Why The Bambu Lab X1 Carbon is a PhD Master Class in 3D Printer Design

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  • Let's disassemble the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon and see what it is really made of (after doing some test prints of course).
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    0:00: 🖨️ The importance of diversity in 3D printer design and the impact of winning models on the industry.
    5:44: ⚙️ In-depth discussion on hinge options for glass door opening in 3D printer design.
    11:33: 🖨️ Insight into the design of the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon 3D printer, including the coreXY movement system, belt configuration, and cable chain.
    17:04: ⚙️ Analysis of the 3D printer design, including the tensioner, belt, and stepper motors.
    23:05: ⚙️ Detailed explanation of the unique design features of the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon 3D printer, including its proprietary parts and filament handling mechanism.
    28:36: 🔄 Violation of the spirit of Open Source by not sharing code, but understandable due to fear of copycats in China.
    34:20: 🖨️ Challenges with print error, auto calibration, and slicer in Bambu Lab X1 Carbon 3D printer.
    40:28: ⚙️ Challenges with purging different filaments at specific temperatures manually and suggestions for improvement.
    46:13: ⚙️ Revolution in 3D printer design: comparison of print quality and ease of use between two printers, showcasing progress over the years.
    51:48: 🖨️ In-depth review of the impressive 3D printer design, focusing on electronics, sealing, and functionality.
    57:38: ⚙️ Concerns about wear on brass bushings due to off-center loads and sliding belts in the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon 3D printer.
    1:03:16: 🖨️ Insight into the design and components of the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon 3D printer.
    1:09:07: 🖨️ Concerns about potential CCP influence on Bambu Lab X1 Carbon 3D printer design and functionality.

ความคิดเห็น • 747

  • @charlesdidio3682
    @charlesdidio3682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I ordered mine on 2/2/23, UPS says I get it on 2/9/23 -- one week.

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Apparently I was misinformed. Thank you for the correction. Perhaps the 3 week delay only applies to the P1P.

    • @softgrapes
      @softgrapes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. I ordered mine 2/6 and it shipped today 2/9, should be here on the 14th.
      If you order without the AMS it’s a different story. They have those listed as preorders with a 2 week lead time.

    • @KernelFault
      @KernelFault 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Similar for me. Ordered 2/2 to be delivered 2/10.

    • @lamehunter
      @lamehunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well I ordered mine 15.12.2022 and got it 6.02.2023 for fuck sake xD

    • @AA-xu4vd
      @AA-xu4vd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DesignPrototypeTest I ordered a P1P at the end of January and it arrived 5 days later

  • @richard7crowley
    @richard7crowley ปีที่แล้ว +62

    1:01:26 That green component with the two copper windings is not a transformer. It is a "common-mode choke" which is used to filter noise from the printer electronics from going back down the power cord and "transmitting" through your house. It is yet another sign of a high-quality design and implementation.

    • @Rokmononov
      @Rokmononov ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That the choke exists isn't a sign of high quality design, and especially of high quality implementation. That would be determined by the actual performance. Limiting conducted emissions is a legal requirement to sell a product in most countries.
      That's not to say it's a bad design. It may well be great. I love my X1C dearly.
      SO MUCH supposed "hardcore engineering analysis" of products like this on the internet does this though, and it's getting tiresome. WOW they have *legally mandated component!* It's amazing space age design! GOSH even NASA can't design anything this well! How well does it work? I have no idea haha, but look at it!
      Would be good to get a real engineer with actual experience to give their hottakes once in a while. And even they do it.

    • @kelvinchow3663
      @kelvinchow3663 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rokmononov I think noise filtering may be critical for some sensing

  • @Clickbaiters
    @Clickbaiters ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I recently purchased the new lower priced $600 Bambu P1P and it arrived in two days. I'm absolutely blown away by it and it's not even the flagship model. Never again, and I mean NEVER can I go back to super low budget printers. The P1P itself is the budget version for Bambu and even then, it blows away anything priced under it and yes, in my opinion, it's better than the Prusa MK3 and MK4. It's pre-built and you'll set it up and print a benchy with 40 minutes of unboxing it. I enjoy 3D printing again❤❤❤

  • @caseyodonnell6621
    @caseyodonnell6621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    New to the 3D printing. Not really wanting a new hobby, or at least not wanting to be an enthusiast tweaking every setting and modding my printer. I want the tool to print things I need around the house for which there are no off the shelf solutions that are a true fit. This is one of the most objective and informative reviews I've seen of this printer and really helps set my expectations for this tool. Thank you so much for putting so much time and attention into this video!

    • @MrCheddah13
      @MrCheddah13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Im in the exact same boat as you are! I tried to go the starter printer route with a creality ender 3 and I ended spending more time fixing and adjusting the machine than I did using it. It ended up sitting there doing nothing for months on end. Im purchasing this printer soon and I hope you have a flawless time with it as well.

  • @ashleys3dprintshop
    @ashleys3dprintshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great video with some minor errors but I think others have addressed it.
    This has been one of the most in depth videos I have seen so "geek up" the great work.
    I have been printing on the X1CC since Aug of 2022 and getting close to 2k hours and this printer is by far the best printer I have used.
    Ender 3- retired
    Prusa mk3s+ -$$$ Regrets and retired
    Ankermake m5(still sitting in sealed box since Dec 2022)
    X1CC- my go too.

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one ปีที่แล้ว

      While the two printers I had previously (a Sidewinder X1 and a CR10-version) are a lot lower priced than the X1CC obviously is.. I'm not looking back at all. Never printed as much as I have with the X1CC

    • @andrewalexander7363
      @andrewalexander7363 ปีที่แล้ว

      The M5 is worth cracking open for single color prints.

