Brig Gininda, thank you for doing your job delegently and still maintain your mannerism through and through. Today the proceedings were of high level, no disrespecting and pulling of educational levels, thank you Adv Ramasepele for your wisdom, you always show your brilliance without shouting. If it was a movie i would say you are my favorite actors, unfortunately a life was lost and some people may go to jaiil. I wish the truth can lead this case to the real killer of Senzo
@@NtombikayiseDanisa one day it will, Senzo was killed by someone who was in the house if your Gininda was honest he would push that Kelly’s get arrested he didn’t his even trying to confuse Adv Ramasepele by not answering a questions , the last question he was asked if he didn’t speak to accused number 3 about the picture which was in Kelly’s , Longwe and him cellphones , He couldn’t answer why because he didn’t do his job ,The blood of Senzo will not be silenced by anyone and the truth will come out
In his statement he said he had a warrant of arrest but the prosecutor did not approve or something like that, but why are you sure that these people who were arrested were not sent by Kelly
@ who is that prosecutor I which someone will ask the name of the prosecutor who did approved the arrest of the mastermind mind , that prosecutor needs to be investigated as well
@@jackieasandamsolo7582 Ramasepele is one Legal representative shows intergrity and vast knowledge of his work. With this case, he will receive calls offering him cases. I can recomend him.
The after they are sentenced they must get some if not all of the accused who will confess against kelly all this evidence is enough to get her away for a very long time .Allegedly
They didn’t do it , they should stick to the first thing they said unless they are lying, you can’t tell two things when you are telling the truth full stop 🛑
Lol they did it if not answer why they elected not to put their defence when they pleaded not guilty ?they are tailoring their evidence as they go on hence every version they've placed on the record has been rebutted by the state 2.These kazis said they've never met 3.The famous one who won our hearts said he was out paying lobola and we supported him yena he took a stand and changed that story akaze walobola muntu uNtanzi 4.Mncube was described even the clothes he was wearing that day bese kutholakala ukuth isbhamu sakhe is a match for senzo.I'd like to thank the Zungu family for their quest to revenge kube asaz namanje ukuth ukelly uthengele uSenzo izinkabi asizwe wu Longwe ,zandi and her mom ukuth ba planne.Allegedly
@ so which all what you are saying you think that those accused a involved of killing SENZO for what reason??? Maybe you know something I don’t know, please convince me @Chibvunza
TRU THE PROBLEM IS THAT A LOT OF US... HAS TAKEN A SIDE... SO ITS VERY DIFFICULT TO BE LISTENING OBJECTIVELY. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BASING THEIR POSITION ON CONSPIRACIES... NOT EVIDENCE... AND GININDA IS BASING HIS PRESENTATION ON EVIDENCE.
Lol Gininda will not change any story he will instead turn the tables on the defence by saying the statements of witnesses all of them never saw which gun fired the shots in the house but they all ran for cover as a result when the fatal shot was fired only Kelly,Makhumalo and Christian saw the gun that killed Senzo .Kelly refused for her son to be interviewed and Makhumalo is scared of her if you saw them on their reality show those 3 are the ones who were there until the end ,but Zungu x2 confirrmed that the 38 didn't have bullers .Ntombizodwa Ndaba the ex gf Muzi tried to shut her mouth because she threatened to talk and he'scurrently serving 12 yeears in Jail.Allegedly
@jonasmanchi6481 Mncube pulled the trigger he got described by 2 of Kelly's neighbors that were not in the house and Kelly had a dirty cop that notified her about all the statements in the docket and had those 2 young boys killed .She even knew of a statement from Sangoma that she went to for cleansing and Kelly got her picked up by cops to assault her and told by her cops "if you dare go to court and testify we will kill you ".Allegedly
@malopo99 lol ay ninenkan yezwa? why would Ratha be scared of Chicco ?don't tell you believe thr allegations by the clown presenting this show that Ratha is related to Ramaphosa ,that Baloyi is related to Chicco ,that Mnisi is related to Gininda and that Mshololo is working for the state lol .Nidom.Allegedly
The revolver might be unlicensed and the owner knows very well that he will also be going to jail alongside those who were in the house including the police,the prosecutor and all who played a role in this cover up.
He found out too late ,section 205 lapse after 3years and by 2020 when he wanted to follow up information on the confessions of accused that Kelly called them and kept Senzo in the house until they arrived .Popia act was also in place unlike in 2014 and I'd believe that Kelly hated Senzo especially if you listen to her videos after she found out that Senzo had been lying to her about a whole wife he's hiding in Kzn .Also Senzo's mom didn't wana accept her and going to radio stations telling them how much Kelly will cause her a heart attack,Kelly is already pregnant and Senzo sneaks out to go to Mandisa whom he said they broke up .Senzo ufele umjolo .Allegedly
@pearlkhumalo2468 Kelly hired nkabis to kill senzo to be specific. The one who pulled the trigger was again described in court .He is exactly as described just put dreadlocks ,goldtooth uzobona kukhulunywa Mncube ,solitary made him lighter .I've seen your spelling mistakes. I can now confirm that you are Zandile khumalo .So I wana say the theory you go around spreading that Kelly was the target is baseless if it was true why did Kelly wipe her phone immediately after her phone was confisticated by cops ?if it was Mandisa who hired the nkabis, why didn't she wipe her phone, but it's Kelly who wiped her phone ?why did Kelly pull Senzo back ukuth ayovalelisa umamakhe and then delay them ngoba azi ukuth izinkabi zisendlelen ? .Allegedly
Why only 2 numbers ? Why not all numbers, you are hiding the truth Gininda , why engawadalulanga it’s because she knows the truth , arrest kelly sothat this case will be solved
@@tinnyndlovu5395Kelly will be arrested the day these accused testify against her .The state was betting on Ntanzi to turn state witness but the boy got threatened by Ntuli and he made a U turn .Allegedly
ON this case the problem is Kelly why Kelly said this en this but she is not called or arrested fuc we are tired of Kelly said this en that bring her please to finish this case
@OscarMotlokwa she is free and busy mocking Senzo s mom on videos 😢 haii south africa is a joke when you are poor its quick to get arrested the rich will remain free
Gininda is lying.How can he have the second docket and fail to study it while it is in his possession. He is trying to dodge but there is a high wall in front.
