A nice video. No one ever talks about the kit lens, even though it is likely everybody's first lens, thus making it one of the most important lenses in photography. Canon does such a good job making inexpensive but effective lenses, and their kit lens gets the job done. I didn't realize that the new one was slightly slower on aperture, but realistically it won't matter. Neither lens is good in bad light, unless shooting fairly still subjects thanks to IS (I think both have 4 stops of compensation), so really I think it is splitting hairs on that. I would say that the new STM focus is the real big deal, given that it replaces the older lenses clunky and noisey focusing mechanism, making it quiet and smooth for video as well as stills (I think it even focuses faster than the older model too). That is a big improvement, one that I think outweighs the loss of about 1/3 of a stop on the aperture for two lenses that are not fast lenses anyway. One caveat on the STM though, it is focus by wire manual focus, and some don't like that. For a kit lens, it really shouldn't matter to most people, just putting that out there. Also, to anyone looking to trade up to the STM lens, don't buy this lens just for this lens. If you have the older kit lens it likely came with a camera that can't fully utilize the STM motor anyway. For stills it works on any camera, but for video you have to have specific Canon cameras to gain the advantage of silent focusing. Base models like the T6 do not have this feature, and this lens will still be noisey anyway. Older models like the T3i predate the silent focus for video (and AF in video too). If a new camera is in your future, it likely will come with this lens as long as it is not the base model (I currently recommend the SL2 as an inexpensive but still good camera). For what it cost new, you would be better to put that money into a new camera or a better lens (look into the Tamron or Sigma 17-50mm F2.8 models, or the Canon 17-55mm F2.8, or even the Canon 24mm F2.8 STM). Also, these kit lenses are available second hand all over the place for 50 to 100 bucks, if you are ok with that. So many of them just go unused, so it's a pretty safe bet. Mine just sits on a shelf, came with an 80D I bought, but I just have no need for it.
Thanks for the side-by-side comparison. The problem I have with the newer lens is the failure to focus as close as the earlier one. I do a lot of product photography for online sales, and I typically use an 18-55mm lens and a 100mm macro. I bumbled upon a Canon 77D at a pawn shop for a good price, and it had the newer lens with it. I found that with the older version, I don't need to switch to the macro as often, and that is huge. Therefore the newer lens is set aside and I mounted the older version on my 77D, along with another on an old SL1 on a copy stand. If the newer lens were able to focus closer, I'd be more likely to use it. For walking around taking nature photos, though, it might not matter as much, because I'd be more willing to switch to the macro lens. For my work/product photography, though, it's just so much nicer if I don't need to switch.
Chris, I value your reviews more than anyone else. You do such a fantastic job and answer every question I ever have. Please keep up your channel and never stop. Thanks again!
If I already have the new kit lens, would it make sense to get the Canon 17-55 2.8? In your review of that lens you said it was better than the kit lens, but of course you meant the older kit lenses, not the new 4-5.6.
Thank you for the review. I will mention I am surprised you left out one feature of the new lens that I find very useful. On the older model the lens rotates making a lens hood useless or worse, whereas the new version does not rotate, allowing the lens shade to perform it's function.
Believe it or not but I have made a lot of improvements in my photography decisions just by watching your videos. And I love the fact that you don't take any one's side.
I own and use an awesome but bulky Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 ...and I was looking for a compact lens when traveling lighter. The Canon 10-55mm f4-5.6 fits the goal but has a major problem... intensely obvious field curvature at shorter focal lengths. Unlike Canon's venerable 10-18mm EF-S kit lens, there is no extra depth to hide this effect (I can't simply focus longer to cover distant corners). At f/8 and 24mm, for instance, I need to focus at least 25 feet away to hold infinity corner sharpness, and by then, reasonably nearby foreground subjects are fuzzy. At ~32-55mm, the curvature is okay, but by then, there is no hope for holding both near and far focus, and the lens is probably best used as a short telephoto and close-up wide-angle. The final nail for me... image quality is workable, but lifeless compared to the Sigma lens.
Christopher, I really appreciate your reviews. They are an amazing resource. How would you say the EF-S 18-55 compares against the EF-M 15-45 in general quality terms?
Thank You so much for the video. I sold my 700D-kit some time ago and went for a 70D but I always missed that 18-55mm kit lens for it's insanely quick and silent AF. Now I already had my former lens in the cart but then stumbled upon your video. The new zoom-ring setup is a life-saver for me. For some reason that fully retracted 26mm position drove me nuts, back then hehe.
Thanks Christ, I was trying to make a decision by reading reviews at B&H and looking "customer photos" and I was going crazy. Now I Know what to do. Thanks a lot, and keep going!
