Ginyinja doesn't believe that the witnesses saw a revolver but believes they can identify the tall and slender intruder,he is giving the defence more fire arm every time he talks his fabrication
@@ahmedserekonyane3339 he believes they did see an empty revolver Muzi was carrying corroborated by Sifiso Ngwabini's statement ,but doesn't believe that the revolver killed Senzo, because the projectile that killed senzo is a 9mm one and there was a damaged one that was found stuck in the tiles, measurement showed it's a 9mm projectie.The measurement of senzo's wound is consistent with a 9mm bullet not revolver so you can't argue with Science. Allegedly
@ahmedserekonyane3339 cartridges were picked up by Mncube with the help of Kelly khumalo ,as she ,Makhumalo, and Christian, witnessed the second bullet that killed Senzo and she refused for the boy to be interviewed 🤔whe now know why.Everyone else was hiding but ngebhadi they couldn't find the projectile that killed senzo and didn't have time to remove the damaged one stuck in tiles which will later match the ones found on Mncube's wardrobe were his gf miss Tefu came to testify that they were not planted she saw the police finding them and putting them in evidence bag .Luckily, Mncube used the same gun to shoot a taxi boss 4 months later. If it wasn't for that, this case wouldn't have been solved .He got arrested with the gun .Barrel of the gun is like fingerprints no gun has the same markings .No bullet got planted in by Gininda otherwise if he intended to frame Mncube, he should've done so in 2015 when this gun was inserted in IBIS through not 2019 .Test done by Rolofse with FMJ matches the one done by Mangena using the same ammunition but they missed it at first because Mncube used CMJ which is weaker that makes marks to be more pronounced as our honorable Judge adequately put it .Allegedly
No No Mr Absalom Zungu never testified, the person who testified (not during trial within a trial) was his son who is a police officer Sikhumbuzo Sizwe Zungu.....15/11/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us Absolom is no more if I'm not mistaken and his source Mbhekiseni is denying any knowledge of whatever Absolom is talking about in his statement.I stand to be corrected.
This gininda did not do any investigation.. he reads information and comes to a conclusion..... A cold case cracked woth hearsay and prosecutorial investigation... I feel sorry for the accused.
This Judge he's so buyer's he protect Gininda,when Gininda he's singing his song the Judge look smiling,when is the diffance time to sing the Judge change the face,this Judge must follow Mahumela he is a shity Judge
Ramosepele is driving this ship to the possible getaway of the storm, he testing evidence to later argue tht it's a hearsay evidence even those gave it can't prove it, and then he will level with arguing against the confessions
🗣Wooooow Ntanzi is smart and listens👌🏿🔥pidipidi ga swabê 'warning' for the what🤷🏿♀️mr colluding ke seeleele o delay case wa enjoy coz his mokhukhu is boring him🚮
This case is a rehearsal, all these years it was all about rehearsing and the investigation is dependant on the statements not on what said in court according to Gininda, even the confession was rehearsed also
Because key witnesses mostly killed who differed with statements made by the people in the house😅(It a joke they use to Gininda because he never provide death certificates)
i think we must look for the person who taught Gininda the english words "in so far as part of the evidence is concerned my Lord..." and the one who taught Ramosiphile "I am indebted my Lord" 😂
There was no intruder, longwe know who kill senzo, and the people was with longwe in the car know what was happening in the house finished...... Mapiri, Themba Khumalo and makhumalo must come and testify, Kelly is last one 😒😒😒
It is exactly the reason why prosecution abandoned the other important witness "lady who is said she cleaned the scene of crime" and the lady on her own she's willing to come and set the record straight inter alia she wants to clear her name by saying ÷ a. No intruders came into the house, the people who were in the house were enjoying themselves drinking alcohol; b. Like many other occasions they started arguing and fighting amongst themselves, some days the argument and fight ceased, they'll continue drinking alcohol, but on the night in question the fight ended very bad with senzo been shot and killed, c. All of them knows that Longwe has a gun, and he flashed it out whenever there's a disagreement, perhaps it's been put on table