Hey, I haven't finished watching the video but if you want to see/publish an interview I did with one of the private discord owners lmk. They have many pro players as friends on their script accounts and claim the pros know they script.
@Mike Yes because they are 100% mining bitcoin on our computers without our consent 100% albert einstein! You under estimate the ad revenue a site like that generates not to mention it seems they have a paided subscription service with active paying subscribers. Unbias opinion as i dont use the product however not shitting on the creator for taking a completely harmless check. An frankly fellas the only true pieces of shits is the people judging a content creator for his personal life choices so how about that :)
"But they all Unanimously agree that the riot client, is one of the biggest pieces of shit they've worked on, throughout their entire lives." Holy shit this gave me a good laugh
I think he said unanimously but yes xD I can't rly grasp how they "build on top" rather than from scratch... Not like they lack the resources to do so right?
Absolutel bullshit. He even says that most of the people that do this are just young guys in highschool/college, they haven't seen shit in their life. What could they compare league's client to ? Csgo ? Minecraft ? And that's considering, that they tried finding hacks for other games which I doubt, cause league cannot be so much more profitable in this than vsgo or valorant and Fortnite lately
Excellent video Dong Huap. However, one criticism I would like to say is the sound volume was imbalanced. Your voice was a bit soft while the guests' were quite loud. I had to adjust the volume up and down many times throughout the video. Even the music was a bit louder than your voice. Still, great video and thank you so much for making it.
@@mranderson2048 wow I just hought he had a bajillion mastery points on Xerath and just knew. You just hear his voice. He knows he is vs'ing scripters. Looking for that vid now... thanks for letting us know.
Pixel reading is the future you can always have an external camera and keyboard + mouse inputs. Basically self driving car technology applied to league of legends.
Yeah, it's already a big concern on FPS games. They use a capture card and a second pc to process it, and devices that give controller/keyboard/mpuse input to the main PC.
@@zalibassga they also use ai to make it work less like a program and more like a human, with variable reaction times and not-so-snappy aim adjustments
@@zalibassga 6 months? a year? I've been pixel coding for 14years and I am not one of the originators :P There is virtually nothing devs can do against it. I just use it to farm currency on MMOs though, I respect the ranked aspect of League/FPS too much.
I will never understand why people have to join a clean pvp game in order to cheat. There is a lot of good games out there that are unplayable just cause they are full of cheaters, and scripters are no different. Cheaters are the scum of the pvp universe.
Either because of their ego even if it's stupid to think that getting good because of a script if worth something. Or just because some human takes satisfaction by seeing others distress or ruining their day. But yeah hard to understand theses """"humans""""
21:26 Seeing these harmless modifications, I'm kinda sad that they seemingly only work on the BIG problems the client has or rather sue the people providing the big problems, like u mentioned later. So much lost potential (even money wise), like the customisable screens shown here. Or bugfixes, like when changing your secondary runes. I mean the one where you don't change the selected one, no. It is the "older" one if you stay in the same tree. Or chality of life stuff, like if I wanna spend my event tokens for blue essence just let me type in how much I want.
The last one in particular baffles me. Why must we sit through those animations countless times when they could just simply add a fucking textbox? How spaghetti must the client be for that to be too much to ask for?
@@Ayzev tbh, giving people a text box is always scary in any game, because more likely than not, you can somehow abuse it by inputting specific characters (especially weird ones)
@@FafliXx you can legit use a label and increment button , if your so worried, with buttons for +1, +10, +max ( the first two of which they already do for orbs and chests)-> though as stated you can also validate the textbox, either way it's baffling and dumb, Not to mention they could redesign the client with less overall cost from 2nd year onwards, rebuilding parts constantly because a 1 month fix is quicker and cheaper in the short term, but ita neither cost effective nor an actual solution, also it's not like they have to scrap all their current code , the client is mostly just a front end, I ported my 10 year old program recently that interacts with many micro services and is a management syle system ( though granted not as large as riots code base) from VB to C# to React as a single coder in just a year, discord initial Features were built just in 6 months ( I've been using it since beta) and the core of the application was super functional even then, Riot needs to get their heads out their ass and just recode the core of the client and re use code that's good were possible, and the assets are all reusable without additonal coding (art, champion skins, client look and feel, data values) , the only possible reason I can see that this didn't happen is politics
I honestly wish range/hitbox indicators were included in the game because man sometimes you get hit by something that's complete bullshit because of weird hitboxes that don't match visuals
It's ridiculous they don't let us have indicators when some champs have them.. Like lb E, aphelios sniper, kled Q, varus ult, morg ult.. Rapidfire cannon gives an indicator as wlel
@@wispppp lb kled and morg have tethers, afaik all tethers show both the caster and the target the range they have to stay in for the tether not to break but with the autoattacks yeah it's kind of sad how some champions get the privilege of having their range constantly on screen while the others have to auto with A if they want to know same with yasuo and yone Q vs all the skills from all other champions now the likes of varus and xerath have charged abilities, which show the same indicators as normal casting (ie not quick casting) while they charge
@mamaprudnavchaq 2 I'm saying that I think hitbox/range indicators shouldn't be something you have to cheat into the game, specially because riot does a shitty job at hitboxes matching visuals for lots of skills
@@BlackedHawked he’s talking about the guy who hypothetically buys a script boosted high elo account but is silver so he loses until he drops back down
I don’t completely agree with this sympathetic light being shed on the scripters at the end of the video . Sure maybe not all of them have malicious goals, but they’re still selling and using exploits that ruin the game for people that are playing fair. League solo/ duo is already a clusterfuck without cheaters making it worse. Plus they’re explicitly mentioning that they’re making money off essentially ruining other players’ games. Either way interesting to get the inside perspective.
