His voice is so deep and....... Deep. Yeah, I couldn't think of any other way to say it. But his voice is deep and like croaky but not sick croaky. Do you get it? Anyway, his voice I'd deep, that's the point
its selfish. Her death would have ruined Tobias’s life, and her other friends’. If Caleb died it wouldn’t have been that big of a deal. It doesn’t make that much sense.
@@RDragon09 Yeah, but at the same time, their whole plan was nonsensical. The main objective in the books had always been unclear and it still is. Tris saved David, and then she makes a stupid plan about releasing the serum in the Bureau instead, and that includes sacrificing a person. Couldn't they make a batter plan? All brave, selfless and a Tris having an aptitude for Erudite could think of was to release the memory serum in the Bureau? And everyone agreed with her and couldn't think of anything that's better? Look, I don't argue on the Tris dying part, that's kind of unique, and it also gave a nice impression to the readers. However, the cause of her death did not make sense. They could've destroyed the Bureau. If Tobias had that so called 'power' to convince Evelyn because she had loved him, they could've convinced the factionless to fight with them. And then there was the Allegiant, led by Johanna (and Marcus) and they both were clever, they would've agreed too. It's not like they made their plans in a hurry, the still had two full days to do everything, and yet they didn't. And this way, Tris's death could have had more meaning, but what all she died was for a stupid plan of hers. Also, the plot of Allegiant kind of seemed rushed. It was like the author wanted to tell us what's happening just for the sake of it. She miserably failed at the "show not tell" thing.
@Yuna Kaneko Lee Yep, I think that too. The first book was Hunger Games, the second book was wholly turning cliche, and the third book was a poor rip-off of Maze Runner. Veronica Roth could've made it so much better. I just didn't like the way she told everything, and every character is like, "Okay! Lol we don't care if you've just dumped us in a city for so-called 'experiments' and put on cameras we never were curious on their presence!" And all the genes thing was also not properly described. Again, the 'show, not tell' thing. Maze Runner was so much more realistic and better in its motive and plot.
Can people stop, I was sad when Tris died but I agree fully with Shai and Theo. Tris was selfless, and so, as much as I wish it had been Caleb, it makes perfect sense for her to end her life like that. It proves that she is truly selfless and that she loved her brother, despite everything.
Also bc Caleb was not going to get it done bc of how urgently they had to execute the plan as it had to be done earlier than planned. He would never have been able to put the suit on before the soldiers came to shoot him and either way I don't think he would've been able to do it without the suit even since David was there
It's ok to be happy with the ending but still be sad about. I mean veronica couldn't have wrote the ending without thinking ppl r also gonna grieve. It's still a beautiful ending tho
I finished the series within a week of the last book coming out and I was like emotionally depressed for like 2 days (lol) anyway I decided to pick it up and re-read it yesterday and honestly I don't feel any better...
Elayna L. Yeah I agree! It was like I didn't really want to believe it when it happened, and then when it set into Tobias and Christina it became real and just tears.
@@elaynarose_ I know I'm 3 years late to this conversation but I really can't fathom that Tobias will ever be happy again, which is what really gets me. I think that no matter who he loves, he won't love them nearly as much as he did Tris.
THANK U! I agree with Shai and Theo! The death of Tris gives her character way more courage and selflessness that really helps the reader understand what the book is about! Even tho I cried every time I read Allegiant doesn't mean that I don't agree with what Veronica decided to write. Honestly, I would not have liked an end in where tris and four have kids and the society is replaced and all is well and bla bla bla. The ending that Veronica gave us leaves the readers thinking "Was it worth it? Would I do that for the sake of my family? Am I brave? Am I selfish?"
I cried at the end and ya I am barly answering I just fineshed the Divergent book series. And when the movie can out Divergent I was like in first or second grade and I just watched it and I just started seventh grade
Nah its selfish. Her death would have ruined Tobias’s life, and her other friends’. If Caleb died it wouldn’t have been that big of a deal. It doesn’t make that much sense.
Yeah, i just wished that if she had to die, at least let her die a better way. Like "defied all odds by surviving death serum, then gets shot." Like if anything, let the die together. "You die, I die." I know not everything is about a love story, but some things are and thats ok.
I actually find the ending quite surprising and a beautiful way to end the series if you really think about it. not every book/movie is going to have a happy ending. otherwise they would eventually get boring
That's true. And veronica roth was even more attached to tris than we were, she created her. People act like she made this character die deliberately trying to upset the fans or something, when in reality the way she died was the epitome of the perfect ending for tris, she did what was necessary and gave the ultimate sacrifice: her life. She wasn't just throwing away her life, she had grown past that stage. She risked it to save everyone else. In a way, it's sort of a happy ending.
Carol Montes YES He should have!!! Tris really thought that leaving the world with Caleb was better off then giving the world a Tris and four to make sure shit doesn't hit the fan again? I hate that part. she could do so much more good for the world then Caleb could ever do.
TheMattd546 In a nutshell, your mentality is selfish. After reading the series - which I assume you most definitely have - you still don't know Tris. Tris is sacrificial. It's selfish to think that Tris - after all her sacrifices - is still beholden to the world. Tris and Four are not superheroes who can in a snap of a finger stop problems from happening. Secondly, you have too much hate for Caleb. In the end, Caleb, who is intelligent enough can discern that his ultimate redemption is to manifest the positive attributes his family has. It's not their descent's duty to do good in the world. Lastly, do you really believe that Caleb would have been able to press the button before he is killed by the death serum?
