Thanks for the response :) We got them down(On Durumu now!) We put everyone on sul, lusted, and once first posession goes out, our melee stayed on sul while our ranged burned personal CDs on the posessed. Has been working wonderfully for our raid comp. Thanks again!
We have been wiping on Council for almost 50 times now. It is true that the Frost guy will always start, but we have seen all 3 others getting possessed after that as 2nd - most often the roller guy. Also - it is very very rare for us, that he actually goes back to possessing the Frost guy
Great guide guys! So you guys are aware, the order is always as follows. Malakk first, then next highest on health of the remaining 3, then next highest on health of the remaining 2, then finally the last one regardless of how much health he has in comparison to the others. After that it goes to what seems like whoever has the highest health. We're not sure if it does cycle through all 4 again after that since we generally had it down by the second set of swaps.
That mod is Tidy Plates. It doesn't really mark the target, but it changes what the built-in character plates look like when shown (by default the "V" key").
The order is Frost King, then whichever boss is on the highest hp. It's usually Kazra'jin because you have a tank on Mar'li and Sul gets damaged a lot at the start. Then whichever has more hp out of Mar'li and Sul, and then it keeps going round jumping to the one with the highest HP. So if your raid group prefers one of their specials more than another, you can always engineer so you get this one first (by dropping the other three to lower hp)
Dont know if anyone else has confirmed this to you already, but the possesed will always go to the boss with highest remaining HP. However in the first 4 posses no boss can be possesed more than once.
Just a quick tip. For our kill we left 2 DPS killing Sul at ALL TIMES and didn't get a single sandstorm, that makes the fight a fuck ton of a lot easier :) So it's easy to 2 heal.
heya guys. a suggestion to this fight is having a druid tank geared with dodge to tank malakk. i'm normally doing this on 10 man and normally i don't get more than 7-10 stacks. he just can't hit me at all. as long as you save the Savage Defense for the Fridig Assault phase your good.
We almost cleaned ToT now,just wanted to give you a few tips because you cared enough to answer my old question. On council best tactcs is to nuke sul all the time and switch to the possessed one,we had every dps doing around 120k dps so one of them was on Sul all the time,if youre lower than that than just everyone switch. On Tortos use heal over time just before quake,use healthstones and druid can use simb on shaman to get a tranq while moving.On megaera remember to spread,the hitbox is huge.
Hey guys, thanks so much for your videos. Your time, knowledge, and effort put into these is much appreciated. And the humor and entertainment is great as well.
since Sul is the boss you´re killing first meaning he is the lowest HP boss, the Loa spirit will walk after Sul to heal him, so make sure Priest and sul, is always far from each other. Except ! when Priest is Empowered, the Loa spirit will not attempt to heal any boss´s, at this point the 2nd tank the one tanking Sul and Frost king will run his 2 boss´s to the priest boss, so you can stack 3 boss´s giving you additional cleave dps.
simplest tactic we did... nuke sand guy to ~50% than switch to the enraged boss while 1 melee was sticking on the sand guy. We menaged to kill him before 1st sandstorm and from that point on is straight home run. Epic video tho =))
Thanks! We just got them down on Monday actually with the dps first three guys, lust/burn sul(keeping 1 dps w/ a fast interrupt on sul the whole time). Downed them without a single loss.
Insane and awesome that you guys already have this out. Thanks so much for all your awesome, well explained videos. They've helped me immensely with my raiding. Thanks FatbossTV! :3
We just started on council. Glad to see it scales up from LFR much more simply that Horridon. 3 healers each doing about 70K. Didn't have a problem with adds - just not enough heals :)
This strategy is difficult to execute if you have a melee heavy setup though. As we learnt the hard way with 20+ wipes . What we ended up doing was to pull all the bosses (Kaz aside) on top of each other, ignore the blessed loa spirit and just cleave everything with focus on Sul and just assigned a healer to the guy with the frostbite and didn't stack up at all, since we only had 3 ranged ppl two of which were healer. 2 attempts later we killed them.
You can ask him to share his UI. It looks like bartender 4 to me. For the bars that shows abilities/spells being cast there are many possibilities such as enabling cast bar on unit frame (such as Shadowed Unit Frame), or using special addon such as Quartz or Gnosis
I'm having problems when Sul gets possesed ,im a top healer and i got one shoted from adds than spawn 4 times in the row . Just as soon as the storm ends a ton of adds start moving to me and one shot me,you explained that they spawn in a different way,did they change that ?