  • @Lemonade-lf2pc
    @Lemonade-lf2pc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    dude watching your video actually reveals so much insight to not only whats truly impressive but also how the overall trajectories of design solutions and business intertwine.

  • @drSpecs1
    @drSpecs1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    bro, a prusa fan said they wish my house would burn down after i posted a joke about prusa xl clones.You're the goat keep the content up

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They are insane, aren't they? Who could have ever imagined that what is essentially a DIY robotics company would have soccer hooligans supporting it. There's no logic with them. They just want to be part of a winning team. They say a bunch of words that sound logical but they're a cheat. They've already come to the conclusion that Prusa is a winner. So when they talk about the technical issues they aren't looking for truth. They are just trying to make Prusa win. They will fight against all evidence to the contrary. No matter how truthful.

    • @jstro-hobbytech
      @jstro-hobbytech ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Design Prototype Test it's like video game console fan fanboyism only worse.

    • @apo617
      @apo617 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

    • @Batchat2352
      @Batchat2352 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DesignPrototypeTest they are many clowns who lickboot brands. I personally didnt get the bambu because i hate the idea of my data being harvested by my printer and being completely closed. So went the q1 pri and sv08 route. I own my stuff not someone else. But that is hard to understand by many people. Main reason people hate eco systems of apple. How their macbooks are designed to fail for now a decade. Heck bambu can one day decide that ur printer will only work if you use their filament with their ID. You do not own the printer. The printer owns you. This is a big debate similar to owning what you buy online you dont actually own. Bambu also comes from DJI, who the government has banned for security breaches and data miss use.. they store pretty much everything you send to the prit er from the cloud, prusa also do but u can turn all of that off. Not on the bambu.

  • @chrisbibb
    @chrisbibb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I'm really glad you made a deep dive in to this printer. I've watched loads of reviews of the dev kits but most just talk about the features and print benchies, where as you critically review the mechanical design and components and give honest feedback. It's sad that the majority of 3D printing channels end up being super positive, gloss over the negatives and then give sales pitches, whereas you point out the negatives as well which are what owners really want to know and need to be aware of

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thank you for the kind comment. It feels good to be recognized. I appreciate you too.

    • @retromodernart4426
      @retromodernart4426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DesignPrototypeTest Great detailed on-point review! Also, your comments and opinions are valuable and valued.
      The power supply board you asked about is almost certainly a SEPIC design, very nice actually.
      Thanks for your efforts and outspoken-ness!

    • @Skullyweb
      @Skullyweb ปีที่แล้ว

      sELF LUBRICATING BUSHINGS ARE LIKE THAT ARE USED IN INJECTION MOLDING ALL THE TIME

    • @timothymusson5040
      @timothymusson5040 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!

  • @cjchen617
    @cjchen617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is a great video.
    Rarely do I see such a solid review from a mechanical design, manufacturing and engineering perspective.
    We need more high guality content like this on youtube, not just some "copy-paste" type unboxing video.
    By the way, glad to see someone talking about concerns about Chinese tech companies, its not politics but information security, everyone should pay more attention to it.

  • @3DKreateFPV
    @3DKreateFPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Credit where credit is due, the first implementation for a single nozzle multi color/material printer with a toolhead filament cutter, is from the SMuFF project. It truly is the best method for adding reliability to filament switching type multi color/material printing. Love the breakdown. Keep up the good work man.

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was wondering about this! I even asked on Twitter if anyone knew of prior art for that functionality. Do you have a link? I just want looking on Google and couldn't find anything.

    • @3DKreateFPV
      @3DKreateFPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Soo, turns out that you can't add links to comments. If you type in "the smuff google sites" into a browser, it should be the first link that comes up.

    • @3DKreateFPV
      @3DKreateFPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here's a link to a video from the creator of the smuff. If it works the link to the site is in the bottom of the description, th-cam.com/video/9xR9MkAh_Ww/w-d-xo.html

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      FANTASTIC! Thank you! Sorry about the link restriction. I forgot about that.

    • @enosunim
      @enosunim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can just post video code 9xR9MkAh_Ww and youtube will let it pass. Or.. Use Base64 = )
      aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmFzZTY0ZGVjb2RlLm9yZy8=

  • @VastCNC
    @VastCNC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    As much as I’ve been annoyed by some of the content on your channel, this is what I stayed subscribed for. Bar none, the best review of this printer I’ve ever seen. The insights you have shared, and the depths that you’ve reached, are exactly what I’d like to see in a review. Thank you.

    • @jamesswart1061
      @jamesswart1061 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking the same thing and wondering if there were any comments about it. "Glass is half full" is definitely the method of presentation here and the first time I've seen someone spend over an hour doing it. I found myself being agitated by that and I had to watch the video over the course of a few days to keep myself from feeling like I was listening to my mother-in-law talk about the world. However, I couldn't help but appreciate the level of detail and knowledge the presenter has about this printer. I learned quite a lot of things I did not in any other review. I can't believe I'm saying this but I will probably hit that like and subscribe button for future content.

    • @melgross
      @melgross ปีที่แล้ว

      He overthinks things. It’s as though he’s looking for things to criticize as well as praise. The 50c temp where the electronics is, is an example. 50c is a pretty much standard temp for electronics and shouldn’t prove a problem.

  • @bhaelhalelthebastard6014
    @bhaelhalelthebastard6014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    These videos right here are why I follow you man. Absolutely phenomenal review and deep dive.