True but from the way I see them answer questions during interviews, they always talk about it as if they were just reading the stories and not being apart of it themselves but they did watch allegiant together and make fun of each other so for the movie I see it but not so much the book 😂
It is not unnecessary. I mean did hope that she would survive because she survived the death serum but it shows that it was her true sacrifice from her earlier attempts to fix things by trying to be selfless
Despite how much the ending made me cry when I read it for the first time, and still makes me cry to this day, as a storyteller I have to admit the ending is incredible. It is beautiful, tragic, powerful and full of meaning. For a story that centered around self-sacrifice it would not have had the same impact if Tris had not sacrificed herself. Not only was she remembered for that bravery but those who loved her had to learn to accept and respect her choice despite the pain of it.
I think losing the main character really opens many people's eyes and it teaches a lesson to so many people the fact that she sacrificed herself. It taught many people to be selfless and left the reader to love Tris Prior more.
I want to see Allegiant but i also want to avoid it because reading the book i broke down in tears, i can't possibly handle watching the scene actually happening.. i'm not ready for her to go :'(
You are so right but a few months later, I watched the movie but I still can’t get over tris’s death in the book even if she doesn’t die in the movie(spoiler)
Today I finished reading the series and I feel so emotionally devastated like someone I knew and liked just died and I won't ever see them again. And I never cry from books. Like ever. Not even from the fault in our stars which is my favorite book.
Erin Taylor So did I. I cryed for 3 months, listening to a song that was based off of the Divergent Series, Pretend It's Home by Beth Crowley, is the name.
At first, i didn't think tris's death was necessary, cause i cried so hard, but now, 2 and "something" years after i read "allegiant" it kind of feels right, i wouldn't be happy if they change the ending in the movie... It is what it is, and everything has a reason to be (i would seriously recommend reading the book)
TRIS'S DEATH IS NECESSARY! Gosh! Veronica stated that it was always set from the start and that her journey played out that way to which the ending makes sense. Honestly to say it's not something isn't comprehending properly. And when veronica said she got the ending she dervered, she didn't mean "She deserved to die" she obviously meant that Tris got the powerful ending a person can get, to be remembered for being brave, and strong to save an entire city and future generations after her
agree ... after living the life she did and doing all she did i never saw Tris living the simple life with a dog n kids ya know ... to me, in her mind it would be boreing and to simple. She wouldn't have liked the "simple life".
Yeah I think it will be the most beautiful ending for this story... But I still don't like it in the way that I just really don't want Tris to die😭😂 But I get it, I agree with you. However, I'm still going to cry so hard when I'll see the last movie😂😭
***** haha I'm currently reading the last book but there were a few assholes in a comment system of the music video for the Divergent movie who were very obviously saying that Tris is going to die. And I wasn't done reading, so now I'm crying because of two things: Tris dies and a few people spoiled it for me😭😂
+BoneStudios15 Oh my gosh!!!!! ahahah..I do NOT agree...why does everyone mention dogs and stuff, obviously that would be a stupid ending but God, she really doesn't NEED to die...It is not necessary, maybe not that much because of herself but atleast because of Four! I mean, omg he cares about her so much, he even says in Insurgent: you die, I die...it's just not right that she dies and he just walkes away, and Caleb will have no other family left so...there a other character that should be REALLY affected with her death so no, I don't agree with that at all...That is my opinion, I'm not arguing xD everyone is free to have their own opinion
No. The ending was unnecessary. It will never ever be necessary. In my head the story ended in the way it should've ended. Tris and Four live a beautiful life surrounded by all the work they did to free their people and Caleb is dead cuz karma for killing his parents and he deserved it. Yup.
I Seriously Hate The Ending. Couldn't Tris And Four Like Be Happy For Once?? When I Think Of The Books, All I Imagine Is That Almost Every Moment They Had To Be Running For Their Lives. Like Seriously! Let Them Be Happy Woman!!
purpleTPurvis She wanted to die when she killed Will but she lived and then when she wants to live and have a life with Four, she dies?!?! Like i get life but thats just cruel. Caleb does not deserve to live whatsoever.
+Lucy Y Yes, I do see where you are coming from, but although I don't agree with what Caleb did, I still think he deserved to live. It was very stupid of him to betray his sister and his family, but he deserved to have time to forgive himself for everything he did. Caleb would've died with Tris not completely forgiving him, but also without forgiving himself. Tris knew that she could survive the death serum with her Divergence, but David just HAD to be there, in that moment. I do still think that Tris shouldn't have died and had a nice family with Four, but I do think Caleb shouldn't have died though. But when you think about it, Tris forgave herself for everything and found out who she was and HOW she was. She found that she showed her Abnegation until her last breath, that she was so selfless that she went through pain and suffering all through her death, just so Caleb didn't have to. She sacrificed herself, Tobias, and her entire life just so that Caleb could live his. I am still pissed off at Veronica for killing Tris off, but I do see her reasons.
i have a huge problem with what theo said and this certainly dosent happen alot it would be a tremendous relief to see fourtris with their kids just thinking about it makes me want to cry
+Elisa Skaggs There is this website that had I think a Interview with the Author and the Director and other people asked if they can change the end of the movie so that Tris will stay alive. They even had a petition about it too. She (the author) says the movie shouldn't end that way. The director says they may be changes to the film and I hope that is one of them and she allows that change.
I do not know why they are not together in real life, but they are fire on the screen.I hope Shailene and Theo find their way back to each other. Their chemistry is amazing!
Although the ending is one of the most sad things I have read, it doesn't mean it is not a suitable ending for the book. I admire the way Veronica implemented this ending into the book and didn't change her mind at the end. The end really shows Tris' loving and selfless nature and also shows that the friendship that develops between Tobias, Christina and Zeke is so strong that in time they will manage to cope with Tris' death and move on together.