during their enjoyment time or eating sessions; d. Between longwe and kelly one of them killed senzo, and zandi wanted to talk that's the reason why sisters were hating eachother, e. By removing Advocate Teffo from this case that's when everything goes to south, he was coming to the core of the matter, f. I am a friend of their mother "makhumalo" and reliable neighbour, she called me after the whole thing happened; g. On my arrival there senzo's body was already been removed, and the house was cleaned up blood from the floor; h. I asked her what happened she said iyooo this children put me in trouble as you can see they've been fighting and senzo got injured, the house was mess you can see that there was a big fight; h. I began to pack up things, not to clean but to put things in order; i. Even if they were asked me to clean, i would have asked a hand and foot price for cleaning blood "just saying" j. When they called me, they were already back from hospital, all of them were so weak and confused; k. Now listening to zandi in court says she fought people with a gun, it was all fabrication the manner in which she said it one can see that those people who were fighting knew each other, no one can bravery fight an armed thug; l. According to what i observed Longwe is the one who shot senzo; m. Their reason to call me was to get a scape goat, so it can be said the lady "neighbour" cleaned the blood. Those are the words of the lady, she further said 1. I was hurt by Senzo's mom when she asked Kelley's mom why the lady cleaned the scene, because i didn't clean it, i found it cleaned, 2. I was surprised why Kelly's mom failed to tell who cleaned the house. All this statement is on a podcast, anyone curious go and view, listen to it.
😂😂the evidence is not evidencing😂😂😂 after the first shot, the guy with dreadlocks came passed the car running to the park, after that shot..the second shot followed...so endlini bathi it is the guy with dreadlocks who shot Senzo, so wayephuma agijime aye-park aphinde abuye ezodubula? Again kanti ubani lona ababemshaya..noma wayebaleka abuye abuye baphinde bamshaye?...and where did longwe went to after intruders get inside the house coz kuthiwa kukhona obekade egadile abanye belinde ngaphandle nge-Polo eli-Grey....this cooking is not cooking
@SiyabongaMthethwa-jm7dr don't rush let me dish it to you real quick 1.A polo arrives and drops off 3 nkabis by the electric box 2.They enter the house Longwe pushes them as planned with the mastermind that they will excuse Longwe but that will start a scuffle 3.2 shots are fired inside the house and Ntanzi runs out 4.Muzi enters the house carrying a 38 revolver, and Maphisa enters the yard as well but he finds that everything went well .he helps Mncube pick up the cartridges 5.Mncube,Maphia,Sibiya are running out, but Maphisa fires the last shot in the air to scare neighbors as they fled to the getaway vehicle, which was at the park .The evidence is corroborated. ALLEGEDLY
I have said it, that Brigadier will be saying "i have dealt with that my Lord" during cross-examination trying to get court protection. Court is silent phez'kwakhe Advocates, that's why you robed and picked up a linen 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Is there a way for defence to check the date when brigade certified old Zungu statement that his trips colloborate with him being at nongoma at that time. I want to see something
😂😂😂 by mentioning "free of charge" one can understand your level of knowledge. In RSA there's no lawyer that can appear in court on behalf of anyone for free, you may not personally fund their services, but the application you forwarded to LAB upon it's approval, they are paid on your behalf. Next time try to do some research before you embarrassed yourself 😉
@@kingphoka-uf5tkdon't try to create an argument he is referring to that lawyer that is being paid by the legally aid. He's trying to say he can't hire them and even when the legally aid is paying them he can't accept them this how i understand him
Can the judge stop drumming or tapping with his pen and fingers on the table. It's very distructive, he does this in every sitting but only when the defense crosses 😮
3 back males one with a fire arm Longwe twala 1st one with the gun in his after shooting 2nd black male mtkosisi 3rd black male the one mtkosisi said followed him
@snenhlahlancanana2436 makes sense, but the difficulty is as early as 4 days after the incident law enforcement was investigating suspects as far as Nongoma, KZN while the murder took place in Gauteng......surely this is suspicious.