  • @marc.levinson
    @marc.levinson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for another super detailed look and thoughtful commmentary. It's nice to be able to get this close without actually buying one.

  • @cataelectron
    @cataelectron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Best review of this printer I saw on YT! You touched a lot of issues the paid zombie reviewers did not! Keep up the good work!

  • @benjohnson4656
    @benjohnson4656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Really glad to see this video pop up... Finally an honest, in depth review and analysis. I've been blown away since early December with mine and while acknowledging some downsides it's still the best innovation by a mile

  • @tom_anderson
    @tom_anderson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a software developer I am loving your commentary on what is open source vs what is co-opted from open source, and what you have to make a cloud account for. I doubt that everyone else understands or cares about what it is that you are saying here, but they should,

  • @levianhawk3109
    @levianhawk3109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best test I've seen so far. My greatest respect for that. Nicely explained, a deeper look into the machine and very factual. Many complaints about the printer come from the fact that it's not that easy to repair. And I think that's where the problem lies. This printer is for the end customer market and end customers do not want to repair anything themselves, they want it to work. And based on that and what I've seen so far, Bambulabs has done a good job.

  • @CNCBuddy
    @CNCBuddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done. One of my favorite videos. Owning one of these the biggest changes I hope they iterate: 1) Cut the startup time when you are doing back to back prints (the 8 minutes of overhead even when you uncheck the options kills me). 2) Seal off the electronics from the bed and put a heater inside, 110 degree chamber would be very nice for no ABS warp. 3) The door, it is an accident waiting to happen. You managed to pick up these same points. Fun watching someone else take the risk of partially dismantling it.

  • @cdsmakestuff
    @cdsmakestuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    FYI... you can save to an SD-Card from the slicer... With the latest software update you can also save files to the SD-Card while in the printer. There is also a local network functionality.

    • @lasermike2147
      @lasermike2147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Came here to say this, you now have three options. Print goes through the cloud as before, Send goes through the cloud and is saved to the SD, Export is saved as a 3mf file to a local device without going through the cloud. Click the arrow next to print plate to see these options.

    • @jamesharris9894
      @jamesharris9894 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mine will not save to sd card while In printer I can send 1 file there but if send second one deletes first and after print it's gone also

    • @johannweissenberger6983
      @johannweissenberger6983 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesharris9894 Save your project, so you will get a filename to save! Though there ist a dialog to change the filename in the send procedure it's not used (mybe a bug), the project name is used as filename.

    • @spencerlange125
      @spencerlange125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell ya, i was really hoping they would implement LAN connection. That's awesome!
      I just ordered my x1c combo yesterday. im too excited.

    • @solasauto
      @solasauto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lan breaks connection to bambu studio and app. so pretty useless until we can get a cura plugin for it.

  • @Titan3DAZ
    @Titan3DAZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a very nice video. I'm really happy you're back to this format.

  • @trevormorred6913
    @trevormorred6913 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have never watched a review where the reviewer make cogent credible argument for both sides of each design choice. Masterful

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, I've never been praised for such a thing before. This comment says as much about me as it does about you. Have a great day!

  • @JeppeKlingberg
    @JeppeKlingberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Sandy Munro energy in this super in-depth analysis of the engineering behind the X1C. Thanks a lot!

  • @HakanOnurDerici
    @HakanOnurDerici 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By far the deepest review I've ever seen about this Bambulab printer. I've seen some insights I was not aware before. Thanks for the good job

  • @workingTchr
    @workingTchr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just got the P1P. Fantastic review. I didn't think that "filter" would do much. I'm using a HEPA filter and 5 pounds are activated carbon VENTED to the outside when I print ABS. VOC's sink so I have the fan on the bottom of the my enclosure.

  • @brigvaldez4815
    @brigvaldez4815 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dig you and your bluntness, do not stop.

  • @EC-gy9pv
    @EC-gy9pv ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I ordered Bambu X1 Carbon last Monday, got it last Friday - they truly beat all the records - I live in Hawaii and delivery is always quite a tricky thing... Love it so far, printed lots of useful things.

  • @LANPOCALYPSE
    @LANPOCALYPSE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I subscribed to your channel when you first started it and after a while I stopped watching it because I got a bit of a jaded vibe coming off of you towards other content makers. I think this was because while I have a bit of an engineering background I look at 3D printers from more of an enthusiast perspective which a lot of other channels cater to. However the one thing I did take away from most of your videos is your engineering and design analysis instead of just touting all the little gizmos and shining things companies were adding to the printers. The video sends me on a complete 180 on your channel. You really did a great job looking at all off the aspects of the printer, pointing out its merits as well as flaws from the engineering point of view as well as your cyber security concerns about this product. NO OTHER CHANNEL has even brought this up! Excellent work. I am surprised that one of the big channels out there hasn't scooped you up and brought you onboard like Linus Tech Tips or someone.

  • @jameskiely5518
    @jameskiely5518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good to see you tear this down...excellent description of the internal workings... A lot of the software concerns have been addressed...IE the connection to the printer without using the cloud

  • @zincyellowmach1523
    @zincyellowmach1523 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for such a great review, I don't think I have ever said "I want one" and "maybe I don't" so many times in one review 🤣. I appreciate the honesty and detailed breakdown of the printer. It also helps to be able to see it from the perspective of someone I know has experienced other printers. I still like my prusa 😆 but generally agree with your take on things so that helps me know if I'm going to like something or not based on your review.