I'd love to see a comparison between the 24mm pancake, the kit lens, and the 18-135mm lens, all shot at 24mm with the same settings. I'm most interested in how they compare in terms of sharpness, chromatic aberrations, and distortions. The 24mm pancake may be better in low light with the wider aperture, but is it also better than the kit lens in daylight/landscape conditions when I might be stopped down to f/8 or f/11? I know it can do things the others can't due to the wider aperture, but I'm really interested to know if it can do the same things they can do even better. Could do the same experiment in various lighting/conditions and see how they turn out when shooting the same subject at the same settings.
Christopher Frost Photography haha, yes, don't we all! Without a full video review, what's your opinion on it? Is one of them better than the others in terms of sharpness/clarity/color/etc.? I'm debating whether or not to buy the 24mm pancake. I don't really need it for low light or nicer bokeh since I tend to shoot outside, w/ aperture stopped down, during the day. I would get it though if it made better images than the kit lens under those conditions. I do wish it had image stabilization.
I'd choose the newer kit lens in every comparison shot but I have the older one, which isn't a good thing. 50mm 1.8 was a better choice for my merger needs. I'm adding a 24mm 2.8. I don't think my kit lens will see the light of day however having IS is desirable.
At 18mm the new lens has much more chromatic aberrations than the old lens with lots of color fringing that was not mentioned 5:50 Great Review with lots of great tests and detail - excellent! Thank you :)
I love your videos and the fact that you're using your Canon M3 from time to time. I bought this camera as my first "decent" one and can't decide wether to keep it or go for a 750D. The form factor and everything is nice, but it sucks that i need an adapter for EF-S lenses and the "missing" viewfinder bothers me. How come you use it even though you have way nicer cameras? Anyways, thanks for all the videos, they're great! Especially the intro is so nice and calm :D
I honestly don't know why canon made this lens. I mean, it nice to have a smaller, compact lens for traveling. (I can see this lens pair with the Canon 100D or the Rebel 1xxxD series) but i can't see anyone using this for anything else. What canon needs to do is start rebooting some of their legacy lens like the Canon EF-S 15-85mm 3.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon 17-55 F2.8 IS USM, and/or Canon 10-22mm F4.5-5.6 USM. I use to be a Canon user, but i recently switch to Sony's A7ii + Sony a6300. They are both excellent cameras for Video + Photography, but I do missed using my Canon; you really can't beat Canon amazing colors and their excellent lenses.
Hey, what would u advise for a video shooting (food channel on TH-cam)? I'm now using this kit 18-55mm one, not bad at all, but it really lacks a good zoom and bokeh...🙄 which is needed often to make some juicy videos of a ready meal... some advised to get a 2.8f at least, i.e. thinking more of a diaphragm, but I was thinking more of a focus length maybe, and get 18-135 for instance? I'd really appreciate your advise🙏Thank you!
Chris, you didn't mention it, but I noticed a difference in "true" focal length when doing the side by side comparisons. It looked as if the new version is slightly shorter (in comparison) at the same focal lengths.
Drake Leroy 👌I have the 50 f1.8, the 24 f2.8 & the old 18-55 f3.5-5.6 STM. Honestly, I forced myself to take a few pictures with the kit lens today - just because I never use it. I love the 24 & the 50, and the kit lens rarely comes out of my bag...
Chris, if you see this comment on your old video. Having looked at more than a few of your videos, the contrast on your test chart seems low for these lenses in relation to other tests you have done since. Having checked the Flickr images the colours and contrast also seem muted and muddy. I wasn’t sure if this was due to different exposure in the different tests or due to the quality of the lenses? Could I have your opinion?
@35mm the older lens (on the left) had a little bit more contrast in the center. All the other judgements were dead on though! I really enjoyed you putting the 2 side by side like this! You should do the same thing with crop sensor & full frame!!
I have recently found out that the 18-55 is actually not too bad. I just have the old one. I wondering if it's worth the money to get it in stm (I have the 50mm as an stm and the focus is considerably better than that of the old 18-55)
Hello Christopher, i'd need your wise hint, please! 😂 Basing on your opinion, should I prefer the 18-55 3,5-5,6 IS STM or the 4-5,6 IS STM? I bought an eon 850D with 4-5,6, but they sent me the older 3,5-5,6 so I'm considering the replacement. Every suggestion would be super-appreciated. Thank you!
Christopher, I have the older 18-55 kit lens. I'm looking at the newest Sigma 17-50mm 2.8. In your opinion should I keep the Canon kit lens and put my money toward a different lens. On a budget so my options are limited. More than focal length, my goal is the sharpest image on a budget. Can you suggest an option or two?
Chris, I have a question.. Which another channels that you know, talk about lenses and reviews as you do? But oriented on Nikon. I love your videos and your accent, grettings from México.
