Hi Mark, it's always a fun time (LOL) figuring out how an old piece of equipment comes apart. It's also a learning experience in how a piece of equipment was engineered to function.
This is a cool little lathe although I'm not sure how much I'll use it. The turret will useful however. I'll likely keep it for drilling and tapping a lot of parts. So what about the VFD? 110V single to 220V 3-ph.
Hardinge sure had some impressive and interesting engineering going on. Mark if you are not familiar with Tony's lathe Archive UK they have a good amount of information on the early Cataract lathes. They even show a end view of your bed style comparing it to the standard bed. Looking forward to the next video.
I have a very similar lathe made by the Moseley Lathe Company. Somewhat fancier looking locking knob under the bed and the bed is solid cast iron, no slot running the length in back, but otherwise very similar. I'll be watching with alot of interest since I'm hoping to have time to get it set up sometime relatively soon.
@@WinkysWorkshop Most of what I've found for the Moseley lathes have been the single footed watch lathes. This one is a larger 2 footed lathe, bed length (end to end) is 36", between centers probably half of that. Got the flat belt pulleys (and belt) and a jack shaft set that takes the flat belt and has a normal V-belt grafted on to convert it to run on a modern motor. Just need to get around to building a base and setting it up.
Another interesting video. I hope Winky took a lot of photos during disassembly. I’d have a hard time getting that little jewel back together without them.
I had a hard time getting started on this lathe because I don't really need it but now that I've started it I'm eager to see it complete. It has my interest now!
Thanks Tim, I had a hard time getting started on this project because I didn't really need it. However, now that I've started I'm getting excited! It's going to be a nice little lathe.
My Hardinge is a later model and has a taper turning attachment on the rear slot, not sure what yours was designed for. Considering it's vintage it was well designed with systems to keep the spindle to high tolerance of concentricity. I love the collet system and chuck mount taper, so quick to change. Min is on a VFD and modern motor , I'm no purist. I will be following this build with great interest 👍.
This lathe is strange... in some ways very solid and well made but the tail stock is incredibly wimpy (the small one). Very well made headstock and bearings!
the 2 bolt holes above the hardinge badge is where the threading attachment fits, or it can take a small tray, depends on which attachments the oriiginal owner purchases at the time
Hi i have the same lathe with many attachments, a turret, Auto feed for threads, indexing plates, tail stock and many gears and fittings. Im going to do a restoration video on my channel thats why im watching your videos, im a complete novice , I look forward to learning from your knowledge.
Send me an email at winkysworkshop@GMX.com. I'm not sure what parts I might need when I get into the cross slide but I'll let you know if I don't need it.
It will be interesting to see what you have when you get it restored. Do you have a picture of how it should look when it is back to original? Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Usually on Facebook Marketplace. This lathe advertised locally here in KY with the drill press I also restored. Usually I buy from individuals but in this case I bought from a company that buys the stock or machines from companies that are going out of business. It seems like the best area to buy is in the states surrounding the Great Lakes. The Wells Index mill I bought was in IL. and about a 300 mile drive.
Definitely! It is the only VFD I have found that will convert 110v single ph to 220v 3-ph. Most VFD's have an input voltage of 220. For me this is a huge advantage. No need to run a 220 circuit. I only have 3 circuits left in my service box but. Fractional HP motors really don't need 220v anyway.
@@WinkysWorkshop voltage concerns. I was thinking about brand reliability. I have a mill, lathe, and car hoist that run on 3 phase. I'm currently running a self made converter using a large 3 phase motor. The 3rd leg isn't a true full AC wave, but it's enough to start another 3 phase motor. Don't want to have buyers remorse on buying junk on VFDs.
Thanks for reminding me. I meant to post that in the description and forgot. In my opinion the 110V to 220V VFD is a game changer. Running most my machines on 220 would require a lot of re-wiring and twice as many circuits. Plus there is no real advantage to running a fractional HP motor on 220v. Link: amzn.to/3NW2XiX
Just posted the link to the VFD in the description - thanks.
Hi Mark, it's always a fun time (LOL) figuring out how an old piece of equipment comes apart. It's also a learning experience in how a piece of equipment was engineered to function.
You got that right! It's a good learning experience!
Looks good so far Winky. Looking forward to all the other episodes. Regards from Australia
It's an interesting lathe... very strong in some ways but not in others.
Another enjoyable weekends in store. Thanks Winky. Don
This is a cool little lathe although I'm not sure how much I'll use it. The turret will useful however. I'll likely keep it for drilling and tapping a lot of parts. So what about the VFD? 110V single to 220V 3-ph.
Hardinge sure had some impressive and interesting engineering going on. Mark if you are not familiar with Tony's lathe Archive UK they have a good amount of information on the early Cataract lathes. They even show a end view of your bed style comparing it to the standard bed. Looking forward to the next video.
I need to spend some time on this web site. Yes this is an interesting design for sure.
I have a very similar lathe made by the Moseley Lathe Company. Somewhat fancier looking locking knob under the bed and the bed is solid cast iron, no slot running the length in back, but otherwise very similar. I'll be watching with alot of interest since I'm hoping to have time to get it set up sometime relatively soon.
I love theses old machines. I saw a Mosely watch lathe a while back.
@@WinkysWorkshop Most of what I've found for the Moseley lathes have been the single footed watch lathes. This one is a larger 2 footed lathe, bed length (end to end) is 36", between centers probably half of that. Got the flat belt pulleys (and belt) and a jack shaft set that takes the flat belt and has a normal V-belt grafted on to convert it to run on a modern motor. Just need to get around to building a base and setting it up.
