Jade empowerment, when you pop it on a bunch of adds, is legitimately super fun, feels amazing, and does a suprising amount of healing and damage. Honestly I am pretty happy with how blizzard is treating mistweavers this expac. I'm really hoping they add gust generation to jade empowerment because that would be just so fun.
@@NateEpicsaurus damn bro really made himself look dumb then turned off his notifications 😂 cmon man, if u aint gonna delete the comment at least defend yourself
MW is so fun to play atm. As a glorified pug healer, I am playing conduit almost every single dungeon just spamming +8-12's. Throughput and overhealing can be important, alternating Invoke Chi-Ji and the Conduit ability itself for every other pack.
Love your monk guides :) Would you talk a bit more about the master of harmony build ? I really only do +10/11 as my highest keys and that's probably true for most players, and if I can do more DMG there that could be fun if it's viable healingwise
Great guide, I just came back since DF second season. In the past I’ve always MW healed. I always get skeptical when they start to buff fist weaving. It’s fun, but it’s almost never long lasting. Hope this game play stays similar for the rest of the season at least.
Just press renewing mist whenever its off cooldown, all the fistweaving will extend the durations and create new mists. You want to keep as many on your party as possible so that when big aoe dmg comes in, your vivify will heal everyone through invig mists + zen pulse.
I switched my build to master of harmony. I have more survivability, but I was really used to Celestial Conduit for oh-shit moments. I see that your running it now as well. I have just been tracking what you do cause your top on my server and I'm right underneath you lol. We actually met in-game and I told you I would catch up to you lol. Character is Iloveyou - Icecrown.
Loving the lightning but the range that a 4th target jump can be is absurd, looking like it can take the full 40yards even if the group of 3 is right in front of you. I've found myself often having to place my back to the route in order to not have my lightning jump to unintended targets.
Yep I ninja pulled with it twice during the same fight on 2nd miniboss in Dawnbreaker, in a +11. Luckily I was able to heal through it, but man was my tank angry at me.
I currently play MW like mercy from Overwatch, where i summon my statue and just use Soothing mist along with Vivify/Enveloping while throwing Renewing off cd. Im scared to swap to fistweaver, but feel its gonna be necessary as i climb keys. Any advice for a healer who isnt used to healing through dmg?
I did really much testing on a range version and for now it can absolutely do a good amount of dps, but healing wise you will have no chance in higher keys because you quickly fall behind. In raids you can act more as a range healer since the wind rush kick needs no target to press it.
@@Megasett how about for raid with range RSK and ToM is it consideraebly weaker to play a caster healer in raid? Like fistweaving in M+ not so much in raids.
I'd really appreciate a raid healing update. I heard you mention on stream something about having more RM out isn't as good anymore? Also wondering why we are not taking the 3 charges of RM anymore in raid (those are probably related).
What about taking Resplendent Mist over Pool of Mists? I don't know that I get much value out of Pool of Mists given RSK resets anyways and there is already plenty of Renewing Mist to go around with Thunder Focus Tea-> Renewing Mist, Rapid Diffusion, and Rising Mist. I do have some mastery (for fistweaving in raid) to help with Resplendent Mist's value.
I asked on stream about this and she says it's for the extra charge of renewing mist for more chi harmony's. I don't think it's worth the point, considering how much power these bottom talents are worth, but she's the master.
General rotation question - are we ALWAYS pressing RSK->TPx2->BoK? Or are we supposed to prioritize RSK resets with RSK->BoK for reset and press TPx2 if we don't get the reset?
Ideally RSK would be on CD whenever you press BoK for chance of reset but most of the time I am just using 2xTP each time for the slightly burstier healing from Jadefire Teachings for maintenance healing, since there's so much random damage in the keys
Hey quick question. I have crafted Adrenal Surge Clasp as nerubian embelish (instead of Ascension) since it says taking dmg procs the effect. But as mistweaver in m+ it doesnt seem to proc. I only see it when taking melee dmg. Is this a bug? The effect seemed nice on paper and it doesnt specify which kind of dmg. I assumed its any
I'm playing with tea of plenty, and I like it empwering two more spells, was trying the new ruhing wind kick and noticed that the kick doesn't consume buff from tft making it perma < 3s cd. Seems kinda broken but you lose ancient teachings for that :D
nice - i think i will give it a try........................ what could go wrong - MISTWEAVER lets GOOOO but one question - i dont get the "unity within" passive - in "my world" a recast would mean - it starts a new channel - but it doesnt - im confused XD
heyyy megasett, I joined your discord in hopes to find your OmniCD profile and I just couldn't find it on the spreadsheet or in the discord, if you could guide me in the right direction, love your content btw
Meg can you make a short about the patch next week? Is full mastery stack dead? I know it wasnt good in m+ but im honestly really sad about it. It was the only thing that was fun for me and also put out a shit ton of healing.
