Before plugging them in to make the recording, I played them side-by-side just acoustically to hear how they sound, feel and vibrate au naturel. The core characteristics of each guitar got transferred surprisingly accurate into the amplified tone despite the variance in pickups. It would be interesting to test them all with the same pickups (I intend to do a test like that soon) but my experience tells me the end result would be surprisingly close. Pickup changes for me have been always about altering small nuances. Don't expect the '02 Standard to sound like the '64 RI just by putting Custombuckers in it and vice versa. Not gonna happen.
The original sound of the TNT riff is the sound of a Gretsch firebird with filtertron pickups and 12 gauge strings played through a Marshall 100 watt superbass and a 4x12 cab with G12-65 speakers, not an SG through greenbacks (that would be the second guitar in the chorus and solo) -Also important- the riff is correctly played with only down strokes.
i have a question. i have a standard 61 and the string spacing seems really wide compared to my 2004 les paul. But that Les Paul has a nashville bridge. Is the string spacing on the 2002 and 2020 standards any tighter than the 61 abr1 bridge?
Also ensure that the height of the pickup is exactly the same as the relative height of the two pickups. Because their influence is really too great, I often adjust them to get completely different sounds.
I was sold on the 61.. Then I went to the store and tried a 2023 standard against the 61...The 2023 Standard sounded fatter and with better mid range than the 61... I left the store with the 2023 standard...
Hi, What's your thought on 2002 standard? Many people are looking for it becuase of the belief about Good wood Era. Do you think it has better acoustic sound?
There is a difference between pre and post-2008 Gibsons. That's when Gibson ultimately changed the mahogany source from South and Central-America to Fiji. Both are the same species - Swietenia macrophylla - but due to different growth and climate conditions, their tonal qualities and even their visual appearance are different. The three newer SGs sounded more similar to each other acoustically while the '02 had a deeper, more bassy resonance. I think this can be heard even in their amplified tone. I can't say though that one is better than the other, it's all about individual preference.
The 2002 is definitely better sounding than the 2020. The 61 is better than both the standards. The best one is definitely the 64. I've owned the 61 and 2020 standard. They were great, but I after I bought the Custom Shop 64 I never played them again.
This particular '64 Custom Shop SG is incredible and propably the best in this contest. The long vibrola really has a great vintage sounding effect on its tone.
If you enjoy playing metal or breakdown, you will like 2002 standard with higher power, thick and heavy, and better bass. If you like vintage rock, you will like 64 or 61 low-power, small and sharp.It depends on what music you play, what sound you need, and there is no real sense of good or bad.
More or less correct altough there are common preferable attributes like a balanced natural EQ curve, a responsive and percussive low-end & acceptable sustain and so on. The material gotta be good to begin with, then comes the pickup and hardware adjustments + the other tiny pieces of the puzzle.
@@Guitar_Magic I feel conflicted and have no choice. I like to play heavy rock like post hardcore or lighter post rock. I hope the guitar can have a thick and full, aggressive sound and a sweet clean sound. So I should prefer a high-power SG STD guitar with a pickup, but I would prefer a guitar like the 1964 SG that clearly has better wood and sound details, even if it may not be suitable for the music I want to play.
2002 Standard for the win!
The 2020 61 Standard is raw and reminds me of the original TNT sound. Fwiw, I feel like the pickups are what separates the sound.
Before plugging them in to make the recording, I played them side-by-side just acoustically to hear how they sound, feel and vibrate au naturel. The core characteristics of each guitar got transferred surprisingly accurate into the amplified tone despite the variance in pickups. It would be interesting to test them all with the same pickups (I intend to do a test like that soon) but my experience tells me the end result would be surprisingly close. Pickup changes for me have been always about altering small nuances. Don't expect the '02 Standard to sound like the '64 RI just by putting Custombuckers in it and vice versa. Not gonna happen.
The original sound of the TNT riff is the sound of a Gretsch firebird with filtertron pickups and 12 gauge strings played through a Marshall 100 watt superbass and a 4x12 cab with G12-65 speakers, not an SG through greenbacks (that would be the second guitar in the chorus and solo) -Also important- the riff is correctly played with only down strokes.
i have a question. i have a standard 61 and the string spacing seems really wide compared to my 2004 les paul. But that Les Paul has a nashville bridge. Is the string spacing on the 2002 and 2020 standards any tighter than the 61 abr1 bridge?
61🔥
Also ensure that the height of the pickup is exactly the same as the relative height of the two pickups. Because their influence is really too great, I often adjust them to get completely different sounds.
Spot-on!
I was sold on the 61.. Then I went to the store and tried a 2023 standard against the 61...The 2023 Standard sounded fatter and with better mid range than the 61... I left the store with the 2023 standard...
Hi, What's your thought on 2002 standard? Many people are looking for it becuase of the belief about Good wood Era. Do you think it has better acoustic sound?
There is a difference between pre and post-2008 Gibsons. That's when Gibson ultimately changed the mahogany source from South and Central-America to Fiji. Both are the same species - Swietenia macrophylla - but due to different growth and climate conditions, their tonal qualities and even their visual appearance are different. The three newer SGs sounded more similar to each other acoustically while the '02 had a deeper, more bassy resonance. I think this can be heard even in their amplified tone. I can't say though that one is better than the other, it's all about individual preference.
The 2002 is definitely better sounding than the 2020. The 61 is better than both the standards. The best one is definitely the 64. I've owned the 61 and 2020 standard. They were great, but I after I bought the Custom Shop 64 I never played them again.
This particular '64 Custom Shop SG is incredible and propably the best in this contest. The long vibrola really has a great vintage sounding effect on its tone.
To me the old standard has overly hot and therefore muddy pickups. The 2020 SG 61 is great. But the custom shop blows them all out of the water.
If you enjoy playing metal or breakdown, you will like 2002 standard with higher power, thick and heavy, and better bass. If you like vintage rock, you will like 64 or 61 low-power, small and sharp.It depends on what music you play, what sound you need, and there is no real sense of good or bad.
More or less correct altough there are common preferable attributes like a balanced natural EQ curve, a responsive and percussive low-end & acceptable sustain and so on. The material gotta be good to begin with, then comes the pickup and hardware adjustments + the other tiny pieces of the puzzle.
@@Guitar_Magic I feel conflicted and have no choice. I like to play heavy rock like post hardcore or lighter post rock. I hope the guitar can have a thick and full, aggressive sound and a sweet clean sound. So I should prefer a high-power SG STD guitar with a pickup, but I would prefer a guitar like the 1964 SG that clearly has better wood and sound details, even if it may not be suitable for the music I want to play.
Black SGs always sound better! ⚫️ 😈 😂