mismo
Same here. I'm not sure I can play this game in front of my parents
I honestly do kinda miss the way Makoto would recoil so heavily after doing a fusion spell to show how stressful it can be to use 2 personas at once
You can use TWO PERSONAS?! I am still playing through P5R and never thought using 2 personas at the same time would be a thing. This makes me even more excited when i pick persona 3 reload later on
@@jishan6992 It's only during the fusion moves (named Theurgy in Reload), which basically serve the purpose of a typical "Ultimate" move (or for a more direct comparison, like a single person Showtime from P5R). You cannot literally equip two Personas at the same time.
@@gabunne i might as well have figured but still cool af, i saw the theurgy thing but never really understood what that was, the animations are so smooth and flowing in persona 3R
Pick up metaphor later on youll see more cool fusion attacks @@jishan6992
It's so cool how they streamlined most of the late game battle mechanics via Theurgy, along with giving everyone else cool new skills. Orgia mode is now an all-out finisher, rather than a situational/mostly useless command mode.
Metis' orgia mode is actually really good in the answer
It's better than a finisher, it deals big damage and then gives Aigis an attack steroid for 3 turns.
But now Reload is super easy, our team got plenty of new powers while enemies stayed the same, or got nerfed
@@ApexGale Oh yeah I know, but I prefer to use Orgia mode near the end of a battle. Aigis overheating is detrimental in any major boss fight, so I make sure she can finish the fight before it happens.
@@gigabilly1160 That's why you play on Merciless
Reload really needs more of those exaggerated recoil when using fusion spells
To be fair, they're still there just less clear. The two best examples are makoto's first theurgy and yukari's. Makoto looks like he accidentally used a real gun and is just dying in slow motion while yukari briefly looks the same.
Aigis's old victory animation is so cute, I miss it a little
the original Aigis was a truly a robot in shape of a girl.
the new one looks more like a girl cosplaying as aigis...
@@gendoruwo6322yall bitch about everything holy shit
@Next-GenNeptune As in, Aigis' movement in Reload isn't really "robotic"
@Next-GenNeptune It actually makes perfect sense. I think you need to work on your reading comprehension. In the first game she seemed like an actual robot, in new game she seems not as robotic, as if she is actually a human simply pretending. The fact you just agreed with kichiroumitsurugis comment means you are literally agreeing with the OP because that is what the OP is implying.
@gendoruwo6322 Would've been cool if her robotic features were more exaggerated
0:35 I'm sorry, activating what?
i love how I have no idea what the hell I just clicked on and 5 seconds later, some guy $uicides.
nah the animation when he blow his brains out his hilarious af in the original
I absolutely love how in original p3 special attacks like jack brothers have a special gun firing animation. It's one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
I wish they kept that...
Bro She Just Did The Core Breaker
Or Maximum Spider, depending on who you ask
Gamma 2’s true successor
Her 2nd one is even more badass. Straight KosMos type shit.
Yk what Jack Brothers actually sort of represents now that I think abt it, that one scene with kenji & makoto & their comedic moment. Especially since Kenji is magican, & so are the personas.
I would say it's more that both are based on manzai, a type of Japanese stand up comedy that has two people, a silly character and a straight man, and the two of them make puns
thats great
@@TheGodOfInsanty That makes sense. That's exactly how Kenji & Makoto's comedy show goes.
Japan loves their tsukkomi and boke interactions
nerd!@@TheGodOfInsanty
0:36 EXCUSE ME ACTIVATING WHAT?!
"Activating Orgia mode"
Ñ?
Activating tortilla mode ✨
Average ryo enjoyer @@Aloha237x
Orgia means orgy in spanish/portuguese 💀
"GOOD JOB EVERYONE!"
Makoto Arisato leaving the scene all by himself
Hey, the Jacks get praise too!
That name is the worst of both worlds lol
obama giving obama a medal
Who is Minato Arisato
@@Starnanashi The Manga name of the Persona 3 protagonist
The way Makoto leans back in the animation kills every time 😂😂😂
Yeah it never gets old for me 😭
*bang*
"bruuuuuh"
0:05 Ouuh I like that one a lot now.
