WHY IS NO ONE PLAYING THESE MANA ROCKS !

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  • @Auronx3
    @Auronx3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Glittering Stockpile - a 50 cent Uncommon! 2R cmc, taps for R. every time it taps put a stash counter on it. Can sac it for x mana of any one color where x is the number of stock counters.
    It can become a beefy add to any x spell later in the game, or just help you ramp into an earlier win con. I've found sacking it for just 2 additional mana of a color i wasn't hitting in my land drops was enough of a boost to win a game early when I'd normally be stuck waiting for the right mana.

    • @Sephiroth517
      @Sephiroth517 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      in the same vein there's also Shrine of Boundless Growth, a 2 cent unco, 3 cmc, who get a charge counter every upkeep, plus one for every green spell you cast, you can sac to get X colorless. (and there's one for every color, the blue scry, the black discard, the red damage creature/player and the white create 1/1 artifact tokens)

    • @Auronx3
      @Auronx3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right, but those only generate mana after sacing. Glittering stockpile taps for Red the turn it’s cast and every turn after, while still acquiring counters every upkeep.
      Still a cool budget add to go explosive with colourless.

  • @christophknorr4635
    @christophknorr4635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Crowded Crypt is in all my Aristocrats Decks, simply because it can be a Finisher that nobody sees coming.

    • @decktechsfordecks
      @decktechsfordecks  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      💯

    • @zackkelley2940
      @zackkelley2940 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Here's a bit of fun, but jank, synergy.
      Scavenging Ghoul ALSO uses corpse counters.
      Let Scavenging Ghoul accumulate corpse counters and then dump them on Crowded Crypt with Resourceful Defense (and/or Nesting Grounds) for even MORE zombies.
      I'm not entirely sure WHERE you would run all of these (Varina maybe) but I thought I'd mention it.

  • @umbranex9274
    @umbranex9274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I guess it's because Wilds of Eldraine didn't have flip cards, but omg Irencrag 100% should have just been a flip card lol

    • @kennethsnyder6849
      @kennethsnyder6849 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree. It seems like the perfect candidate for that mechanic. But no, we got a clunky thing instead and it doesn't even self equip when becoming that (which is a big drawback in my opinion). Probably why it isn't really used.

  • @BlueGriffin20
    @BlueGriffin20 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One mana rock cycle I really like is the Borderpost cycle. Pretty good for when you want the extra landfall triggers.

    • @kalonin5451
      @kalonin5451 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This so much. I love the borderposts, and I've gotten a few of my playgroup to start fitting them into their decks.

    • @robmitchell3039
      @robmitchell3039 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd say they're very situational. If land drops are important to your deck, they're great, but otherwise, they're pretty lackluster.

  • @andrewsutherland1909
    @andrewsutherland1909 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Honored Heirloom. 3 cost that taps for any color but comes with graveyard hate built in. 2 mana and taps to remove target card in a graveyard from the game. This comes in handy whenever I face someone in my pod playing any kind of recursion because they always forget my mana rock does this.

  • @Hex4066
    @Hex4066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another mana rock I rarely see brought up is Planar Atlas. Another rock in the 2 mana category that can help you hit another land drop if you want it to.
    Always a pleasant sight in a riskier 2 land opener!

  • @TedMattos
    @TedMattos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Oh my gosh. Thanks for pointing out that the "loses all other abilities" is for the artifact and not the creature. Otherwise, I was thinking, "Um... where's the value in this?" LOL
    This may go into my Sisay deck where I can tutor for it!

    • @MatthewMcNabb91
      @MatthewMcNabb91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It would be useful for my liberty prime deck then he wouldnt need 2 energy to attack or defend as there sre plenty of equipment to give vigilantce, trample, haste, etc

    • @gregh9176
      @gregh9176 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ugh another sisay player…. I hate you but not really though

  • @IceTutuola
    @IceTutuola 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I've literally got a whole list of these kinds of things on my phone, like Misleading Signpost, Midnight Clock, Hourglass of the Lost, Cursed Mirror, and even some kinda worse ones that are still cool like Ore-Rich Stalactite, Forger's Foundry, and another really cool one is Strixhaven Stadium. I absolutely love abandoning traditional mana rocks for ones with more synergy, even if it costs some tempo, because I just find it fun

    • @robmitchell3039
      @robmitchell3039 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love seeing people play cards that are different or unusual. It gets boring seeing the same stuff in every deck.