I don't know if it is just me but I bought a canon rebel sl3 that came with this lens and it doesn't auto focus I've tried the old one and it focuses fine on the camera, but when i put on the new one it doesn't auto focus at all
Short version, the Canon wipes the floor with the Sigma. The Sigma is less sharp overall, has a lot more aberrations, and has poor AF performance. The Canon is one of the best 70-200mm lenses on the market, and imo is the best. But it is also very expensive, I don't suggest it to just anyone. If you want a solid performing F2.8 lens I would look at the Tamron G2 model. Lot of good feedback on that one. Sigma is just not good for zooms. Their primes are hard to beat.
DapperDan I was wondering this at first but yes if you get the STM version of the 3.5 -5.6 lens the auto focus is silent due to the STM focusing capabilities 👍
I have a Canon EOS rebel T100 18-55/3.5-5.6 lens. Will a Canon EF 75-300 f/4-5.6,telephoto lens fit my camera? Please help. I just want a stronger lens and need to know if it will fit.
Is the hidden feature or the constant apature at 5.6 and lower on the 4-5.6 STM or on 3.5 -5.6? Because I have the 4-5.6 Version (but not on a Canon camera; I use it on a BMPCC6K) and it is not working like you say? Is it maybe my camera, wich do not support this feature? Best regards and all respect from cologne....
Hi Chris or anyone who can answer. Are the pictures from your tests- for sharpening barrel distortion etc- jpgs, raws, and do you do any processing? Cheers
No need. They're essentially exactly the same lens except the USM version's autofocus is a little sharper (and I think it's compatible with the Power Zoom module if you want that)
i just got a 1300d last week and i thought it would come with this 18-55mm lens but i noticed this one has image stabilizer yet my kit's lens does not. i wonder why
Thanks for this! Just wondering what would you recommend as an upgrade to this, I am looking for something with: Similar zoom range a lower f stop Not noisy AF (I do home videos so lots of zooming in faces) Thanks!
Hi have just bought a M50 body only should I buy this lens or the EF-M 15-45 I have the adaptor already. Would this lens be sharper than the small Ef-m lens
I have the older lens. I don't think the newer one has enough of a change optically to bother changing.I prefer the slightly larger feeling lens. Good comparison.👍
So would you suggest this lens over the previous one based on the f/stop ratio...? As a major factor for buying it... I ask becuase I always thought that a 3.5-5.6 aperture rating was superior to that of the ones which come with this new updated lens in your review. I am asking myself why Canon would do that and not produce a kit lens like Sigma and Tamron which is good enough for most people, professionals included. I mean, come on, surely Canon can, if anyone can...excuse the pun.
Sorry, I think you did not answer all my doubts regarding this lens and why Canon behave in the way they do, nowadays. I still don't get it. Apart from the size, design and weight, I cannot see any other reason to purchase this...as an upgrade, I mean Maybe I am wrong! Thanks for your response and dedication.
rich, I could be wrong, but I don't think it was intended by Canon as an upgrade. I think it just replaces the old model on new cameras. The small size may also lure someone like me who purchased the 18-135 kit lens with my T6i purchase.
Nope. A white box copy is one that had been included in a camera kit, but the retailed decided to sell it separately and so had to put it in a generic, white box.
too many camera are coming out i'm going to buy the canon sl1 and sl2 and i already have the canon 400d and i'm still learning that and i might get the 450d for 100 bucks you said you're good with any camera well can you help me with my camera the canon 400d 10.1 megapixel
i have a old 18-55 lens from my moms old camera that can not film should i get a 750d with a kit lens or get the 70d (only body) and take my moms kit lens?
I'd go one further and suggest getting the kit with 18-135mm, especially if you don't have any other lenses; the picture quality is basically the same and the extra reach is really missing in the 18-55 for photographing any kind of detail and as Jasbir said, the IS in those new STM lenses is properly impressive (not to mention that the STM itself rivals USM from the higher tier lenses for AF performance)
You normally get a white box when the retailer takes the lens out of a camera and lens kit that they were going to sell, and they choose to sell the lens separately
Hey! Thanks for your great work. Now, please: is this objective really 18-55 mm or 29-88 mm. Nobody answers this simple question to the beginners. I'd really appreciate your reply :)
Christopher Frost Photography Hum! You talk about equivalence, but believe me, that’s not clear (not to me). Let me rephrase it: is this objective really 11.25 mm - 34.375 mm (18/1.6 -55/1.6), or 29 mm - 88 mm (18*1.6 - 55*1.6)? I mean, should we multiply or divide the focal length we read on the camera in order to know the real value. One should multiply by the corresponding factor a fixed-focal length objective, but the kit objectives are somehow confusing. I know it would be easy to tell by comparing with a fixed objective, but I don’t have one 😅
If you watch the video, then you'll note that I say very clearly that this lens's zoom range of 18-55mm is the full-frame equivalent of 29-88mm. It's simple. If you're using a Canon APS-C camera, always multiply the focal length of /any/ lens byu 1.6x for the FF equivalent.