Something about Makoto just walking off screen so that is bros get their moment is so wholesome
They went from what Pokémon animations currently look like to what they might look like at be least 10 years in the future
You mean to what non game freak Pokemon looked like 10 years ago (it looked better than current pokemon)
well if nintendo would stop the dumba$$ yearly thing for the pokemon games then maybe theyd look nicer and less buggy.
@@xt6997 it's not Nintendo's call. They need the yearly games because of all the non-game stuff that depend on them. The anime, cards, plushes, merch, films.
Nintendo owns about a third of the Pokemon brand at most. Not enough to make any decisions
@@velvetbutterflyit actually is nintendos call and Pokémon is a multi billion dollar brand. Nintendo and/or the devs of mainline Pokémon games want to release yearly because thats annual profits.
Pokemon company does NOT depend on the revenue of their mainline games.
@@cherubin7th Nice lying on the internet for likes and getting 12
give us back aigis little dance after winning 😭😭
OG Jack Brothers is still funnier, but Orgia Mode's glow-up is INSANE
I do like how makoto just walks away like "okay you bois got it"
...The King Frost knocking him down still destroys me tho 😂 THE DISRESPECT
what do you mean? it's literally the same animation just that the reload version is more polished and has camera angles.
@@garaktartv3647 I think the cut to the enemies being knocked down after the punchline is way funnier than Jack Frost slapping (hi-fiving?) Pyro Jack and then them taking damage
@@bureahuwaito I guess I can see that yea. but for me it's still kind of the same animation just more polished.
@@bureahuwaito I'm pretty sure they're doing a manzai which is a popular Japanese type of stand up comedy with a funny man and straight man (boke and tsukkomi) and the hand slap movement is part of the comedy routine done by the straight man
The gun knock is what makes the OG so good. Also yuki leaving the stage.
16 years later and their comedy routine still bombs (killing the audience)
0:05 Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
0:22 Persona 3: Persona 5
Naaaa 0:24 he understands 100% the stage is for the jack brothers, he lettin em cook
I love the pro tags summoning animation for the fusion spells in the og games. It’s so dramatic lol
The original orgia mode is just Aigis spamming her attacks but stronger.
In reload, she does use her attack but stronger too
@@minisculex3she can also use her persona with the same orgia mode boost.
Yeah, and now it's literally just the big damage button without any risks that used to come with the OG move. Great evolution! Let's just dumb the whole game down
@@ealain7600 Omg, get over it.
@@ealain7600i think it's fine. Played in Merciless, and it does play easier. Atleast I found it a bit harder than P5R's merciless.
*S P R E A D S H O T!*
0:38 that twerking is insane
"there are four enemies!"
*shoots himself*
0:49
“It’s our testicle first.”
LMAO
0:49 I'm so high I thought fuuka said "it's our testicle first"
Can't unhear this now lmao
SAME WTF
Person who played the original Persona 3: "Wow, they really took advantage of the advances of technology and the recent games' presentation style!"
Me, who's only played Personas 1 and 5: **sees **0:05**** "E-excuse me...??" 😦
It's also nice to hear the voice acting has been improved a ton too. It went from just talking in 2007 to having some emotion in 2024
This is before Aigis had emotions. It's weird in the remake since they keep saying she can't pass for a person.
@@AlfredoTaken That is generally due to the way she uses certain words, ending off phrases with "as they say" extremely often, even if those phrases are supposed to be commonly known
0:49 its our what??
Testicle
chance to go first! Two enemies... You can take them!
It's our TESTICLE burst😂
tortilla activated!!
0:23 "I will now walk away from the stage"
Reload Makoto in Jack Brothers really said: 🚶
bruh i can't wrap my head around orgia mode, it literally means orgy mode in my language 😂😂😂😂😂 they changed it to frenzy mode
Brasil?
@@jusuper5519 Sim
@@jusuper5519 In spanish too
Italy too
In polish as well lol
Really I think it's mostly the execution over the actual limitations of the technology of the time. If persona 3 had as big of a budget and as much time put into it as persona 5, even if it came out on the ps2, could've looked closer to this than you may think.
Did that guy just shoot himself in the head as an attack animation?? 💀💀💀 Maybe I need to play persona.
Do you want the lore or do you want to find out on your own?
You must be new here
@Next-GenNeptune been searching all along...
@@seoeomiicome facing twilinght on and on...