Much easier tactic, 2 heal, 6 DPS and 2 Tanks. Pop hero at start, nuke Sul until first add, kill add then kill empowered. Leave one Melee and Tank on Sul at all times for interrupts and damage. At each empowerment switch to Sul for 10% of his health and on the 3rd one, kill Sul before switching to empowered boss. Means you never get the Sand Adds up, Sand bolts are gone once he's dead an no more sand traps. Makes the fights extremely trivial.
does any one knows how may i make my hunter like this hunter ? i mean, where the spells are and the main spells in the middle and so .. is this an addon or what ?
I always research fatboss guides to rains before raiding with my guild and im gratified when they reinforce something i worked out for myself, namely - Nuke Sul, no really ignore purple a bit, nuke sul xD Every LFR people be all 'get purple' and be all like BUGGER THAT NUKE SUL and then we nuke sul and everythings cool and im like 'Yeah' So Thanks fatboss!
watching this whilst in a ready check and during the fight really helped :) i was tank and after a few stuns we got better at taunting, but that thing is horrible (:B ty
Well that's good to know. the fact its been basically random on our attempts lead me to believe otherwise. and in the vid they specifically said they weren't sure if it was set in stone. so i added my comment.
It's not set in stone who gets possessed. The only one thats set in stone. Is the frost guy is first. We had random guys get possessed 2nd on each of our attempts. Typically the rolling guy was 2nd. Bt we had some attempts where the quicksand guy was 2nd. And some where marley was 2nd. So there's not a real set thing.
I don't get why they don't just use the LFR tactics and pop BL at the start nuking sul down carrying on with ranged on purple melee on sul, melee only changing from sul when needed to assist on the possessed or when sul dies obviously. its what my guild does for this fight its so much easier rather then dealing with Sul's possession. to me this just seems like over complicating something which is as simple as LFR.
Nah, it's more like: "Fight starts. Mage spams Nether Tempest on all the bosses. Fight ends. Mage dominates the DPS meters." Happens every time in LFR. I'm always top DPS by a mile.
this is all verry confusing...if the rolling boss gets empowered, wouldn't it be good to just let him be empowered to the end of the fight since he doesn't do anything special, and just nuke other 3 bosses :)
Thanks for the response :) We got them down(On Durumu now!) We put everyone on sul, lusted, and once first posession goes out, our melee stayed on sul while our ranged burned personal CDs on the posessed. Has been working wonderfully for our raid comp. Thanks again!
We have been wiping on Council for almost 50 times now. It is true that the Frost guy will always start, but we have seen all 3 others getting possessed after that as 2nd - most often the roller guy.
Also - it is very very rare for us, that he actually goes back to possessing the Frost guy
Great guide guys! So you guys are aware, the order is always as follows.
Malakk first, then next highest on health of the remaining 3, then next highest on health of the remaining 2, then finally the last one regardless of how much health he has in comparison to the others. After that it goes to what seems like whoever has the highest health.
We're not sure if it does cycle through all 4 again after that since we generally had it down by the second set of swaps.
It is set in stone who gets possessed. At first it is frost, after that it is always the add with most health, meaning you can control it.
That mod is Tidy Plates. It doesn't really mark the target, but it changes what the built-in character plates look like when shown (by default the "V" key").
The order is Frost King, then whichever boss is on the highest hp. It's usually Kazra'jin because you have a tank on Mar'li and Sul gets damaged a lot at the start. Then whichever has more hp out of Mar'li and Sul, and then it keeps going round jumping to the one with the highest HP. So if your raid group prefers one of their specials more than another, you can always engineer so you get this one first (by dropping the other three to lower hp)
Dont know if anyone else has confirmed this to you already, but the possesed will always go to the boss with highest remaining HP. However in the first 4 posses no boss can be possesed more than once.
I love knowing all of the Monstercat songs and the fact that i have them all on my phone makes it even better
Just a quick tip. For our kill we left 2 DPS killing Sul at ALL TIMES and didn't get a single sandstorm, that makes the fight a fuck ton of a lot easier :) So it's easy to 2 heal.
heya guys. a suggestion to this fight is having a druid tank geared with dodge to tank malakk. i'm normally doing this on 10 man and normally i don't get more than 7-10 stacks. he just can't hit me at all. as long as you save the Savage Defense for the Fridig Assault phase your good.