Tris shouldn't have died Whats the point of fighting if your just going to die. Like in my eyes this is how it should it end:People of Chicago discover the new world, start building civilization, Tris and Tobias hand in hand say a few lines kiss and the Christina and Peter come and maybe some other friends and Tris ending line is "Lets go see what else is out in the world" (or something like that) Walk off together in some direction like the sunlight depending on the time of day
I think tris dying makes sense . There is price to pay for what you want the most .. I mean how badly u believe in what you say u believe , and to what extent can u go to prove that . Not necessary that u have to die but what if you have to face it , will u back off ?? Is death fearful ...
If anyone has read Four, I feel like she killed off Tris because this story was meant to be about Tobias to begin with. Maybe Roth felt that Tris' POV was no longer fitting and with Tris being a generally selfless character, this was an easy way to lay her down.
i believe tris's death was unnecessary like that did not need to happen and you guys just say it wasnt unnecessary just because its a selfless choice but if you think about it the book would have been so much better and tris and tobias could have had a great life like they deserved
Tris death is unnecessary, she could still have sacrifice for everyone else without having to die; she was going to survive the death serum, why the fuck david had to be in there??
Jessica Gonzalez and you think about it Tris saved him from the other incident she should've let him die OR he could've NOT shot her to begin with cause she saved HIM . What a bitch.
I totally agree with them 100./. I think it's the best ending I have ever read it's heartbreaking,I know but it's real, beautiful and rare. Actually the ending is the main reason that The Divergent trilogy is my favorite and holds a special place in my heart and that will never change !! ;)
Having read the books and watch the films I’m actually going to be doing a creative writing course at university so I was really really able to apply some of the knowledge that Veronica had passed into my personal statement so I’m very very grateful and very happy that I read both divergent and the hunger games
if u pause at 1:47 u see Theo make weird face with his tongue one side and one eyebrow raised its adorable...... it took me so many tries to get a screenshot 😂😂
The same reasson Theo didn't. Tris and Tobias in Insurgent didn't know what's going to happen in Allegiant. They had to think the same way Tris and Tobias did when they didn't know what's going to happen.If they read the book they wouldn't think that way bc they would know what's going to happend.
That makes sense but they are acting. They could still act like they had no idea what was going on, even if they did read the third book and knew every detail.
Laura Cain Because when they are acting they need to act the part they have right in front of them. They shouldn't be acting with thoughts in there mind on "how will this look for the ending" they need to keep there minds open for the "now" parts instead. I can see why they didn't read them. they of course read the books up till the parts they needed at the time. but they don't want to get ahead of themselves.
I don't know if I'll be ready to watch Allegiant when it comes out. .. just thinking about the ending makes me start to get teary eyed. It was devastating. 😩😢
I hope the book Shatter Me I will become a movie and both of them will have the leading role. Oh my God, I think I'm going to die if they perform it together. They are so perfect. Love their love team. Waaahhh!!!
0:49 I am one of Theo James’s secrets mwahahahhahaha I love the way he says that tho 1:18 AWWW VERONICA READS TO YOU. I’m shipping them -with Tris being dead and all- Four is a free man Four said four pages (get it, _get it_) 2:34 woo woo woooo hold the phone “a beautiful decision” to kill of TRIS _your character_ Will they make a movie based on “Four” but it wont really make sense will it....
Although sad, I think Tris' death was completely nessesary because it proves that not all stories end in the same good way, where the main character lives, unimportant people die. It was so sad how she died and I agree with the other comment that said Tris couldnt catch a break before she died. Also, I wanted Tris and Tobias to have kids or something.
everyone who is saying that tris shouldn't have died should read veronica roth's explanation for the ending. it makes complete sense and you'll even agree with her.
I know the death was necessary the ending of hunger games left me feeling weird that it just ends happy, I feel Veronica did the right thing but I found it very hard to come to terms with the fact tris was just dead like after all she survived she’s just dead. I’m finding it hard to start four now tbh
Veronica should've posted an alternative ending and epilogue to allegiant for all of us fourtris fans :)) But I still think it was a beautiful ending like Shay said bc it's true, how many times in life do you see someone sacrifice so much and then at the end just end up living happily ever after? Although it made me sad I was happy knowing that four and Christina were friends bc of there pasts and they continued to support and care for each other bc of there past so as a result they have a friendship more than a relationship bc they still keep Tris and will in their hearts :) just the way I see it
so many people say tris's death was unnecessary, but i disagree. i think the whole of all three books was leading up to it, and the overall theme of it was self sacrafice and how the importance of it comes from its necessity, and it must be done out of love. it started with her mother and fathers deaths, then her killing will, then with the grief (and guilt) weighing her down, she goes to erudite headquarters, where she truly learns about its importance and that she doesnt want to die. then, she sacrifices herself to save caleb, who betrayed her so many times. i think its a beautiful wrap up to that theme, and people shouldn't be so harsh about it. it was sad, but not every story has a happy ending, and when i think about the idea that tris had lived and had a happy life with tobias in the new Chicago, i think that sounds like an awfully boring ending. its a story of love, guilt, grief, and most importantly, self sacrifice.
I'm not watching the finale if they will follow the book! I still cannot accept the fact of four ending alone. I'm still bleeding inside! The book was supposed to give me hope but instead I cried all night, depressed all week and I don't think i can ever move on with this tragic ending!!oh please!!!!! I'm pleading!Give us a worthwhile ending! I LOVE FOURTRIS!!!!!! Im still getting heart suppression whenever I remember Tris dying and Four's reaction on it.. I can't get over this. How can I ever forgive VERONICA ROTH for killing TRIS and leaving FOUR alone and devastated!? I want to enter into the story and just be the one to be shot so Tris will live!I can't stop crying!Help me get this over!!