@@seoeomii Came facing twilight on and on
Without a clue…
The og persona 3 one is so funny I can’t with the sounds
i still can’t believe they kept the jack brothers fusion spell
Never played any of these games, but in the first 10 seconds you choose an attack, the guy yells, shoots himself, and then two little guys tell a joke or something
Do you want an explanation or do you want to leave it a mystery?
@@velvetbutterfly I won’t play the game, but I think an explanation would be nice. Go ahead :)
@@noahhughes121 I'll divide the explanation into 2 comments, first is the first half of the video; the one you questioned, but I felt like explaining the second clip should anyone else wish to read.
Personas are manifestations of the human psyche. How one summons one can vary. One way is to be pushed to extremes and it comes out of desperation. By putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger, even a fake one, it can trick your body and put you into that desperate state; forcing the Persona out.
The IRL original concept was that the gun was real and that the Persona would heal the damage before the user would die. The finalized concept and in-game explanation is that the gun, called an Evoker, houses a Plume of Dusk that resonates with a Persona and helps call it out. And while the psychology factor does help as said above, the reason a gun was chosen was basically because it was cool and convinced someone to join the exploration team long ago, other forms do exist however.
The protagonist, pictured in the first half, has some special abilities. 1: he can use numerous Personas at will. And 2: he is capable of summoning 2 at once. The skill chosen, Jack Bros, features Jack Frost and Pyro Jack (Jack o' Lantern). The animation references a traditional type of Japanese comedy I forget the name up. Basically one acts silly or naïve and the other is a straight man that reacts or asks questions. The enemies suddenly collapse to the floor in reaction to the (presumably bad) jokes. Which is a trope you probably seen happen if you ever watched even clips of any slice of life, romance, or comedy anime. Or even more general series such as Pokemon have used it from time to time.
The remake's attack is changed mechanically, but ultimately the same thing happens.
In the second clip, Aigis activates Orgia Mode.
If the name didn't clue you in, there is a Greek theme in the game. Aigis being the name of Zeus' shield IIRC, and Orgia being Greek for "frenzied". Yes the joke is obvious. That's because that adult term comes from the fact people would do it frenziedly.
As she's a robot, using the skill removes her limiters. In canon this makes all her attributes go into overdrive, but can only last so long before she starts breaking down.
In the original, she would simply get a special buff for a few turns, with a steamy aura indicating she is pushing her limits.
In the remake she starts off with a strong AoE attack with a flashy animation and then has the aforementioned buff as a bonus.
@@velvetbutterflyPerfect and flawless explanation!
They are both pretty cool. The new animations go harder but the old one had the gun spin. Put em together and it would be perfection.
I'm probably in the minority but for the MC animations, i kinda prefer the original. It makes way more sense that using two personas at once would cause a massive toll on the person, hence why he becomes a bit limp after shooting. Especially since this also uses a lot of mp. Its a risky move on whether to use the fusion spell but in reload its just "Hey look at this cool thing" I know its within the theuagy mechanic but for that at least it lost the magic.
i haven't played neither of these games, but personally I like the composition and execution of the original better
I LOVE how much fun they put into Jack Brothers animation..
*But what we really needed was how hardcore the summon was during* 0:04
having lived a long time in Japan I can confirm that bad manzai acts make me want to die
10/10 realism from the jack bros
I kinda like bad manzai acts... Basically because some of them are so bad that it loops around to being funny.
Bro what was it Jacks were yapping about that killed those shadows 💀
The WHAT mode?!
It doesn’t mean what you think it means if you’re brazilian.
@@justaguy3983Brazilian 😒😒
@@justaguy3983 Bro, it means that in, like, half the languages of the world
@@agnieszkasalach4395 Only 4(Spanish, Portugese, Italian, Romanian), nowhere near "half".
hungarian too@@Caydiem
0:49 "It's our testicle first!"
the old (2007) evoker animation for spell fusions goes hard though, aswell as the voiceline with it
The older animations took advantage of the limitations to really show the personality. While the new animations are definitely more detailed, it feels like it's missing a bit of that original kick. They added a bit more in the way the character walks out of frame at the comedy bit, but it's not quite enough. Just kinda feels like an imitation of p5 rather than a translation of p3.
nahh the difference is, the gunshot use to be seen normal. but the new one is hidden, cause america cant see gun put in head so its sillhoutte only
My only gripes was actually thanatos scream in the awakening is nerfed
the animation on both of aigis’s theurgys are insane
Watching this with no context (never played a Persona game) was pretty funny. May I ask why the dude shot himself in the head at 0:03 and money flew out, lol?