I agree with you, personally I have no empathy for people who exploit games and their code like this. They could get very similar experince (if not the exact same) from a normal job if only they wanted to. One thing I loved to learn was that Riot actually do so much to improve the game, and I sure wouldn't mind if they completely ruined the buisness for these people someday. If people use their knowledge and skills to ruin other peoples life in one way or another, I lose all respect for them instantly.
@@Fucklifedeadshit it was like that back when i played around with scripts around 6-7 years ago, got a refferal from a friend and had some fun with it, it didn't cost any money but you could donate if you felt like it. Later it was changed to free for normal games and like 1$ subscription for ranked games and that was for the software, the actual scripts were made by other users with some fun stuff like universal gank alerter (only worked if you had vision of the enemy), garen spin2win script (made you buy only potions + rejuv, you can only use garens spin and you get "dizzy" from it), toaster loading (you can pause loading screen if you need to take a piss or something, back then the game waited for everyone to load). Nowadays i bet it's different.
Yep. While i was sympathizing with elo boosters getting money and being super stressed out while playing in high elo, not sleeping etc, or e-girls getting harassed by creeps, you cannot make me do that for scripters. They just do it for the money, have no trouble doing it, and i would not feel bad in the slightest if they all got fucked by riot.
there are specific champions scripting is 'less' beneficial, Xerath is the most common one ironically he is one of the easiest to beat, because the scripter gains perfect aim, but this is not considering greater concepts all the time like zoning. I feel like the lore itself xerath is a good champion to 'cheat' with was optimally internally selected as a literal trap for cheaters to both suck at the game, while also getting caught XD. so while basic scripts will make Xerath himself super obvious to be cheating, there needs to be some kind of extra complicated script to instead block the enemy units pathing, because that is actually significantly more useful for killing the enemy. Like Xerath W, if the aim of it is completely encircling a target, then it's actually the shortest distance to escape it in any direction, giving the human responding to the skill shot, more time and options to react, than if you just block their path they will most optimally want to select with zoning. So the best actual uses of skillshots that are AoE like Xerath W are not always just a perfectly centered shot(they actually rarely are!), making defeating Xerath scripters actually more easy, than skilled Xerath players. Scripts also respond awkwardly to burst damage, the same way bots do not respect it the way humans do, and so if the scripter equally does not understand to respect burst damage, it can get the better of them quickly. Anyway, scripting on karthus with the 'lesser' script, would probably be really horrible; they also probably get certain R cast that only proves they have bad map awareness, because it would only be pog if you didn't already know to push R XD. Karthus is unironically the original Yuumi select; highest impact for the least skill, and without any disrespect to these cheaters, they sure pick terrible champions to cheat on XD, it's almost like they don't know how to play the game.
@@SomeKata Search some content before talking on the subject. Faker literally mechanically outplayed a scripting program and beat him in his own game as Viktor vs Karthus while being spam ganked. Yes that was Prime Faker, but "impossible" is rather amusing to hear from NA shitheads who cannot hold the mouse in 2021.
@@bonesh0ckerz That line of the video is talking about reaction time when it comes to dodging skillshots. The script would input a command to move instantly. As in less than any human could react to anything. Faker is a god but any human player could not input to dodge faster than a script even if they are reacting to the animation. Also in the game that was a diamond player with diamond trading patterns and decision making that got to faker’s elo because of the scripts. Faker beat him because the scripts don’t change the diamond decisions the player made.
I'm not trying to be mean or a scumbag to him, I just wasn't sure he was aware of this since the past couple vids have been like this. And i'm sure he would fix it if he knew about it since it is pretty noticeable.
Valve is worst company in the world, they are stupid and retarded. Their kidnapping of DotA is worst thing that happened to the gaming in recent gaming history.
@@zemljajeravna5336 What do you mean by kidnapping? Blizzard wasn't interested in making of Dota 2 so hey, free market for icefrog i guess. Im getting an inkling that you aren't one of the smart ones out there... Or you are 14.
I've been playing League of Legends since like 2010 or whatever right when it came out. I have literally never had recurring issues with the client. I'm sure it's crashed a few or a handful of times throughout 12 years but no more than anything else.