Andivumi tuuu ...this is the most compelling witness and most damaging to the defence, he knows finer details of the case as he investigated it, m not in anyway saying the accused are Guilty, but his evidence is straightforward....8/11/2024
@@jaimokwena8497 he didn’t answer the question he tried to explain to cover his lies , why did he answer straight about talking to Kelly and Longwe about the picture of bag of money in their phones when comes to accused number 3 he has to tell stories, a question was the same like he was asked about Longwe and Kelly , did you ask accused no3 about a phone of the bag of money which in his phone the answer was simple yes or no
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us Gwabini was introduced just to disturb the case, let the court just steak to GININDA & KELLY, MAKHELWANE,LONGWE even Kelly's mom.
What's puzzling is if Senzo was protecting KK or Zandi,he would be in front of the said person. The bullet went through his body and into the door. How come the person behind Senzo did not get shot?😢😢😢
The police could not get the contents in the accused phones. They said they did not know the passcode or pattern yet they had accused persons in custody. And i have never seen a phone which respond to the computer while locked. It has to respond to the computer software as to download whatever in the phone, therefore one you connect a usb cable it asks to allow on the phone. When it is locked it won’t allow, it has to be unlocked first.
There must be a culture in the legal field to get sloshed every Friday afternoon. These lawyers always find a reason to adjourn at lunch or earlier every Friday.
Longer had the picture of the bag containing the money, Kelly had the same picture and also Accused number 3 happened to have the same picture. Accuser number 3 was said to be selling drugs, Kelly was taking drugs and longwe was and still taking drugs 😮😮
THE PROBLEM IS THAT... WE GOT SO MANY EXPERTS... IN THIS CASE... WHO AREN'T IN REALITY NOT EXPERTS... BECAUSE IF THEY WERE REALLY EXPECTS... THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BASED EVIDENCE... NOT HEAR SAY.
There is no factual evidence that the accused were in the house that day. Only hearsay evidence. No DNA was found even on the bullets found in the house .
I agree we might not have a real jury sitting in court proceedings everyday like the Americans do ... But believe you me people are the jury out there because we can replay the videos to be clear on all testimonies and as the jury we already can see what is at play here
If people said they saw the revolver, why didn't he as the investigating officer look for a revolver and mix with other types of pistols then ask them to identify exactly what they saw. That's what investigation is about not defending rubbish
If they were picked-up by. Moleleki tower, then they were headed back to Mazibuko hostel in Katlehong......where Mncube and Maphisa had visited before going to Lesedi, Vosloo.
3:10:30 Now that LS Twala saw the scaffold between Senzo and the suspect. Kanti who is this LS Twala? After hearing a short he ran out to look for help.
Facts and fluent English are 2 different things The statements says the second intruder had a gold tooth, the dentist said he never had one. Gininda is relying on Styn evidence that accused 5 was communicating with Kelly via WhatsApp when Styn saw that he was wrong he said via bbm. Accused 5 said he didn't have bbm. Vodacom as the custodian of this alleged calls doesn't have the record of these alleged calls in their system but Styn have them through the throwing of bones analysis. Gininda is relying on Zungus testimony which contradicts itself. Zungu told the court that he was with the 5 accused before and after the incident but he told the brigadier that the source of this infor was his father who heard the accused speaking. What is the truth. Gininda is relying on the lies of the police who denied that they went with Ntanzi in Alberton and Bara. When the AVL documents were read in court they confirmed that they were there almost the whole night in Alberton. Where is Mjiyako if this case is about truthfulness. Why was Longwe not on the witness list. Why was Tumelo's section 205 not in court. Kusazoshuba
There is mountain of evidence qa we dont want to see, from celphone analysis puttinf them very close to the crime scene. The eye witness identifying them to the t, the gun, the bag of money, Zungu, the confessions hay kona ekaNtanzi ibanika udilika jele. So guys we can insult everyone. Kodwa there is too much evidence to be ignorant. Kutwa imali iyafana kodwa blood money iyathetha. Some children grew without parents ngenxa yabafana. Igazi lomntu liyateta. Even them can feelBrig Ginindas pinch bamnyama ngk, bayeke nokuhleka kushubile. NDIYACELA SIBLINGS NINGANDITHUKI NAWE BALA EYAKO IMBONO.
So Gininda says the witnesses in the house who said they saw a revolver,they don't know the type of guns,yet he want us to believe that the gun used to kill Senzo is a 33 Special
These thuuuuugs keep changing they think we are kids,what is so special ka nyatsi ya seganana a sa tshwarwa le banna ba coz a re ke mastermind?Only the khumalos sanpe ba tshela ba bangwe mmanyana ba bolailwe why?why?😭💔
Which thuuuugs? You must specify: The (i) prosecution team??? OR The (ii) tavern master??? OR (iii) coached blubbering club in the box??? OR (iv) Who exactly????😮
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 don't be blind-folded... until you know how the world goes around, then you're not in the position to engage me. I'm dealing with cases on a daily basis in my line of duty, one! Two... both in my personal life... my legal background and my line of duty in the Legislature. I am not supporting any side in this case, but I'm standing for the administration of justice and my commentary is an advocacy for justice to be seen to have done. Either way... the accused in this case, my dear sister, in case you didn't know... they are innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt??? 1. What do you make of a "missing accused no:6? 2. What do you of mysterious deaths of witnesses, both on 375 and 636 respectively? 3. What do you make of the biasness and impartiality of the judge... or shall we say, Mr Know-it-All? 4. What is your take on the Investigating Officer who constantly changes his goal post according to his hallucinations and his bullying tactics... refer to the solitary confinement of accused 3 and 5? Take your time and get some snuff!!!
