The normal Osu is so garbage compared to the other modes it has in terms of difficulty and song maps people make. Osumania and even the Taiko one are a lot better. Can't comment on catch the beat since that's more of an arcade game with music than a rhythm game IMO.
I would have to say that pop'n music comes in second. You'd need to be a god tier player to be good at pop'n music. Not just anyone is going to be able to clear level 46-50 charts.
@komo btw, I just discovered that there is a gameplay of 18 keys in 'EZ2AC' (or what is called a '16k' gameplay). At that point, I'm slowly dying in laughter. 🤣💀
Good list! I haven't kept up with IIDX in ages, but it's nice to see that Mei is still considered one of the hardest, because that song is just goddamn ridiculous.
I'm not surprised at Beach Side Bunny being second and Mei being first LOL. I see loads of people struggle with Beach Side Bunny during the KAC 2013 IIDX tournament.
Well, although I am a total noob in IIDX (Lvl 7 :D), I really enjoy the video and the presentation. I'd love to see an update if some newer Songs challenged the top 10 in the meantime. Between Lincle and Pendual there must be new challenges after all.
+Jack Hadaki Stuck on 11s for a long time. 1,5 years to be exact, yet still try to play 12s and I was even able to A 2 or 3 12s xD. btw,I think that 3y3s deserves a much higher rank on the list because scratching while having this intense chart in an art of its own.
Yep, though this game gives a solid F-U to those that try to 1 hand this game. In the Tatsujin movie mode on 6th style, Lisu, renouned 1 handed player at the time, has to resort to 2 hands at the buildup to the climax of V on another, and this was way back in 5TH STYLE (it's a straight 2-4 measure of a 1-3-5-7 2-4-6 drum roll)
The scratches in #2 make it much more difficult than it looks (especially since some of those scratches are 24ths), as many of those key patterns have to practically be done by one hand. As for Scorpion Fire, I can see why it isn't on this, as most of the song isn't that hard; only the ending is really that notable.
Yea that variance judge timing on old 5key beatmanias were quite annoying more often than not. But it gave birth to a hilarious homage which is Gambol [a]
Contents: bad maniacs(beatmania IIDX 17 SIRIUS) u*taka got 3,270 (all-time national top score)...lol quell ～the seventh slave～ Two SPA full combo players and one DPA full combo players. Nageki no Ki(beatmania IIDX 13 DistorteD) DOLCE has SPA full combo and ereter DPA full combo…crazy lol Go Beyond!!(beatmania IIDX 16 EMPRESS) DOLCE has 2283 (MAX-49) He's so crazy lol. 3y3s(IIDX EMPRESS) quasar was full combo with HAZARD option (if it misses, it FAILED immediately) lol Almagest(IIDX SIRIUS) DOLCE reaches 3179 (MAX-79) perditus†paradisus(IIDX Resort Anthem) DOLCE reaches 3921 (MAX-209) Himiko(IIDX EMPRESS) u*taka achieves 4107 (MAX-131, tops all time in the country) Syakunetsu-Beach-Side-Bunny (IIDX Resort Anthem) DOLCE reach 3333 and trended on Twitter lol(I hear it's also known as the "Monster Dishwasher" because of its ability to turn the scratch.) Mei(IIDX HAPPY SKY) Ragukunsan achieved full combo, and u*taka reached 3916.
Amazing the different perspective you get seeing some of these songs on a different game style. I'm a DDR player so I've played Mei on a dance pad multiple times, but watching Mei [A] just...oh my God, love it.
There was always one mod that I wanted since the 5 key beatmania days...Auto Key mode, where you have to only scratch the turntable...though it still won't make the Beach Side bunny remix any easier
I wonder why he didn't choose PARADISE LOST into TOP 10 lists. PL is much harder than Bad Maniacs and quell. I guess the author completely forget about it XD
What sucks about #2 is that since one hand has to be occupied for the whole time on just the turntable action, the other hand has to do all of the work for the 7 keys. It is so hard to work all 7 keys with one hand. It could come easy for some, but definitely not me. You could try to transfer some of that weight over by working the edge 2 keys with your turntable hand, but then you'll just get confused.
