Timestamps: 00:20 Where is MNU at the moment 06:29 Diet as aggressively as you can: who is it for & has anything changed since Martin said it? 20:02 Realistic rate of fat loss before losing lean body mass. Definition of low calorie/aggressive dieting 42:31 Calculation of caloric intake for bodyfat loss
Amazing interview love the rapid fat loss approach: Lyle McDonald wrote a book covering this decades ago and I’m glad Martin is bringing this research to light
4:50 GREAT idea on that fun and training/life balance subject; I hope you do something on it soon! Regarding smoking: Unless it's because it's so *obvious* that it's not particularly deleterious to gains, it's hard to see why Dr. MacD should have been so surprised to be asked that question! I doubt many in this audience would bat an eyelash. Cigarette and other recreational drug use have historically hardly been so rare among athletes as the public supposes; and the fitness industry (in part because alcohol is pretty much the only rec substance that significantly impedes our performance) is certainly one of the more extreme sport communities in that respect. People are more healthful nowadays in general, of course; but among athletes that effect has been countered by an increased awareness and honesty among us of the distinction--contrary to "folk morality"--between sport performance and healthfulness, even in sports with the most "healthy" or "wholesome" reputation and culture like running. Of course the *fitness industry* --again, at close to the opposite extreme--has long been extremely aware of the performance/health distinction! (Yet another of the many sociological factors leading to our high rates of unhealthful recreational habit.) Not the central matter here, of course--I loved this episode!--but touches on a subject that should be discussed more. In fact, again, there should be a *lot* more attention paid to "fun," and lifestyle issues in general; you and your guests have always explicitly addressed psychological and social issues (even if only to bracket them) so addressing lifestyle from the "nerd perspective" is something that is new for this community but will be very exciting. Only one I know is Menno's awesome binge drinking guide! Cheers and thanks for everything you do.
My question about super low calorie for fat loss is at some point you can't fit your macro needs in because they would be to many calories. So do you just get all your protein in and whatever is left is carbs.
I have seen your previous episode on same subject with Martin, He recently has launched a podcast discussing this and planning to release a ebook this on subject. While I know he doesn't count his calories and kind of intuitively does it during his deficit but I personally would like to know more how to strategise the meals and what specific foods to eat during such huge deficit since paper research usually give meal replacement shakes to subjects.
What do you mean in such huge deficit? As in a minicut type of cut? For any cut, it's fairly simple in terms of what you want = - Hit your minimal protein (1g/lb) - Hit your minimal fats (0.3g/lb) - Plenty of fiber to keep you full and micronutrients in - Rest in carbs - Spread throughout the day with a few protein feedings and however it fits your schedule in terms or practicality and adherence :) - Coach Jess
@@ReviveStronger Thanks :) Well by huge deficit I meant during aggressive dieting specifically and yes for a short period of time. How to strategise meals and what specific food groups would be better than simply "intuitively" eating on this diet.
Wouldnt be a better idea basing energy availability on non essential bodyfat so that women wont have a much more aggressive deficit compared to men. Especially since the essential bodyfat cannot release kcal. In that way it can be like x kcal per kg of non essential bodyfat?
Martin really has to work on his talking/speech skills.. He is very hard to follow. Main thing to get people to understand you is to first state the point in as little words as possible and then elaborate. He elaborates from the start. Lyle McDonald could have done this video in under 10 min and cover way more topics
I’m obviously living under a rock, I’ve never heard of MNU. Odd man out here but, I wish Martin would have stuck to the point. I found this one hard to follow, a lot of talk to say divide by 15 or was it 13 or 20? But maybe I’m missing something here, like I said the rambling made it hard for me to follow. It did get me thinking though, so still worth the watch.
I don't understand how he functions on 800 to 1000 a day, or did I misunderstand something? My best guess is he's talking about being at that level while still being in a moderate bodyfat range?
1.2kg of muscle loss is significant over a year, I think most lifters know how long it would take to gain 1.2kg of muscle. This was done on general public, meaning they are not breaking done their muscle with weight training, its my opinion that 1.2kg of muscle loss would be greater with athletes. Maybe RFL is decent for people only concerned with rapid fat loss, but if you have any athletic / sports persuits and performance is important I would stick to the moderate deficit.
What I really can't seem to find is how low your fat intakes can go without unwanted complications assuming you are taking Omega 3 DHA from a supplement. % are meaningless when you are on a 1200 or 1000 kcal diet.