  • @Faze2vision
    @Faze2vision ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredibly done detailed analysis of the bamboo carbon! I enjoyed hearing your theories and ideas about open source. Especially having a controlled higher temperature enclosure.

  • @billkirchner4495
    @billkirchner4495 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm getting mine the day after tomorrow! AND - the Bambu Lab thank-you note I saw was in one of their user guides. Truely, an amazing company!!

  • @ROBNOB9X
    @ROBNOB9X ปีที่แล้ว

    Only just watched this and always a great place to come and see a real review rather than someone reading the features from the list and printing a few generic prints.

  • @fvrank
    @fvrank ปีที่แล้ว

    You got me buying a sapphire S, upgrade it to a duet with E3D v6 with own designed printhead and now you are tempting me to buy a Bambu. Thanks almost as good review as the Sapphire S 😂😂😂 just love your knowledge 👍

  • @mchockley
    @mchockley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, these comments are a shit show. I just found your channel today because I’m looking to buy one of these printers, but I wanted to say thank you and let you know that I’ve been looking around for a couple weeks and this is by far the most thought out, unbiased breakdown I’ve seen for this printer. You’re fair with your praise and your criticism alike. You can tell that you’ve put a lot of work in and were lucky to have your content. Subscribed man, thanks for what you do!

  • @c.gerdes-wocken
    @c.gerdes-wocken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    At 34:50 you see three green checkmarks, you can unklick them and the printer will skip the step you dont want, like in Bambu Studio. 40:00 If you select 'Send' instead of 'print plate' the file will be send to the SD card that is in the printer. Then you can print it from there.

    • @ernieoporto1111
      @ernieoporto1111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude omg thank you! I didn't know you can save it to the SDcard that way!

  • @setSCEtoAUX
    @setSCEtoAUX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm super impressed with mine. Thanks for the teardown pictures. I hadn't seen any good shots of the piezo sensors in the bed yet, or the x-axis bushings.

  • @tomaszbiskup891
    @tomaszbiskup891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great video! Few things come to mind.
    12:50 Lidar implementation is nothing new to 3d printing or CNC, i use one from Keyence to check weld on the fly on welding machine. The problem is cost vs functionality, It can be useful but it does not add much to print quality, thats why i think nobody would implement them in 3D printer. Dji drones usually use proximity sensors and camera vision not Lidar.
    16:55 The 3 lead screw cost is not only 5$ for stepper motor, it add complexity to motherboard and some to firmware, add extra stepper motor driver for like 5$ each, wires and connectors, plus mounting motor on each lead screw without timing belt would add much height to printer (motor height plus clutch).
    19:40 Adding stepper motors to front would not only bump the front but also sides to wrap frame around motors. Belt path on sides is pretty close to frame and motor would not fit easily i think. Adding the extra pulleys not only wrap belt around motor shaft but motors can be moved inside frame. pretty smart solution i think.
    I have mixed feeling about this machine. Hardware is excellent. The cloud or bambu login, slicer.. and closed firmware that can send whatever data to cloud, no active heating chamber even the printer is fully closed is not that great.

    • @benneely8864
      @benneely8864 ปีที่แล้ว

      What 3D printer would you recommend then? I agree with you, i have a Dji drone as well and it uses sensors as well, but i haven’t found any other printers that have this capability, unless i haven’t looked hard enough, are you comparing this printer to another printer, if so what, i’m looking for another 3d printer after having bad luck with creality printers.

  • @wesleydutoit6901
    @wesleydutoit6901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MAN OH MAN! What great detail! Im a mechanical engineering student and you really tickled all my concerns in investing in this 3D printer, which is a good and bad thing. As I am a student, Im worried about investing all my hard earned money in this printer(mentions on the longevity - for example: the circuit board placement), but I also know all the great things I can do with this printer. So Im a litte torn on buying this shiny bad boy.
    I would to hear your recommendation for someone who doesn't have much money to throw around.
    Thank you for your effort and great quality for information and dismantling skills! :)

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As a mechanical engineering student with knowledge and skills, I think you would be best serve, practicing. Flex those muscles man! Build your own printer. Or at least heavily modify one. Are you following Dr. D. Flow? There are so many options for you. You could start cheap like REALLY cheap. You can find used Ender 3s for around $100 dollars these days. Put a filament run out switch and a bed probe and you're as good as a Prusa. You can print anything you realistically would need. Not as quickly as the Bambu but you can then move on to more grown-up projects like a CNC router or a CNC plasma cutter.

    • @wesleydutoit6901
      @wesleydutoit6901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DesignPrototypeTesthmm good advice! I'll check out Dr D Flow. I have been worried about burning my house down with these kinds of projects😂 but it is time I get into modifying, other than just building a house for the 3D printer.
      I must say I was really captivated by the pure beauty of the bambu. It's just such a high tech machine. But time is on my side, so maybe modifying something can prove more useful.
      Thank you for your advice! I'll be sure to watch future content 😁

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is beautiful. It's also proprietary. Not a lot to modify there. There's other ways to skin a cat. You won't learn what they are unless you start at the bottom.