I'm sure the one who dd our advocate Msholololo's hair style is believing the nonsense story of the state and the corrupt Gininda ngoba wow udlalile ngaye shem
Please guys just relax. Kelly's bribe is over and that the said accused life was in danger, fearing that his co accused would have him killed he then decided to confess after being warned and told that the same confession might be used against him in a court of law, and now that he's still getting bribed by Kelly together with the defence team and that can't reverse the irreversible confession and at same time Kelly's source of money has been getting smaller and smaller by the day to a point that she might end up giving up and decide to becy a fugitive. The worse part is the accused individualsm, they publicly display that they are still in the money flashing their lifestyle, they can't hide what Kelly is pumping into their pockets, they keep themselves looking expensive in big brand names i.e. Fabiani. I wonder how how much they got in total, so don't worry when Gininda testify how accused 2 implicated 34&5.
Mamphiri statement she said when heard first shot she saw some gus running ok this statement she makes in 2014 😂ok by 2020 confesion he said when first shot was fired he run away 😂 but people keep on saying the case was cooked 😂
The more I listen to this the more I am convinced about collusion between the accused and some people in the house. 1. Common photo of money bag found in one of the accused's phone and some that were in the house. 2. Claiming that the victim's phone was found at the house whereas it was pinging at the hospital 3. The issue if a hat which never contained the DNA of any of the the accused 4. Contradicting descriptions of culprits 5. Claiming with precision thst the gun used was a .38 revolver whereas the bullet specimen was different and pointing to a pistol 6. Failure for one of those in the house to declare all the phones they owned. 7. One of the accused claiming in their confession that they were with some people who were actually in prison at the material time 8. Cleaning of the scene. 9. Sim swaping of the victim's phone. So many contradictions
I admire Mr Ramosepele's work ethic....he displays diligence, passion and determination.....but it will seem here he is flogging a dead horse coz the confessions already admitted have a very negative impact on his client's case.....Note made on 14/11/2024
This witness Brig BN Gininda is so far the best witness in this case.....guys you can butcher me wnd fire at me from all angles but thats what i believe in...and i doubt if i will ever change....14/11/2024
@@OsbornFf Which defense are you talking about, Ramsopele is a joke, Mncube so-so, Mshololo spurious arguments just a loud bang, Mnisi perhaps but all the defense are very weak. Offenders will rarely accept any guilty, especially whenever they see a chance of winning the case. Psychologically I believe the 5 accused have a hand in the death of Senzo. So far Ntanzi has been proven wrong many a times, ask yourself Why does he lie if he is innocent? Why did accused 3 deny that he had dreadlocks, and why removing them? Even accused no. 1 all lies.
2:41:10 Kholobarate says he wouldn't have checked for tattoos because none of the statements mentioned anything about tattoos. Perhaps I missed it during the truckload of evidence given in court. Can someone with a sharp memory assist me here. Did any statement say one of the "intruders" was injured in the foot? It is Manganye and Kholobarate's evidence that they went around inspecting the accuseds' feet.
Ramosepele start to cross examine gininda you just having a bold and beautiful conversation
I think he is just throwing questions out there to build for the rest of the defense team
Ginyinja doesn't believe that the witnesses saw a revolver but believes they can identify the tall and slender intruder,he is giving the defence more fire arm every time he talks his fabrication
Because he believes that making a long comment, will eventually gain him a court favour. Maybe that's how he's doing during his court testimonies.