We almost cleaned ToT now,just wanted to give you a few tips because you cared enough to answer my old question. On council best tactcs is to nuke sul all the time and switch to the possessed one,we had every dps doing around 120k dps so one of them was on Sul all the time,if youre lower than that than just everyone switch. On Tortos use heal over time just before quake,use healthstones and druid can use simb on shaman to get a tranq while moving.On megaera remember to spread,the hitbox is huge.
Hey guys, thanks so much for your videos. Your time, knowledge, and effort put into these is much appreciated. And the humor and entertainment is great as well.
since Sul is the boss you´re killing first meaning he is the lowest HP boss, the Loa spirit will walk after Sul to heal him, so make sure Priest and sul, is always far from each other.
Except ! when Priest is Empowered, the Loa spirit will not attempt to heal any boss´s, at this point the 2nd tank the one tanking Sul and Frost king will run his 2 boss´s to the priest boss, so you can stack 3 boss´s giving you additional cleave dps.
simplest tactic we did... nuke sand guy to ~50% than switch to the enraged boss while 1 melee was sticking on the sand guy. We menaged to kill him before 1st sandstorm and from that point on is straight home run. Epic video tho =))
Thanks! We just got them down on Monday actually with the dps first three guys, lust/burn sul(keeping 1 dps w/ a fast interrupt on sul the whole time). Downed them without a single loss.
Insane and awesome that you guys already have this out. Thanks so much for all your awesome, well explained videos. They've helped me immensely with my raiding. Thanks FatbossTV! :3
Monstercat music! You guys just earned some brownie points from me.
your UI is very cool. this fight is INSANE. thanks for the break down!
The possess order was the same for all our attempts too, so I assume it's fixed.
They did explain. It was due to how hard it is the move the "healer" add
We just started on council. Glad to see it scales up from LFR much more simply that Horridon. 3 healers each doing about 70K. Didn't have a problem with adds - just not enough heals :)
This strategy is difficult to execute if you have a melee heavy setup though. As we learnt the hard way with 20+ wipes . What we ended up doing was to pull all the bosses (Kaz aside) on top of each other, ignore the blessed loa spirit and just cleave everything with focus on Sul and just assigned a healer to the guy with the frostbite and didn't stack up at all, since we only had 3 ranged ppl two of which were healer. 2 attempts later we killed them.
You can ask him to share his UI. It looks like bartender 4 to me.
For the bars that shows abilities/spells being cast there are many possibilities such as enabling cast bar on unit frame (such as Shadowed Unit Frame), or using special addon such as Quartz or Gnosis
Healing reduction effects can be used in this fight? To counter Blessed Loa Spirit, if she reach the boss.
Can u make a vid about the hunter's UI? Looks really cool!
Kazra'jin is a reference to Blanka from Street Fighter I guess.
He has lightning, orange hair and a green troll skin. AND HE ROLLS!!
We got the same order, most of the time. On one try we got Mar'li second instead of Blanka.
I've heard there's a functional strat that involves lusting at the beginning and nuking down sul.. true or false?
May I ask something? What build is chrisbehk using? Hit/exp? Avoidance? Mastery?
Anyone know what the addon is on hunter that has the skills in middle of screen.
Are you on Alterac Mountains? Because I said the same thing two weeks ago.
I'm having problems when Sul gets possesed ,im a top healer and i got one shoted from adds than spawn 4 times in the row . Just as soon as the storm ends a ton of adds start moving to me and one shot me,you explained that they spawn in a different way,did they change that ?
Much easier tactic, 2 heal, 6 DPS and 2 Tanks. Pop hero at start, nuke Sul until first add, kill add then kill empowered. Leave one Melee and Tank on Sul at all times for interrupts and damage. At each empowerment switch to Sul for 10% of his health and on the 3rd one, kill Sul before switching to empowered boss. Means you never get the Sand Adds up, Sand bolts are gone once he's dead an no more sand traps. Makes the fights extremely trivial.
Can you guys do a vid on the hunter ui
does any one knows how may i make my hunter like this hunter ?
i mean, where the spells are and the main spells in the middle and so .. is this an addon or what ?
So I don't see the heroic guide to this fight on your channel or youtube from you guys but I see all the other bosses after :/
Ummm do the bosses get any kind of enrage after the first one dies?