So this judge think we will stop giving our opinions and calling him to order when he say there are too many experts in TH-cam😂😂😂. We are in aquatic era, trasparency is the order of tye day in this era, censorship is long gone with apartheid days.
You're so forward,this case is going to an end and that will be when it be proven that they are involved and a warrant of arrest will then be issued.@@SiphindileKhanyile
Accused no3 is not yet sentenced as hitman but gininda is saying he saw the photo that is similar to the one on kelly and longwe, and thats not give him power to conclude on that is the money was used to pay him if, foto can not proved that indeed the money, he needs to support his assumptions
I'm so proud of my country South Africa. The constitution protect us from any unjust and improper conduct from anyone who may wish to stop us from actively participating through comments and any legally means.... Viva South Africa
Those who say Longwe killed senzo where it came from because hlophe said he heard From Tumelo Madlala but Tumelo denied it so where it come from 😂Baloyi and Ginninda the state is busy preparing the new position for them 😂they won this 😂
Why ..n who changed the investigators..tht means Gininda is the best of them all...remember thus 2 dockets..636 says accused killed Senzo...375 says who were in the house are accused..which one u go with..why they arrested Mr Mbatha from the first place...where did it dissappear the statement of senzo brother in law..why they just leave Tumelo if he says he didn't make a call telling Hlophe who killed Senzo...but the accused were beaten..Gininda didn't even check the cellphone which make tht call..why Tumelo was the only one who was under protection..later he's out..n now they says he denied making a call...why all those who were inside the house never called to give their vision of wht happened..they were not even checked the gun powder from their clothes..n remember how 9mm gun was taken out from sp13..it's a lot tht doesn't add up without a doubt from state investigation
Hating Gininda and Rata is just a waste of dripping a drop of blood in the sea 🌊 😂 .they hate is based on hearsay gossip. mfm even Tumelo denied the statement of Sifiso .
He is technologically impaired and they are exploiting that he believes data calls that don't exist ( no data call without network and thats a fact)... he doesn't knw meme's (am sure that photo of money was a meme) and he believes live stream is a podcast or vlog or whatever
If the common denominator is the money photo why arrest accused 3 ONLY leaving out Longwe and Kelly. It is cyrstally clear Longwe is being protected, In stead o f him being brought to court they bring a police officer to tell us about how his car was moving, Gininda did examine all the accused save no 5 for a wound on the ankle and yet an assertion that Longwe shot himself NO NO NO Longwe is not examined for the wound instead the investigators go looking for the doctors alleged to have treated him. Now we hear one of them is deceased. It looks like this case has so many dead bodies people dying under mysterious circumstances and ONE wonders why ???
Gininda is always trying to dive...He is also a brigadier but he don't know how to answer simple questions instead he gives us the whole of European history.😂😂😂😂😂
He's always dodging he knows thy cooked everything but there are lopeholes. The reason why ppl changed the statement to say thy don't know firearms thy were advised by him
If it was your brother killed. His girlfriend shares a pictture of money bag full of money with a person known to be a hitmenand also owning a gun that matches licence number of a gun used to kill some ppl in Taxi industry, will you say the same thing that its a yo brother girlfriend sharing pictures like anybody else?
Someone said Senzo was dealing in drugs and kelly wanted to take over the business that is why she tried making a Sim swap after Senzo s killing. So Senzo friend delivered the drugs from KZN then Kelly called this people to rop Senzo the drugs but it didn't go as planned that is why the people in the house store is not make sure.
What I like abt lies, they always find their ways of coming out. Now, Gininda says, there was a warrant of arrest to Kelly dat was not approved by Baloyi. The next episode will reflect Gininda vs Baloi & Kelly will be the witness revealing the real killer😂
The whole so called lead investigator dons not even know how many children were in the house 10 years later wow.... The problem of cooking and all his subjects Mogane and Mogola always said ask Gininda becoz they did not know
What a waste of time and state resources. This judge is not neutral , even the most stupid human being can see that. He is a witness and Baloyi's team member. Mxm where are other judges who can atleast talk sense to this judge to behave professionally.
Thanks Ramsy for highlighting the distance between Moleleki tower and Basotho hostel. A connection can not be made between the 2, BUT it can be established between that tower and the MAZIBUKO hostel where Mcube and Maphisa placed themselves on the morning of the 26th/ oct. KK's 'runaway ' phone pinged @ MOLELEKI tower @ around 10pm when they were headed back to MAZIBUKO hostel in Katlehong.
@@anniemanda-qh2sj they were told to lie because there were no intruders who came in at that spaza they must arrest Kelly than the truth will come out , the should arrest him today before someone offered her a holiday
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us ngithi there's still a possibility they did it .....and were picked-up by that tower while going back to MAZIBUKO not BASOTHO hostel.
The accused placed themselves @ MAZIBUKO hostel ....they claimed, they then moved to Lesedi , Vosloorus .....the latter is very close to Basotho hostel and KK'S home in Vosloo.