  • @captainmurphy4949
    @captainmurphy4949 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    a rock i like in my deck is Elementalist's Pallette, it goes great in my magus lucea kane deck where im constantly casting X spells every turn

  • @MichelleNghi
    @MichelleNghi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Relic of legends 😢😢😢

  • @steelberserk
    @steelberserk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Irencrag one was a missed opportunity, just giving +3/+3. For a legendary Artifact, it could've done a bit more.

  • @core_crystal
    @core_crystal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm really glad you discussed underplayed mana rocks that are truly underrated and not just janky/low power. These are perfectly good cards that also have an incredible role in specific decks.

  • @guidomista2570
    @guidomista2570 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The irencrag makes me so mad because EVERYONE misreads it. Like you're literally just pulling the sword out of the stone, why would it take creature abilities away? it's a beautiful and flavorful card! I don't see how it's not just the first extra mana rock you grab when you're doing voltron.

    • @greatbrandini3967
      @greatbrandini3967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The equip 3 is pretty expensive for just +3/+3. I couldn't even justify it in my < $100 Boros budget deck

    • @aaroneisenman6873
      @aaroneisenman6873 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@greatbrandini3967
      Well, if you are using equipment, you are running equip cost reduction....

    • @greatbrandini3967
      @greatbrandini3967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaroneisenman6873 the post was talking about Voltron, not specifically equipment. Yes, in an equipment deck, The Irencrag should be an auto-include. For decks not focused on equipment, it's much worse.
      The Irencrag also has the downside of massively setting you back if your commander gets removed. You're now down a mana rock, and your commander is more expensive

  • @DyPie527
    @DyPie527 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Irencrag one on my list of underrated cards as well.
    Ebony fly, same thing.
    Liquimetal Torque I've been telling everybody. I've been able to do such strong things. Not only does it make your removal more versatile but you get to combo on very silly ways. Think like Sculpting Steel synergies. Otherwise there's also the fact that it allows for your mono opponents to remove a problematic card they otherwise wouldn't be able to touch on the field.
    Wand of the Worldsoul is something I was big on. Ran it in my token storm deck. However, it hasn't really popped off yet, but it def has potential.
    Crowded crypt is good with blood artist etc. Absolutely nuts card.

  • @jbs6614
    @jbs6614 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for clarifying what’s stated on the Irencrag. now i can put it in one of my decks 🤣

  • @simonboucher5170
    @simonboucher5170 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey man i have like 20 commander decks and i'm constantly trying to fit some cheap mana rocks because i'm not a millionaire.
    The irencrag definitely passed under my radar i'm happy to have clicked on your video. Cards are coming out so fast these days i cannot keep up with all the commun/uncommon stuff coming out.
    Thanx for the advice !

  • @FiveStringC
    @FiveStringC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks man didnt know about a bunch of these. Definitely gonna try ebony fly in my Etali deck. The ability is a bit expensive but its just stapled on rock so the floors pretty high.

  • @ufoturtle08
    @ufoturtle08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great finds OP! I probably will slot two of these into existing decks.

  • @L_Zant
    @L_Zant 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I run colorless and let me tell you how much is just helped my deck out introducing me to Ebony Fly and helping me realize Irencrag is about itself and not the creature. How is this card not way more expensive?

    • @whahala555
      @whahala555 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Robably because a lot of people don't realize it's about the card and not the creature it's attached to.

  • @dutroka
    @dutroka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Krav loves the crowded crypt

  • @Benjithegreat37
    @Benjithegreat37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I usually run the bland mana rocks on my first test run of decks. After I figure out how the deck works, and runs I drop the boring ones and add in spice like Coveted Jewel, Saervoks Tomb, and others

  • @PatrickDaddy
    @PatrickDaddy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kickass suggestions. That white wand is going in the new Millicent deck 💯

  • @narutoandbleachrules
    @narutoandbleachrules 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you can, I recommend Orcish Lumberjack. Just a red and it can repeatedly tap for 4 R/G mana

  • @RockerNathan97
    @RockerNathan97 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should make a video on Deckbuilding theory! That’d be a very nice video!