Christopher Frost Photography Ok I got the point. But to me it should be clearly stated that the objective on a APS-C camera isn’t really 18-55 mm. Because you may say ok, on a FF it works really as a 18-55 mm, but some EF-S objectives cannot be used on FF cameras. I’ll bug the canon guys rather than bugging you. Thanks man!
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A nice video. No one ever talks about the kit lens, even though it is likely everybody's first lens, thus making it one of the most important lenses in photography. Canon does such a good job making inexpensive but effective lenses, and their kit lens gets the job done. I didn't realize that the new one was slightly slower on aperture, but realistically it won't matter. Neither lens is good in bad light, unless shooting fairly still subjects thanks to IS (I think both have 4 stops of compensation), so really I think it is splitting hairs on that. I would say that the new STM focus is the real big deal, given that it replaces the older lenses clunky and noisey focusing mechanism, making it quiet and smooth for video as well as stills (I think it even focuses faster than the older model too). That is a big improvement, one that I think outweighs the loss of about 1/3 of a stop on the aperture for two lenses that are not fast lenses anyway. One caveat on the STM though, it is focus by wire manual focus, and some don't like that. For a kit lens, it really shouldn't matter to most people, just putting that out there.
Also, to anyone looking to trade up to the STM lens, don't buy this lens just for this lens. If you have the older kit lens it likely came with a camera that can't fully utilize the STM motor anyway. For stills it works on any camera, but for video you have to have specific Canon cameras to gain the advantage of silent focusing. Base models like the T6 do not have this feature, and this lens will still be noisey anyway. Older models like the T3i predate the silent focus for video (and AF in video too). If a new camera is in your future, it likely will come with this lens as long as it is not the base model (I currently recommend the SL2 as an inexpensive but still good camera). For what it cost new, you would be better to put that money into a new camera or a better lens (look into the Tamron or Sigma 17-50mm F2.8 models, or the Canon 17-55mm F2.8, or even the Canon 24mm F2.8 STM). Also, these kit lenses are available second hand all over the place for 50 to 100 bucks, if you are ok with that. So many of them just go unused, so it's a pretty safe bet. Mine just sits on a shelf, came with an 80D I bought, but I just have no need for it.
Thanks for the side-by-side comparison. The problem I have with the newer lens is the failure to focus as close as the earlier one. I do a lot of product photography for online sales, and I typically use an 18-55mm lens and a 100mm macro. I bumbled upon a Canon 77D at a pawn shop for a good price, and it had the newer lens with it. I found that with the older version, I don't need to switch to the macro as often, and that is huge. Therefore the newer lens is set aside and I mounted the older version on my 77D, along with another on an old SL1 on a copy stand. If the newer lens were able to focus closer, I'd be more likely to use it. For walking around taking nature photos, though, it might not matter as much, because I'd be more willing to switch to the macro lens. For my work/product photography, though, it's just so much nicer if I don't need to switch.
Chris, I value your reviews more than anyone else. You do such a fantastic job and answer every question I ever have. Please keep up your channel and never stop. Thanks again!
And here I always thought that people who claimed "first" post were goofy.
But now I ... naw, they really are goofy.
Man, your reviews are the best! Everything you need to know, right here! Thank you!
If I already have the new kit lens, would it make sense to get the Canon 17-55 2.8?
In your review of that lens you said it was better than the kit lens, but of course you meant the older kit lenses, not the new 4-5.6.
Hi Christ, love all your video, calm & clear voice unlike others who screaming or mumbling... Keep on the good work... cheers
The zoom ring on my STM kit lens (the previous f3.5-5.6 one) hasn't become stiff or jerky. Had the lens for 3 years now.
Wow, that's great - the zoom ring on my copy has certainly become stiffer!
Thank you for the review. I will mention I am surprised you left out one feature of the new lens that I find very useful. On the older model the lens rotates making a lens hood useless or worse, whereas the new version does not rotate, allowing the lens shade to perform it's function.
No - that's only the case on the very old, non-STM version of the kit lens
Believe it or not but I have made a lot of improvements in my photography decisions just by watching your videos. And I love the fact that you don't take any one's side.