When I hear so many names mentioned of captains and other ranks I see all this people being called to restify It's not helpful to hear all this explanations The only thing we need as citizens is that the arrests of accused be completed so the truth can be found, that last accused left outside is interfering with other witnesses and this case will be delayed for another 10 years
Gninda doesn't have yes or no answer, he explains his answer to try to convince his Lord fingers
Brig Gininda, thank you for doing your job delegently and still maintain your mannerism through and through. Today the proceedings were of high level, no disrespecting and pulling of educational levels, thank you Adv Ramasepele for your wisdom, you always show your brilliance without shouting. If it was a movie i would say you are my favorite actors, unfortunately a life was lost and some people may go to jaiil. I wish the truth can lead this case to the real killer of Senzo
@@NtombikayiseDanisa one day it will, Senzo was killed by someone who was in the house if your Gininda was honest he would push that Kelly’s get arrested he didn’t his even trying to confuse Adv Ramasepele by not answering a questions , the last question he was asked if he didn’t speak to accused number 3 about the picture which was in Kelly’s , Longwe and him cellphones , He couldn’t answer why because he didn’t do his job ,The blood of Senzo will not be silenced by anyone and the truth will come out
You make lots of sense
In his statement he said he had a warrant of arrest but the prosecutor did not approve or something like that, but why are you sure that these people who were arrested were not sent by Kelly
@ who is that prosecutor I which someone will ask the name of the prosecutor who did approved the arrest of the mastermind mind , that prosecutor needs to be investigated as well
Most definitely..it can only be Baloyi
Get well Mr Mgomezulu
What i know Gininda will do as he pleases mo Ramosepele,come Mnisi,Mshololo and Mngomezulu,he will be humbled
Theres nothing special about those ones ethier, other then throwing insults and tuntrums.
He wasn't humbled during a tria within a trial what gives you confidence that he will now
@@jackieasandamsolo7582Exactly
I like how Ramosephele asks questions workout throwing insults and shouting.
@@jackieasandamsolo7582 Ramasepele is one Legal representative shows intergrity and vast knowledge of his work. With this case, he will receive calls offering him cases. I can recomend him.
If this guy's are the ones killed senzo arrest Kelly as a mastermind we will rest as a country if Kelly not arrested we will not believe from ginida
The after they are sentenced they must get some if not all of the accused who will confess against kelly all this evidence is enough to get her away for a very long time .Allegedly
She will be arrested soon after his hitmen sentenced
@glWhy because she should take a stand alongside themadysmkhize4085 That is a lie.
And then acquitted for lack of evidence..SA neh@@gladysmkhize4085
They didn’t do it , they should stick to the first thing they said unless they are lying, you can’t tell two things when you are telling the truth full stop 🛑
Lol they did it if not answer why they elected not to put their defence when they pleaded not guilty ?they are tailoring their evidence as they go on hence every version they've placed on the record has been rebutted by the state 2.These kazis said they've never met 3.The famous one who won our hearts said he was out paying lobola and we supported him yena he took a stand and changed that story akaze walobola muntu uNtanzi 4.Mncube was described even the clothes he was wearing that day bese kutholakala ukuth isbhamu sakhe is a match for senzo.I'd like to thank the Zungu family for their quest to revenge kube asaz namanje ukuth ukelly uthengele uSenzo izinkabi asizwe wu Longwe ,zandi and her mom ukuth ba planne.Allegedly
@ so which all what you are saying you think that those accused a involved of killing SENZO for what reason??? Maybe you know something I don’t know, please convince me @Chibvunza
@@pearlkhumalo2468 mali
Senzo died here, and those 5 are guilty
@pearlkhumalo2468 by not arresting kelly their case is weak😊
what are they waiting for,? she must come and testify in court
You think the state sizozwa ngawe? We are dealing ngale zinja for now
@@walterndlovu-f2f😂😂 Wena ugula nge nqondo straight
@@Lulu90345 Are you for real sweetheart?
@@walterndlovu-f2fizinja unyoko
@@njabulojb2994 Fortunately i won't stoop that low to your level. It shows ukuthi uphuma ekhaya elinjani 😂😂
He was busy "collobarating" nonsense🤣🤣🤣
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You are a disappointment to your brother Mr Hon Mabunda he has no time for criminals. Allegedly
@@Chibvunza Just like I don't have time for silly comments 👍🏽
IN ESSENCE OF THE VERBATISM COLLABORATION
SUBSEQUENT TO.😅😅😅😅😅
@@sindiswamabunda5627 🤣🤣🤣
Gininda finds out things are now getting hot and now attempts to clear his name 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tsotsi this one
Gininda never changed his statement. The statement that is read here is the 1st statement Gininda wrote.
TRU
THE PROBLEM IS THAT A LOT OF US... HAS TAKEN A SIDE... SO ITS VERY DIFFICULT TO BE LISTENING OBJECTIVELY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BASING THEIR POSITION ON CONSPIRACIES... NOT EVIDENCE... AND GININDA IS BASING HIS PRESENTATION ON EVIDENCE.
Only on his evidence and what about the other docket in question 375@@jonasmanchi6481
Lol Gininda will not change any story he will instead turn the tables on the defence by saying the statements of witnesses all of them never saw which gun fired the shots in the house but they all ran for cover as a result when the fatal shot was fired only Kelly,Makhumalo and Christian saw the gun that killed Senzo .Kelly refused for her son to be interviewed and Makhumalo is scared of her if you saw them on their reality show those 3 are the ones who were there until the end ,but Zungu x2 confirrmed that the 38 didn't have bullers .Ntombizodwa Ndaba the ex gf Muzi tried to shut her mouth because she threatened to talk and he'scurrently serving 12 yeears in Jail.Allegedly
This guy will fail exams he over explains and gives answer to a question that has not been asked
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@@nephatncube2248 uyaloqa Sana annoying
He is doing his final yeat
@NtombikayiseDanisa ufunda naye? Unjani eclassini?
@@nombuzoedithmahlangu3755Akadingi ukufunda naye, it was said in court. He is doing his final year, LLB by the way
WE NEED KELLY TO COME TO THE DOCK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, MR JUDGE RATHA THIS IS YOUR JOB TO ASK ABOUT THIS SIXTH ACCUSED
THE CASE NOW IS WHO ARE KILLERS... AND WHERE KILLER GUN IS... AND WHO PULLED THE TRICKER... BUT I DON'T THINK OTHER CONSPIRATORS WOULD NOT BE VISITED.