@@ahmedserekonyane3339 he believes they did see an empty revolver Muzi was carrying corroborated by Sifiso Ngwabini's statement ,but doesn't believe that the revolver killed Senzo, because the projectile that killed senzo is a 9mm one and there was a damaged one that was found stuck in the tiles, measurement showed it's a 9mm projectie.The measurement of senzo's wound is consistent with a 9mm bullet not revolver so you can't argue with Science. Allegedly
@Chibvunza Oh I see,by some miracle both bullet casings decided to vanish from the house isn't that also questionable
Your are no expert, but if you listened an expert witness explained how the casings may have been transported@@ahmedserekonyane3339
@ahmedserekonyane3339 cartridges were picked up by Mncube with the help of Kelly khumalo ,as she ,Makhumalo, and Christian, witnessed the second bullet that killed Senzo and she refused for the boy to be interviewed 🤔whe now know why.Everyone else was hiding but ngebhadi they couldn't find the projectile that killed senzo and didn't have time to remove the damaged one stuck in tiles which will later match the ones found on Mncube's wardrobe were his gf miss Tefu came to testify that they were not planted she saw the police finding them and putting them in evidence bag .Luckily, Mncube used the same gun to shoot a taxi boss 4 months later. If it wasn't for that, this case wouldn't have been solved .He got arrested with the gun .Barrel of the gun is like fingerprints no gun has the same markings .No bullet got planted in by Gininda otherwise if he intended to frame Mncube, he should've done so in 2015 when this gun was inserted in IBIS through not 2019 .Test done by Rolofse with FMJ matches the one done by Mangena using the same ammunition but they missed it at first because Mncube used CMJ which is weaker that makes marks to be more pronounced as our honorable Judge adequately put it .Allegedly
Kanti guys Zungu didn’t say he saw the guys.He was with them please help me
That's exactly what he said.
Apparently he was with them , saw them maybe hike forgotten- his father reminded him 😂😂😂
That was during trial within a trial,correct me if I'm wrong guys
No No Mr Absalom Zungu never testified, the person who testified (not during trial within a trial) was his son who is a police officer Sikhumbuzo Sizwe Zungu.....15/11/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us Absolom is no more if I'm not mistaken and his source Mbhekiseni is denying any knowledge of whatever Absolom is talking about in his statement.I stand to be corrected.
Gininda is trying to protect his job and reputation? He is not a credible witness.
This gininda did not do any investigation.. he reads information and comes to a conclusion..... A cold case cracked woth hearsay and prosecutorial investigation... I feel sorry for the accused.
Om sure you don't know what investigation is.
@thulaninkosi1177 school me
@@thulaninkosi1177its pretty clear youre the one who is clueless here
He did investigation so wat do mean he didn't do investigation
@@HarryMzwaneyon yiphi ngoba yonke into uthi wayizwa ngoMakeleni uhlakaniphile bo lomakeleni okwazi ukubon umuntu egijime fake hood ukuth unemnyka emgaki ufake negold tooth ayibandla
This Judge he's so buyer's he protect Gininda,when Gininda he's singing his song the Judge look smiling,when is the diffance time to sing the Judge change the face,this Judge must follow Mahumela he is a shity Judge
Ungabathengi uJudge?
Ramosepele is driving this ship to the possible getaway of the storm, he testing evidence to later argue tht it's a hearsay evidence even those gave it can't prove it, and then he will level with arguing against the confessions
ya uhlakaniphile uRams uhlakaza amanga mmm ingabe uMbhekiseni Ntanzi u safe yin ukuza
I follow ramosepele to the tee.. he is on point... He has poked holes so far
👏🏿 brilliant indeed
I'm so impressed after lunch,he was asking the questions.
Who ever did mshololo's hairstyle must be prosecuted😮
lol 😂
That hair style cost 5K 😁
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My memory is very sharp 😅 Adv Ramosepele is tired of being soft at last
How can you tell someone is 25 years old just by looking at them
My question exactly😊
😂😂😂😂
Worst ebusuku
I wonder how old are u for asking such question
That maybe we can gv benefit of doubt but seeing a gold on tooth during the night 😂😂😂😂
🗣Wooooow Ntanzi is smart and listens👌🏿🔥pidipidi ga swabê 'warning' for the what🤷🏿♀️mr colluding ke seeleele o delay case wa enjoy coz his mokhukhu is boring him🚮
This case is a rehearsal, all these years it was all about rehearsing and the investigation is dependant on the statements not on what said in court according to Gininda, even the confession was rehearsed also
Yeah, if you don't know the law, stay away from it because you will have a problem. You are having it now.
I like it when he says.... my lord I was not there 😂😂😂😂😂 oh what a joke... a whole lead investigator
@@ConnieMorake that one makes lose hope on him, he is having nothing to prove as leading investigator🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Absolume Nhlanhleni Zungu,we want you in court...you and your son fabricated this story
What makes judge Ratha assume that the witnesses might be missing or dead?