  • @eduardofuentes4401
    @eduardofuentes4401 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As always, great content, my friend! Keep them coming 😁

  • @Sylusssss
    @Sylusssss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love irencrag in voltron, very underrated, and remember its a may so if you need to keep the rock you can
    Wand of the world soul is the bees knees
    Some absolutely anazing things can be done with it in the right deck

  • @rastrisfrustreslosgomez544
    @rastrisfrustreslosgomez544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a brewer myself and I like deckbuilding challenges. A friend of mine once challenged me to craft a deck that did not use sol ring. The deck I came up with was a monoR very aggresive, very fast and with a bunch of artifacts AOE that way it would be ill adviced to run sol ring since You would only shatter(storm) it to Oblivion yourself every single Game. That red deck is still to this day one of the strongest deck I own, and it's all thanks to me choosing not to run one of the strongest cards in it

  • @shaggiedave9424
    @shaggiedave9424 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crowded Crypt is in my Wilhelt deck. It's given me the win a couple of times.

  • @OctoPedes
    @OctoPedes หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a Crowded Crypt would be great in my Mutant Menace upgraded deck. I'm using a lot of proliferate to up 1+/1+ counters, rad counters and poison counters.

  • @dreddbolt
    @dreddbolt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Territory Forge is really nice removal, especially when you can exile a mana rock. Then, making a copy of Territory Forge is quite amusing. My mono🔴 Slobad (Goblin Tinkerer) EDH has quite a few toys to play with.

  • @spartan316kaos
    @spartan316kaos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crowded Crypt + Mirkwood Bats + Nadier's Nightblade sounds fun

  • @calebhehl3404
    @calebhehl3404 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I run decanter of endless water in all of my decks, it's basically an extra copy of arcane signet that costs one extra mana but gives me no max hand size

    • @Flum666
      @Flum666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no max hand size is free you just need to play a land? why would you ever pay 1 extra mana for that?

    • @calebhehl3404
      @calebhehl3404 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Flum666 I already have reliquary tower. And I run decanter because it's an combination of arcane signet and thought vessel

  • @rogerrabbit132
    @rogerrabbit132 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Irencrag might be fun to try out in Sisay, Weatherlight Captain. I run Crowded Crypt in my Zombie deck.

  • @Sinistra359
    @Sinistra359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh wow, i need the ironcrag in my Eivor deck lol

  • @littlemunchkinman2794
    @littlemunchkinman2794 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, just finished the vid and am loving the use of liquimetal torque, as I use in a jan jansen deck. But I was wondering if you could do a deck tech for one of my more recent obsessions. Tyvar the Bellicose.

  • @BrootalMetalBanjo
    @BrootalMetalBanjo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just had a game where I was carried by Wand of the Worldsoul Relic of Legends. I swear by these new 3cmc rocks

  • @julianstrnad222
    @julianstrnad222 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for explaining Ironcrag to me, got that one wrong as well 😂

  • @zigzagzoom369
    @zigzagzoom369 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I run Wand of the Worldsoul (along with Springleaf Drum) in my Urtet Myr deck since it untaps all my creatures every turn

  • @Alex-lf5oz
    @Alex-lf5oz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Irencrag is in almost every Brawl deck on Arena. Torque is used a lot more for its other ability.

  • @CptSaveABro808
    @CptSaveABro808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for posting. 🤙🏽

  • @guynes2013
    @guynes2013 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would Liquimetal work with Karn for an exiled "target permanent"? This could be a great way to get things back into play from exile!

  • @ubertuna1
    @ubertuna1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Coalition Relic and Skyclave Relic, my dude. The best 3 mana rocks!

  • @justinayran
    @justinayran 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Strixhaven Stadium can be a surprise wincon in a go wide deck.