Coming back to tww after quiting back in bfa and i must say i hate this playstily of having to deal melee dmg to heal is there a non-melee build for monks? or should i just lvl something else?
U don't play with the channeling heal that allow to instant cast vivify and the yellow mist? Oo I struggle a lot to heal up my team when everyone is taking a huge dot (like in grim batol), how do u do to keep them alive ? Just spam vivify ?
@Spaceman1515 exactly the same question. Most high M+ players I seen take it and I struggle the same. I'm only healing like 600k overall though in most dungeons being about 8's with 614 gear. Megadeath is over double that 😂. Does have 12% extra haste than me though.
You can, but it's situational if you really need the single target pump. And you'd have to sacrifice a couple of points in the class tree. A good "oh shit" button/combo, but probably at the cost of damage done.
@@mxonee It's totally valid to take, you don't lose HPS, you just lose a few niche utility talents. But the DR from soothing mist is actually somewhat impactful in certain keys
@@GerblerM glad to hear that because I’m definitely not good enough to not take it. I also take peer into peace because at least once a key I oversend a CD in pack A only for pack B to be a problem. Peer into peace just lets me recover while chi ji comes back One day hopefully I’ll be able to drop it
the spec still feels weak outside jade empowerment and chi-ji. revival does some ok healing on occasion. but that's really about it vivify does like 12% of my health which is paltry compared to a tank. so tanks hp doesn't even budge with it. even with both vivify AND EnV it's only 25% of mine or even less on a tank, it's very very weak. Shei'luns even at a 10 stack is only 50% stronger than a vivify. sure that's on the entire party, but that's what 1/5 of the party hp or less? for something that takes 40 seconds to build up. barely even feels worth it to use. Even as maintenance healing it seems pretty pathetic much less in a situation where you'd actually need throughput in which case it's chi-ji or nothing.
But it is taken by some. I really implore you to look at other peoples builds and to read amd learn your talents and why they are picked. It's not a criticism of Megasett, she'd agree that some talents are optional and that different builds exist. For example, the highest key done by a mistweaver plays Master of Harmony and uses soothing mist. Megasett even mentions in this video that if you feel confident enough you can play Master of Harmony for the extra damage. This "meta build" doesn't exist besides in literally the highest key in the world done by the best people in the world where perfect execution is no longer enough. And even they change build depending on strat/dungeon/comp. Dont limit yourself.
The bug that caused Jade Empowerment’s damage increase to not function if an enemy dies while Crackling Jade Lightning is active has been resolved ✅
I don’t even play mistweaver. I just like watching someone this good explain something that I can’t understand.
We are having fun with the new "chain lightning", and we all know what Blizzard thinks about us having fun. Let's enjoy it for now.
already nerfed in pvp to +2 targets.
It does feel bad though to be rooted for 3s in a high swirly environment, which is where melee healers should feel good
@@holysmoly427 I use it in moments where I don't need too be / can't be in melee.
@@slandry4664 same
Thanks for getting this out so quick, Meg! Much appreciated!
Jade empowerment, when you pop it on a bunch of adds, is legitimately super fun, feels amazing, and does a suprising amount of healing and damage. Honestly I am pretty happy with how blizzard is treating mistweavers this expac. I'm really hoping they add gust generation to jade empowerment because that would be just so fun.
Sithweaving is so much fun
@@bigtrunx If you dont enjoy or like it, then don't play it 🤣
@@NateEpicsaurus what
@@NateEpicsaurus bruh your answer is so out of touch here
@@NateEpicsaurus Think you really misunderstood the reference lol
@@NateEpicsaurus damn bro really made himself look dumb then turned off his notifications 😂 cmon man, if u aint gonna delete the comment at least defend yourself
Amazing content as always! ❤
MW is so fun to play atm. As a glorified pug healer, I am playing conduit almost every single dungeon just spamming +8-12's. Throughput and overhealing can be important, alternating Invoke Chi-Ji and the Conduit ability itself for every other pack.
is here a chance you do a master of harmony guide aswell?
Se agradece mucho la guía. muchas gracias
nice to hear we do not need spam to spinning crane kick any more lol my fingers were tired
you never really needed to ?