In the past I also had no problems with the client but the client now is literally broken. I got dodged because the queue won't load and I was disqualified from my promos. I was unable to ban several times. It showed no accept match on the client and it said that I didn't accept the match. I get 2 to 3 instances of these everyday when I try to play. It's literally dogshit and its really annoying because they are too focused on skins to fix the fucking client. (May the delt god derek from more plates more dates dot com bless you)
Yeah most of these problems are caused by overclicking buttons so client becomes confused or streamers playing 16 hours a day so client becomes unstable. Normal behaviour almost never gets these bugs, the pre game client is especially solid now.
@@cattysplat the client is shit i tell you that as a programmer. I dont know what they use to make this window but there is definitely something wrong with it. Its not even overclicking. You click once on one window and then a second time on another and bam! Bug found! It is so badly written
Casuals. Smurf accounts for pros and streamers. Dads. Tryhard kids. Basically everyone who wants to flex rank using cash despite having 0 earned skills.
Funny enough, the ones developing scripts and stuff are the least scummy ones, the ones abusing the things they develop to ruin the game for others are the actual scum because they're the losers that spent money to try and feel better about themselves. Not that I support the developers themselves, but at the end of the day, they are pretty much exposing the weaknesses in the games and are actually helping in the way certain animals or plants help their respective ecosystem, and as long as actual gamebreaking hacks aren't let to destroy the integrity of the game often, as Dong said, it's helpful to them!
Really great edit and information is so clear to understand. It always for me interesting for such things, as backdoors and scripting things. Thanks for the video!
Very interesting video, the amount of research and work behind it must have been enormous ! However, as a small improvement, I suggest better sound equalizing as there are a lot of sound difference between each speaker
So a big part of this involves the shit client, why am I not surprised. Other companies are at least smart enough to switch clients as time passes, but dear old riot is hell bent on keeping this clunker junker going.
Scripting was a massive problem at some point, it was at the times of season 5 or 6 if i recall correctly and more than 50k accounts were banned in a big banwave
I quit playing LoL when 1 of the guy I knew who were on Bronze for months and then for some reason he got himself to Diamond the next time I saw him. Then I watch he play like face to face at cyber cafe and he obviously using script. That's the point I stop seeing him and stop playing the game at all.
@@XTen1000DaysX True. Although I quit playing LoL at season 6, I really missed all the time I hd from S1 - 6. Tryndamere & Phanteon are the characters that made me play the game at the first place.
@@plainidiot7596 It's for the same reason that you can open a .con file in a modern day windows computer. .con was the first ever file extension and windows has been built on top of DOS. Same thing with league. The actual client is 90% the same with the only real difference being how it looks.
@@plainidiot7596 it's technically possible to find the software needed to run Dominion on a server and then join the server but the work required to both get under Riot's radar AND maintain a server AND make all the champions function would be hard... but if you are up for the challenge you could probably do it
I remember two years ago when a hacker game an interview don't remember to who. He said he had a script developed that can go from bronze to Master before getting banned.
You know it's interesting that you release this video now because just recently I and many other people started receiving multiple random friend requests from very sus pre-level 30 accounts probably trying to fish us or something.
Speaking of valorant there was this cheat called "covert cheats" that was completely undetected that was fully public and actually pretty cheap. They did exit scam after their reseller got sued though
To be fair, i have never encountered a cheater in league of legends ever, and thats kind of impressive considering its one off the most popular multiplayer games of all time.
I legit don't understand why anyone would ever use cheats in a pvp game (not including if it is purely for the purpose of boosting for money). Like how is it fun/enjoyable/anything to cheat. Anything you gain while doing so is fake. It's beyond pathetic.
Hackers are hackers. Ill intent or not, cheating in games is the second worst offence you can commit. Ill give props to Riot for implementing a anticheat software.
8:00 The concept of gateway drugs, at least in the way you describe it, has been readily disproven. People don't become heroin addicts by smoking weed, but rather other opioids. The overwhelming majority of heroin addicts in the US started with prescription drugs. The entire opioid crisis was engineered by companies like McKinsey, so it's weird that you would phrase your analogy as you did. I get the point you're trying to make, but your method of choice is actively misrepresenting a crisis that has been, and still is, killing millions of people all over the world.
Today I figured out how mediocre i am, was playing ranked game, I honestly had never been so ruled an entire game, the moment I realized ive been playing league for around 9 years and my peak was diamond 4. 2 years ago. Now im honestly frustrated. Not like usual, but I really think that I cannot reach a high rank, the issue is... I cant accept it. I only think of practice, but still cannot see a future where I can play again in high ranks. This is just me allowing myself to sorta turn it into something public, so i can accept it easily. Im dumb, thats it, good night
Don't worry my guy, unless you're getting paid to play league, it's fine if you don't reach a high rank. I get the struggle of climbing and getting better because I've done it before.
DongHua, wonderful explanation. Gave the like and all. But let me ask you something: Has any of the big cheaters told you about the russian server, or they are keeping quiet about how many matches of that server go ham on cheats up to the limit? I just hope that Riot finally grabs their stuff together, and puts all the eloboost and the cheat websites down. Because that's what they should do, and reform entirely the client.