"diet as aggressively as possible and you won't lose muscle"...was some of the worst advice I ever heard. Still trying to recover from the eating disorder I brought upon myself doing that
@@daytonasayswhat9333you should have noticed that your comment makes no sense before posting it. "taking it too far" would imply I did something that is not possible...obviously not the case. Also never tell a bodybuilder to do anything as "far as possible" or "as much as possible" we are a bunch of people that has a love/hate relationship with pain. We thrive in suffering... especially once we start warming up to it and build some momentum it's easier and easier to over do stuff like dieting and training. But then again I am probably wasting my time on someone with the intellect of a chicken judging from your comment
That's one thing I dislike about Martin covering is that he frequently goes off tangent when discussing something in length than addressing some important specifc points. He has mentioned in his new podcast on this issue. If you have psychological bad mindset in terms of food or tendency to binge eat, he has emphasised that you should work on fixing it before even going on a fatloss diet.
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Timestamps:
00:20 Where is MNU at the moment
06:29 Diet as aggressively as you can: who is it for & has anything changed since Martin said it?
20:02 Realistic rate of fat loss before losing lean body mass. Definition of low calorie/aggressive dieting
42:31 Calculation of caloric intake for bodyfat loss
These are very helpful.
i guess I am pretty randomly asking but does anybody know of a good website to stream new movies online ?
@Gideon Finley I would suggest flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
@Jerome Maxim yup, been watching on FlixZone for years myself :D
@Jerome Maxim thank you, I signed up and it seems like a nice service :D I really appreciate it !
I love this dude, great to see him back for another episode.
Always good to have him on!
- Coach Jess
Searching for Martin MacDonald is what originally led me to revive stronger.
Amazing!!
- Coach Jess
I miss this guy on social media. Such a madlad
He's on insta all the time
Amazing interview love the rapid fat loss approach: Lyle McDonald wrote a book covering this decades ago and I’m glad Martin is bringing this research to light
Glad you enjoyed it! And that book is a classic. - Steve
Some very interesting perspectives
4:50 GREAT idea on that fun and training/life balance subject; I hope you do something on it soon!
Regarding smoking: Unless it's because it's so *obvious* that it's not particularly deleterious to gains, it's hard to see why Dr. MacD should have been so surprised to be asked that question! I doubt many in this audience would bat an eyelash. Cigarette and other recreational drug use have historically hardly been so rare among athletes as the public supposes; and the fitness industry (in part because alcohol is pretty much the only rec substance that significantly impedes our performance) is certainly one of the more extreme sport communities in that respect. People are more healthful nowadays in general, of course; but among athletes that effect has been countered by an increased awareness and honesty among us of the distinction--contrary to "folk morality"--between sport performance and healthfulness, even in sports with the most "healthy" or "wholesome" reputation and culture like running. Of course the *fitness industry* --again, at close to the opposite extreme--has long been extremely aware of the performance/health distinction! (Yet another of the many sociological factors leading to our high rates of unhealthful recreational habit.)
Not the central matter here, of course--I loved this episode!--but touches on a subject that should be discussed more. In fact, again, there should be a *lot* more attention paid to "fun," and lifestyle issues in general; you and your guests have always explicitly addressed psychological and social issues (even if only to bracket them) so addressing lifestyle from the "nerd perspective" is something that is new for this community but will be very exciting. Only one I know is Menno's awesome binge drinking guide! Cheers and thanks for everything you do.
I been doing OMAD for 5 days with weekends to catch up on calories. I highly recommend it.
My question about super low calorie for fat loss is at some point you can't fit your macro needs in because they would be to many calories. So do you just get all your protein in and whatever is left is carbs.
Protein requirements + fat requirements (0.3g/lb) and the rest in carbs :)
- Coach Jess
Thank you. That makes sense.
I love all these videos. So much great information. 💪💪
Glad you like them, thanks for watching!
- Coach Jess
Does anyone have a link to the spreadsheet? I've tried with 2 emails and still haven't received it. I've checked every folder.
I have seen your previous episode on same subject with Martin, He recently has launched a podcast discussing this and planning to release a ebook this on subject. While I know he doesn't count his calories and kind of intuitively does it during his deficit but I personally would like to know more how to strategise the meals and what specific foods to eat during such huge deficit since paper research usually give meal replacement shakes to subjects.
What do you mean in such huge deficit? As in a minicut type of cut?