  • @viniciussilvatorrero9950
    @viniciussilvatorrero9950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would put sonic screwdriver on the list,
    It is colorfixing, can untap an artifact, give u a scry and evasion depending on what u need

  • @Naykid391
    @Naykid391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite thing to do with Liquidmetal Torque is copy my opponents stuff with Sculpting Steel.

  • @Luckie_7
    @Luckie_7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In mono color decks I try to have a few less rocks bc I’m aiming to have more colored mana to pay for my creatures and enchants with a lot of colored pips

  • @KAPLOWshows
    @KAPLOWshows หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use crowded crypt I my black green zombie deck it's especially good with dubbleing season

  • @ericeriksson
    @ericeriksson หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm putting ironcrag in my yargle & multani deck immediately.

  • @thomashartl828
    @thomashartl828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honor-Worn Shaku...one of the best

  • @alejandroguerrieri2924
    @alejandroguerrieri2924 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You forgot one that creates tons of value in many heavy artifact decks. Inspiring statuary.

    • @mibbzx1493
      @mibbzx1493 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its not a mana rock that taps for mana tho

    • @zackkelley2940
      @zackkelley2940 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mibbzx1493 Technically not a mana rock, but if you're running a lot of artifacts that don't care if they're tapped (equipment, clues, food 99% of the time) I'd count it.

    • @jakecarlson3709
      @jakecarlson3709 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Technically it isn’t, but it is an artifact that can be tapped to pay an improvise cost. That means it functionally taps for 1.

    • @jessejro7408
      @jessejro7408 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a heavy artifact player I hate this card. It looks like it would be good but I'd rather play something that benefits artifacts in my artifact deck. Not to mention but it's a bit underwhelming compared to Archway of Innovation.

    • @guyinthecorner0
      @guyinthecorner0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jakecarlson3709 new tech: every artifact is now a rock. 🙄

  • @kennyfleck8630
    @kennyfleck8630 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I built a deck to take advantage of irencregs secondary ability and fevered champion, who can reduce equip costs for itself by 3, so free, basically...

  • @chrism4919
    @chrism4919 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crowded crypt looks great for my Cesaer deck

  • @Andy-iq6rk
    @Andy-iq6rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1st mana rock is a mana rock that doesn't wanna be one, also this seems more like utility artifacts that also can tap for mana.

  • @AngelStickman
    @AngelStickman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I honestly just expected the five colored moxes.

  • @jonothanthrace1530
    @jonothanthrace1530 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Combine Crowded Crypt with Siege Zombie for maximum undead funtimes.

  • @BisyBackson365
    @BisyBackson365 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Coveted jewel is nasty right?

    • @jackcois6077
      @jackcois6077 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Coveted jewel has a vintage deck built around it, its very good.

  • @madfinnishgamer38
    @madfinnishgamer38 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh hey, I have Crowded Crypt in a deck. :D

  • @emilefrancis2579
    @emilefrancis2579 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    liquimetal torque! now i can consitently remove enchantments in grixis!

  • @thedanath
    @thedanath 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reason many people dont play the first three is because you dont want too many colourless mana rocks in a deck. The other two while interesting seem to only fit into a few deck types.

  • @UltraDonny5000
    @UltraDonny5000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a top 5 cards for trash talk and how to make a deck around them?
    (I.E: Coalhauler Swine is built for your mom jokes, but I can't justify putting it in a deck.)

  • @cjh.1920
    @cjh.1920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use liquimetal torque in Megatron to shoot people’s creatures at them after I steal em

  • @Sutefusama
    @Sutefusama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The "" that Nadu should have gotten

  • @jangolangthespy
    @jangolangthespy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crypt instant army is fun after boardwipe

  • @wherestheshroomsyo
    @wherestheshroomsyo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crowded crypts is perfect for my new jank edh deck. I was excited until I saw that it's $5. I only like budget cards.

  • @jean-baptistedelabroise5391
    @jean-baptistedelabroise5391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    liquimetal torque is great in my Rebbec + Silas renn deck

    • @zackkelley2940
      @zackkelley2940 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of the few cards I seriously consider putting in EVERYTHING....
      even mono-black (Pairs very well with Gate to Phyrexia and they're both useful on their own).