Today, there are many changes about 'Hardest' songs in IIDX. Bad maniacs, quell, Nageki no ki, Almagest are no longer in hardest. Instead, there are many candidates such as 'Elemental Creation', 'PENDULEMs', 'Confiserie' and so on.
+moviedude XD About Single, Another pattern? well.. First of all, FLOWER has high density in the latter part. so it is hard among the level 11. and Anisakis has hard scratch checks in last part. so it might be difficult for low-11 level runners. but both of songs are not hardest in 11 levels
+moviedude XD Evans has severe scratch checks in entire pattern. so if you are poor at handling this kind of pattern, you must feel this song is very hard.
+moviedude XD JOMANDA has weird speed-changing in middle of pattern. this section is not a problem with easy, normal gauge. but it is very difficult with hard, ex-hard gauge. Also JOMANDA has high density in latter pattern. so it is tough pattern with easy, normal gauge too
+moviedude XD in addition, there are solutions about speed-changing pattern in JOMANDA. ( textage.cc/score/20/jomanda.html?1AC00=15 ) as you can see, speed is reduced in 34. so solutions are 1. reduce hi-speed 0.5( Just push start butten and press white butten once quickly. ) in there before changing. 2. remove sudden+ ( Just press start butten 4 times, but if you don't use sudden+, this solution is useless. ) in there before changing 3. Just handle it 4. Use solutiin 1 in 18 ( I used it to ex-hard clear, but this solution requires high low-speed handling skill or use a cap has brim. like baseball cap. )
Nice video, hardest crap I can do is easy 11 anothers (that's like 2 for me :) Go Beyond is such an awesome song, wish I could pass the another lol. Think I'll go play it right now on Hyper!
no way, dude; mei is by far the hardest song. back when I last played (Gold) i could AAA/hard clear anything (AAAd golden cross, AA [the song not the grade], Quell and all the 12s on 6th-Gold except maybe piano concerto #1 and nageki no ki) but i never once cleared mei. it is nonstop fingerslaughter. it will probably never be equalled in future releases.
The scratches in beach side bunny r no joke. i tried to do it with my friend playing the 7 keys and i failed instantly at the rapid part. bad maniacs should move forward and perditus should move behind. but i still agrees with this list in the overall
I know this was back in 2012, but there were black another by then, unless this is limited to AC charts only. there are many black anothers that are harder than these.
Go Berzerk A14 is the hardest song in Beatmania... IIDX has some terrible A14 charts which weren't meant to be played one-player [beatmania IIDX 11 IIDXRED CS] Scott Brown - Go Berzerk [DP ANOTHER]
In addition, It is important to think about 'Gauge type' (Easy, Normal, Hard, EX-Hard). it means, some gauge type make hardest songs much easier we though. For example, Mei becomes easier a lot in Easy, Normal gauge ( in Hard or EX-Hard, it becomes damn hard ).
It's kind of hard to gauge what songs are the MOST difficult. Players are skilled in a variety of different areas so there are alot of songs which could easily make this list depending on peoples opinions. Mei is probably the hardest to hard clear but in terms of clearing, it's easier than nageki. Alternatively Red, Balck or snakestick could be put here i people such at scratching. It's really impossible to nominate 10 absolute winners
This movie is old, so it is different from now and some people succeeded these songs in this video full-combo. however, 冥 is still the most difficult song in ⅱdx.
the red notes on the chart. If you play this game you'll know that scratching the turntable and hitting buttons on the same measure back to back at that speed is pretty fucking ridiculous . Especially hearing that the turntables in the arcade are harder to spin compared to the iidx ps2 controller.
Plan 8 > Shakunetsu > everything else on both Clear/HC /end FC difficulty =/= chart difficulty, usually Mei is way down the list when it's about Normal Clear (around G59/YAKSHA tier)
Man with Plan 8, Confiserie, Elemental Creation and Timepiece phase II it's even harder to make up a top 10. I bet tricoro's true final boss will be a bitch too Mei is still probably the hardest when it comes to HARD CLEAR / EXH
I agree in most of the songs, but not in the order, i should put perditus paradisus lower on the top... maybe even at 10th place... also beach side bunny should be lower too... aside from that, good top ten... :3
If you play these games long enough and get used to their timing, you (have to) read the notes as they are falling halfway down the screen, not when they hit the red bar at the bottom. It is a lot of information to process after all.