@jonasmanchi6481 Mncube pulled the trigger he got described by 2 of Kelly's neighbors that were not in the house and Kelly had a dirty cop that notified her about all the statements in the docket and had those 2 young boys killed .She even knew of a statement from Sangoma that she went to for cleansing and Kelly got her picked up by cops to assault her and told by her cops "if you dare go to court and testify we will kill you ".Allegedly
He will not,Ratha is pro state
Ratha won't, he fears Chicco 😂😂😂😂😂
@malopo99 lol ay ninenkan yezwa? why would Ratha be scared of Chicco ?don't tell you believe thr allegations by the clown presenting this show that Ratha is related to Ramaphosa ,that Baloyi is related to Chicco ,that Mnisi is related to Gininda and that Mshololo is working for the state lol .Nidom.Allegedly
Over Explanation answer a question once yes or no
He must answer the asked , in advocate Mnisi voice 😂
Mina i dont even need Kelly to be arrested , the really killer must be arrested which is Longwe or his bother Sello thwala
Mina I'm currently swinging like a pendant, confused like Longwe Twala. One moment I got it, and the next I DON'T!!!!
@@mazwideamahle4091 you're not alone😢
The real killer is Sello jnr
Yazi ini
Why can't she be arrested when she's the one who ordered the killing of Senzo?
The revolver might be unlicensed and the owner knows very well that he will also be going to jail alongside those who were in the house including the police,the prosecutor and all who played a role in this cover up.
Gininda when you found out that Kelly was involved why you didn’t get those phones to Kelly Gininda ???
GININDA HAD RECOMMENDED THAT KELLY BE ARRESTED... SO GININDA HAD NEVER PROTECTED KELLY OR ANYONE.
KELLY KHUMALO CELLPHONE WERE TAKEN...BUT SHE HIDE OTHER 4 CELL PHONES.
He found out too late ,section 205 lapse after 3years and by 2020 when he wanted to follow up information on the confessions of accused that Kelly called them and kept Senzo in the house until they arrived .Popia act was also in place unlike in 2014 and I'd believe that Kelly hated Senzo especially if you listen to her videos after she found out that Senzo had been lying to her about a whole wife he's hiding in Kzn .Also Senzo's mom didn't wana accept her and going to radio stations telling them how much Kelly will cause her a heart attack,Kelly is already pregnant and Senzo sneaks out to go to Mandisa whom he said they broke up .Senzo ufele umjolo .Allegedly
@ now you know the truth ukuthi u Senzo ufele umjolo ?? Tell us who killed Senzo than
@pearlkhumalo2468 Kelly hired nkabis to kill senzo to be specific. The one who pulled the trigger was again described in court .He is exactly as described just put dreadlocks ,goldtooth uzobona kukhulunywa Mncube ,solitary made him lighter .I've seen your spelling mistakes. I can now confirm that you are Zandile khumalo .So I wana say the theory you go around spreading that Kelly was the target is baseless if it was true why did Kelly wipe her phone immediately after her phone was confisticated by cops ?if it was Mandisa who hired the nkabis, why didn't she wipe her phone, but it's Kelly who wiped her phone ?why did Kelly pull Senzo back ukuth ayovalelisa umamakhe and then delay them ngoba azi ukuth izinkabi zisendlelen ? .Allegedly
Thank you Gininda Sir
Why only 2 numbers ? Why not all numbers, you are hiding the truth Gininda , why engawadalulanga it’s because she knows the truth , arrest kelly sothat this case will be solved
True.She should be so that this case will be easy to handle for Ratha.
Exactly. Long answers wont help. Why people from the house were not called to testify. Why Kelly was not arrested as a person of interest? WHY
@@tinnyndlovu5395Kelly will be arrested the day these accused testify against her .The state was betting on Ntanzi to turn state witness but the boy got threatened by Ntuli and he made a U turn .Allegedly
@@elizabethmakaleng267baloyi must answer this question but he become numb about it
I think Gininda is talking about what he knows, I don't know if it's true bt this guy just saying what was researched
At 1st i did doubt gininda but now i believe gininda after listening to him 😢
What do you believe after listening to him
U believe kelly killed Senzo?
Awusasangani ke nkosiyami 😅
🙃🙃🙃🙃 huh 🤨
@@boniwelushaba8222😂😂😂😂😂
Manje akaboshwa leni suspect no6
Ratha knows that we dont trust his stokvel now he is calling us experts 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦
ON this case the problem is Kelly why Kelly said this en this but she is not called or arrested fuc we are tired of Kelly said this en that bring her please to finish this case
@OscarMotlokwa she is free and busy mocking Senzo s mom on videos 😢 haii south africa is a joke when you are poor its quick to get arrested the rich will remain free
Will court sit today to hear the road ahead
Gininda is lying.How can he have the second docket and fail to study it while it is in his possession.
He is trying to dodge but there is a high wall in front.
Examination in chief: “I remember my Lord.”
Cross-examination: “I don’t recall my Lord.”
😅😅😅 youre correct what a crooked person. Yooh 😮😮😮
Andivumi tuuu ...this is the most compelling witness and most damaging to the defence, he knows finer details of the case as he investigated it, m not in anyway saying the accused are Guilty, but his evidence is straightforward....8/11/2024
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Uyaxoka themba
😂😂😂😂😂selective memory
Atleast Brig clears my mind bcoz it s been boggling
my mind, how could there be two dockets relating to murder of one person. Now I am clear
Did I hear Gininda correctly saying that Sifiso Zungu and Gwabini is one and the same person.
I thought i heard that also.