I love the Divergent books. The 1st film was very good, the 2nd film okay. But they screwed the 3rd film up so badly, that they never made the planned 4th film. They had different screenwriters for all three films, which never made any sense to me.
I understand what choice Veronica Roth made in the ending of Allegiant the book. But when I read that part I was so mad and sad. My eyes were tearing up. And all I could think about Is that if Tobias would ever be able to handle another girlfriend. Because now he's 20(in the book in epilogue)
Tris's death was so stupid. It was so unnecessary. And I don't even feel like Shailene has read the books. In one of the recent interviews, she didn't even know Four's real name.
she doesn't die in allegiant [the movie] because it is the half of allegiance [book] the second part is ascendent which hasn't come out yet and probs never will, if it does it come out it will come as a tv series and not movie. and ascendent probs will never come out.
I felt like Tris's death was kinda unnecessary. Like, seriously tho, I felt like Caleb actually making a sacrifice would justify his character. You know, from all the betrayal stuff that he did, a sacrifice would've been justful. Tris deserved better because he had suffered a lot.
I read the spoilers for allegiant and now wish hadn't coz i don't want to read allegiant now, because if I don't read it, tris won't be dead. I'm really upset that tris died. +Lucy Y I totally agree with your comment and I liked it. If my brother betrayed my family like that I would let him die, so I could be with my true love. Sure, I could have saved him and I'd have to live with that, but I'm not brave like tris and that forgiving. I actually think I'd belong in erudite coz I'm not forgiving or kind, truthful, brave but I am strong, or selfless. Selfless is when you put others before yourself isn't it? Anyway, I'm smart so I'd be with erudite
I don’t care if the ending needs to be realistic. I need to see Tris and Four in the end smoking cigars and hanging out with their kids and their dog, Ruffy.
The way Theo says " I keep secrets " 😂
I think one of his secrets is sheo
+ashley clifford probs
His voice is so deep and....... Deep. Yeah, I couldn't think of any other way to say it. But his voice is deep and like croaky but not sick croaky. Do you get it? Anyway, his voice I'd deep, that's the point
Rachael C I think husky is the word you're looking for.
I thought that Theo was an absolute garbage person to play Four.
I did not want tris to die. I want them to have kid and a dog.
its selfish. Her death would have ruined Tobias’s life, and her other friends’. If Caleb died it wouldn’t have been that big of a deal. It doesn’t make that much sense.
@@RDragon09 Yeah, but at the same time, their whole plan was nonsensical.
The main objective in the books had always been unclear and it still is.
Tris saved David, and then she makes a stupid plan about releasing the serum in the Bureau instead, and that includes sacrificing a person. Couldn't they make a batter plan? All brave, selfless and a Tris having an aptitude for Erudite could think of was to release the memory serum in the Bureau? And everyone agreed with her and couldn't think of anything that's better?
Look, I don't argue on the Tris dying part, that's kind of unique, and it also gave a nice impression to the readers. However, the cause of her death did not make sense. They could've destroyed the Bureau. If Tobias had that so called 'power' to convince Evelyn because she had loved him, they could've convinced the factionless to fight with them. And then there was the Allegiant, led by Johanna (and Marcus) and they both were clever, they would've agreed too. It's not like they made their plans in a hurry, the still had two full days to do everything, and yet they didn't.
And this way, Tris's death could have had more meaning, but what all she died was for a stupid plan of hers. Also, the plot of Allegiant kind of seemed rushed. It was like the author wanted to tell us what's happening just for the sake of it. She miserably failed at the "show not tell" thing.
@Yuna Kaneko Lee Yep, I think that too.
The first book was Hunger Games, the second book was wholly turning cliche, and the third book was a poor rip-off of Maze Runner. Veronica Roth could've made it so much better. I just didn't like the way she told everything, and every character is like, "Okay! Lol we don't care if you've just dumped us in a city for so-called 'experiments' and put on cameras we never were curious on their presence!"
And all the genes thing was also not properly described. Again, the 'show, not tell' thing.
Maze Runner was so much more realistic and better in its motive and plot.
Can people stop, I was sad when Tris died but I agree fully with Shai and Theo. Tris was selfless, and so, as much as I wish it had been Caleb, it makes perfect sense for her to end her life like that. It proves that she is truly selfless and that she loved her brother, despite everything.
Also bc Caleb was not going to get it done bc of how urgently they had to execute the plan as it had to be done earlier than planned. He would never have been able to put the suit on before the soldiers came to shoot him and either way I don't think he would've been able to do it without the suit even since David was there
It's ok to be happy with the ending but still be sad about. I mean veronica couldn't have wrote the ending without thinking ppl r also gonna grieve. It's still a beautiful ending tho
I finished the series within a week of the last book coming out and I was like emotionally depressed for like 2 days (lol) anyway I decided to pick it up and re-read it yesterday and honestly I don't feel any better...
I don't wanna read it, coz I feel like if I read it, she won't be dead
I feel like her death wasn't the worst, it was after when Tobias and Christina found out that got me
Elayna L. Yeah I agree! It was like I didn't really want to believe it when it happened, and then when it set into Tobias and Christina it became real and just tears.
After david shot Tris in the head and I read Tobias's part I yelled at him "SHE'S DAED!!" but I steel believed Tris didn't die... I cried so much
@@elaynarose_ I know I'm 3 years late to this conversation but I really can't fathom that Tobias will ever be happy again, which is what really gets me. I think that no matter who he loves, he won't love them nearly as much as he did Tris.