Why can't I watch some of these videos on my phone it says no stream
My group just stacked them up and focused the sand guy and ignored the healing add
whats the addon telling you how long readyness rapid fire and stampede have left on CD?
Anyone know what the mod is that marks his targets? As in the shadowed lei spirit at 1:29?
was there ever a hc council guide made?
I always research fatboss guides to rains before raiding with my guild and im gratified when they reinforce something i worked out for myself, namely - Nuke Sul, no really ignore purple a bit, nuke sul
xD
Every LFR people be all 'get purple' and be all like BUGGER THAT NUKE SUL and then we nuke sul and everythings cool and im like 'Yeah'
So Thanks fatboss!
watching this whilst in a ready check and during the fight really helped :) i was tank and after a few stuns we got better at taunting, but that thing is horrible (:B ty
alternatively if ur tanks and dps are good, u can stack them all up and cleave them all down, works like a charm even if u dont kill the loa's
shadow add can be casted on melee?
Hey great video, but you know, Kazra'jin's name stops being confusing once you read it.
can some 1 give me a link two 25 guid's for all the bosses or is 10 just the same ??
yeah what ui are you using? i want it.
what ui and what meter do you use?
what UI is the pally tank using?
Can u make a addon pack from this hunters UI, it looks so good!
is that rogue combat?
what addons do u use please tell me
Anyone know what UI addon they're using?
do they not have a council heroic guide or do i just not see it
what the name of the song in the background?
Well that's good to know. the fact its been basically random on our attempts lead me to believe otherwise. and in the vid they specifically said they weren't sure if it was set in stone. so i added my comment.
It's actually Shadowed Unitframes
that was the tank because of the vengeance (i think) and the rest is because of AoE
What UI does you use?
LFR? Nice going.
what UI are you using? i want it *-*
It's not set in stone who gets possessed. The only one thats set in stone. Is the frost guy is first. We had random guys get possessed 2nd on each of our attempts. Typically the rolling guy was 2nd. Bt we had some attempts where the quicksand guy was 2nd. And some where marley was 2nd. So there's not a real set thing.
Thanks guys
probaly power aura dont kill me if im wrong but thats seems the addon
I don't get why they don't just use the LFR tactics and pop BL at the start nuking sul down carrying on with ranged on purple melee on sul, melee only changing from sul when needed to assist on the possessed or when sul dies obviously. its what my guild does for this fight its so much easier rather then dealing with Sul's possession. to me this just seems like over complicating something which is as simple as LFR.
ahhh, nostalgia!
I like the Eminence - Ocean City :)
I would love to know your UI Addons ;)
True, but you need sufficient dps to get the empowered boss down 25%. Really good for farm, not so great for porgression.
Watching him click Feign Death makes me quite sad. That's all. Great video though as always.
we called him the rollie pollie
LFR? Wow, you're a rock star. Come back and tell us how that works out for you when you start doing real raids.
I see...thnx for info!
Nah, it's more like:
"Fight starts.
Mage spams Nether Tempest on all the bosses.
Fight ends.
Mage dominates the DPS meters."
Happens every time in LFR. I'm always top DPS by a mile.
HOW DID I NOT MAKE THAT CONNECTION!?
Is that a real question?
how is your lowest dps doing 100k? thats insane!
look like SUF "Shadowed Unit Frames"
wow top dps in LFR, someone give this guy a fucking medal. he should be able to solo lei shen at this point o man o MAN
that help a bunch TYVM
Very good tact vids but adverts are LAME
7:20 explains it
LOL Terrace Of The Endless..FUCK!. LOL
awesome video.
Thank you for making this.
It was very helpful. =)
rolling boss is Blanka from street fighter he's same skin and hair color and does the same move as him. XD
Dark Energy... 100% big AoE damage
4 tries and my guild killed this, we had 2 weeks of raiding on horridon :p
Looks really fun. :3
indeed
omg nimtaz needs to clean his bags. runecloth??
Awesome :D!
this is all verry confusing...if the rolling boss gets empowered, wouldn't it be good to just let him be empowered to the end of the fight since he doesn't do anything special, and just nuke other 3 bosses :)
OUTTA WAY!
cleave and dots
oke, thanks mate :)
it's just an action bar addon, like bartender or domino, probably
that boss name TORTOS!
dat bag....
I call the 2nd Boss Blanka as he shares alot of visual traits of the guy in street fighter