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Hey, I haven't finished watching the video but if you want to see/publish an interview I did with one of the private discord owners lmk. They have many pro players as friends on their script accounts and claim the pros know they script.
@Mike true pieces of shits everywhere
@Mike because they only see money and don’t give a *
@Mike Yes because they are 100% mining bitcoin on our computers without our consent 100% albert einstein! You under estimate the ad revenue a site like that generates not to mention it seems they have a paided subscription service with active paying subscribers. Unbias opinion as i dont use the product however not shitting on the creator for taking a completely harmless check. An frankly fellas the only true pieces of shits is the people judging a content creator for his personal life choices so how about that :)
Can u stop advertising cryptominers ?
"But they all Unanimously agree that the riot client, is one of the biggest pieces of shit they've worked on, throughout their entire lives."
Holy shit this gave me a good laugh
I think he said unanimously but yes xD I can't rly grasp how they "build on top" rather than from scratch... Not like they lack the resources to do so right?
Unanimously*
@@amryu-was-taken true
Absolutel bullshit. He even says that most of the people that do this are just young guys in highschool/college, they haven't seen shit in their life. What could they compare league's client to ? Csgo ? Minecraft ? And that's considering, that they tried finding hacks for other games which I doubt, cause league cannot be so much more profitable in this than vsgo or valorant and Fortnite lately
its not funny lmao
Excellent video Dong Huap. However, one criticism I would like to say is the sound volume was imbalanced. Your voice was a bit soft while the guests' were quite loud. I had to adjust the volume up and down many times throughout the video. Even the music was a bit louder than your voice. Still, great video and thank you so much for making it.
Just a little bit of compression and it would be settled.
It’s always been an issue, sometimes I gotta turn down in advance cause he’s always shouting loud on my headphones lol
Dong be earaping us : )
And the background music sometimes doesn't match the video lol @27:40 for example
I know this isn’t DongHuaps fault but some of the guests also sounded like they were deep throating their mics
Zwag Gameplay while talking about Xerath scripters lol
Its Zwag.
Guarantee you he is pointing out somebody else scripting.
@@AmbianEagleheart He also did 1v1 against real scripters for a video or two (and won).
@@mranderson2048 wow I just hought he had a bajillion mastery points on Xerath and just knew.
You just hear his voice. He knows he is vs'ing scripters.
Looking for that vid now... thanks for letting us know.
Was about to comment this, I think he has an account named “ScriptingXerath”, beacuse someone said he is scripting
I'm on the fucking screen...
Pixel reading is the future you can always have an external camera and keyboard + mouse inputs. Basically self driving car technology applied to league of legends.
Guess you just gave me a reason to buy another raspberry pi and improve my coding ;D
Yeah, it's already a big concern on FPS games. They use a capture card and a second pc to process it, and devices that give controller/keyboard/mpuse input to the main PC.
@@pizzalamander wait this isn't new, pretty sure it's a thing for at least 6months if not over a year.
Curious what developers want to do against it
@@zalibassga they also use ai to make it work less like a program and more like a human, with variable reaction times and not-so-snappy aim adjustments
@@zalibassga 6 months? a year? I've been pixel coding for 14years and I am not one of the originators :P There is virtually nothing devs can do against it. I just use it to farm currency on MMOs though, I respect the ranked aspect of League/FPS too much.
O mighty algorithm. O bots of yore. Hear my voice and heed my call!
Fr tho whoever pays thousands of dollars and goes through all the effort to get a script to boost their main accounts are hilarious.
ppl will do everything for clout
And they hit peak clowning when they get banned and rage at the script makers
@@Ayzev and then if someone asks them why they got banned they go to the age old excuse of "it was for selling accounts"
They do it to turn a profit
It's way easier to just pay someone to boost your acc at that point xD
Man, this documentary is perfect, it's not boring and is actually filled with information that is needed. Imma watch more of your videos.
They're all good at coding and hacking the game but I must say, their mic was made from stone age with that pick ups.
That's an issue with Dong's side I believe, his mic is way lower on volume compared to theirs
@@LunarEdge7 he could also just lower the voices in the editing
I will never understand why people have to join a clean pvp game in order to cheat. There is a lot of good games out there that are unplayable just cause they are full of cheaters, and scripters are no different. Cheaters are the scum of the pvp universe.
Either because of their ego even if it's stupid to think that getting good because of a script if worth something.
Or just because some human takes satisfaction by seeing others distress or ruining their day.
But yeah hard to understand theses """"humans""""
21:26 Seeing these harmless modifications, I'm kinda sad that they seemingly only work on the BIG problems the client has or rather sue the people providing the big problems, like u mentioned later.
So much lost potential (even money wise), like the customisable screens shown here.
Or bugfixes, like when changing your secondary runes. I mean the one where you don't change the selected one, no. It is the "older" one if you stay in the same tree.
Or chality of life stuff, like if I wanna spend my event tokens for blue essence just let me type in how much I want.