Thats how you summon your persona in Persona 3
Persona 4 used tarot cards
Persona 5 used masks
It's not money. It's... not sure if it has a name. It's like the soul being given form. Those shards form the Persona being summoned.
The P3 cast shoot themselves to summon their Personas.
They need to put their bodies and minds under extreme stress in order to force their Personas out. They don't have a contract like in 5, they didn't embrace theirselves like 4, and they don't have Philemon's blessing like 1 and 2, so they have to work a lot harder to bring it out. Although the gun isn't really a gun. It houses a Plume of Dusk, a fragment of the collective unconscious, which resonates with the Persona inside someone and more easily calls it out.
In Persona 3, the characters with powers need to evoke a sense of danger within themselves in order to access them.
@@myyoutubeaccount4167 Neat. Thanks for letting me know.
I do miss the feedback and leaning back when shooting the Evoker during the fusion
@@Doomfoolable this person wasn't complaining lmfao
It took them 16 years but at least the jack bro's are now officially funny
the old evoker animation is way better so I was confused what argument this video was trying to make at first
Orgia is so flashy now. It makes my monitor leak colors lol Love it anyway!
The plasma wings on aegis in orgia mode make the whole mechanic so much cooler that I actually use it in reload where I almost never touched it in FES. Feels more on par with a proper mecha power up or tokusatsu/power rangers battlizer mode rather than just a berserk aura.
All I heard was "TORTILLA ACTIVATED!"
Having only played PS5- I was not prepared and audibly gasped at the first animation. THATS WILD
If anyone with a language that has their roots on Latin is wondering.
Aegis mode just basically means “frenzy” in greek.
So you can consider it a “berserk mode/transformation”, and not that other thing you have in mind.
I'd kill to get my hands in this remaster, it looks so sick...it's cool that they kept the essence of the older animations :)
I can't help but giggle at "Orgia mode" being said out loud, literally "Orgy mode" in my language, what are you trying to say, Aigis?
as someone who has never played a persona game my jaw dropped when bro shot himself😭😭😭😭
I don't think it's so much a thing of advancement in animation quality, I mean a little bit yes, but it's more a thing of budget. When Persona 3 was made Atlus didn't have the budget that they do now they've done P5 which was a giant success in multiple platforms.
Now this is a peak evolution, as they say
I'm not sure what the opinion I'm supposed to have is, but the original game is cleaner and easier to look at. I can't stomach all the swirly bs and quick animations of the new one.
I still think the PS2 version looks great to this day. P3 FES still is my favorite game of all time and Persona 3 Reload is almost just as good as FES to me. It's just not better because I have a huge nostalgia for the original, but I appreciate everything they made better on Reload and I think P3 Reload it's objectively the best Persona 3 game so far.
I want to give this remake a chance, but the new voice cast just completely kills it for me. :/ It's a shame too because the new models and animations look fantastic.
Though, seeing how Orgia Mode was changed... That's another mark against the game, imo. I liked having it as a last ditch option that carried risk. Here, it just looks like a free win button.
It's sad that new fans of the series probably won't ever go back and experience the gem that was the original (or FES. Either way, really.)
Alejandro Saab made a really good point that I tend to agree with, the only people that complain about the voice changes are the ones that never gave the game a chance, obviously there will be some cases where this isn't true but from my personal experience I was really not used to aigis and akihikos voice changes, but by the time I finished they were both just as good as the originals, Fuuka sounds a lot better then the others just sound the same to me so I didn't really have an issue with those, also most games tend to be easier than their og counterparts unfortunately that's just something I've gotten used to
@@StevenMcSteve I thought some of the new voices were alright when I listened to a comparison. Fuuka's is definitely an improvement. But some of them, Akihiko's especially, just sound terrible in my honest opinion.
I want to give the remake a chance, as I said, but even beyond the voice changes, there have been things I've heard and seen that just dissuade me from paying for it because those things go against the claim the devs made about wanting to stay faithful to the original game.