I own and use an awesome but bulky Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 ...and I was looking for a compact lens when traveling lighter. The Canon 10-55mm f4-5.6 fits the goal but has a major problem... intensely obvious field curvature at shorter focal lengths. Unlike Canon's venerable 10-18mm EF-S kit lens, there is no extra depth to hide this effect (I can't simply focus longer to cover distant corners). At f/8 and 24mm, for instance, I need to focus at least 25 feet away to hold infinity corner sharpness, and by then, reasonably nearby foreground subjects are fuzzy. At ~32-55mm, the curvature is okay, but by then, there is no hope for holding both near and far focus, and the lens is probably best used as a short telephoto and close-up wide-angle. The final nail for me... image quality is workable, but lifeless compared to the Sigma lens.
Please do a review of the new Canon EF 70-300 USM II. Other reviews are really long.
Christopher, I really appreciate your reviews. They are an amazing resource.
How would you say the EF-S 18-55 compares against the EF-M 15-45 in general quality terms?
If you own a mirrorless camera just get the 15-45, don't bother adapting lenses if possible
Thank you. Bought my camera and it came with this lens. I’m barely starting to use my camera 📷 and appreciate your videos.
Thank You so much for the video. I sold my 700D-kit some time ago and went for a 70D but I always missed that 18-55mm kit lens for it's insanely quick and silent AF. Now I already had my former lens in the cart but then stumbled upon your video. The new zoom-ring setup is a life-saver for me. For some reason that fully retracted 26mm position drove me nuts, back then hehe.
Thanks Christ, I was trying to make a decision by reading reviews at B&H and looking "customer photos" and I was going crazy. Now I Know what to do. Thanks a lot, and keep going!
I'd love to see a comparison between the 24mm pancake, the kit lens, and the 18-135mm lens, all shot at 24mm with the same settings. I'm most interested in how they compare in terms of sharpness, chromatic aberrations, and distortions. The 24mm pancake may be better in low light with the wider aperture, but is it also better than the kit lens in daylight/landscape conditions when I might be stopped down to f/8 or f/11? I know it can do things the others can't due to the wider aperture, but I'm really interested to know if it can do the same things they can do even better. Could do the same experiment in various lighting/conditions and see how they turn out when shooting the same subject at the same settings.
I think you may be assuming I have a lot more spare time than I actually do...!
Christopher Frost Photography haha, yes, don't we all! Without a full video review, what's your opinion on it? Is one of them better than the others in terms of sharpness/clarity/color/etc.? I'm debating whether or not to buy the 24mm pancake. I don't really need it for low light or nicer bokeh since I tend to shoot outside, w/ aperture stopped down, during the day. I would get it though if it made better images than the kit lens under those conditions. I do wish it had image stabilization.
The 24mm lens will be sharpest, but of course, the zoom lenses will be most versatile
Does this work with T5i?
Yes
Same question I had
The T5i is an EF mount camera, and because of the APS-S sized sensor it also fits EF-S lenses that won't work on full frame
@@L-8 APS-C* 😉
@@L-8 Nope. The T5i is EF-S mount. This lens will work just fine with it. Also, as YourPalMojo said, it's APS-C (not APS-S).
I'd choose the newer kit lens in every comparison shot but I have the older one, which isn't a good thing. 50mm 1.8 was a better choice for my merger needs. I'm adding a 24mm 2.8. I don't think my kit lens will see the light of day however having IS is desirable.
The AF and IS good. To be honest, I'm surprised on how quick the AF is. Nice review as always :)
At 18mm the new lens has much more chromatic aberrations than the old lens with lots of color fringing that was not mentioned 5:50 Great Review with lots of great tests and detail - excellent! Thank you :)
Old lens at18mm sharper in the corners also..
I love your videos and the fact that you're using your Canon M3 from time to time. I bought this camera as my first "decent" one and can't decide wether to keep it or go for a 750D. The form factor and everything is nice, but it sucks that i need an adapter for EF-S lenses and the "missing" viewfinder bothers me. How come you use it even though you have way nicer cameras?
Anyways, thanks for all the videos, they're great! Especially the intro is so nice and calm :D
I love my EOS M3 hehe. It's not the camera, it's the photographer! :-)
I honestly don't know why canon made this lens. I mean, it nice to have a smaller, compact lens for traveling. (I can see this lens pair with the Canon 100D or the Rebel 1xxxD series) but i can't see anyone using this for anything else. What canon needs to do is start rebooting some of their legacy lens like the Canon EF-S 15-85mm 3.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon 17-55 F2.8 IS USM, and/or Canon 10-22mm F4.5-5.6 USM. I use to be a Canon user, but i recently switch to Sony's A7ii + Sony a6300. They are both excellent cameras for Video + Photography, but I do missed using my Canon; you really can't beat Canon amazing colors and their excellent lenses.
That "pop" sound effect when you opened the lens cap was fun.
Another great review. Please do the Canon 18-135mm STM vs Nano. Keep up the good work.