  • @airsoftbeast11234
    @airsoftbeast11234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed finally seeing a teardown for this printer, thanks for putting this together. Here are some tips for future videos coming from a mech eng PHD, some of your incorrect technical explanations for some sections were a hard watch, for example trying to explain the lidar sensor and how it "uses a camera to detect lasers". Also, your rant about the stepper controller board having improper cooling. Those components with the heat sinks get substantially hotter than the ambient temperature in the enclosure, and the little fan keeps a steady stream of air passing the heat sinks which will cool the components with the temperature gradient just fine. The best solution would be to have it in a thermally isolated section of the printer entirely and pull in air outside of the machine to allow for a higher temp gradient, but given the relatively low temperatures that this printer can handle, it should experience no issues over time. Also, keeping the z axis controlled by 1 stepper motor is a far better design choice than separate motors, for many purposes, complexity, additional components such as motors and stepper drivers, and then avoiding motor syncing issues (getting 3 cheap steppers to consistently work exactly in unison is difficult). This can guarantee that the bed will be true level and any small inaccuracies can easily be compensated with software, hearing "it would be cool" was a bit annoying and definitely shows lack of engineering design understanding. Overall, I think it would help out your technical credibility if you didn't state some of these things as facts and left some opinions as open ended to get feedback from the community.

  • @jraiello
    @jraiello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Long video with a lot of speculation rather than answers. Why not get Bambu Lab engineer on your channel to explain. I think you ate clearly missing some key engineering design principles and mentioning changes that are not needed like complicating the bed design on a printer that does perfect first layers always. To do what you suggest with “simply” more steppers doesn’t consider the frame design and space to accommodate let alone additional wiring and main board changes. All in all, without the detail of why they chose the options they did, the speculation is not helpful. I watched half and then the value was lost, sorry, hope this helps your thinking on delivering in future…

    • @joeylopezdesign
      @joeylopezdesign 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I concur, it came off very arrogant in intention while seeming very ignorant in knowledge. Like you just wanted to show off.

    • @Spankythesparky
      @Spankythesparky 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree, quite a bit of misinformation as well. I got about 40 mins into the video and had enough.

    • @enosunim
      @enosunim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually the only blogger so far who showed what this printer really is, instead of "Wow it trembles my table" and "Look, I can print from my phone" BS. = )

  • @doctorrudd156
    @doctorrudd156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thats the type of video I like to see. Thanks.

  • @MichaelAlexander-ds9dw
    @MichaelAlexander-ds9dw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant review. I bought mine for AU$2,250.00 as I am in Australia, and I am yet to unbox it. It arrived in 3 days and came with the AMS inside. I am moving house soon, so loathe to unbox it until then. The quality looks amazing, and I am so excited.

  • @brandoneich2412
    @brandoneich2412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That offset cooling style I first saw a year or so ago by Pro3D's video: "fan duct design optimizing by CFD | 3D printer toolhead design | the Triquetra"
    He had that offset/non-symentrical design pretty similar in concept, though different implementation.
    Really cool video looking at that. :)

  • @morbus5726
    @morbus5726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One of the best videos ive seen from this channel, and probably the best deep dive I've seen on this machine. It's crazy how much tech they've managed to package into such a tight form factor.
    19:15 also there is a separate camera in the toolhead to do first layer scans, and probably for that calibration board.

  • @clkbateman
    @clkbateman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow ! what a brilliant take on the Bambu Lab x1 carbon. 10/10 on this video, you left no stone unturned.

  • @rickdeckard7470
    @rickdeckard7470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I just got my X1C yesterday its a game changer.. I'm so impressed.. if Apple made this printer it would be unaffordable and unreliable.

    • @melgross
      @melgross ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, it might be more expensive, but it would be better and even more innovative with much better and higher featured software with APIs for third party software developers and a better warrantee.

    • @boggisthecat
      @boggisthecat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@melgross
      Apple products are overpriced and poorly engineered.

    • @melgross
      @melgross ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boggisthecat good for you. Nobody cares what you buy.

    • @boggisthecat
      @boggisthecat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@melgross
      You appear to care.

    • @AdamMclardy
      @AdamMclardy ปีที่แล้ว

      Stuck using a Samsung are we?

  • @Chris-oj7ro
    @Chris-oj7ro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great review! I always enjoy your critical rundowns of these machines and it's even better when you cover one that's already well engineered. It makes the flaws and potential improvements even more interesting.

  • @fvrank
    @fvrank ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After your review of the Sapphire S I purchased one and was very happy with it also upgraded it with a Duet and engineered a hotend mount for it, but thinkering fatigue and this review made me step to this printer. Thanks for your insight and same enthusiasm as with the Sapphire S 😂😂😂 keep up your expert profession.

  • @morningtide1367
    @morningtide1367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for going so deeply into the build components and engineering!

  • @fivelights907
    @fivelights907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got mine. I did the combo. Wow is all I can say. The LiDAR is insane.

  • @Defyant123
    @Defyant123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The masterclass as always was your vid, i always always learn some thing new when i watch your vids. I own one of these and 2 p1p's.

  • @Crystalblood2903
    @Crystalblood2903 ปีที่แล้ว

    iam super Hyped! ordered mine 2/25/23 i dont kidding if i say i researched this printer for 40 hours before hitting the order button.

  • @kommanderkeen
    @kommanderkeen ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered my A1 today. Will be my first printer, finally. Looking forward to use it :)

  • @addads6978
    @addads6978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought mine. Glad I found your video. Great work in everything you do.

  • @m_IDEX
    @m_IDEX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis! Thank you! Keep this series going. I was a little disappointed that you did not dismantle the bed further. You promised a destructive disassembly 😊. Seeing Nylon warping was priceless. Nothing can resist shrink forces. I had several glass and carbon fiber beds destroyed.

    • @NathanBuildsRobots
      @NathanBuildsRobots ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I took the bed apart. It’s nice, it has thermostat switch to cut off power at 160C as a safety mechanism. And 3 force sensors, 1 in each lead screw joint

  • @tinktrain1940
    @tinktrain1940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can send prints to the SD card, there’s the option in the drop down in the upper right hand corner

  • @EC-gy9pv
    @EC-gy9pv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent analysis! Thank you very much for explaining this new printer so well.