Go Beyond!! is a piece of cake to Normal Clear, Hard Clear is another story haha. Well I can't really judge since I clear a dozen of 12s, the easiest ones :P
With its steep learning curve and loads of sophisticated features, I'd describe iidx as a prestige-class rhythm game compared to others.
And now there's osu...
DDR is a close second to beatmania IIDX, but it was ruined by Poor music choices
*Cough*DDR 2010*Cough*
***** I do know about arcades, I just don't go to them all the time because I got a computer.
The normal Osu is so garbage compared to the other modes it has in terms of difficulty and song maps people make. Osumania and even the Taiko one are a lot better. Can't comment on catch the beat since that's more of an arcade game with music than a rhythm game IMO.
I would have to say that pop'n music comes in second. You'd need to be a god tier player to be good at pop'n music. Not just anyone is going to be able to clear level 46-50 charts.
When Mei "interrupted the video" and came on I think I fanboy'd a little. It's like....screw your list. Prepare to be swallowed by darkness.
YOU ARE NOW ENTERING COMPLETELY DARKNESS
+MaplestoryMr PLAYING TO DIE
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Hey haru we exhc’d the 10th hardest song in beatmania iidx
*laughs in 'ez2ac' because with 13 buttons (10k mode) to press on hitting notes*
@komo btw, I just discovered that there is a gameplay of 18 keys in 'EZ2AC' (or what is called a '16k' gameplay). At that point, I'm slowly dying in laughter. 🤣💀
I love how the video started with one of my favorite most memorable songs. Takes me back to childhood.
Good list! I haven't kept up with IIDX in ages, but it's nice to see that Mei is still considered one of the hardest, because that song is just goddamn ridiculous.
And I thought Parappa The Rapper was hard
Bruh
the funny part is this video was already mostly wrong even in 2012 lol
Skill issue
Also 3 years...
Skill issue
Im makin ytps
I'm not surprised at Beach Side Bunny being second and Mei being first LOL. I see loads of people struggle with Beach Side Bunny during the KAC 2013 IIDX tournament.
I'm even more impressed by the video editing actually lol
MDKAI I’m even more impressed that this comment hasn’t being replied in 5 years!!
@@electriczap9615 I know right?
Yeah, this kind of edit makes me inspired actually
Very cool video with nice effects and editing! I loved the bad maniacs and mei intros haha. Good demonstration of the impossible 12s.
How could a human be able to play things like this succesful?
LENNOZ rare comment
LENNOZ By sacrificing their wallet to practice as many times as they want
its funny meme man guys upvote this comment to make him be funny comment man
Dude I am world Champion. I can't even do it Perfect Everytime only one out of 10 times I c.an
You aren't the world champion.
you did a great job editing this. awesome list!
This game is to other rhythm games as the Salty Spitoon is to Weenie Hut Jr.
Well, although I am a total noob in IIDX (Lvl 7 :D), I really enjoy the video and the presentation.
I'd love to see an update if some newer Songs challenged the top 10 in the meantime. Between Lincle and Pendual there must be new challenges after all.
Yeah, I'm stuck on 8s and 9s. It's one hell of a hard game
+Jack Hadaki Stuck on 11s for a long time. 1,5 years to be exact, yet still try to play 12s and I was even able to A 2 or 3 12s xD.
btw,I think that 3y3s deserves a much higher rank on the list because scratching while having this intense chart in an art of its own.
+Areku al-Khemi You guys are all softcore noobs. I'm still playing 4s and 5s.
Yup!!! you must to be a 25 arm octopus to beat the those japanese games in 2003.
bruh,that's disgusting!
@YouAreTrash oh?
Yep, though this game gives a solid F-U to those that try to 1 hand this game. In the Tatsujin movie mode on 6th style, Lisu, renouned 1 handed player at the time, has to resort to 2 hands at the buildup to the climax of V on another, and this was way back in 5TH STYLE (it's a straight 2-4 measure of a 1-3-5-7 2-4-6 drum roll)
The scratches in #2 make it much more difficult than it looks (especially since some of those scratches are 24ths), as many of those key patterns have to practically be done by one hand.