THANK U! I agree with Shai and Theo! The death of Tris gives her character way more courage and selflessness that really helps the reader understand what the book is about! Even tho I cried every time I read Allegiant doesn't mean that I don't agree with what Veronica decided to write. Honestly, I would not have liked an end in where tris and four have kids and the society is replaced and all is well and bla bla bla. The ending that Veronica gave us leaves the readers thinking "Was it worth it? Would I do that for the sake of my family? Am I brave? Am I selfish?"
Yeah, and it really shows how selfless Tris really is, that even though her brother betrayed her, she is still willing to die for him.
I cried at the end and ya I am barly answering I just fineshed the Divergent book series. And when the movie can out Divergent I was like in first or second grade and I just watched it and I just started seventh grade
Nah its selfish. Her death would have ruined Tobias’s life, and her other friends’. If Caleb died it wouldn’t have been that big of a deal. It doesn’t make that much sense.
But...it was painful for me:")
Yeah, i just wished that if she had to die, at least let her die a better way. Like "defied all odds by surviving death serum, then gets shot." Like if anything, let the die together. "You die, I die." I know not everything is about a love story, but some things are and thats ok.
I actually find the ending quite surprising and a beautiful way to end the series if you really think about it. not every book/movie is going to have a happy ending. otherwise they would eventually get boring
That's true. And veronica roth was even more attached to tris than we were, she created her. People act like she made this character die deliberately trying to upset the fans or something, when in reality the way she died was the epitome of the perfect ending for tris, she did what was necessary and gave the ultimate sacrifice: her life. She wasn't just throwing away her life, she had grown past that stage. She risked it to save everyone else. In a way, it's sort of a happy ending.
Caleb should have went in like they had planned
Carol Montes YES He should have!!! Tris really thought that leaving the world with Caleb was better off then giving the world a Tris and four to make sure shit doesn't hit the fan again? I hate that part. she could do so much more good for the world then Caleb could ever do.
And she wrote it in such a nice way where she see her mom and her mom takes her
TheMattd546 In a nutshell, your mentality is selfish. After reading the series - which I assume you most definitely have - you still don't know Tris. Tris is sacrificial. It's selfish to think that Tris - after all her sacrifices - is still beholden to the world. Tris and Four are not superheroes who can in a snap of a finger stop problems from happening. Secondly, you have too much hate for Caleb. In the end, Caleb, who is intelligent enough can discern that his ultimate redemption is to manifest the positive attributes his family has. It's not their descent's duty to do good in the world. Lastly, do you really believe that Caleb would have been able to press the button before he is killed by the death serum?
Imagine Shai or Theo reading the books and imagining themselves in those situations since they play the characters😂
True but from the way I see them answer questions during interviews, they always talk about it as if they were just reading the stories and not being apart of it themselves but they did watch allegiant together and make fun of each other so for the movie I see it but not so much the book 😂
I still think that tris's death is unnecessary...
when does she die
like how
She gets shot after she survived a death serum..
i think if they kill tris in the movie the world will end for divergent fans
It is not unnecessary. I mean did hope that she would survive because she survived the death serum but it shows that it was her true sacrifice from her earlier attempts to fix things by trying to be selfless
realize: Theo said 4 PAGES. ehh eh??? 🙈😍😂
Illuminati confirmed
Morgan R OHHHHHH I know what you getting at xDD His name is FOUR in the movie (His nickname really)
Morgan R I WAS THINKING THAT XD
Really? ;)
Despite how much the ending made me cry when I read it for the first time, and still makes me cry to this day, as a storyteller I have to admit the ending is incredible. It is beautiful, tragic, powerful and full of meaning. For a story that centered around self-sacrifice it would not have had the same impact if Tris had not sacrificed herself. Not only was she remembered for that bravery but those who loved her had to learn to accept and respect her choice despite the pain of it.
Woah the british accent on Theo is very deep. WOAH
He sexy
i cried a lot after finishing the 3rd book..
Xtelle Song same
Tris and Tobias at the end smoking cigars hanging out with their two kids & their dog ruffy😂😂😂😂
and their dog ruffy!! lmfaooo I love him!!
I think losing the main character really opens many people's eyes and it teaches a lesson to so many people the fact that she sacrificed herself. It taught many people to be selfless and left the reader to love Tris Prior more.
I want to see Allegiant but i also want to avoid it because reading the book i broke down in tears, i can't possibly handle watching the scene actually happening.. i'm not ready for her to go :'(
Brianna Marie Don't worry, I feel the same way:'(
Don't worry about it they'll probably change everything like what they did with Insurgent. Of Tris doesn't die in the movie I won't be surprised
You are so right but a few months later, I watched the movie but I still can’t get over tris’s death in the book even if she doesn’t die in the movie(spoiler)
Brianna Marie dw she doesn’t die in the movie I’m pretty sure
I know this was a while ago but she doesn't die in the movies cause they canceled the last movie
don't stop the divergent series because is awesome
Today I finished reading the series and I feel so emotionally devastated like someone I knew and liked just died and I won't ever see them again.
And I never cry from books. Like ever. Not even from the fault in our stars which is my favorite book.
Inbal Nimri literally that's how I feel! I feel like someone I knew really well just died :(
granted I cried when I finished it though
i threw the book across the room!
Rebecca Brown same here
Erin Taylor So did I. I cryed for 3 months, listening to a song that was based off of the Divergent Series, Pretend It's Home by Beth Crowley, is the name.
aww wow. i finished the book in the airport and it was so embarrassing to cry in public randomly like that Aleah Thorpe
I wish I was one of Theo's secrets ... 😍😊
EVERYBODY WANTS THAT
***** lol
Theo is like the boy gods amen! I will go to church everyday
hes like 35..