Hey, what would u advise for a video shooting (food channel on TH-cam)? I'm now using this kit 18-55mm one, not bad at all, but it really lacks a good zoom and bokeh...🙄 which is needed often to make some juicy videos of a ready meal... some advised to get a 2.8f at least, i.e. thinking more of a diaphragm, but I was thinking more of a focus length maybe, and get 18-135 for instance? I'd really appreciate your advise🙏Thank you!
Chris, you didn't mention it, but I noticed a difference in "true" focal length when doing the side by side comparisons. It looked as if the new version is slightly shorter (in comparison) at the same focal lengths.
You are correct - I didn't mention it (I probably should have) but the newer lens seems very slightly wider angle
I like the way you tell people if you don’t like the lens get this or this nice ...
I decided not on this lens. I have efs 24 f2.8 stm and ef 50 f1.8 stm lenses. The two primes are good enuf for my style of shooting with 80d
Drake Leroy 👌I have the 50 f1.8, the 24 f2.8 & the old 18-55 f3.5-5.6 STM. Honestly, I forced myself to take a few pictures with the kit lens today - just because I never use it. I love the 24 & the 50, and the kit lens rarely comes out of my bag...
what about the fact that prime lenses do not have IS? Much worse for video...
Chris, if you see this comment on your old video. Having looked at more than a few of your videos, the contrast on your test chart seems low for these lenses in relation to other tests you have done since. Having checked the Flickr images the colours and contrast also seem muted and muddy. I wasn’t sure if this was due to different exposure in the different tests or due to the quality of the lenses? Could I have your opinion?
It's possible I've just shot them a little differently over time - I'm not sure, really
@35mm the older lens (on the left) had a little bit more contrast in the center. All the other judgements were dead on though! I really enjoyed you putting the 2 side by side like this! You should do the same thing with crop sensor & full frame!!
I have recently found out that the 18-55 is actually not too bad. I just have the old one.
I wondering if it's worth the money to get it in stm (I have the 50mm as an stm and the focus is considerably better than that of the old 18-55)
plastic mount despite the 50 having a metal one? yikes. 55-250 it will be
Hello Christopher,
i'd need your wise hint, please! 😂
Basing on your opinion, should I prefer the 18-55 3,5-5,6 IS STM or the 4-5,6 IS STM?
I bought an eon 850D with 4-5,6, but they sent me the older 3,5-5,6 so I'm considering the replacement.
Every suggestion would be super-appreciated. Thank you!
Thank you soooooo much for the beautiful review and comparison, Chris!
Iv been following Chris on here almost 10 years. He needs to do a meetup someday with all his followers
what is different between EF-S 18-55mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Lens vs EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 III lens? which is best?
Good informative review Christopher many thanks
Please review the Canon 70-300 is II usm and Tamron 18-400 when it comes out
Christopher, I have the older 18-55 kit lens. I'm looking at the newest Sigma 17-50mm 2.8. In your opinion should I keep the Canon kit lens and put my money toward a different lens. On a budget so my options are limited. More than focal length, my goal is the sharpest image on a budget. Can you suggest an option or two?
It's up to you really, whether to go for a zoom lens or a couple of prime lenses. The Sigma 17-50 OS will be great, I would go for it :-)
but it's smaller when we selected 55mm also?
I'm going on vacation next year and want to use my t61 for videos. Would you recommend this lens? I'm new to cameras and such.
Hidden gem of Canon :D
Chris, I have a question.. Which another channels that you know, talk about lenses and reviews as you do? But oriented on Nikon. I love your videos and your accent, grettings from México.
I don't know - I don't have a Nikon camera so I'm not really interested hehe
I don't know if it is just me but I bought a canon rebel sl3 that came with this lens and it doesn't auto focus I've tried the old one and it focuses fine on the camera, but when i put on the new one it doesn't auto focus at all
Could you maybe do a comparison between the Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS and the Canon 70-200 2.8L IS II?
Short version, the Canon wipes the floor with the Sigma. The Sigma is less sharp overall, has a lot more aberrations, and has poor AF performance. The Canon is one of the best 70-200mm lenses on the market, and imo is the best. But it is also very expensive, I don't suggest it to just anyone. If you want a solid performing F2.8 lens I would look at the Tamron G2 model. Lot of good feedback on that one. Sigma is just not good for zooms. Their primes are hard to beat.
I would like to ask: Canon EOS 90D and canon, EOS M6 Mark II Which one is better to buy? Thank you 🙏
Sony A7 III :)
great review, is the 3.5 silent during auto focus for video also ?
DapperDan I was wondering this at first but yes if you get the STM version of the 3.5 -5.6 lens the auto focus is silent due to the STM focusing capabilities 👍
I have a Canon EOS rebel T100 18-55/3.5-5.6 lens. Will a Canon EF 75-300 f/4-5.6,telephoto lens fit my camera? Please help. I just want a stronger lens and need to know if it will fit.