@@jonshank9572 I'll have some kind of setup like this also... the details are not all worked out yet but it will be an under drive.
Another interesting video. I hope Winky took a lot of photos during disassembly. I’d have a hard time getting that little jewel back together without them.
Thanks! I got video :o) Haha... its not too bad. My Wells index mill was much worse.
Nice one Mark, I restored a similar lathe and put a VFD and powered the lead screw with a wind screen wiper motor 🤗👍
This one doesn't even have a lead screw. I think I'll used the turret function more than anything.
That's a qute little lathe. A very nice project. Have fun with it :)
Thanks 👍 I need to do some research on this lathe!
Very interested in this project--I have an old Ames lathe of similar design I've been meaning to "get around to fixing." Thanks for sharing.
I had a hard time getting started on this lathe because I don't really need it but now that I've started it I'm eager to see it complete. It has my interest now!
Great project, Winky! Looking forward to the upcoming parts!
Thanks Tim, I had a hard time getting started on this project because I didn't really need it. However, now that I've started I'm getting excited! It's going to be a nice little lathe.
My Hardinge is a later model and has a taper turning attachment on the rear slot, not sure what yours was designed for. Considering it's vintage it was well designed with systems to keep the spindle to high tolerance of concentricity. I love the collet system and chuck mount taper, so quick to change. Min is on a VFD and modern motor , I'm no purist. I will be following this build with great interest 👍.
This lathe is strange... in some ways very solid and well made but the tail stock is incredibly wimpy (the small one). Very well made headstock and bearings!
@@WinkysWorkshop mine is the early HLV narrow bed. The later wide bed has got a bit of a cult following , and price, as I'm sure you are aware.
@@chrislee7817 This lathe is all new to me. I need to do some investigating to know what I have.
After the big bench drill press, I was looking forward to this. Glad to see it under way.
Thanks for you patience :o)
the 2 bolt holes above the hardinge badge is where the threading attachment fits, or it can take a small tray, depends on which attachments the oriiginal owner purchases at the time
Mine has the ways in the back but no bolt holes.
Very cool little machine. I'm looking forward to the video.
It is interesting for sure.
Hi i have the same lathe with many attachments, a turret, Auto feed for threads, indexing plates, tail stock and many gears and fittings.
Im going to do a restoration video on my channel thats why im watching your videos, im a complete novice ,
I look forward to learning from your knowledge.
Be sure and send me a link when you finish your video!
I just picked up a Cataract 7” lathe and am very interested in the extra cross slide you have. Can’t wait to see it done!
Send me an email at winkysworkshop@GMX.com. I'm not sure what parts I might need when I get into the cross slide but I'll let you know if I don't need it.
It will be interesting to see what you have when you get it restored. Do you have a picture of how it should look when it is back to original? Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
I need to do more digging. I've found similar lathes but not the same.
Absolutely brilliant video
Wow, thank you!
With that quick release collet tube and the turret, that will be a cool little lathe for making multiple parts Winky.
I agree. Hopefully I can figure out the turret.
I will watch your next videos on this machine. I wonder how it will look.
I'm wondering how well it will work... Thanks for watching
Another great video!
Thanks again!
You might have said, but where do you find your stuff to rebuild, the mill, lathes....
Usually on Facebook Marketplace. This lathe advertised locally here in KY with the drill press I also restored. Usually I buy from individuals but in this case I bought from a company that buys the stock or machines from companies that are going out of business. It seems like the best area to buy is in the states surrounding the Great Lakes. The Wells Index mill I bought was in IL. and about a 300 mile drive.
Nice job!
Any particular reason you chose that brand of VFD?
Definitely! It is the only VFD I have found that will convert 110v single ph to 220v 3-ph. Most VFD's have an input voltage of 220. For me this is a huge advantage. No need to run a 220 circuit. I only have 3 circuits left in my service box but. Fractional HP motors really don't need 220v anyway.
@@WinkysWorkshop voltage concerns. I was thinking about brand reliability. I have a mill, lathe, and car hoist that run on 3 phase. I'm currently running a self made converter using a large 3 phase motor. The 3rd leg isn't a true full AC wave, but it's enough to start another 3 phase motor.
Don't want to have buyers remorse on buying junk on VFDs.
Nice project. Do you have plans for this when you are done?
Mosty for drilling I think. It will be interesting to see how much it will do. It's much smaller than any lathe I have had in the past.
Hey Mark, do you have any idea why it's called a Cataract?
No but that is a very good question. I have a lot to learn.
Cataract also means "cascade" or "waterfall", not just the medical use
@@tmenyc Hello Tim, thanks, I didn't know that.
Hello, Would you share a link to the VFD you have please? Regards, Denis
Thanks for reminding me. I meant to post that in the description and forgot. In my opinion the 110V to 220V VFD is a game changer. Running most my machines on 220 would require a lot of re-wiring and twice as many circuits. Plus there is no real advantage to running a fractional HP motor on 220v. Link: amzn.to/3NW2XiX
Thank you very much for the information. I agree thst running on 110V is much simpler when possible. Have a great day, Denis
thanks
You're welcome! You get the belt yet?
@@WinkysWorkshop Not yet. But I'm not in a hurry. Thanks
@@terrycannon570 should be there soon.
I want to pull the spindle out of my 9" SB to use a continuous serpentine belt.
I can make you a belt if you want.
@@WinkysWorkshop very nice offer! I'll keep that in mind.
Bonito proyecto, seguro que tendrá su función y lugar en el taller.
Hopefully you are right!