Team Gininda kills most witnesses
Because key witnesses mostly killed who differed with statements made by the people in the house😅(It a joke they use to Gininda because he never provide death certificates)
He knows that mdala Zungu might have forgotten the statement and there is a likelihood that a delete button might have been pressed 😂😂😂😂😂 sorry
i think we must look for the person who taught Gininda the english words "in so far as part of the evidence is concerned my Lord..." and the one who taught Ramosiphile "I am indebted my Lord" 😂
Gininda one can tell...furthermore my lord....😂
If you didn't go to law school you wouldn't know what being indebted to the court means obviously
@@blessings991 take jokes.
@@JackMogotlo-b5o exactly 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JackMogotlo-b5o 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There was no intruder, longwe know who kill senzo, and the people was with longwe in the car know what was happening in the house finished...... Mapiri, Themba Khumalo and makhumalo must come and testify, Kelly is last one 😒😒😒
It's seems u know the truth sir...please come forward..remember the law works with evidence...law not it's pap and meat by the way..
It is exactly the reason why prosecution abandoned the other important witness "lady who is said she cleaned the scene of crime" and the lady on her own she's willing to come and set the record straight inter alia she wants to clear her name by saying ÷
a. No intruders came into the house, the people who were in the house were enjoying themselves drinking alcohol;
b. Like many other occasions they started arguing and fighting amongst themselves, some days the argument and fight ceased, they'll continue drinking alcohol, but on the night in question the fight ended very bad with senzo been shot and killed,
c. All of them knows that Longwe has a gun, and he flashed it out whenever there's a disagreement, perhaps it's been put on table during their enjoyment time or eating sessions;
d. Between longwe and kelly one of them killed senzo, and zandi wanted to talk that's the reason why sisters were hating eachother,
e. By removing Advocate Teffo from this case that's when everything goes to south, he was coming to the core of the matter,
f. I am a friend of their mother "makhumalo" and reliable neighbour, she called me after the whole thing happened;
g. On my arrival there senzo's body was already been removed, and the house was cleaned up blood from the floor;
h. I asked her what happened she said iyooo this children put me in trouble as you can see they've been fighting and senzo got injured, the house was mess you can see that there was a big fight;
h. I began to pack up things, not to clean but to put things in order;
i. Even if they were asked me to clean, i would have asked a hand and foot price for cleaning blood "just saying"
j. When they called me, they were already back from hospital, all of them were so weak and confused;
k. Now listening to zandi in court says she fought people with a gun, it was all fabrication the manner in which she said it one can see that those people who were fighting knew each other, no one can bravery fight an armed thug;
l. According to what i observed Longwe is the one who shot senzo;
m. Their reason to call me was to get a scape goat, so it can be said the lady "neighbour" cleaned the blood.
Those are the words of the lady, she further said
1. I was hurt by Senzo's mom when she asked Kelley's mom why the lady cleaned the scene, because i didn't clean it, i found it cleaned,
2. I was surprised why Kelly's mom failed to tell who cleaned the house.
All this statement is on a podcast, anyone curious go and view, listen to it.
@RanjiniThukulukanam who said is pap and meat ??????
Zungu says he was with them at the hostels, and his father says he has been told and report to the police this is nonsense
amanga akwaZungu ngiyawesaba buka nje ixhegu lakwazungu lizovukwa ushukela ngamanganje yooo
Listing is a skill.
No listing skill is wrong. understand.