The last one in particular baffles me. Why must we sit through those animations countless times when they could just simply add a fucking textbox? How spaghetti must the client be for that to be too much to ask for?
@@Ayzev tbh, giving people a text box is always scary in any game, because more likely than not, you can somehow abuse it by inputting specific characters (especially weird ones)
@@FafliXx you can check though. Yeah if u just make plain requests you are a bit of a dumb coder but honestly, riot shouldnt be that incompetwnt
Hard for riot to justify charging you for changing your background so they don't add it as an option. Garbo company
@@FafliXx you can legit use a label and increment button , if your so worried, with buttons for +1, +10, +max ( the first two of which they already do for orbs and chests)-> though as stated you can also validate the textbox, either way it's baffling and dumb,
Not to mention they could redesign the client with less overall cost from 2nd year onwards, rebuilding parts constantly because a 1 month fix is quicker and cheaper in the short term, but ita neither cost effective nor an actual solution, also it's not like they have to scrap all their current code , the client is mostly just a front end, I ported my 10 year old program recently that interacts with many micro services and is a management syle system ( though granted not as large as riots code base) from VB to C# to React as a single coder in just a year, discord initial Features were built just in 6 months ( I've been using it since beta) and the core of the application was super functional even then, Riot needs to get their heads out their ass and just recode the core of the client and re use code that's good were possible, and the assets are all reusable without additonal coding (art, champion skins, client look and feel, data values) , the only possible reason I can see that this didn't happen is politics
I honestly wish range/hitbox indicators were included in the game because man sometimes you get hit by something that's complete bullshit because of weird hitboxes that don't match visuals
like darius E pulls you not even touching you xD
It's ridiculous they don't let us have indicators when some champs have them.. Like lb E, aphelios sniper, kled Q, varus ult, morg ult.. Rapidfire cannon gives an indicator as wlel
@@wispppp lb kled and morg have tethers, afaik all tethers show both the caster and the target the range they have to stay in for the tether not to break
but with the autoattacks yeah it's kind of sad how some champions get the privilege of having their range constantly on screen while the others have to auto with A if they want to know same with yasuo and yone Q vs all the skills from all other champions
now the likes of varus and xerath have charged abilities, which show the same indicators as normal casting (ie not quick casting) while they charge
@mamaprudnavchaq 2 I'm saying that I think hitbox/range indicators shouldn't be something you have to cheat into the game, specially because riot does a shitty job at hitboxes matching visuals for lots of skills
I've heard ppl use keyboard button weights to hold X or A for permanent auto indicator lol
You gotta give props on how much effort Rito put into banning the cheaters.
Least likes I've ever seem one of you with
here he is again
@@Koi_Swirl ohhh is it multiple people
@@mysticflow467 there's 2, the guy with a mustache (the OG) and the guy without a mustache.
@@Koi_Swirl i never seen em. you bust have predictable/similar taste in videos.
Muting T1 during his rage explosion is a blessing!
other guys talk - sound 15%
DongHuaP talks - sound 80%
I like how the ending is like
"It's not like they want to say 'f*ck riot games'"
" it's more like 'what would happen if I f*ck with riot games'"
-10mil xD
To be honest, seeing TF Blade raging like that is worth to hack Riot Games.
That face, that emotion will go into history, lmao.
No, riot is fine with cracking and hacking it helps them out :)
@@xyria3230 it obviously doesn't and they obviously aren't ok with it
@@virno69420 if they were not ok with it then they would not become buddy buddy with them
Imagine paying to cheat in a videogame, and even worse pay for an account in a certain elo just to perma lose every game u play... Yikes
Literally lol
I don't think they lose that much
@@BlackedHawked he’s talking about the guy who hypothetically buys a script boosted high elo account but is silver so he loses until he drops back down
Oh yeah you're right misread, was thinking he referred to the scripter
@@TWHowl Even better, gets the account perma banned after a few weeks/months.
I don’t completely agree with this sympathetic light being shed on the scripters at the end of the video . Sure maybe not all of them have malicious goals, but they’re still selling and using exploits that ruin the game for people that are playing fair. League solo/ duo is already a clusterfuck without cheaters making it worse. Plus they’re explicitly mentioning that they’re making money off essentially ruining other players’ games. Either way interesting to get the inside perspective.
I agree with you, personally I have no empathy for people who exploit games and their code like this. They could get very similar experince (if not the exact same) from a normal job if only they wanted to. One thing I loved to learn was that Riot actually do so much to improve the game, and I sure wouldn't mind if they completely ruined the buisness for these people someday.
If people use their knowledge and skills to ruin other peoples life in one way or another, I lose all respect for them instantly.