And they just released patch notes buffing MW and some of their abilities. It’s a good day
Yea not gunna lie she has taught me so much im doing 12s healing thwm my groups love me
Love your monk guides :)
Would you talk a bit more about the master of harmony build ? I really only do +10/11 as my highest keys and that's probably true for most players, and if I can do more DMG there that could be fun if it's viable healingwise
MEG CONTENT IS GOOD CONTENT
Thank you as always for the great content. I appreciate learning class mastery from you
Great guide, I just came back since DF second season. In the past I’ve always MW healed. I always get skeptical when they start to buff fist weaving. It’s fun, but it’s almost never long lasting. Hope this game play stays similar for the rest of the season at least.
when do u cast renewing mist? i cant see you casting it, but u have the talent pool of mists
Just press renewing mist whenever its off cooldown, all the fistweaving will extend the durations and create new mists. You want to keep as many on your party as possible so that when big aoe dmg comes in, your vivify will heal everyone through invig mists + zen pulse.
i love the ui but i cant figure out how to use it and have my player unit frame showing. Any help with this?
I switched my build to master of harmony. I have more survivability, but I was really used to Celestial Conduit for oh-shit moments. I see that your running it now as well. I have just been tracking what you do cause your top on my server and I'm right underneath you lol. We actually met in-game and I told you I would catch up to you lol. Character is Iloveyou - Icecrown.
great video as always
Loving the lightning but the range that a 4th target jump can be is absurd, looking like it can take the full 40yards even if the group of 3 is right in front of you. I've found myself often having to place my back to the route in order to not have my lightning jump to unintended targets.
Yep I ninja pulled with it twice during the same fight on 2nd miniboss in Dawnbreaker, in a +11. Luckily I was able to heal through it, but man was my tank angry at me.
I currently play MW like mercy from Overwatch, where i summon my statue and just use Soothing mist along with Vivify/Enveloping while throwing Renewing off cd. Im scared to swap to fistweaver, but feel its gonna be necessary as i climb keys. Any advice for a healer who isnt used to healing through dmg?
Would you run SCK in dungeons with large pulls like NW where the target count exceeds the jade lightning chain?
Hello, love your content! Just getting into MW! A quick question about your UI - does it not have a way to track CD's like Life Cocoon or Revival?
Is it possible now to stop fistweaving and start to act more as a range healer? 🤔
Not really, we’re still classified as melee for mechanics and a majority of our damage spells and utility are all still melee based
I did really much testing on a range version and for now it can absolutely do a good amount of dps, but healing wise you will have no chance in higher keys because you quickly fall behind. In raids you can act more as a range healer since the wind rush kick needs no target to press it.
@@Megasett how about for raid with range RSK and ToM is it consideraebly weaker to play a caster healer in raid? Like fistweaving in M+ not so much in raids.
I'd really appreciate a raid healing update. I heard you mention on stream something about having more RM out isn't as good anymore? Also wondering why we are not taking the 3 charges of RM anymore in raid (those are probably related).
Just did +12 stones, necro, siege and in all did about 630k dps overall as Harmony sith mistweaver. Pretty insane dmg. No Aug in group.
Share your build please :)
i just did a +15 city with 1mil dps and 3mil hps pretty insane no other people in group.
@@Fenrisdog999 i can send u many screenshots on Discord of proof if you dont believe that Haha.
@@tomykulak7728 dude is hating lolll that’s sick man
Is it harder to play than conduit?
What about taking Resplendent Mist over Pool of Mists? I don't know that I get much value out of Pool of Mists given RSK resets anyways and there is already plenty of Renewing Mist to go around with Thunder Focus Tea-> Renewing Mist, Rapid Diffusion, and Rising Mist. I do have some mastery (for fistweaving in raid) to help with Resplendent Mist's value.
I asked on stream about this and she says it's for the extra charge of renewing mist for more chi harmony's. I don't think it's worth the point, considering how much power these bottom talents are worth, but she's the master.
General rotation question - are we ALWAYS pressing RSK->TPx2->BoK? Or are we supposed to prioritize RSK resets with RSK->BoK for reset and press TPx2 if we don't get the reset?
Ideally RSK would be on CD whenever you press BoK for chance of reset but most of the time I am just using 2xTP each time for the slightly burstier healing from Jadefire Teachings for maintenance healing, since there's so much random damage in the keys
Hey quick question. I have crafted Adrenal Surge Clasp as nerubian embelish (instead of Ascension) since it says taking dmg procs the effect. But as mistweaver in m+ it doesnt seem to proc. I only see it when taking melee dmg. Is this a bug? The effect seemed nice on paper and it doesnt specify which kind of dmg. I assumed its any
Hey Meg. Another great video, contrats. One question: does anything change after the recent buffs we are receveing ? Maybe SCK prio with the buffs.