  • @JMPDev
    @JMPDev ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Some minor updates on the issues you shared in this video:
    - You can now use a LAN-only mode if you don't want to use the cloud.
    - You can now enable a 'print cache' option that will automatically save any print you send to the printer wirelessly and have it store them on the SD card for repeat prints, which shows up as a 3rd tab on the model selection screen.
    - 50:34 While discussing the airflow over the mainboard you seemed to have missed the dedicated fan that is visible to the right of it, which draws in fresh air from the side panel.
    - Some more power-user settings, such as manually setting flow rates and K values for a given filament, have been added to Bambu studio in software updates.
    Bambu also now sells their own adhesive liquid from their store, $16.99 for 60ml so still not cheap, but comes with a nice applicator so you generally only use a very, very small amount, no spray bottle.

    • @bobghengis
      @bobghengis ปีที่แล้ว

      You have to connect to the cloud at some point to update firmware. With the amount of fixes and enhancements they've made since release, this is essential, and using LAN only mode forever is not a real option

    • @Batchat2352
      @Batchat2352 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lan is not viable. The printer relies to the cloud to work preperly

  • @caesardgreatest
    @caesardgreatest ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not sure if anyone suggested it yet but if you add filament start gcode for ABS specifically to turn on the chamber fan to 30%, it reduces the ABS odor to almost none. Chage the filament stop gcode set to turn off the fan as well.

  • @mikanov100
    @mikanov100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now this is just great.. Way to go Matt.
    such a great video very informative with a bit of comedy. :)

  • @aware2action
    @aware2action ปีที่แล้ว

    Good that I watched till end😂. From I understanding, this is the first video on Bambulabs, to be extremely technical and nuetral(esp. lack of innovations, other than lidar for bed leveling), while highlighting issues with data privacy and intellectual property protection and the true spirit of open source hardware and software❤👍👍.

    • @fw_uke_ha
      @fw_uke_ha ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like you are not into 3d printing. First, lidar is not for bed leveling and second, every bambulab printer has a LAN mode, no cloud or even Internet needed there at all.

    • @aware2action
      @aware2action ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fw_uke_haEveryone knows what LiDAR is. Bed leveling is a planar operation and you neither need to extrude or to analyze the results after.
      Glad it got the Bambu PR bot's attention 💛👍

    • @thilov.5750
      @thilov.5750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fw_uke_ha Exactly! Lidar has nothing to do with bed leveling. Lidar probes the final z-offset and determines the final height of the nozzle and the flowrate of the filament. Lidar is not there for probing the bed. This is done via the heat bed sensor unit and pressure. This unit can sense force signals and convert these into electrical signals, according to certain rules, There for three ceramic force sensors are installed on the bottom of the heat bed.

    • @thilov.5750
      @thilov.5750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂 Lol, you claim issues with data privacy and individual property rights upload and/or download your stuff from thingiverse or other platforms?
      Is there any proof of data abuse from bambu lab? This is exactly my kind of humor.

    • @aware2action
      @aware2action ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thilov.5750 There is no proof China is after the IP from U.S. right? Why then there is so much export restrictions on sensitive tech? What about those party 🎈? Is there a proof of anything being misused? What is common between TikTok, Zoom and Bambulabs? 💭 in 🇨🇳. Don't forget who is behind the funding of BambuLabs and the parent drone company. LoL.

  • @MG1776-t9p
    @MG1776-t9p ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've had mine for a week. It is amazing. No tinkering, just printing. FAST. BTW, you have to remove the plastic film from the AMS feet. It will not slip with rubber on glass. Also, you can save sliced and painted models by exporting from Bambu Lab Studio.

  • @D4rKiTo
    @D4rKiTo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review on the printer. I just bought it but haven't received it yet, and like with everything I buy, I enjoy watching videos while I wait. Most of the ones I've seen, despite the printer being out for 2 years now, didn't tell me anything new (I've been into 3D printing for almost 10 years and have several printers, including a Voron 2.4). They just kept saying it prints really fast and blah blah blah. Not many technical details. Thanks for the video 😋

  • @Vez3D
    @Vez3D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like that single Z motor. So much simpler and everything synced on all lead screws. No need for a 3 motors and more complexity. Its actually well designed and thought here. :)

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are correct. It's the K.I.S.S. principle. Added functionality could justify the increased complexity. If slicers were able to use bed tilts in non-planner printing that could justify the added stepper motors. But this is all fantasy. For the current state of affairs, one motor is superior.

    • @AwestrikeFearofGods
      @AwestrikeFearofGods ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DesignPrototypeTest Tilting beds add more degrees of freedom for miscalibration error.

  • @stefan3d
    @stefan3d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video , this is really helpfull for all of us.
    Keep up the good work.
    Greetings from Romania.

  • @dreamcat4
    @dreamcat4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally got around to watching, enjoyed very much! you did such an excellent job thank you for another great critical review. except this was even better. especially grateful as you are really the only person out there who does justice to this process and gives such an honest and fair review

  • @jayf9259
    @jayf9259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolute best review of the Bambu X1C on TH-cam. I'm buying the X1C this week because of this video! Super glad I found your channel, consider me subscribed! PS, would love to see more Rhino 3D videos from you, also. You're good at teaching and explaining complex things in a way that simple minds like mine can understand! =)

  • @baderalafghani4564
    @baderalafghani4564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well made content thank you for the efforts and thank you for being brave and unbiased 👍🏻

  • @fribbledom5256
    @fribbledom5256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the kind of video I want to see on this channel. Well done!