@@nokuthulacebekululol lutho Zungus solved this case uskhumbuzo is getting a promotion as we speak uyosebenza e coldcase unit
😂😂the evidence is not evidencing😂😂😂 after the first shot, the guy with dreadlocks came passed the car running to the park, after that shot..the second shot followed...so endlini bathi it is the guy with dreadlocks who shot Senzo, so wayephuma agijime aye-park aphinde abuye ezodubula? Again kanti ubani lona ababemshaya..noma wayebaleka abuye abuye baphinde bamshaye?...and where did longwe went to after intruders get inside the house coz kuthiwa kukhona obekade egadile abanye belinde ngaphandle nge-Polo eli-Grey....this cooking is not cooking
@SiyabongaMthethwa-jm7dr don't rush let me dish it to you real quick
1.A polo arrives and drops off 3 nkabis by the electric box
2.They enter the house Longwe pushes them as planned with the mastermind that they will excuse Longwe but that will start a scuffle
3.2 shots are fired inside the house and Ntanzi runs out
4.Muzi enters the house carrying a 38 revolver, and Maphisa enters the yard as well but he finds that everything went well .he helps Mncube pick up the cartridges
5.Mncube,Maphia,Sibiya are running out, but Maphisa fires the last shot in the air to scare neighbors as they fled to the getaway vehicle, which was at the park .The evidence is corroborated. ALLEGEDLY
I have said it, that Brigadier will be saying "i have dealt with that my Lord" during cross-examination trying to get court protection. Court is silent phez'kwakhe Advocates, that's why you robed and picked up a linen 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Mr Coraboration thought he got everything under control until cross examination 😅😅😅
I'm trusting Ratha all this gamez they try to play he looks at 🤞🤞🤞
Gininda is king
Yes indeed king of lies 😂😂
Nxumalo always looking confused
Absalom wrote a statement and used words like "Subsequent to that" 😂😂😂
So Mr subsequent wrote the statement 😂😂😂😂😂
Uyabona lendavundavu kaGinyinja izophela uma kudlulwa kuRamosepele, kuzoxatshwana naye
Brigadier Gininda is holding this defence council with Balls and they can’t deal with this level of intelligence 😂👌🏽
Tell me you are joking please
@ “it takes a domkop to see one of their own ,while it takes a clever person to see another “
This cross examination should involves around Gininda testified about in court and defend their clients
What Gininda investigate in this case
Nothing
Nothing he only cooked n plant evidence.
He investigated.... I was not there my lord
He investigated.... I was not there my lord
Is there a way for defence to check the date when brigade certified old Zungu statement that his trips colloborate with him being at nongoma at that time. I want to see something
U Adv.Mshololo akakhumule bo ijazi lingamezelisi.ngithemba niyangizwa lapho emuva
This witness has long stories to narrate if he won't right a novel in his life time then it will be taboo 😂
Who had dreadlocks between Ntandzi and Muzi?🤔
None of them,Mthobisi (3) is the one who had dreadlocks
@@khulukhumalo4453and the description says short dreads, but accused had long, very long dreads
Basically the description from Nthabiseng and the eye witnesses who were in the house none of their descriptions matches accused 3 dreads size
@@Ms_Mankothamyiko phela esenza lama confessi anolile ane hearsay egobile
Longwe
😂😂😂 ramosepedi and nxumalo Even if they are Free of charge I won't take them to go defend me in court 😂😂
They r shaking 😂
😂😂😂 by mentioning "free of charge" one can understand your level of knowledge. In RSA there's no lawyer that can appear in court on behalf of anyone for free, you may not personally fund their services, but the application you forwarded to LAB upon it's approval, they are paid on your behalf. Next time try to do some research before you embarrassed yourself 😉
@kingphoka-uf5tk what does the term " pro Bono " mean?
@@kingphoka-uf5tkdon't try to create an argument he is referring to that lawyer that is being paid by the legally aid. He's trying to say he can't hire them and even when the legally aid is paying them he can't accept them this how i understand him
@@kingphoka-uf5tk lecture from temu 🤣🤣🤣🤣he's trying to claim as if he knows the law🤣🤣🤣 you're just a useless parent if you do have child
LeJaji iyakhekheleza, irhola mahala😂😂😂😂😂😂😂....Jufge Ratha Mokgoathleng has humour....he is a funny character.....15/11/2024
This case doesn't make sense the introdu demand cellphones and the BMW is outside Nop
Can the judge stop drumming or tapping with his pen and fingers on the table. It's very distructive, he does this in every sitting but only when the defense crosses 😮
3 back males one with a fire arm
Longwe twala 1st one with the gun in his after shooting 2nd black male mtkosisi 3rd black male the one mtkosisi said followed him
Longwe was ints there
Where r u guys getting this information
Apparently Longwe came with 2 friends that waited for him in the car, angazi kodwa allegedly
ngoba i hearsay leyo so akukho 3man la gedeeee
@snenhlahlancanana2436 makes sense, but the difficulty is as early as 4 days after the incident law enforcement was investigating suspects as far as Nongoma, KZN while the murder took place in Gauteng......surely this is suspicious.