Is the hidden feature or the constant apature at 5.6 and lower on the 4-5.6 STM or on 3.5 -5.6? Because I have the 4-5.6 Version (but not on a Canon camera; I use it on a BMPCC6K) and it is not working like you say? Is it maybe my camera, wich do not support this feature? Best regards and all respect from cologne....
Not really sure what you're asking here
Hello there! Ask a question: Can the EFS 18-55mm lens be mounted on a Canon EOS 90D camera? Thank you!
Yes
Does the 0.5 difference in aperture really not make a difference tho?
Gotta give it to Kfir 😂👌
Hi Chris or anyone who can answer. Are the pictures from your tests- for sharpening barrel distortion etc- jpgs, raws, and do you do any processing?
Cheers
Thanks for an another great review but why the hell they made it so dark?
Does this lens give a good wide shot for event portraits such as taking picture of large group of people with a large object background?
You can get a lot wider than 18mm - it might just about be wide enough though
I'm having trouble finding a lense hood that specifies it fits the f/4. Any help?
Thank you so much for this video. It had exactly the information I was looking for.
Nice job, as usuall. I rely on your reviews. Thank you.
Can you do a comparison like this between the Canon 18-135 STM vs 18-135 USM
No need. They're essentially exactly the same lens except the USM version's autofocus is a little sharper (and I think it's compatible with the Power Zoom module if you want that)
How important is the STM? Does it make a big difference in videoshooting?
For video it makes a huge difference
i just got a 1300d last week and i thought it would come with this 18-55mm lens but i noticed this one has image stabilizer yet my kit's lens does not. i wonder why
Some of them don't have IS. Avoid those lenses. Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
i guess its too late for me. i will learn with it and then go get a 50mm
Which lens do you use for your overhead shots with the lens in your hands?
Thanks for this!
Just wondering what would you recommend as an upgrade to this, I am looking for something with:
Similar zoom range
a lower f stop
Not noisy AF (I do home videos so lots of zooming in faces)
Thanks!
Check out Chris's review of the Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8. Not cheap, and these days rarely available brand new. But it's the best zoom lens I own.
If I already have the Sigma 18-35/1.8, should I get this lens along as a kit? Thanks for reviewing these budget lenses!
I wouldn't bother, myself. I would pair up that 18-35 lens with a Canon 55-250 STM
Hi have just bought a M50 body only should I buy this lens or the EF-M 15-45 I have the adaptor already. Would this lens be sharper than the small Ef-m lens
Just get this 15-45mm lens IMO. The technical performance of the EF-M version of the 18-55mm lens is about the same as the EF-S version of it
@@christopherfrost Many thanks and keep up the amazing reviews 😃
3:58 mine is 3yrs old.
Didn't stiffen up
Hi
What would be the next best lense to buy on a budget? .
We are going to South Africa,
for Botanical Gardens / Safari etc
Thank you
Depends what camera you have.
@@christopherfrost hi
It's a canon 80D
@@MrPhadraig Take a look at my 'low budget lenses for digital SLR cameras' video
hi can you review the EF 70-300mm is ll usm pls🤗
Picked up new version for 64 quid on eBay. Very pleased with size and performance. Thanks for an excellent review.
I have the older lens. I don't think the newer one has enough of a change optically to bother changing.I prefer the slightly larger feeling lens. Good comparison.👍
Hey Christopher, are you going to review the new sigma lenses?
Yes (eventually)
I just purchased the newer version and like but it doesn’t have auto zoom from camera controls, is this normal?
Enter The PC what ?? You have to physically zoom it
Ok thanks, I wondered because the IS II (older model) can zoom using camera controls, the old one is really loud when doing so.
My question is: would you buy the new one when you have the old one?
Robin Ho Fotos guess, I'd better buy the F2.8 lens at its zoom range
Can it fit a canon 40d?
I really like this TH-cam channel!
does this mean that i cannot shoot in bright light at a F16 or so?
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Thank you soooooo mch.. for this.. video.... ☺ finally my question got answered...
Thank you for This beautifull explaination , thank you so much for all this knowledge .
do it fit on my canon 550d?
So would you suggest this lens over the previous one based on the f/stop ratio...? As a major factor for buying it...
I ask becuase I always thought that a 3.5-5.6 aperture rating was superior to that of the ones which come with this new updated lens in your review.
I am asking myself why Canon would do that and not produce a kit lens like Sigma and Tamron which is good enough for most people, professionals included.
I mean, come on, surely Canon can, if anyone can...excuse the pun.
It depends whether you want smaller size, or slightly brighter aperture
Sorry, I think you did not answer all my doubts regarding this lens and why Canon behave in the way they do, nowadays.