As for Scorpion Fire, I can see why it isn't on this, as most of the song isn't that hard; only the ending is really that notable.
Mei : i am the hardest chart of beatmaniaIIDX history
Chrono Diver Pendulum: hold my BeatmaniaIIDX controller
Verflucht (Leggendaria): you're totally cute
Eh, I believe Mei is still the hardest,
the BPM change is what the charts makes it totally insane
@@Pokaroquai mei stopped being the hardest years ago, but chrono diver pendulum isnt either.
This is so my favorite Beatmania video.
I've lost count how many times I've watched it :D
Yea that variance judge timing on old 5key beatmanias were quite annoying more often than not.
But it gave birth to a hilarious homage which is Gambol [a]
Ironically, a good majority of the songs in this list you'll see in the Kaiden course
aka Perditus/Nageki no Ki, Beach Side Bunny, Himiko, and Mei
Contents:
bad maniacs(beatmania IIDX 17 SIRIUS)
u*taka got 3,270 (all-time national top score)...lol
quell ～the seventh slave～
Two SPA full combo players and one DPA full combo players.
Nageki no Ki(beatmania IIDX 13 DistorteD)
DOLCE has SPA full combo and ereter DPA full combo…crazy lol
Go Beyond!!(beatmania IIDX 16 EMPRESS)
DOLCE has 2283 (MAX-49)
He's so crazy lol.
3y3s(IIDX EMPRESS)
quasar was full combo with HAZARD option (if it misses, it FAILED immediately) lol
Almagest(IIDX SIRIUS)
DOLCE reaches 3179 (MAX-79)
perditus†paradisus(IIDX Resort Anthem)
DOLCE reaches 3921 (MAX-209)
Himiko(IIDX EMPRESS)
u*taka achieves 4107 (MAX-131, tops all time in the country)
Syakunetsu-Beach-Side-Bunny
(IIDX Resort Anthem)
DOLCE reach 3333 and trended on Twitter lol(I hear it's also known as the "Monster Dishwasher" because of its ability to turn the scratch.)
Mei(IIDX HAPPY SKY)
Ragukunsan achieved full combo, and u*taka reached 3916.
Amazing the different perspective you get seeing some of these songs on a different game style.
I'm a DDR player so I've played Mei on a dance pad multiple times, but watching Mei [A] just...oh my God, love it.
Every time I see himiko it's so much worse than I remembered
Add to this list: perditus+paradisus, DIAVOLO, Tenkuu no Yoake and Thor's Hammer.
But we will never forget Mei...
There was always one mod that I wanted since the 5 key beatmania days...Auto Key mode, where you have to only scratch the turntable...though it still won't make the Beach Side bunny remix any easier
it never cease to blow my mind how theres some cats out there that can clear [another]
What makes these tracks harder is when you find out that some of them can use 2 controllers
Cealix every chart has a doubles equivalent as far as I’m aware
I wonder why he didn't choose PARADISE LOST into TOP 10 lists.
PL is much harder than Bad Maniacs and quell.
I guess the author completely forget about it XD
It's crazy how these songs are all bangers.... But they're hard AF lol.
This is the tenth time I watch this video
This is such a classic video, please make one as of sinobuz!
Whoever could actually do this HAS to be some kind of monster. O_O
What sucks about #2 is that since one hand has to be occupied for the whole time on just the turntable action, the other hand has to do all of the work for the 7 keys. It is so hard to work all 7 keys with one hand. It could come easy for some, but definitely not me. You could try to transfer some of that weight over by working the edge 2 keys with your turntable hand, but then you'll just get confused.
I wonder if DEATH†ZIGOQ ～怒りの高速爆走野郎～from IIDX 25 Cannon Ballers would make it on the list if this video got updated.
its only hc A+ tier, theres plenty of 12s harder than it
Hope that you can update it with some new songs that are more difficult than some of these in the video :D (like Plan 8)
I wish there was an update for this, Mare Nectaris would EASILY be number 1, not to mention the Legendaria charts being stupid too.
Dont forget x-den.
Today, there are many changes about 'Hardest' songs in IIDX. Bad maniacs, quell, Nageki no ki, Almagest are no longer in hardest. Instead, there are many candidates such as 'Elemental Creation', 'PENDULEMs', 'Confiserie' and so on.