Mega Poke Many 19 yr olds and 35 yr olds hook up. LOL
I read all the books and i was pretty satisfied with the allegiant ending. It made the book powerful. I like veronica roths descision. ;)
At first, i didn't think tris's death was necessary, cause i cried so hard, but now, 2 and "something" years after i read "allegiant" it kind of feels right, i wouldn't be happy if they change the ending in the movie... It is what it is, and everything has a reason to be (i would seriously recommend reading the book)
TRIS'S DEATH IS NECESSARY! Gosh! Veronica stated that it was always set from the start and that her journey played out that way to which the ending makes sense. Honestly to say it's not something isn't comprehending properly. And when veronica said she got the ending she dervered, she didn't mean "She deserved to die" she obviously meant that Tris got the powerful ending a person can get, to be remembered for being brave, and strong to save an entire city and future generations after her
agree ... after living the life she did and doing all she did i never saw Tris living the simple life with a dog n kids ya know ... to me, in her mind it would be boreing and to simple. She wouldn't have liked the "simple life".
Yeah I think it will be the most beautiful ending for this story... But I still don't like it in the way that I just really don't want Tris to die😭😂 But I get it, I agree with you. However, I'm still going to cry so hard when I'll see the last movie😂😭
I cried about it, I also cried over other parts too and I was reading the books lol
***** haha I'm currently reading the last book but there were a few assholes in a comment system of the music video for the Divergent movie who were very obviously saying that Tris is going to die. And I wasn't done reading, so now I'm crying because of two things: Tris dies and a few people spoiled it for me😭😂
+BoneStudios15 Oh my gosh!!!!! ahahah..I do NOT agree...why does everyone mention dogs and stuff, obviously that would be a stupid ending but God, she really doesn't NEED to die...It is not necessary, maybe not that much because of herself but atleast because of Four! I mean, omg he cares about her so much, he even says in Insurgent: you die, I die...it's just not right that she dies and he just walkes away, and Caleb will have no other family left so...there a other character that should be REALLY affected with her death so no, I don't agree with that at all...That is my opinion, I'm not arguing xD everyone is free to have their own opinion
No. The ending was unnecessary. It will never ever be necessary. In my head the story ended in the way it should've ended. Tris and Four live a beautiful life surrounded by all the work they did to free their people and Caleb is dead cuz karma for killing his parents and he deserved it. Yup.
I Seriously Hate The Ending. Couldn't Tris And Four Like Be Happy For Once?? When I Think Of The Books, All I Imagine Is That Almost Every Moment They Had To Be Running For Their Lives. Like Seriously! Let Them Be Happy Woman!!
#backstabbinbro
+Luna Valentine So sad that she didn't even have a Sweet 16, then she dies at 16. And the entire 16 year she was running for her life.
purpleTPurvis She wanted to die when she killed Will but she lived and then when she wants to live and have a life with Four, she dies?!?! Like i get life but thats just cruel. Caleb does not deserve to live whatsoever.
+Lucy Y Yes, I do see where you are coming from, but although I don't agree with what Caleb did, I still think he deserved to live. It was very stupid of him to betray his sister and his family, but he deserved to have time to forgive himself for everything he did. Caleb would've died with Tris not completely forgiving him, but also without forgiving himself. Tris knew that she could survive the death serum with her Divergence, but David just HAD to be there, in that moment. I do still think that Tris shouldn't have died and had a nice family with Four, but I do think Caleb shouldn't have died though. But when you think about it, Tris forgave herself for everything and found out who she was and HOW she was. She found that she showed her Abnegation until her last breath, that she was so selfless that she went through pain and suffering all through her death, just so Caleb didn't have to. She sacrificed herself, Tobias, and her entire life just so that Caleb could live his. I am still pissed off at Veronica for killing Tris off, but I do see her reasons.
I'm happy they both agree with the ending. I agree with it as well. It's hard to stomach, but it's necessary.
I have rewind this over one over again just to listen to “ I keep secrets”
i have a huge problem with what theo said and this certainly dosent happen alot it would be a tremendous relief to see fourtris with their kids just thinking about it makes me want to cry
+Elisa Skaggs There is this website that had I think a Interview with the Author and the Director and other people asked if they can change the end of the movie so that Tris will stay alive. They even had a petition about it too. She (the author) says the movie shouldn't end that way. The director says they may be changes to the film and I hope that is one of them and she allows that change.
i hope they make a film about Four before they End it with Allegiant
Yess!
I think Shai and Theo are the only two people that aren’t mad about Tris’ death... I literally cried and threw my book, I was so sad and angry
no me too i cried every night for 4 days 😭. watching the movie w the happy ending made everything alr doe
"with their dog ruffie" oh theo lol
I do not know why they are not together in real life, but they are fire on the screen.I hope Shailene and Theo find their way back to each other. Their chemistry is amazing!
pearlgenuine
I think shai and Ansel are cuter together.. But I guess I'm not able to judge cause I realy like tfios
oh my days i wish tris didnt die, poor four);
Although the ending is one of the most sad things I have read, it doesn't mean it is not a suitable ending for the book. I admire the way Veronica implemented this ending into the book and didn't change her mind at the end. The end really shows Tris' loving and selfless nature and also shows that the friendship that develops between Tobias, Christina and Zeke is so strong that in time they will manage to cope with Tris' death and move on together.