Indeed he said so ...8/11/2024
@@sushelarajkumar367 The Constable is Sizwe Zungu
Yeah but different person from Sifiso Meyiwa
Gwabini is a clan name(isthakazelo) for Zungus
This guy has to explain every question asked 🤦
If you lie, you don't answer yes or no, you explain too much coz you want to convince the asker😂
@@AndileKhumalo-kj6cstrue
@@AndileKhumalo-kj6cshis story doesn't change like the ones if the accused
He is weak, he needs a lawyer to tell him not to explain the question but to answer then he will be out easily
@@jaimokwena8497 he didn’t answer the question he tried to explain to cover his lies , why did he answer straight about talking to Kelly and Longwe about the picture of bag of money in their phones when comes to accused number 3 he has to tell stories, a question was the same like he was asked about Longwe and Kelly , did you ask accused no3 about a phone of the bag of money which in his phone the answer was simple yes or no
Advocate Rams should have a follow up on his questions based on the response of the witness..
90% of witnesses in this case are deased😮😢
Kubi
Where is Gwabini??? 8/11/2024
@ maybe he’s no more 🤣🤣
True
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us Gwabini was introduced just to disturb the case, let the court just steak to GININDA & KELLY, MAKHELWANE,LONGWE even Kelly's mom.
What's puzzling is if Senzo was protecting KK or Zandi,he would be in front of the said person. The bullet went through his body and into the door. How come the person behind Senzo did not get shot?😢😢😢
Mmmmmmmh🤔
Do u think the other person will stand still behind him while seeing a firearm struggle?
If you follow the case, there was a scuffle from the lounge that led them to end up in the kitchen were the shot was fired
Senzo wasn't protecting nor paying Lobola for anyone. That story was created to confuse the public.
@@mazwideamahle4091well said
The police could not get the contents in the accused phones. They said they did not know the passcode or pattern yet they had accused persons in custody. And i have never seen a phone which respond to the computer while locked. It has to respond to the computer software as to download whatever in the phone, therefore one you connect a usb cable it asks to allow on the phone. When it is locked it won’t allow, it has to be unlocked first.
maybe and that's a BIG MAYBE, data can be recovered from a wiped phone but hey I'm taking about technology in general nothing to do with this case
There must be a culture in the legal field to get sloshed every Friday afternoon. These lawyers always find a reason to adjourn at lunch or earlier every Friday.
Why Kelly & the once who clean the house not arrested?
Lapho u sjava kwavalwa ngisho ama concert but Kelly kumnandi nje kuye heeee ay
Gxabhashe angikuzwa kahle....8/11/2024
Longer had the picture of the bag containing the money, Kelly had the same picture and also Accused number 3 happened to have the same picture.
Accuser number 3 was said to be selling drugs, Kelly was taking drugs and longwe was and still taking drugs 😮😮
Viewers are the jury in this case
100%
THE PROBLEM IS THAT... WE GOT SO MANY EXPERTS... IN THIS CASE... WHO AREN'T IN REALITY NOT EXPERTS... BECAUSE IF THEY WERE REALLY EXPECTS... THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BASED EVIDENCE... NOT HEAR SAY.
There is no factual evidence that the accused were in the house that day. Only hearsay evidence. No DNA was found even on the bullets found in the house .
@@jonasmanchi6481 you dnt need to be an expert to witness such biased proceedings
I agree we might not have a real jury sitting in court proceedings everyday like the Americans do ... But believe you me people are the jury out there because we can replay the videos to be clear on all testimonies and as the jury we already can see what is at play here
If people said they saw the revolver, why didn't he as the investigating officer look for a revolver and mix with other types of pistols then ask them to identify exactly what they saw. That's what investigation is about not defending rubbish
two witnesses in the house said they saw a revolver as I remember but forensic investigators found 9mm pistol bullet project tiles at the crime scene
If they were picked-up by. Moleleki tower, then they were headed back to Mazibuko hostel in Katlehong......where Mncube and Maphisa had visited before going to Lesedi, Vosloo.
3:10:30 Now that LS Twala saw the scaffold between Senzo and the suspect. Kanti who is this LS Twala? After hearing a short he ran out to look for help.
So how did Longwe see the intruders wrestling with Senzo if he just pushed and ran out the house, and was the trigger for the scuffle.....I wonder!
Facts and fluent English are 2 different things
The statements says the second intruder had a gold tooth, the dentist said he never had one.
Gininda is relying on Styn evidence that accused 5 was communicating with Kelly via WhatsApp when Styn saw that he was wrong he said via bbm. Accused 5 said he didn't have bbm. Vodacom as the custodian of this alleged calls doesn't have the record of these alleged calls in their system but Styn have them through the throwing of bones analysis.
Gininda is relying on Zungus testimony which contradicts itself. Zungu told the court that he was with the 5 accused before and after the incident but he told the brigadier that the source of this infor was his father who heard the accused speaking. What is the truth.
Gininda is relying on the lies of the police who denied that they went with Ntanzi in Alberton and Bara. When the AVL documents were read in court they confirmed that they were there almost the whole night in Alberton.
Where is Mjiyako if this case is about truthfulness. Why was Longwe not on the witness list. Why was Tumelo's section 205 not in court. Kusazoshuba
There is mountain of evidence qa we dont want to see, from celphone analysis puttinf them very close to the crime scene. The eye witness identifying them to the t, the gun, the bag of money, Zungu, the confessions hay kona ekaNtanzi ibanika udilika jele. So guys we can insult everyone. Kodwa there is too much evidence to be ignorant. Kutwa imali iyafana kodwa blood money iyathetha. Some children grew without parents ngenxa yabafana. Igazi lomntu liyateta. Even them can feelBrig Ginindas pinch bamnyama ngk, bayeke nokuhleka kushubile. NDIYACELA SIBLINGS NINGANDITHUKI NAWE BALA EYAKO IMBONO.