+Horie what about Evans, FLOWER, JOMANDA, anisakis somatic mutation type forza?
+moviedude XD About Single, Another pattern? well.. First of all, FLOWER has high density in the latter part. so it is hard among the level 11. and Anisakis has hard scratch checks in last part. so it might be difficult for low-11 level runners. but both of songs are not hardest in 11 levels
+moviedude XD Evans has severe scratch checks in entire pattern. so if you are poor at handling this kind of pattern, you must feel this song is very hard.
+moviedude XD JOMANDA has weird speed-changing in middle of pattern. this section is not a problem with easy, normal gauge. but it is very difficult with hard, ex-hard gauge. Also JOMANDA has high density in latter pattern. so it is tough pattern with easy, normal gauge too
+moviedude XD in addition, there are solutions about speed-changing pattern in JOMANDA. ( textage.cc/score/20/jomanda.html?1AC00=15 ) as you can see, speed is reduced in 34. so solutions are
1. reduce hi-speed 0.5( Just push start butten and press white butten once quickly. ) in there before changing.
2. remove sudden+ ( Just press start butten 4 times, but if you don't use sudden+, this solution is useless. ) in there before changing
3. Just handle it
4. Use solutiin 1 in 18 ( I used it to ex-hard clear, but this solution requires high low-speed handling skill or use a cap has brim. like baseball cap. )
I want list of hardest IIDX songs as copula.
Check it on iidx12.tk
Nice video, hardest crap I can do is easy 11 anothers (that's like 2 for me :)
Go Beyond is such an awesome song, wish I could pass the another lol.
Think I'll go play it right now on Hyper!
6:43 Valkyrie dimension sounds
Meanwhile in 2019
Basically handful of CB 12s, X-den compilation, and mare nectaris
10:20 i wish i could do this but i don't have a beatmania cabinet anywhere remotely near me :(
Thanks Zach :)
Do you happen to know what framerate the program is internally limited to as well?
no way, dude; mei is by far the hardest song. back when I last played (Gold) i could AAA/hard clear anything (AAAd golden cross, AA [the song not the grade], Quell and all the 12s on 6th-Gold except maybe piano concerto #1 and nageki no ki) but i never once cleared mei. it is nonstop fingerslaughter. it will probably never be equalled in future releases.
The scratches in beach side bunny r no joke. i tried to do it with my friend playing the 7 keys and i failed instantly at the rapid part. bad maniacs should move forward and perditus should move behind. but i still agrees with this list in the overall
Mare Nectaris & X-DEN : "Hello boys!"
long train running: u guys r cute
@@SuwakoFan verflucht (leggendaria): you're totally cute too
it is an old video now. plan 8, elemental creation, confiserie, timepiece phase2 (cn), these three songs are harder than Almagest
11:08~ 11:14 Hardest part in beatmania
I know this was back in 2012, but there were black another by then, unless this is limited to AC charts only. there are many black anothers that are harder than these.
Go Berzerk A14 is the hardest song in Beatmania... IIDX has some terrible A14 charts which weren't meant to be played one-player [beatmania IIDX 11 IIDXRED CS] Scott Brown - Go Berzerk [DP ANOTHER]
Completely darkness....
REWIND!
In addition, It is important to think about 'Gauge type' (Easy, Normal, Hard, EX-Hard). it means, some gauge type make hardest songs much easier we though. For example, Mei becomes easier a lot in Easy, Normal gauge ( in Hard or EX-Hard, it becomes damn hard ).
I remember my brothers playing this, it was impossible for me
skill issue
@@Puffle573 bro 💀
That was EPIC!!
Despite having less notes than Himiko, perditus or Tenkuu no Yoake, Mei is definitely THE hardest 12 barring Mendes [K].
Nobody Disagrees; 冥 is the hardest song in IIDX history... EVER!
(Heard nobody has made full-combo in ANOTHER, ARCADE!)
Haven't played enough to really judge this list, but it was fun to watch anyway.