Gininda is still gonna sweat and continue to dismantle the case.
Yhoo my grandfather loves senzo
💔😭😭😭😭🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Lendoda yentshebe isesqongweni iginqa amatje, kuzowa indoda laaa kukhale uZungu 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥Team defense phez'kwabo
Yhoo my grandfather loves szoe
Aibo is Advocate Mngomezulu still sick😭😭😭
He might be making investigations under ground for all the defense. My thinking
Where are you @Mzanzi unfiltered , Photo altered come come come come come
Neeeverr, Ramsopele memory is poorest I have observed that😊
The right people are in court. But KK must also be included in this case😊
You are rite
Wavele wayimosha
Which right people?
Go sleep.. you are day dreaming 😂😂😂😂
This case will continue forever😢 unfortunately 😮
It's nice to dream sometimes cos it shows you had a nice sleep 😂😂😂😂
‘In as far as’ ‘corroborate’ 🤦♀️
And subsequent to verbatism 😂😂😂😂
@ 😂😂😂
Is this Cross Examination or Evidence in chief 3:04:33
What is Adv Mshololo done to her head 😮
Waybophisa iyngane Ramosepili...
yiphi😂😂😂😊
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Gninda is an honest man. He is also an intelligent and knowledgeable❤❤❤
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Moeketsi and Makalini describes the same 3 men , witness 2,3 and 4. That is facts.
Ncube did not have gloves. Why couldnt Gninda took fingrrprints from the phone.?
Ku dlaliwe nge khanda lika Mshololo
Ramose pele. Is waisting time here actually he is scared of Gininda mxm
The guilty are afraid..Gininda is the boss
❤ is true
Your boss not us
Ramsipili's report card F. Failed😢
Kkkk yooo gininda he can sing
ay ungixakile namhlanje esephika ukuthi kodwa yena waphwnyani kanti
adv mshololo she's filling sleep in court😂😂
Waste of our tax money
I'm sure the one who dd our advocate Msholololo's hair style is believing the nonsense story of the state and the corrupt Gininda ngoba wow udlalile ngaye shem
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Ramsipili must improve his reading. Read stop read😂
Phekwabo Gininda
Ramosepele to Baloyi:Im coming there you overshot.
I'm other words ulamawala Baloyi.😂😂😂😂
The one bigger physice member i suspect its one of the accused and accused No..............Even you, you must figure out for yourself....14/11/2024
Baloyi hasn't lost a case😂
Please guys just relax. Kelly's bribe is over and that the said accused life was in danger, fearing that his co accused would have him killed he then decided to confess after being warned and told that the same confession might be used against him in a court of law, and now that he's still getting bribed by Kelly together with the defence team and that can't reverse the irreversible confession and at same time Kelly's source of money has been getting smaller and smaller by the day to a point that she might end up giving up and decide to becy a fugitive. The worse part is the accused individualsm, they publicly display that they are still in the money flashing their lifestyle, they can't hide what Kelly is pumping into their pockets, they keep themselves looking expensive in big brand names i.e. Fabiani. I wonder how how much they got in total, so don't worry when Gininda testify how accused 2 implicated 34&5.
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Waze wanesi stress uMshololo kunzima ukumela umbulali
The problem with this case is the family of the accused also know what happened. The whole family was discussing this issue
Relatives actually speaking about the evidence so it’s strange how the relatives know details of the case
Zandile Khumalo Mapopola😂😂
Mamphiri statement she said when heard first shot she saw some gus running ok this statement she makes in 2014 😂ok by 2020 confesion he said when first shot was fired he run away 😂 but people keep on saying the case was cooked 😂
What can stop Gininda and his friends to say that Ntanzi confessed along the same lines of Phiri's lady statement that she wrote in 2014?