Free win button? I've played P3R all the way through 4 times now, orgia mode is no way a win button.
@@fohb7291 In fact, Orgia Mode is pretty bad, and has always been trash on Aigis even in FES
Play with Japanese audio.
wow just wow
0:36 This power name in Brazilian Portuguese sounds so naughty lmao
The orgia mode was always really funny to me because im venezuelan and in Venezuela they talk spanish and in Spanish orgia means orgy
This has to be the sexiest UI EVER in a game
Thank god for the notes, never would ve guessed
wow, they couldn't even get their left and right correct with the Jack Brothers, talk about lazy!
(kidding, looks great)
New version fits the theurgy about 2x better. That’s why.
LMAO so funny to see Makoto just walk away from the show HAHAHA
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Hey a “these games are years apart” vid that’s complimentary to the new game. Finally.
I just looked at the vid with my eyes open.@annoyingsmuganimeavatar7229
@@JROTGS Reload is so flashy its lost its soul. OG animations are efficiently animated and made with passion on a console that was duct taped together to work. P3 was a miracle game made on a shoestring budget. P3R is just a souless cash grab censored to hell and content cut from the OG aslo is costs double the original did. 70$ is ridiculous for a game that as a "to be continued" at the end.
@@snintendog again, you're completely wrong.
Like I said before the animations are in no way soulless, they just look cleaner. You've been brainwashed by the media into thinking anything that looks good is automatically soulless because it's doesn't look like it came out of an apple 2 computer.
P3R isn't censored either. The only thing they really censored heavily was that beach scene, and that scene completely deserved to be removed as it was transphobic.
It's not a cash grab either, there's obvious passion put into P3R.
@@snintendog"Soul", the classic meaningless buzzword of contraian NPCs.
@@mechadeka typical throw away account.
Not surpised that heavy censor ship would come out of the modern animation
The power of multiple sex Partners
Man, it’s like a decade and a half is a long time for advancements or something.
Persona 5 walked so Persona 3 could run
wait....
Hot.
And by that i am talking about jack frost.
Obviously.
Who the heck keeps liking this comment and then un-liking it
It feels like my youtube has schizophrenia lfmao
Keep it up 👍
Was it just me who read the title and assumed the newer one was going to be worse
Especially after the ‘kill the justice league’ video
it is worse. P3R is just SOULESS but Flashy.
@@snintendogyou're wrong in every way.
First off the original orgia mode doesn't even have an animation, it's literally just Aigis with an aura and slightly buffed attacks. And the new jack Brothers animation is literally just the old one with better graphics.
You're just hating to hate, persona 3 reload is better than the original in every aspect
@@snintendoghurr durr new things bad, old things good because nostalgia 🤓
@@mental9080As someone who hasn't played either game, the old one for the guy dual summonig jack frost and jackolantern is better. Not for the graphics, but for the impact and feel.
@@fohb7291 "persona 3 reload is better than the original in every aspect"
>Koromaru's human sounds
>Less expressive portraits
>MC being restricted to swords only
I could go on. I mean, I loved the remake, but to say it's better in every aspect is just plain wrong.
16 years apart. And Aigis still looks more like a refrigerator than human. Some things never change.
i actually think the original was funnier, theres was no fanfare, no setup, they just talk and enemies noped out of there fast
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
@@DBTHEPLUG uh, I'm probably not gonna do that, I don't carry this opinion with me every where I go, probably gonna forget this tbh lol
im a new persona player playing the reload! and i imagine how crazy it must be for those who played persona 3 and really liked the game to play the reload now
Yeah reload definitely looks better, but I wish they animated reload the same way they did in fes.
The spin of his evoker is iconic, and reeling his head waaay back when he does fusion raids was really awesome.
Also wish they implemented multiple weapons for MC
He does the spin when you switch personas in battle
its more of like a short twirl than THE spin.
better than no spin but still wish it was more prevalent
@@ContraEye I don't think they really had an option since the evoker animation is mostly hidden by the menu since they made the skill screen instant
This video made me realize that I hadn't really appreciated how much better the soundtrack is.
P3 already had such a good OST to begin with that I hadn't really thought to go back and compare it to the new one, but hot damn, they really knocked the soundtrack's remake out of the park.
Everyone in Latin America (including Portuguese-speaking countries): the **what** mode? 💀