  • @rudenickz
    @rudenickz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job! I'm positively jelly

  • @simonf.e.1387
    @simonf.e.1387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Regarding heat damage to the principal control circuit, (at 50.40) I think the idea is to draw ambient/cool external air into the enclosure - past the circuit, by creating negative pressure - via an exhaust fan. The perf's on the case back may also suggest this approach. If this is the case, by adding a temp. sensor in the control area you may experiment with more insulation? - Thank you for your thorough review! Very good!

  • @jojo42069
    @jojo42069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for these interesting inputs and just taking us along real experiences!

  • @sachinpatil-sp3wh
    @sachinpatil-sp3wh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for making this video.. I am making my own second corexy 3d printer from scratch. So i wanted to see bambu lab printer design from inside and negative sides of their design so that I can take lessons from them and add it into my design. Thanks

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely check out Tech2C. His hypercube is a great source of inspiration. Extremely well documented in the videos.

  • @GraphicsByDMA
    @GraphicsByDMA ปีที่แล้ว

    You are so right about the door. One of the very first things I did with my brand new X-1 Carbon...was almost f**k the door up trying to set it up lol.

  • @peterclegg2609
    @peterclegg2609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your best content for some time, well done.

  • @roadhammmer
    @roadhammmer ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed seeing it's guts and that answered my question on how they can sell it so cheap. Thanks for the video.

  • @NolanNonprivate
    @NolanNonprivate ปีที่แล้ว

    awsome review with a lot of intresting pros and cons + improvement ideas!

  • @SeanTaffert
    @SeanTaffert ปีที่แล้ว

    Best review of the carbon on youtube! Honest and detailed... BTW it isn't really lidar, just a camera.

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  ปีที่แล้ว

      There is definitely a laser. You can see it. Don't know why they would ship a laser and camera module if it does nothing. That's pretty much the most scammy thing I can imagine. Would put them out of business.

    • @SeanTaffert
      @SeanTaffert ปีที่แล้ว

      @Design Prototype Test it may be a laser, but there is no range finding only structured light scanning with a camera for edge detection and print quality adjustment. Not technically LiDAR.

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's good information! Can you tell me more, or is there an online source for this already? Maybe I can include the info in a future video.

    • @SeanTaffert
      @SeanTaffert ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DesignPrototypeTest I work at a Montreal based industrial 3D printer manufacturer and have looked at the tech involved. It seems like only cameras and (possibly) structured light. No range finding. Still very good and useful, just not technically LiDAR to us.

  • @TheTurboman2
    @TheTurboman2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The addition of two additional z stepper motors would also mean perfect synchronization and the potential for error. Also, the whole cabinet would have to be taller to accommodate the motors to be installed and concealed under the build space. The existing stepper motor is located behind the rear internal wall above the bottom of the internal floor.

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  ปีที่แล้ว

      All three separate motors could be located similarly with individual belts going to the individual lead screws.

  • @woodwaker1
    @woodwaker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was one of your best videos, you took a lot of time and were mostly correct with your assumptions. I also agree with the concern of having to send the files through the Bambu Cloud, as the LAN mode is in my opinion worthless. You can save the g-code and examine it, but the only way to transfer it is via SD, which is so outdated. I'm hoping that someone will come up with a hack to make this more like Klipper where the printer can be accessed via a web browser.

    • @ShuhDonk
      @ShuhDonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can print via bambu studio in lan mode where it does not use the cloud.

    • @woodwaker1
      @woodwaker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShuhDonk But you can't see the camera, and I'm not sure you can submit jobs. I tried it and was very dispirited. I hope they make the LAN mode the same as using the Bambu cloud

    • @ShuhDonk
      @ShuhDonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@woodwaker1 Correct, the camera will not work, not sure what you mean about submitting jobs though. If the printers are in lan mode you can print the same way as you do via the cloud in bambu studio but does not go through the cloud, directly to the printer.

    • @woodwaker1
      @woodwaker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShuhDonk I'll have to try it again. The loss of the camera was a big problem for me, as I submit most of my prints from my office two floors above. I can control my Rat Rigs with no problems and send g-code directly to them, no 3mf files needed and no reslicing.

    • @ShuhDonk
      @ShuhDonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@woodwaker1 yeah, I do wish there was an octoprint kinda thing available for the bambu lab printers and not needing to slice and resend when you print the same files over and over again, which is what I do between the 7 x1c's I have everyday. I could put the gcode files on the sd cards of each printer but prefer to control all the printers remotely from a pc like I did with my prusa's and other printers via octoprint previously.

  • @homegunsmithunger598
    @homegunsmithunger598 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one and I am totally impressed, that thing is incredible, thats all I can say about it.

  • @pdxcerealkilla9847
    @pdxcerealkilla9847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a happy owner of this printer I love the information included in this video

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review! I hope the next version puts more emphasis on repairability.
    And it sure seems that they should have forget about the fan + air filter and use 3 stepper motors for the z-axis instead for the same money.

  • @jayedwin98020
    @jayedwin98020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 18:00 in the video, your assertion that adding two additional stepper motors would only add an additional "$9.00" is probably low.
    There are other factors like there installation, possible modifications to the framework, etc. But even if it were three to four times the cost, it would probably still be worth it, if it would helped to add to the accuracy of the "Z" movement!
    So far, a great video!

  • @MasterThief117
    @MasterThief117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I absolutely love this in-depth video and review on the printer. Your consistently publish really good content and it's very appreciated.