Exactly. You don’t create cheat software and then sell it with 10 layers of security and identity verification just to “see what happens”
@@Fucklifedeadshit it was like that back when i played around with scripts around 6-7 years ago, got a refferal from a friend and had some fun with it, it didn't cost any money but you could donate if you felt like it. Later it was changed to free for normal games and like 1$ subscription for ranked games and that was for the software, the actual scripts were made by other users with some fun stuff like universal gank alerter (only worked if you had vision of the enemy), garen spin2win script (made you buy only potions + rejuv, you can only use garens spin and you get "dizzy" from it), toaster loading (you can pause loading screen if you need to take a piss or something, back then the game waited for everyone to load).
Nowadays i bet it's different.
Yep. While i was sympathizing with elo boosters getting money and being super stressed out while playing in high elo, not sleeping etc, or e-girls getting harassed by creeps, you cannot make me do that for scripters. They just do it for the money, have no trouble doing it, and i would not feel bad in the slightest if they all got fucked by riot.
Honestly the best part of coming back to league after 7 years are the League Docu-tubers.
Love the video.
Hows that return to league? Enjoying it?
Not gonna lie I've been enjoying these league of documentaries, hope you keep making them Dong!
"Pro players are like 80 year olds compared to an AI "
Then there is Faker beating an infamous KR Karthus scripter.
there are specific champions scripting is 'less' beneficial, Xerath is the most common one ironically he is one of the easiest to beat, because the scripter gains perfect aim, but this is not considering greater concepts all the time like zoning. I feel like the lore itself xerath is a good champion to 'cheat' with was optimally internally selected as a literal trap for cheaters to both suck at the game, while also getting caught XD. so while basic scripts will make Xerath himself super obvious to be cheating, there needs to be some kind of extra complicated script to instead block the enemy units pathing, because that is actually significantly more useful for killing the enemy.
Like Xerath W, if the aim of it is completely encircling a target, then it's actually the shortest distance to escape it in any direction, giving the human responding to the skill shot, more time and options to react, than if you just block their path they will most optimally want to select with zoning. So the best actual uses of skillshots that are AoE like Xerath W are not always just a perfectly centered shot(they actually rarely are!), making defeating Xerath scripters actually more easy, than skilled Xerath players. Scripts also respond awkwardly to burst damage, the same way bots do not respect it the way humans do, and so if the scripter equally does not understand to respect burst damage, it can get the better of them quickly.
Anyway, scripting on karthus with the 'lesser' script, would probably be really horrible; they also probably get certain R cast that only proves they have bad map awareness, because it would only be pog if you didn't already know to push R XD. Karthus is unironically the original Yuumi select; highest impact for the least skill, and without any disrespect to these cheaters, they sure pick terrible champions to cheat on XD, it's almost like they don't know how to play the game.
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Faker literally mechanically outplayed a scripting program and beat him in his own game as Viktor vs Karthus while being spam ganked. Yes that was Prime Faker, but "impossible" is rather amusing to hear from NA shitheads who cannot hold the mouse in 2021.
@@bonesh0ckerz That line of the video is talking about reaction time when it comes to dodging skillshots. The script would input a command to move instantly. As in less than any human could react to anything. Faker is a god but any human player could not input to dodge faster than a script even if they are reacting to the animation. Also in the game that was a diamond player with diamond trading patterns and decision making that got to faker’s elo because of the scripts. Faker beat him because the scripts don’t change the diamond decisions the player made.
Really interesting. htese documentaries are cool.
6:15 *"they will spend their time on viego"
is what Dong actually wanted to say here
you need to work on volume control, your voice is perfect then every other voice is 150% louder
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Agree it can’t be hard to fix… cmon dong
I think its a sugma problem
I'm not trying to be mean or a scumbag to him, I just wasn't sure he was aware of this since the past couple vids have been like this. And i'm sure he would fix it if he knew about it since it is pretty noticeable.
@@trianglealfonso8493 idk what sugma is, but google says it mean "suck my" so i think i'm being set up for a joke here
"Riot was so inexperienced compared to these other companies."
Shows DotA2.
Valve is much more experienced when it comes to game dev, but they don't really care about game profits. Steam is their primary business.
@@tunahankaratay1523 idk, look at skins in csgo and tf2
Valve is worst company in the world, they are stupid and retarded. Their kidnapping of DotA is worst thing that happened to the gaming in recent gaming history.
@@zemljajeravna5336 are you an Epic games fanboy or something?
@@zemljajeravna5336 What do you mean by kidnapping? Blizzard wasn't interested in making of Dota 2 so hey, free market for icefrog i guess. Im getting an inkling that you aren't one of the smart ones out there... Or you are 14.
I've been playing League of Legends since like 2010 or whatever right when it came out. I have literally never had recurring issues with the client. I'm sure it's crashed a few or a handful of times throughout 12 years but no more than anything else.
Same. That's why I'm kinda confused a lot of people hate the "new" client. Or maybe you'll encounter problems if you play more than 8hrs a day or more
In the past I also had no problems with the client but the client now is literally broken. I got dodged because the queue won't load and I was disqualified from my promos. I was unable to ban several times. It showed no accept match on the client and it said that I didn't accept the match. I get 2 to 3 instances of these everyday when I try to play. It's literally dogshit and its really annoying because they are too focused on skins to fix the fucking client. (May the delt god derek from more plates more dates dot com bless you)
Yeah most of these problems are caused by overclicking buttons so client becomes confused or streamers playing 16 hours a day so client becomes unstable. Normal behaviour almost never gets these bugs, the pre game client is especially solid now.