Kelley khumalo she must arrested she defited ends of Justice
So Gininda says the witnesses in the house who said they saw a revolver,they don't know the type of guns,yet he want us to believe that the gun used to kill Senzo is a 33 Special
These thuuuuugs keep changing they think we are kids,what is so special ka nyatsi ya seganana a sa tshwarwa le banna ba coz a re ke mastermind?Only the khumalos sanpe ba tshela ba bangwe mmanyana ba bolailwe why?why?😭💔
Which thuuuugs? You must specify: The (i) prosecution team??? OR The (ii) tavern master??? OR (iii) coached blubbering club in the box??? OR (iv) Who exactly????😮
@abemosiuoa6449 o tla ema jalo ha o sa ba itsi 👐🏿
😂😂😂@@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 don't be blind-folded... until you know how the world goes around, then you're not in the position to engage me.
I'm dealing with cases on a daily basis in my line of duty, one!
Two... both in my personal life... my legal background and my line of duty in the Legislature.
I am not supporting any side in this case, but I'm standing for the administration of justice and my commentary is an advocacy for justice to be seen to have done. Either way... the accused in this case, my dear sister, in case you didn't know... they are innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt???
1. What do you make of a "missing accused no:6?
2. What do you of mysterious deaths of witnesses, both on 375 and 636 respectively?
3. What do you make of the biasness and impartiality of the judge... or shall we say, Mr Know-it-All?
4. What is your take on the Investigating Officer who constantly changes his goal post according to his hallucinations and his bullying tactics... refer to the solitary confinement of accused 3 and 5?
Take your time and get some snuff!!!
@@abemosiuoa6449The five accused
So this judge think we will stop giving our opinions and calling him to order when he say there are too many experts in TH-cam😂😂😂. We are in aquatic era, trasparency is the order of tye day in this era, censorship is long gone with apartheid days.
According to his lordship TH-cam is full of bunch of self proclaimed experts and those experts is me and you fellow viewer 😂😂😂
😂😂Yes its us
Yesterday Nandipa’s lawyer said the same thing about us😂😂😂
But him being here reading them comments mean he's interested in "nonsense ", y would you waste your time reading nonsense
I'm a commentator 😂😂😂😂
@@nosiphodlaminip 🤣🤣🤣
So NPA is corrupt according to Gininda, the way I see things here there is suppose to be 7 accused people here not 5.
They are trying by all means to put Kelly and Longwe under the bus but it's too late
@@AdmireMaramura I agree,
Is Gwabini still alive??? 8/11/2024
Where is mshololo bafowethu onolwazi cela angasize
But u want to approach Dr mbansane😒😒🤔
How many passed on, who were somehow involved in this case?
Several people passed away and all of them they had crucial information against people who were in the house
I can tell you now, Brig.Gininda conducted his investigations on this case like an amateur.
He framed these guys
Gninda for police commissioner.He diligently used all state resources to solve this case. He must be applauded.❤❤
I fully agree with you my brother 💯...we share same view...8/11/2024
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U must have completed grade R hence your sheer stupidity 😮😮
He didn't solve this case if the mastermind and Longwe are not arrested
You're so forward,this case is going to an end and that will be when it be proven that they are involved and a warrant of arrest will then be issued.@@SiphindileKhanyile
Accused no3 is not yet sentenced as hitman but gininda is saying he saw the photo that is similar to the one on kelly and longwe, and thats not give him power to conclude on that is the money was used to pay him if, foto can not proved that indeed the money, he needs to support his assumptions
Kusazoshuba la
Gininda went on to lay a charge, and Makhubo was arrested and acquitted later.
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☔ 8 November 2024.3:52 🤦.
I'm so proud of my country South Africa. The constitution protect us from any unjust and improper conduct from anyone who may wish to stop us from actively participating through comments and any legally means.... Viva South Africa
So Zungu and Gwabini is one and the same person?
Those who say Longwe killed senzo where it came from because hlophe said he heard From Tumelo Madlala but Tumelo denied it so where it come from 😂Baloyi and Ginninda the state is busy preparing the new position for them 😂they won this 😂
Why ..n who changed the investigators..tht means Gininda is the best of them all...remember thus 2 dockets..636 says accused killed Senzo...375 says who were in the house are accused..which one u go with..why they arrested Mr Mbatha from the first place...where did it dissappear the statement of senzo brother in law..why they just leave Tumelo if he says he didn't make a call telling Hlophe who killed Senzo...but the accused were beaten..Gininda didn't even check the cellphone which make tht call..why Tumelo was the only one who was under protection..later he's out..n now they says he denied making a call...why all those who were inside the house never called to give their vision of wht happened..they were not even checked the gun powder from their clothes..n remember how 9mm gun was taken out from sp13..it's a lot tht doesn't add up without a doubt from state investigation
Ratha you failing us Citizens of SA aga sies
Hating Gininda and Rata is just a waste of dripping a drop of blood in the sea 🌊 😂 .they hate is based on hearsay gossip. mfm even Tumelo denied the statement of Sifiso .
Not that you're gullible?
Your brain is like an egg of a fish in the sea cebzin😂
Its too late now dont try the truth is out.. we all know who killed Senzo 😢😢😢
Who was threatening him?
@@sushelarajkumar367 that person is not Longwe as everyone wishes 🙄
why is she still outside (kelly) and why is there no D.n.A found on the hat
I wonder why Gwabini was not called as a witness???? 8/11/2024
Ma thoughts exactly
I suspect, I may be very wrong, fear of reprisals...8/11/2024
Sfiso zungu n Gwabini one and same person
Ratha is a fool. This court sitting is live through youtube so wats his problem 😮
He is technologically impaired and they are exploiting that he believes data calls that don't exist ( no data call without network and thats a fact)... he doesn't knw meme's (am sure that photo of money was a meme) and he believes live stream is a podcast or vlog or whatever
Uyaloqa Gininda yhu
The defense has took off with fire.