  • @4real51
    @4real51 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol I'm new to the game and I play crowded crypt in my zombie aristocrats deck 😂

  • @craigstuckey319
    @craigstuckey319 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Irencrag is unplayable because it makes the creature lose all other abilities. It straight knee caps your voltron commanders. That was unnecessary text. Otherwise it would be fine.

    • @balian9177
      @balian9177 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude, he even explains the misread. Read again

  • @nzephier
    @nzephier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gotta snag me a crowded crypt asap before it goes up in price

  • @kevinkozlowski3958
    @kevinkozlowski3958 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Irencrag and liquid metal are fine the rest are incredibly niche

  • @jonothanthrace1530
    @jonothanthrace1530 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Irencrag feels like it should transform instead.

  • @Rabid_Wombat
    @Rabid_Wombat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's real old but Jeweled Amulet from Ice Age is cool 😎

    • @zackkelley2940
      @zackkelley2940 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jeweled Amulet would go great in a proliferate and/or charge counters deck.
      As long as you've used the first ability at least once, it doesn't really matter where the charge counters are coming from (unless you want to change the color it's tapping for).

  • @craigstuckey319
    @craigstuckey319 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pillar of Origins is the best unknown mana rock in the game. Why do I never see it? It's just another Arcane Signet for typal decks running 30+ creatures.

  • @lucasbenattii
    @lucasbenattii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎉🎉🎉

  • @FrenchCanadianGuy
    @FrenchCanadianGuy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This PSA gets 9 ou of 10, 9 times out of 10

  • @xdogsauce5487
    @xdogsauce5487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video

  • @Metroidhunter13
    @Metroidhunter13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No sisays ring? What?

  • @Just-a-Canuck
    @Just-a-Canuck 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9 times out of 10 people have removal for artifacts before they have removal for a creature? 🤔 my play group must be weird, we rarely have an answer for a good artifact 😆

  • @petrirautiala3038
    @petrirautiala3038 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cursed Mirror anyone? Has always outperformed for me

  • @xxthevampirate
    @xxthevampirate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that you think Irencrag belongs on a top 5 list instead of bottom 5 list of mana rocks surprises me... you wouldnt play an equipment like everflame in a voltron deck let alone any other deck that doesn't have an equipment theme why would you play a rock that might tap for mana once because the first time you play a legendary creature it transforms and if choose not to you just have a bad mind stone. Torque is good and it sees a fairly high amount of play in the specific decks and a decent amount of play in decks it shouldn't (4% of all decks), why is it in a list of rocks people dont play? Ebony fly is 4 mana for a jump effect for one turn... if you need evasion there are much better ways to get it in your deck. Just type "flying" "end of turn" into scryfall if you need help.

  • @feeroldent9462
    @feeroldent9462 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No one plays Mana Crypt!

  • @Gleebusaz
    @Gleebusaz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn 2nd 😢

    • @decktechsfordecks
      @decktechsfordecks  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “If you ain’t first you’re last”

  • @Flum666
    @Flum666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    because they suck

  • @nobodyshome6792
    @nobodyshome6792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not everyone uses the Talismans despite them coming in just about every precon.
    While every card you mention can be considered a mana-rock, they actually are *not* mana rocks. To be a mana rock, it must ONLY produce mana.

    • @greatbrandini3967
      @greatbrandini3967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not sure where you heard that, but I've never heard that last restriction. Mana rocks are widely considered to be non-creature artifacts that help cast your spells in some way, shape, or form.
      Would you consider cards like Mind Stone, Commander's Sphere, or Thought Vessel as mana rocks? They all have utility outside of mana production, but their primary purpose is still mana production

  • @te2934
    @te2934 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fractured Powerstone, Prismatic Lens, Overflowing Chalice.
    Fractured Powerstone IS LEGAL in commander even though it has an ability to "Roll the Planar Die"

  • @timewalkwithme
    @timewalkwithme 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have Liquimetal Torque in my Aladdin deck. (He's legendary as far as I'm concerned.)