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@@cattysplat the client is shit i tell you that as a programmer. I dont know what they use to make this window but there is definitely something wrong with it. Its not even overclicking. You click once on one window and then a second time on another and bam! Bug found! It is so badly written
Love that production value went up, absolutely hate the stock footage compilations tho.. it just feels weird in a league video
Just matched with a Sion with an autoaim nuclear missile ult, feels good
"The client isn't as bad as you think it is" then continues to go on about how easily someone can use the client to grief or troll players
Great video, but the sound isn't mixed really good. You're much more silent than the cheat-programmer sadly
"Who tf buys scripts?"
"Boosters"
"WHO TF BUYS BOOSTED ACCOUNTS?"
Casuals. Smurf accounts for pros and streamers. Dads. Tryhard kids. Basically everyone who wants to flex rank using cash despite having 0 earned skills.
@@cattysplat doesn't matter what rank you buy, you'll be falling down quickly to your own elo
@@cattysplat you could just lie and say you are challenger on your main
Funny enough, the ones developing scripts and stuff are the least scummy ones, the ones abusing the things they develop to ruin the game for others are the actual scum because they're the losers that spent money to try and feel better about themselves.
Not that I support the developers themselves, but at the end of the day, they are pretty much exposing the weaknesses in the games and are actually helping in the way certain animals or plants help their respective ecosystem, and as long as actual gamebreaking hacks aren't let to destroy the integrity of the game often, as Dong said, it's helpful to them!
It's all about money.. It is also not possible to stop Cheating.
Script makers are literally profitting of people cheating. I'd say they are the bigger scum for sure.
Really great edit and information is so clear to understand.
It always for me interesting for such things, as backdoors and scripting things. Thanks for the video!
all devs should see this video, lots of lessons
Imagine if more game devs would work with the modding community like Riot does with hackers.
Amazing documentary Dong, keep up the good work
Very interesting video, the amount of research and work behind it must have been enormous !
However, as a small improvement, I suggest better sound equalizing as there are a lot of sound difference between each speaker
I play master yi, scripters are useless against me
Amen to that ending. Literally every top coder of any class or job has that one story where they went...hey what if...and hilarity ensued.
THE KING HAS RETURNED!
ok hear me out imagine if both dong huap and gbay made a league documentary.
So a big part of this involves the shit client, why am I not surprised. Other companies are at least smart enough to switch clients as time passes, but dear old riot is hell bent on keeping this clunker junker going.
Man your thorough and no nonsense style translates really well into documentary. Nice iob.
0:20 "in terms of technology league is built off of very old shit" caught me off guard and had me giggling to myself.
0:22 Good old HTML hacking, lol.
Scripting was a massive problem at some point, it was at the times of season 5 or 6 if i recall correctly and more than 50k accounts were banned in a big banwave
it was mostly to apps that gave free skins, ofc money at the first place ;)
Not even scripting can get me out of bronze
but a booster xD
I can coach you out of bronze, for free, wouldn't be much work anyways. Hit me up.
@@ildisiri Go for it my man! Maybe you'll get a girlfriend this way!
Dude i fallow you for years !!! You are just improving that's amazing! Congratulations!!!🎉🎉🎉
surprised to see that the wadbot dev gave an interview lol
I quit playing LoL when 1 of the guy I knew who were on Bronze for months and then for some reason he got himself to Diamond the next time I saw him. Then I watch he play like face to face at cyber cafe and he obviously using script. That's the point I stop seeing him and stop playing the game at all.
Hate cheaters, what's the point. Get good.
@@XTen1000DaysX True. Although I quit playing LoL at season 6, I really missed all the time I hd from S1 - 6. Tryndamere & Phanteon are the characters that made me play the game at the first place.
Nobody makes more interesting league videos than DongHuaP
I stopped playing league 3 years ago, but I still somehow find myself watching your videos. The quality of your content is irresistible man.
Great stuff DongHuaP but pleaaase make the audio levels better next time.
Fun fact, you can actually downgrade the client and use the original release of league's client to play the game
How
@@plainidiot7596 It's for the same reason that you can open a .con file in a modern day windows computer. .con was the first ever file extension and windows has been built on top of DOS.
Same thing with league. The actual client is 90% the same with the only real difference being how it looks.
@@brohham3078 is it possible to downgrade back to season 5 when dominion map existed :(
@@plainidiot7596 it's technically possible to find the software needed to run Dominion on a server and then join the server but the work required to both get under Riot's radar AND maintain a server AND make all the champions function would be hard...
but if you are up for the challenge you could probably do it
I remember two years ago when a hacker game an interview don't remember to who. He said he had a script developed that can go from bronze to Master before getting banned.