1:15 I love how casually he says that "Oh yeah, the author reads her book to me personally, no big deal"
Tris shouldn't have died Whats the point of fighting if your just going to die. Like in my eyes this is how it should it end:People of Chicago discover the new world, start building civilization, Tris and Tobias hand in hand say a few lines kiss and the Christina and Peter come and maybe some other friends and Tris ending line is "Lets go see what else is out in the world" (or something like that) Walk off together in some direction like the sunlight depending on the time of day
I think tris dying makes sense . There is price to pay for what you want the most .. I mean how badly u believe in what you say u believe , and to what extent can u go to prove that . Not necessary that u have to die but what if you have to face it , will u back off ?? Is death fearful ...
If anyone has read Four, I feel like she killed off Tris because this story was meant to be about Tobias to begin with. Maybe Roth felt that Tris' POV was no longer fitting and with Tris being a generally selfless character, this was an easy way to lay her down.
Who is Ruffy? 😂😂✋ Theo James is so hilarious
I cried for an hour after reading the allegiant ending and still tear up thinking about it
i believe tris's death was unnecessary like that did not need to happen and you guys just say it wasnt unnecessary just because its a selfless choice but if you think about it the book would have been so much better and tris and tobias could have had a great life like they deserved
I totally forgot that Theo was British for a moment. When I heard his voice, I literally started crying! XD
Theo: I KEEP SECRETS.
i felt that
I want a dog named Ruffy too
the divergent Series are the best ! dont Stop it and Please Take the characters 😢
When tris dies in the book it made my cry fo 2 hours straight
Same... I’m broken
Tris death is unnecessary, she could still have sacrifice for everyone else without having to die; she was going to survive the death serum, why the fuck david had to be in there??
Well all good things have to come to an end or a Tobias or Four would say " A flame that burns so bright can't have long"
yep
Jessica Gonzalez He was a bitch. If he wasn't alive, I think the book would have been happier-.-
Jessica Gonzalez and you think about it Tris saved him from the other incident she should've let him die OR he could've NOT shot her to begin with cause she saved HIM . What a bitch.
I hate David as much as I hate the page 250
the interviewer looks like mrs. doubtfire , don't you think ?
Agreed
There's a man under there.
Omg yes 😂
f.a.c.t.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I totally agree with them 100./.
I think it's the best ending I have ever read it's heartbreaking,I know but it's real, beautiful and rare. Actually the ending is the main reason that The Divergent trilogy is my favorite and holds a special place in my heart and that will never change !! ;)
Having read the books and watch the films I’m actually going to be doing a creative writing course at university so I was really really able to apply some of the knowledge that Veronica had passed into my personal statement so I’m very very grateful and very happy that I read both divergent and the hunger games
if u pause at 1:47 u see Theo make weird face with his tongue one side and one eyebrow raised its adorable...... it took me so many tries to get a screenshot 😂😂
It's interesting that they haven't read the books. That surprises me actually. I wonder why she hasn't. She didn't really say.
The same reasson Theo didn't. Tris and Tobias in Insurgent didn't know what's going to happen in Allegiant. They had to think the same way Tris and Tobias did when they didn't know what's going to happen.If they read the book they wouldn't think that way bc they would know what's going to happend.
That makes sense but they are acting. They could still act like they had no idea what was going on, even if they did read the third book and knew every detail.
Laura Cain Shai said that she didn't want to merge the character from the book with the character from the film as they're kind of different. :)
Laura Cain Because when they are acting they need to act the part they have right in front of them. They shouldn't be acting with thoughts in there mind on "how will this look for the ending" they need to keep there minds open for the "now" parts instead. I can see why they didn't read them. they of course read the books up till the parts they needed at the time. but they don't want to get ahead of themselves.
Ah ok, thanks
I don't know if I'll be ready to watch Allegiant when it comes out. .. just thinking about the ending makes me start to get teary eyed. It was devastating. 😩😢
I hope the book Shatter Me I will become a movie and both of them will have the leading role. Oh my God, I think I'm going to die if they perform it together. They are so perfect. Love their love team. Waaahhh!!!
0:49
I am one of Theo James’s secrets
mwahahahhahaha
I love the way he says that tho
1:18 AWWW VERONICA READS TO YOU. I’m shipping them -with Tris being dead and all- Four is a free man
Four said four pages (get it, _get it_)
2:34 woo woo woooo hold the phone “a beautiful decision” to kill of TRIS _your character_
Will they make a movie based on “Four”
but it wont really make sense will it....
we meet again... same type of video.... I have a problem... I am obsessed.
+purpleTPurvis I think the words Divergent and FourTris are going to be written on my gravestone.
I'M SO CONFUSED BY YOUR NAME. JUST BECAUSE JANE GOT TO BE A MORGENSTERN AND A HERONDAL DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE ELSE CAN 😂 SO WHICH ARE YOU?
*Jace
Cried sooo hard at the end xD
Although sad, I think Tris' death was completely nessesary because it proves that not all stories end in the same good way, where the main character lives, unimportant people die. It was so sad how she died and I agree with the other comment that said Tris couldnt catch a break before she died. Also, I wanted Tris and Tobias to have kids or something.
THE Ending Of Alleigent is so sad..oh OMG I cried...I can't belive that happened
everyone who is saying that tris shouldn't have died should read veronica roth's explanation for the ending. it makes complete sense and you'll even agree with her.
Shailene is stunning and Theo.... 😍😍😍
When i read the last book i cried in my room for 10 minutes
Wish they would just make the last movie. I loved this series and it’s just not finished.
Nice interview guys.
I know the death was necessary the ending of hunger games left me feeling weird that it just ends happy, I feel Veronica did the right thing but I found it very hard to come to terms with the fact tris was just dead like after all she survived she’s just dead. I’m finding it hard to start four now tbh
I've told all my friends that when we see it, if she doesn't die at the end, I will just walk out of the theatre and never talk about the movie again.