For any cut, it's fairly simple in terms of what you want =
- Hit your minimal protein (1g/lb)
- Hit your minimal fats (0.3g/lb)
- Plenty of fiber to keep you full and micronutrients in
- Rest in carbs
- Spread throughout the day with a few protein feedings and however it fits your schedule in terms or practicality and adherence :)
- Coach Jess
@@ReviveStronger Thanks :) Well by huge deficit I meant during aggressive dieting specifically and yes for a short period of time. How to strategise meals and what specific food groups would be better than simply "intuitively" eating on this diet.
Wouldnt be a better idea basing energy availability on non essential bodyfat so that women wont have a much more aggressive deficit compared to men. Especially since the essential bodyfat cannot release kcal. In that way it can be like x kcal per kg of non essential bodyfat?
Thats an "X" meaning number
Martin really has to work on his talking/speech skills.. He is very hard to follow. Main thing to get people to understand you is to first state the point in as little words as possible and then elaborate. He elaborates from the start. Lyle McDonald could have done this video in under 10 min and cover way more topics
Thank you for your input!
- Coach Jess
Agreed. Excellent content though.
I’m obviously living under a rock, I’ve never heard of MNU. Odd man out here but, I wish Martin would have stuck to the point. I found this one hard to follow, a lot of talk to say divide by 15 or was it 13 or 20? But maybe I’m missing something here, like I said the rambling made it hard for me to follow.
It did get me thinking though, so still worth the watch.
He interrupts himself repeatedly and leaves half-sentences dangling, it can be a challenge especially if English is not one's first language
Agree very very hard to follows as he seems to not really conclude on a topic , leaving it half way and then onto something else. Very odd
Sorry about that but glad you made it through!
- Coach Jess
If you watch the previous episode he did on same subject on this podcast, you will understand what he is talking about better.
I don't understand how he functions on 800 to 1000 a day, or did I misunderstand something? My best guess is he's talking about being at that level while still being in a moderate bodyfat range?
I needed to take it to 1300-1500 calories a day for several weeks in a row for my prep. Wasn't too bad actually
- Pascal
What’s about just not eating aka snake diet?
What's your question? It's not super clear haha!
- Coach Jess
1.2kg of muscle loss is significant over a year, I think most lifters know how long it would take to gain 1.2kg of muscle.
This was done on general public, meaning they are not breaking done their muscle with weight training, its my opinion that 1.2kg of muscle loss would be greater with athletes.
Maybe RFL is decent for people only concerned with rapid fat loss, but if you have any athletic / sports persuits and performance is important I would stick to the moderate deficit.
What I really can't seem to find is how low your fat intakes can go without unwanted complications assuming you are taking Omega 3 DHA from a supplement. % are meaningless when you are on a 1200 or 1000 kcal diet.
Ideally .3g/lb, you can dip lower if it's not for months on end!
- Coach Jess
@@ReviveStronger Thank you, for some reason I have missed this response lol.
Just two guys with lovely posh English accents tbh
Just for this alone this podcast deserves more views^^
- Pascal
5 people think ketones should be used on drip
Looooooool
- Pascal
💪💪❤️❤️‼️
Thanks!
- Coach Jess
Please work on your Audio quality ,Every time I listen to your Podcasts, I sleep
I listened just to make sure, and this sounds good to me!
- Coach Jess
It sounds fine. Would you stay awake if the audio was better? That doesn't make any sense.
"diet as aggressively as possible and you won't lose muscle"...was some of the worst advice I ever heard. Still trying to recover from the eating disorder I brought upon myself doing that
“As possible.” You obviously went too far. It’s good advice. Sorry you couldn’t hack it. Take up Magic the Gathering.
@@daytonasayswhat9333you should have noticed that your comment makes no sense before posting it. "taking it too far" would imply I did something that is not possible...obviously not the case.
Also never tell a bodybuilder to do anything as "far as possible" or "as much as possible" we are a bunch of people that has a love/hate relationship with pain. We thrive in suffering... especially once we start warming up to it and build some momentum it's easier and easier to over do stuff like dieting and training. But then again I am probably wasting my time on someone with the intellect of a chicken judging from your comment
That's one thing I dislike about Martin covering is that he frequently goes off tangent when discussing something in length than addressing some important specifc points. He has mentioned in his new podcast on this issue. If you have psychological bad mindset in terms of food or tendency to binge eat, he has emphasised that you should work on fixing it before even going on a fatloss diet.