You know it's interesting that you release this video now because just recently I and many other people started receiving multiple random friend requests from very sus pre-level 30 accounts probably trying to fish us or something.
Time to be script designer since it pays more than my college degree
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Every video you've made in the last 4 years I have loved. You are my favorite youtuber.
So, they become "friends" with script devs but instantly nuke chronoshift (league of legends in season 1) in the worst way possible. Great company
Been looking forward to this man. Thanks in advance
Really well done as always, never stop.
It's like a drug, I can't even force myself to play anymore without scripts.
Thank you bro … thank you… here’s the like I’ve been holding off of giving you for 2 years. Congratulations and thank you .
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the pictures that you're showing on the background while they talk makes me explode in laughter lol
everyone saying dong was too quiet was 100% muching HARD on some chips, I heard him fine. the anon voices were quite loud doe
Speaking of valorant there was this cheat called "covert cheats" that was completely undetected that was fully public and actually pretty cheap. They did exit scam after their reseller got sued though
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I wasted close to 9 years in league but never in this time period i encountered a scripter.
In one of their posts they did say that on average you encounter 1 per 400 ranked games... which is 200 hours roughly
Great video, only issue is the sound mixing. Other than that these videos are entertaining and informative.
This channel is fantastic, love your content man
To be fair, i have never encountered a cheater in league of legends ever, and thats kind of impressive considering its one off the most popular multiplayer games of all time.
Im 21 now and ive played league since i was 13 and ive only ran into scripers twice, a xerath and an olaf thay micro spaced everything
@@jacobluneberg597 exakt, till skillnad från csgo o r6s där man möter fuskare höger o vänster.
I saw my first scripter/exploiter couple weeks ago. A guy was doing donuts in sion ult.
You can't really know if someone is scripting if you've never scripted before. Especially if that one doesn't do anything noticeable.
You may have but didnt notice. And mostly when their accounts get flagged for scripting they grt matched with/against another scripters
2nd guy a german tried to say "Database sozusagen" lmao 😂 04:40
For some reason this wasn’t shown in my recommend, you should put a community post out so people know
oh wow they actually got rid of the aram skin boost bug that was so useful
Garena: Anti-Cheat? Wtf is that? We don't even ban toxicity down here.
this didnt show up in my subscription feed, idk why almost missed a video from the dong man
These series of videos are really good and interesting big ups big dong
loving this series so far
thank you for your efforts i dearly hope hacking and griefing through exploits will end in league of legends
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I legit don't understand why anyone would ever use cheats in a pvp game (not including if it is purely for the purpose of boosting for money). Like how is it fun/enjoyable/anything to cheat. Anything you gain while doing so is fake. It's beyond pathetic.
Finally someone acnowledges the lobby exploit. Queue in Brazil is almost impossible to play in high elo because of this
Hackers are hackers. Ill intent or not, cheating in games is the second worst offence you can commit. Ill give props to Riot for implementing a anticheat software.
they should re do entirely the client's code.
from scratch.he would take the time it take but still should be better
8:00 The concept of gateway drugs, at least in the way you describe it, has been readily disproven. People don't become heroin addicts by smoking weed, but rather other opioids. The overwhelming majority of heroin addicts in the US started with prescription drugs. The entire opioid crisis was engineered by companies like McKinsey, so it's weird that you would phrase your analogy as you did. I get the point you're trying to make, but your method of choice is actively misrepresenting a crisis that has been, and still is, killing millions of people all over the world.
HEY MAN, I THINK THE MUSIC WASNT LOUD ENOUGH AT THE BEGINNING PLEASE TURN IT UP 😀
Today I figured out how mediocre i am, was playing ranked game, I honestly had never been so ruled an entire game, the moment I realized ive been playing league for around 9 years and my peak was diamond 4. 2 years ago. Now im honestly frustrated. Not like usual, but I really think that I cannot reach a high rank, the issue is... I cant accept it. I only think of practice, but still cannot see a future where I can play again in high ranks. This is just me allowing myself to sorta turn it into something public, so i can accept it easily. Im dumb, thats it, good night
Don't worry my guy, unless you're getting paid to play league, it's fine if you don't reach a high rank. I get the struggle of climbing and getting better because I've done it before.
THIS VIDEO WASNT IN MY SUBSCRIPTIONS TAB JUSY LETTING YOU KNOW
DongHua, wonderful explanation. Gave the like and all.
But let me ask you something: Has any of the big cheaters told you about the russian server, or they are keeping quiet about how many matches of that server go ham on cheats up to the limit? I just hope that Riot finally grabs their stuff together, and puts all the eloboost and the cheat websites down. Because that's what they should do, and reform entirely the client.
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Great content man, keep it up
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lmao these stock vids in the background while you are explaining are hilarious
i love how the epic music plays as ur roasting riot client
Dong with the banger again lets gooo
The "i didn't go to school I teach myself and I develop this in my parents garage" classic. It's always like that LMAO
When can we see it on Netflix? lol
Your documentary are very interesting and well done good Sir.