No changes for M+
I'm playing with tea of plenty, and I like it empwering two more spells, was trying the new ruhing wind kick and noticed that the kick doesn't consume buff from tft making it perma < 3s cd. Seems kinda broken but you lose ancient teachings for that :D
nice - i think i will give it a try........................ what could go wrong - MISTWEAVER lets GOOOO
but one question - i dont get the "unity within" passive - in "my world" a recast would mean - it starts a new channel - but it doesnt - im confused XD
Can we keep the same spec tree for Aspect of Harmony?
@@vlayde70 yep!
heyyy megasett, I joined your discord in hopes to find your OmniCD profile and I just couldn't find it on the spreadsheet or in the discord, if you could guide me in the right direction, love your content btw
Meg can you make a short about the patch next week? Is full mastery stack dead? I know it wasnt good in m+ but im honestly really sad about it. It was the only thing that was fun for me and also put out a shit ton of healing.
It was only a nerf to Jade Bond so it doesn’t change anything for m+. For raid I believe we still play a similar build but with RWK
just make sure you’re spreading those renewing mists it shouldn’t be too bad to switch to fistweaving
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Coming back to tww after quiting back in bfa and i must say i hate this playstily of having to deal melee dmg to heal is there a non-melee build for monks? or should i just lvl something else?
Monk is a melee class so you’d find more success with another class if you want to be ranged
@@Megasett 😭😭😭
so the jedi (monk) has transitioned to be a sith
Share Harmony build please :)
Will Rising Wind Kick be usable after the 150% dmg increase next week? Sounds like a giga damage increase. Thx!
Usable for damage but for any type of push key we won't want to drop JT
Stupid question but is that an addon or a setting to make Necrotic Wake look brighter?
Stinky Bright Potion! It’s a consumable you can get on the AH
@@Megasett tysm :D
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U don't play with the channeling heal that allow to instant cast vivify and the yellow mist? Oo I struggle a lot to heal up my team when everyone is taking a huge dot (like in grim batol), how do u do to keep them alive ? Just spam vivify ?
@Spaceman1515 exactly the same question. Most high M+ players I seen take it and I struggle the same. I'm only healing like 600k overall though in most dungeons being about 8's with 614 gear. Megadeath is over double that 😂. Does have 12% extra haste than me though.
This looks like a hybrid of cast and fist
Yes that is Mistweaver the spec
Is Soothing Mist no longer taken for M+?
You can, but it's situational if you really need the single target pump. And you'd have to sacrifice a couple of points in the class tree. A good "oh shit" button/combo, but probably at the cost of damage done.
I was wondering aswell. Is it bad to use? Or a hps loose?
@@mxonee It's totally valid to take, you don't lose HPS, you just lose a few niche utility talents. But the DR from soothing mist is actually somewhat impactful in certain keys
@@GerblerM glad to hear that because I’m definitely not good enough to not take it. I also take peer into peace because at least once a key I oversend a CD in pack A only for pack B to be a problem. Peer into peace just lets me recover while chi ji comes back
One day hopefully I’ll be able to drop it
Mistweaving is viable??
Mistweaver (the spec) always uses a combination of melee abilities and casted spells
the spec still feels weak outside jade empowerment and chi-ji. revival does some ok healing on occasion. but that's really about it
vivify does like 12% of my health which is paltry compared to a tank. so tanks hp doesn't even budge with it. even with both vivify AND EnV it's only 25% of mine or even less on a tank, it's very very weak. Shei'luns even at a 10 stack is only 50% stronger than a vivify. sure that's on the entire party, but that's what 1/5 of the party hp or less? for something that takes 40 seconds to build up. barely even feels worth it to use. Even as maintenance healing it seems pretty pathetic much less in a situation where you'd actually need throughput in which case it's chi-ji or nothing.
Not taking red lightning is objectively a mistake
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@@wgcdrelliot8989why be cringe
@@wgcdrelliot8989 "millennia" is plural, my guy
I hope they split Mistweaving and Fistweaving into different specs one day. The fact that soothing mists isn't even taken is a joke tbh...
But it is taken by some. I really implore you to look at other peoples builds and to read amd learn your talents and why they are picked. It's not a criticism of Megasett, she'd agree that some talents are optional and that different builds exist.
For example, the highest key done by a mistweaver plays Master of Harmony and uses soothing mist.
Megasett even mentions in this video that if you feel confident enough you can play Master of Harmony for the extra damage.
This "meta build" doesn't exist besides in literally the highest key in the world done by the best people in the world where perfect execution is no longer enough. And even they change build depending on strat/dungeon/comp.
Dont limit yourself.
Im so sad that jad impowerment is a thing and that sck is not graet i hate cjl so much
then don't use it?