I still don't get it.
Apart from the size, design and weight, I cannot see any other reason to purchase this...as an upgrade, I mean
Maybe I am wrong!
Thanks for your response and dedication.
rich, I could be wrong, but I don't think it was intended by Canon as an upgrade. I think it just replaces the old model on new cameras. The small size may also lure someone like me who purchased the 18-135 kit lens with my T6i purchase.
Well, it's up to you! I think Canon designed it to be an evolutionary step rather than an upgrade. Each to their own :-)
Just got this lens. The zoom ring feels a little bit rough is this normal?
It does getting rougher over time - that is normal
Hi Chris, your videos are really useful. But, could you please review some Nikon lens?
I'd love to branch out more, but I don't have the available time unfortunately (I already have a full-time job to do!)
3:35 very interesting collection, Chris :)
what is a white box different of any others ???
Nope. A white box copy is one that had been included in a camera kit, but the retailed decided to sell it separately and so had to put it in a generic, white box.
New one is better then 18-135mm stm ?
Take a look at my review of that lens for more information :-)
@@christopherfrost i'm confused 🙁 , new 18-55 stm is better then 18-135 stm for wide view ?
@@mdlimon505 What's confusing you? Are you talking about sharpness, is that what you're asking me? Well, take a look at my reviews and you'll see :-)
too many camera are coming out i'm going to buy the canon sl1 and sl2 and i already have the canon 400d and i'm still learning that and i might get the 450d for 100 bucks you said you're good with any camera well can you help me with my camera the canon 400d 10.1 megapixel
I have no idea what you're trying to say or trying to ask me here
@@christopherfrost i was asking you which lens would be good for my canon 400d 10.1 megapixel camera
@@cnottagejr A 10mp sensor is so low resolution, that almost any lens will look sharp on it
@@christopherfrost i have a 18-200 tamron lens on it but that's only good for taking pictures in the day time
@@christopherfrost so put a better kens on it and i will be straight right something like the 50mm
Is this sharper than the Canon M 18-55 lens?
They're very similar really, almost the same
Love your explanation
thanks you mate for this great review
Best reviews! Thanks.
i have a old 18-55 lens from my moms old camera that can not film should i get a 750d with a kit lens or get the 70d (only body) and take my moms kit lens?
Take it with kit lens....cus it's new stm lens and has both IS and AF
I'd go one further and suggest getting the kit with 18-135mm, especially if you don't have any other lenses; the picture quality is basically the same and the extra reach is really missing in the 18-55 for photographing any kind of detail
and as Jasbir said, the IS in those new STM lenses is properly impressive (not to mention that the STM itself rivals USM from the higher tier lenses for AF performance)
Well, after watching this video I think I made a good decision after buying the old STM kit lens. Thank you Christopher for this video!
why do you prefer the old lens?
What does white box mean?
You normally get a white box when the retailer takes the lens out of a camera and lens kit that they were going to sell, and they choose to sell the lens separately
how do you focus in a video on a canon eos 1300d with this lens ?
Read your camera's instruction manual
U either use the manual focus than the camera does all the job or use the manual focus and u use the front ring of the camera
Hi! Does this work with T3i?
Yup
Hey! Thanks for your great work. Now, please: is this objective really 18-55 mm or 29-88 mm. Nobody answers this simple question to the beginners. I'd really appreciate your reply :)
If you watch the review, I answer that exact question :-)
Christopher Frost Photography
Hum! You talk about equivalence, but believe me, that’s not clear (not to me).
Let me rephrase it: is this objective really 11.25 mm - 34.375 mm (18/1.6 -55/1.6), or 29 mm - 88 mm (18*1.6 - 55*1.6)? I mean, should we multiply or divide the focal length we read on the camera in order to know the real value.
One should multiply by the corresponding factor a fixed-focal length objective, but the kit objectives are somehow confusing.
I know it would be easy to tell by comparing with a fixed objective, but I don’t have one 😅
If you watch the video, then you'll note that I say very clearly that this lens's zoom range of 18-55mm is the full-frame equivalent of 29-88mm. It's simple. If you're using a Canon APS-C camera, always multiply the focal length of /any/ lens byu 1.6x for the FF equivalent.
Christopher Frost Photography Ok I got the point. But to me it should be clearly stated that the objective on a APS-C camera isn’t really 18-55 mm. Because you may say ok, on a FF it works really as a 18-55 mm, but some EF-S objectives cannot be used on FF cameras.
I’ll bug the canon guys rather than bugging you.
Thanks man!
Thank you, I'll order an eos 250d with this lens instead of body only. Really helpful vid!
Did u order your 250d yet?
thank you for all your good work.
THX for review! very helpful )