It's kind of hard to gauge what songs are the MOST difficult. Players are skilled in a variety of different areas so there are alot of songs which could easily make this list depending on peoples opinions. Mei is probably the hardest to hard clear but in terms of clearing, it's easier than nageki. Alternatively Red, Balck or snakestick could be put here i people such at scratching. It's really impossible to nominate 10 absolute winners
Mare Nectaris : *HI*
The last song is, as TV Tropes would put it, audio erotica.
Mei was kind of obviously number 1.
Pretty well-made video :)
What was the song that played and got cut off by Mei?
Did you not watch the video - it says 'until Resort Anthem'. Cuvelia, Diavolo, Yaksha and Black are all Lincle. Jeez.
they're all same to me.....I think I better to close my eyes to protect them
You should also know every song in video has Fullcombo record
Nageki No Ki gives me fucking nightmares...
i miss the days of 9th style when one or eight was the hardest song
This movie is old, so it is different from now and some people succeeded these songs in this video full-combo. however, 冥 is still the most difficult song in ⅱdx.
Inori is ridiculously hard cuz of the speed up in the middle. Conjoining wwith scratching, you'll get thrown off.
Debatable or not, Mei is effing classic.
this guy does not tell you how hard theses songs are when you can get the look of it already
the hell am i saying
the red notes on the chart. If you play this game you'll know that scratching the turntable and hitting buttons on the same measure back to back at that speed is pretty fucking ridiculous . Especially hearing that the turntables in the arcade are harder to spin compared to the iidx ps2 controller.
My mate made a step chart in DDR for bad maniacs and GOOD GOD it’s painful
Plan 8 > Shakunetsu > everything else on both Clear/HC
/end
FC difficulty =/= chart difficulty, usually
Mei is way down the list when it's about Normal Clear (around G59/YAKSHA tier)
Hey Darqs, can you try reviving the ITG scene again? Its getting boring playing alone, i've been moving to IIDX while waiting for you to come back :c
Man with Plan 8, Confiserie, Elemental Creation and Timepiece phase II it's even harder to make up a top 10. I bet tricoro's true final boss will be a bitch too
Mei is still probably the hardest when it comes to HARD CLEAR / EXH
I agree in most of the songs, but not in the order, i should put perditus paradisus lower on the top... maybe even at 10th place... also beach side bunny should be lower too... aside from that, good top ten... :3
Ignacio Conde Beach Side Bunny deserves top 2, since the scratches on that song while you play are absolute bonkers.
No, Bad Maniacs is from beatmania IIDX 17 Sirius
2:37 *clap clap clap* *dies*
2:37
How do you even see the button to press when the light from the button goes into the tracks?
If you play these games long enough and get used to their timing, you (have to) read the notes as they are falling halfway down the screen, not when they hit the red bar at the bottom. It is a lot of information to process after all.
good point! I always sucked at these games XD
*cries in a dark corner*
That "top 10" is only based for single player charts, that's why there's no gobble [14k].
This is bonkers...
1st IIDX video I ever watched!
Nevermind - I can set it to whatever I like ^^
What about Stop Violence! by Herbie Hammock & His band ? That has rather strict timing
and to our left we will see osu!mania on steroids
otherway around
"and to our right, we have beatmania iidx for wusses"
Weee for being able to beat all of 2 songs on this list -_-
The notes you play not by pressing buttons, but scratching the turntable back and forth. They are represented as red notes in the game.
interesting! I would have thrown MENDES' Kuro Another into at least like #3, just from note density alone
I was hoping to see Bitter Chocolate striker at 10-th place...
Go Beyond!! is a piece of cake to Normal Clear, Hard Clear is another story haha.
Well I can't really judge since I clear a dozen of 12s, the easiest ones :P
Oops...perditus+paradisus already was on the list...I skipped all the way to Mei...
So advanced!
What the-... How-... Where did you get the BMSes for actual IIDX games. I've looked and I can't find them
I know where :)
bms.bemaniso.ws
Here yah go, IIDX 11 RED-IIDX 21 SPADA
L.E.D-G - ELECTRIC MASSIVE DIVER
this is the hardest
@kpcenti Ever played nine seconds (BM 3rd MIX)? That timing's just STUPID!
Second that, also, what about Pluto, Gigadelic, and Erasermotor Phantom. Anyway, not a bad list of hard songs IMO...