Veronica should've posted an alternative ending and epilogue to allegiant for all of us fourtris fans :))
But I still think it was a beautiful ending like Shay said bc it's true, how many times in life do you see someone sacrifice so much and then at the end just end up living happily ever after? Although it made me sad I was happy knowing that four and Christina were friends bc of there pasts and they continued to support and care for each other bc of there past so as a result they have a friendship more than a relationship bc they still keep Tris and will in their hearts :) just the way I see it
so many people say tris's death was unnecessary, but i disagree. i think the whole of all three books was leading up to it, and the overall theme of it was self sacrafice and how the importance of it comes from its necessity, and it must be done out of love. it started with her mother and fathers deaths, then her killing will, then with the grief (and guilt) weighing her down, she goes to erudite headquarters, where she truly learns about its importance and that she doesnt want to die. then, she sacrifices herself to save caleb, who betrayed her so many times. i think its a beautiful wrap up to that theme, and people shouldn't be so harsh about it. it was sad, but not every story has a happy ending, and when i think about the idea that tris had lived and had a happy life with tobias in the new Chicago, i think that sounds like an awfully boring ending. its a story of love, guilt, grief, and most importantly, self sacrifice.
I'm not watching the finale if they will follow the book! I still cannot accept the fact of four ending alone. I'm still bleeding inside! The book was supposed to give me hope but instead I cried all night, depressed all week and I don't think i can ever move on with this tragic ending!!oh please!!!!! I'm pleading!Give us a worthwhile ending! I LOVE FOURTRIS!!!!!! Im still getting heart suppression whenever I remember Tris dying and Four's reaction on it.. I can't get over this. How can I ever forgive VERONICA ROTH for killing TRIS and leaving FOUR alone and devastated!? I want to enter into the story and just be the one to be shot so Tris will live!I can't stop crying!Help me get this over!!
I love the Divergent books. The 1st film was very good, the 2nd film okay. But they screwed the 3rd film up so badly, that they never made the planned 4th film.
They had different screenwriters for all three films, which never made any sense to me.
all love for Theo from Egypt .
I understand what choice Veronica Roth made in the ending of Allegiant the book. But when I read that part I was so mad and sad. My eyes were tearing up. And all I could think about Is that if Tobias would ever be able to handle another girlfriend. Because now he's 20(in the book in epilogue)
Omg I cried
Tris's death was so stupid. It was so unnecessary. And I don't even feel like Shailene has read the books. In one of the recent interviews, she didn't even know Four's real name.
U mean tobias
she said she hadn't read the books anyway
she also didn't know tobias last name
Cam B Eaton!?
Other we're just being sarcastic and playing in that interview
Theo: ...and hanging out with our dog...Ruffy 😂😂😂
The end of allegiant fits the theme of the book of selflessness and courage but damn, I’m still gonna be mad about it 😭
OMG right now im waching The Secret Life Of The American Teenager that stars Shayline
and we'll never ever gonna see the ending 😭 because there is no allegiant part 2 😭
Why not release part4 Divergent
Is there going to be a another movie
How could they have .... not read the book....
Did anybody notice the interviewers eyes??? They are like shaking out of control
Same I agree
Did they already cast Amar and George Wu? I really wonder who's gonne play them.
THANK GOODNESS! They screwed up the first two books. I'm glad they didn't change the ending.
i actually thought it was a beautiful way to end such a climatic trilogy
I cried when Tobias found out about This and basically that point on until after they unplugged Uriah... Maybe a bit after that
she doesn't die in allegiant [the movie] because it is the half of allegiance [book] the second part is ascendent which hasn't come out yet and probs never will, if it does it come out it will come as a tv series and not movie. and ascendent probs will never come out.
I still havent finished the book yet!
But if anyone has read the book Four by veronica roth, is it good ?😱
It would be still far better than that cliché ending if four had to sacrifice for his love and future of tris
I wish Jeanine wouldn`t die and she becomes good in the end
I felt like Tris's death was kinda unnecessary. Like, seriously tho, I felt like Caleb actually making a sacrifice would justify his character. You know, from all the betrayal stuff that he did, a sacrifice would've been justful. Tris deserved better because he had suffered a lot.
I read the spoilers for allegiant and now wish hadn't coz i don't want to read allegiant now, because if I don't read it, tris won't be dead. I'm really upset that tris died. +Lucy Y I totally agree with your comment and I liked it. If my brother betrayed my family like that I would let him die, so I could be with my true love. Sure, I could have saved him and I'd have to live with that, but I'm not brave like tris and that forgiving. I actually think I'd belong in erudite coz I'm not forgiving or kind, truthful, brave but I am strong, or selfless. Selfless is when you put others before yourself isn't it? Anyway, I'm smart so I'd be with erudite
still not over the ending
I agree with them about the ending
My reaction:
Peter you still have that butter knife?
Can someone tell me if the movie is split into 6 parts??
Belinda To What? the allegiant movie has two parts, that's all
Inbal Nimri idk someone told me it was split into 6 parts
no the other part of allegiant (ascendant) isgoing to be a tv series the thing with the 6 parts might be true
Dennicam24 But Shailene said she won't take part in the TV show if they made it into one
yep i know i can understand her i wouldnt either
HIS ACCENT!!!
Theo James is like A greek god
TRU DAT!!!
I KEEP SECRETS! omg i died and reresurected
I'm going to continue believing the theory that the death serum was actually just a simulation that she gets out of after the book
I don’t care if the ending needs to be realistic. I need to see Tris and Four in the end smoking cigars and hanging out with their kids and their dog, Ruffy.
Starred in the first and second movie of trilogy and says “I haven’t read the book yet”. You have one job…