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man! Thank you. This one got to me. "I love you too." Have a great day!

  • @Barnacules
    @Barnacules ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I guess he didn't want people seeing what he did to me on Twitter today.

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty rich coming from the guy who blocks me on Twitter even though I never said a thing to or about you over there before yesterday.

    • @Barnacules
      @Barnacules ปีที่แล้ว

      Just check the test_prototype account on the date of 3/12 and work your way forward if you want to know what happened and why Matt is still lying.

  • @tonyfweb
    @tonyfweb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm posting this a year after this video was uploaded but I got my X1C about a month ago and have had no issues with it. My only failed print was due to wet filament. Retrying it, without changing any settings and just changing the filaments to one that had been recently dried worked wonders. I actually did my first ABS print today, and I didn't experience any issues with smell. However, I was using ABS-GF from Bambu Lab, so I'm not sure if there's a new formula, if the glass fibers assist, or if the filter has been updated, but basically no fumes. Printer is in my bedroom.

  • @radekheil2947
    @radekheil2947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The gap between belts is due to unique solution. there is no X and Y movements. Instead upper belt moves the head 45° like in infill movement, and the second belt moves the head in another 45°. So most of the time you are printing diagonnaly infill, so only one motor is doing hard job, the second is just adding small steps. In next layer -45 diagonnally, the most work is doing the second motor and the first one just adding small steps.

  • @stuarthelliwell6784
    @stuarthelliwell6784 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a knobb!!!! Obsessing over the bloody door 😂😂😂

  • @wyannick888
    @wyannick888 ปีที่แล้ว

    35:34, you can do this on the printer. Just press off the the green "V's". See 34:51.
    Great review BTW, didnt think that anyone would come up with good review after this long.

  • @enosunim
    @enosunim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for such a detailed review! It definitely a good thing that Bambu comes and tries to eat the whole pie of 3d printing instead of taking a cut.
    But no revolution for sure. I still do not see much reasons to change my Ender 3 (the first model) to anything else. Those custom profiles or even frames (like V3 model or A1 mini) are one time use. And that printer was a really great improvement over models of that era. It is cheap and reliable, easy to maintain.
    While it have some problems, which Creality for some reason do not want to fix and sells it as is still. But after you fix them (and no it is not second Z bolt or BS-touch) it prints and prints and prints. And later models are just crap. So its no rocket science Bambu is popular among those who bought crap and couldn't make it run.
    As for Ender 3, I just installed some cheap DIY DD and fixed bed surface with foil and bare hands, and the rest is done with firmware upgrade. Linear Advance, Input Shaping, new hotend heating algorithm, you name it. It is just unbelievable that $100 7 years old model can print with speeds and quality comparable to top notch printers. I have less then 30% difference with X1 Carbon Bambulab estimation with stock motors and belts. Just enabled 3000 mm/s2 accelerations and 150mm/s speeds. I do not print PLA, but PETG and 0.6mm nozzle Bambu PETG profiles use 150mm max speed. I actually copied print settings from Bambu Slicer = )
    So I am not a heavy print modder, when only frame is left from original Ender 3. And on that background Babmu printers does not look so great. I was expecting more from them. For example lazer filament motion sensor. But they only provide runout sensor, so users will not use cheap filaments. Which is understandable.
    Mostly people talk about ecosystem. Which is copied by other companies already.
    This cloud tech is a really smart idea I guess = ) They have a lot of stls now for free. And people are registering by themselves. It is a really smart move.

  • @SingularityAdvent
    @SingularityAdvent ปีที่แล้ว

    1) magnetic sheets exist for a very long time.
    2) Lidar checking for fillament deposition is NOT a Chinese invension, you can still find the original creator on youtube explaining and sharing the knowhow, but indeed Bambulab seems to be the first to implement it.
    3) The filter idea is good, but it doesn't do much. Its just for the exhausted air, while it should have been to circulate the air inside the printer to absorb toxic fumes. You still get that when you open the door.
    4) The Lidar has a laser liner and a camera, the dots is for the camera to know how to scale and interpret distance, since the bed might be 1mm higher or lower and that's critical to determine the height of the first layer.
    5) Wait for patents to expire and then the printer will get a great update.
    Great review.

  • @Shinobubu
    @Shinobubu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you look at the bill of parts on this printer its pretty inexpensive but well put together. What is a game changer is the LIDAR.

  • @thelightspeed3d712
    @thelightspeed3d712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Poopy shoe Mathew? Not my far superior Poop Whale? It’s on thangs!

  • @DoctorSinister1987
    @DoctorSinister1987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bit late to the party but wow that was an excellently thorough review. Thank you very much!

  • @jstro-hobbytech
    @jstro-hobbytech ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was an emi inductor where there was mains going into the board. I could send you pictures of them. They're used for common mode rejection and safety as you can see along with the 3 class y rated capacitors.

  • @psionski
    @psionski ปีที่แล้ว +2

    47:40 "I don't understand how they are recouping the money", he says, right after talking about the cloud login and stealing all of your designs 😅 Guess same way like how Huawei is recouping the money for their 5G cell towers!

  • @MrChancebozey
    @MrChancebozey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankfully apple didn't make this printer. It works and isn't over priced.

  • @SchindlerWeddings
    @SchindlerWeddings ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This review is crazy! Just wow!

  • @kelvinchow3663
    @kelvinchow3663 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Graphite lubricant was used in enclosed system even in the old day. My father is mechanic and I also learnt its lubricant effect in chemistry lesson