@@masheshisaZA the confesion is admitted my guy is part of the evedince
The more I listen to this the more I am convinced about collusion between the accused and some people in the house. 1. Common photo of money bag found in one of the accused's phone and some that were in the house. 2. Claiming that the victim's phone was found at the house whereas it was pinging at the hospital 3. The issue if a hat which never contained the DNA of any of the the accused 4. Contradicting descriptions of culprits 5. Claiming with precision thst the gun used was a .38 revolver whereas the bullet specimen was different and pointing to a pistol 6. Failure for one of those in the house to declare all the phones they owned. 7. One of the accused claiming in their confession that they were with some people who were actually in prison at the material time 8. Cleaning of the scene. 9. Sim swaping of the victim's phone. So many contradictions
I admire Mr Ramosepele's work ethic....he displays diligence, passion and determination.....but it will seem here he is flogging a dead horse coz the confessions already admitted have a very negative impact on his client's case.....Note made on 14/11/2024
Provisionally admitted. Ratha still gathers evidence he will scrap those confessions off ... mark my words 😂
This witness Brig BN Gininda is so far the best witness in this case.....guys you can butcher me wnd fire at me from all angles but thats what i believe in...and i doubt if i will ever change....14/11/2024
You are not alone, he is telling it as it is.
Ok, if you say so and am sure you don't doubt state evidence, but you'll understand one day....just wait for the defense witness to take a stand...
@@OsbornFf Which defense are you talking about, Ramsopele is a joke, Mncube so-so, Mshololo spurious arguments just a loud bang, Mnisi perhaps but all the defense are very weak.
Offenders will rarely accept any guilty, especially whenever they see a chance of winning the case.
Psychologically I believe the 5 accused have a hand in the death of Senzo. So far Ntanzi has been proven wrong many a times, ask yourself Why does he lie if he is innocent? Why did accused 3 deny that he had dreadlocks, and why removing them? Even accused no. 1 all lies.
Advocate Nxumalo 😂😂😂😂😂
#in so far
As we wait for mr nonsensical hogwash mnisi
5:13:54 rams is not interested 😂😂😂🙃🙃🙃
Defence attorneys are confused. They are delusional. Drifting😢😢😢
labameli babosha isikhathi
Eyi mabesasi bosha iskhathi bayeke mf2 baqhubeke baboshe yabo
Dim light could not help with description. But could identify height eg tall ,, short 😮
As early as 4days after the murder there were suspicions that the killers were from KZN, Nongoma.....saw this on an old News bulletin.
A friend of mine named Banzanero Masiye claims to know that Senzo’s wife Mandisa Mkhize planned to deal with Kelly.
So???? 🤔
Tell him or weeskoppies is not full still admitting patients
So what must we do with this useless information?
This same court has been using documents from other accused cases. So the photos can’t be used accordingly to baloyi. Ai
Documents, like?
@@africanprince3254if you’re following the case, you should know Mjiyakho
No. That’s not what Baloyi was saying. He was saying they need to call the person who took the photos
@@ngqabuthodube2068did he call mjiyakho or zungu’s dad? Why is that partial?
I see you don’t understand the law of evidence.
Is Kholobarate saying they only started knowing about accused 3 after the "confessions"?
Kanti when did Zungu tell him the hostel story?
Ramosipile is so boring..even his client is bored..
🤣true, he is such a pity Lawyer
That question was correct the office use the same information to arrest the suspect
Ke di Lawyers ka di chiskop😂
Mokiste is correctly describing suspect 1 Ncube, suspect 2 Ntanzi, and suspect 4 was Khanye😢
@@abudlkader927kanye not khanye
It's a uniform for males 😂😂😂😂😂
Amanga a Ntanzi ayinkinga uphendula ummeli isilima yoo!abantu athi umsulwa umbuzo uthi amanga angaka awani
Their lies are too much to remember
2:41:10 Kholobarate says he wouldn't have checked for tattoos because none of the statements mentioned anything about tattoos.
Perhaps I missed it during the truckload of evidence given in court. Can someone with a sharp memory assist me here. Did any statement say one of the "intruders" was injured in the foot? It is Manganye and Kholobarate's evidence that they went around inspecting the accuseds' feet.