Gininda thinks he is clever he linked them through the bag of money but then he makes a u-turn to steyn's evidence..He cant explain how
3:17:43 Jonas reads the details of the 4th witness… LS TWALA. What’s Longwe’s second name⁉️
Does he share the same name with his brother💥⁉️😅
Bayasijwayela laba serious
If the common denominator is the money photo why arrest accused 3 ONLY leaving out Longwe and Kelly. It is cyrstally clear Longwe is being protected, In stead o f him being brought to court they bring a police officer to tell us about how his car was moving, Gininda did examine all the accused save no 5 for a wound on the ankle and yet an assertion that Longwe shot himself NO NO NO Longwe is not examined for the wound instead the investigators go looking for the doctors alleged to have treated him. Now we hear one of them is deceased. It looks like this case has so many dead bodies people dying under mysterious circumstances and ONE wonders why ???
Gininda is always trying to dive...He is also a brigadier but he don't know how to answer simple questions instead he gives us the whole of European history.😂😂😂😂😂
He's always dodging he knows thy cooked everything but there are lopeholes. The reason why ppl changed the statement to say thy don't know firearms thy were advised by him
Even judge ratha knows what happened that's why he said on record on utube there are many axpets because he's watching utube at his house
Ratha knows that we don't trust his stokvel lol
There was no phone not recovered,meaning that there was no phone stolen.
The mentioned stolen picked up at Kelly's home before the incident and at Moleleki after the incident. That is proof there was a stolen phone.
Are you reffering to Vodacom pdf converted to excel for editing?@jackieasandamsolo7582
i hope nothing will happen to mr gininda until Wednesday, phela a lot has been taken away so they don't give their evidence
Judge Ratha thinks he is smart. We are sharing diffrent pictures even with people from other country like Mozamb. Does that means we are doing crime?
If it was your brother killed. His girlfriend shares a pictture of money bag full of money with a person known to be a hitmenand also owning a gun that matches licence number of a gun used to kill some ppl in Taxi industry, will you say the same thing that its a yo brother girlfriend sharing pictures like anybody else?
Someone said Senzo was dealing in drugs and kelly wanted to take over the business that is why she tried making a Sim swap after Senzo s killing. So Senzo friend delivered the drugs from KZN then Kelly called this people to rop Senzo the drugs but it didn't go as planned that is why the people in the house store is not make sure.
Ai tsek . Longwe killed senzo by mistake. Gininda took a bribe hence he is covering up
His voice went down now
What I like abt lies, they always find their ways of coming out. Now, Gininda says, there was a warrant of arrest to Kelly dat was not approved by Baloyi. The next episode will reflect Gininda vs Baloi & Kelly will be the witness revealing the real killer😂
Hi
The whole so called lead investigator dons not even know how many children were in the house 10 years later wow.... The problem of cooking and all his subjects Mogane and Mogola always said ask Gininda becoz they did not know
Sekuwu Steyn this Steyn that 😅… hhayi oGininda bandla 👏🏽😅
So the investigator is busy collecting deaths certificates
😂😂😂😂
What a waste of time and state resources. This judge is not neutral , even the most stupid human being can see that. He is a witness and Baloyi's team member. Mxm where are other judges who can atleast talk sense to this judge to behave professionally.
Mgomezulu was hit by a poison😢😢😢
I suspect too much phuza!
Gininda, Gininda 🤔😒
If the brigadier is telling what happened and its true and not fabrication then the case is going down with the 5 guys plus Kelly and longwe 😢
Funda Thembi mntanami😂😂
Thanks Ramsy for highlighting the distance between Moleleki tower and Basotho hostel. A connection can not be made between the 2, BUT it can be established between that tower and the MAZIBUKO hostel where Mcube and Maphisa placed themselves on the morning of the 26th/ oct. KK's 'runaway ' phone pinged @ MOLELEKI tower @ around 10pm when they were headed back to MAZIBUKO hostel in Katlehong.
Volovolo Giniman ...
The accussed and kelly are going down
Where is that Steyn???? Is it the one from Vodacom University???😂😂😂😂😂
He is some retired police officer
Igazi lika Senzo liyazilwela..... Yilwaaaaaaa Nzorie ungabayeki tuuuu😂
Its interesting how they all couldn't give description on suspect number 2 now all of sudden they know him and can't point suspect 1
@@anniemanda-qh2sj they were told to lie because there were no intruders who came in at that spaza they must arrest Kelly than the truth will come out , the should arrest him today before someone offered her a holiday
There was no indruder
Yook
Verbatism 😢😢😢😢 wrong word Brigadier, correctly to say Verbatim
Hawu principal 😊
Yes student. Hope you learned something new today?🤓 @MabuthoSoetland
English is not our Mother tongue guys plz forgive the member...8/11/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us Which member? Brig Gininda?🤓
No body is forcing anyone to speak other ppl's language. @@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
3:28 Vosloorus Hostel and Moleleki tower is in Katlehong are far apart from each other😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
But how far is Moleleki Tower from Mazibuko hostel, where the accused had visited before going to Lesedi Vosloo.....
Actually, if you headed to Mazibuko hostel from Vosloo, you'd have to pass Moleleki.
Therefore uthini mJ??? 8/11/2024
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us ngithi there's still a possibility they did it .....and were picked-up by that tower while going back to MAZIBUKO not BASOTHO hostel.
The accused placed themselves @ MAZIBUKO hostel ....they claimed, they then moved to Lesedi , Vosloorus .....the latter is very close to Basotho hostel and KK'S home in Vosloo.
UBaloyi usefunde ngendlela yokuthi akasakwazi noku pronounce u Nxumalo uthi "Ncumalo"
Baloyi is Tsonga, and from what I've heard they don't have 'clicks' so they pronounce it anyhow.
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When I hear so many names mentioned of captains and other ranks I see all this people being called to restify
It's not helpful to hear all this explanations
The only thing we need as citizens is that the arrests of accused be completed so the truth can be found, that last accused left outside is interfering with other witnesses and this case will be delayed for another 10 years