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UNDERSTANDING SYD BARRETT || Reaction (First Watch)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2022
- Understanding Syd Barrett - Reaction, Commentary, & Analysis
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Shows how the music industry then and now just crushes talent..
Gilmour was actually Syd's friend BTW.
Gimour met him in his late teens, Waters knew him earlier than that and his mother taught him at Morley Memorial Junior School, they also both wet to Cambridgeshire High School for Boys with Waters. Gimour went to a private boarding school and didn't met him til 1962 at band rehearsels pre Floyd that Waters was part off. Waters and Barrett went to gigs and CND marches together in the 1950's.
I think you will love madcap laughs. Its my fav record, its so badass and charming at the same time. It gets very fragmented towards the end but still beautiful.
this dude down to earth af💯
Respect bro
Thanks man
During Syd's drug binges, it is very possible that he was given drugs in amounts that no one really knows because it was said that these groupie "friends" were spiking his food and drinks.
Mad jock got blamed but mad sue said "we used to feed each other it ,ha". If someone did it might of been Scotty described from the PF road manager back then that he was a Looney lets change the world desperate freak at cromwell rd
@@waynesilverman3048 cromwell road... what a circuslike freakshow that place was from what I heard. I think Syd and Lindsay moved there around April or May when they had more money. By the time they rescued him it was too late. I believe he'd also been given STP/DOM during that fateful weekend at the end of July. He's known to have taken it once in Haight Ashbury, as confirmed by Peter-Wynne-Wilson, their light guy at the time though he'd be replaced soon.
STP hit the UK in July 1967 though, and knowing Syd, he probably was interested in it. I've read a lot about Syd, he even smoked opium in 1965 in a circle, he basically would do what everyone older than him was doing to try and fit in. There were rumors he got into heroin at some point but smoking opium is the only thing he really took.
At the end of the day, and I know from experiencing basically the same thing he did, he would've been fine if he quit LSD entirely. Maybe he did and kept getting spiked, maybe he thought he was feeling healthy enough to take it again. I'm sure you heard the story of him being locked in a linen cupboard while having a bad trip in late 1967. Regardless, what ruined him in the end was the Mandrax.
That had diphenhydramine in it in the UK and Syd would down handfuls, so he might end up tripping on benadryl instead of LSD which I think was the case sometimes... Some people are sensitive to DPH, I have to take a children's dose or else I'll hear shit when I'm trying to fall asleep. It caused hallucinations for me as a child really badly. Real living hallucinations, the kind of stuff you don't see on LSD. I know it's not a mental condition or anything because I've used DMT about 150 times, most of that just being in a 2 month span last year. Have done shrooms many times the past year as well, turned 30 last fall so I think I would've developed something by now. It's just initially when I took LSD, it was like 500 micrograms.
To someone who has never even taken a psychedelic it was far too much. I remember being told they were "double dipped" or something like that and suggested I cut it into half or quarters but a friend of mine took a full tab and was freaking out, so I thought if I take the same dose he'd feel better. Ultimately I spent months having no idea who I was or where I was and it's... it's a long story, but the point is the transformation that Syd went through, I went through too. Severe depersonalization/derealization, something unknown in the 60s
When Syd left the band the rest of the band never forgot him and he was included in all of the royalties - Syd became a recluse for the rest of his life - mental illness really got a hold on him so he just painted for the rest of his life and died sometimes in the 2000's.
That was a very simplistic explanation of what happened with Syd. He left out a LOT of important details as everyone has pointed out.
The more I read about his story the sadder it gets
"now there's a look in your eye,
Like black holes in the sky"
they tried getting him help with his family. but they didn’t want to see what was happening. and the band was so busy trying to fulfill concert dates
Don't worry about Syd! He was actually friends with David Gilmour when they were much younger like teenagers. And David and the other band members took care of Syd in the early to mid 70s as much as they could helping him with his couple of albums he came out with one of them's "Mad Cap Laughs" and the other ones just "Barrett"! They felt terrible leaving him behind and it affected them and affected a lot of their music. Such as the album"Wish You Were Here" which is basically a tribute to Syd! But they made sure Syd got every dime ever coming to him from any album sales and then some. They took care of him very well until his death in 2006! So they didn't do him bad they did what they had to so that the band would survive cuz it just wasn't working!! And it wasn't going to work as bad as Syd was getting!!
Yeah didn't Gilmour help produce "Barrett"? Or am I misremembering
@@LordJuzzie yes David did help him produce his records! In fact through a lot of issues with Syd changing the tunes every time he would play some of them. In fact I think he helped him produce and record "Madcap Laughs" and "Barrett". I read that from one of the guitar magazines.
You saying they could have been more patient with him… that was mostly Roger. David Gilmour was not yet in the band but was a childhood friend of Syd’s, David taught him how to play the guitar. David produced Syd’s solo albums, played on them. David has always felt a deep regret over what happened with Syd. And he was the guy that was brought in to replace his damaged friend. He has always honored Syd in everything he’s done since.
I think he kind of missed the relevance to the song title. Syd wanted out, his ever-changing riff called “have you got it yet” was his cryptic way of saying that he didn’t want to play with them anymore. With everything that preceded that moment, they had been extremely patient with him already.
Fun fact: even though they felt compelled to go on as a band without Syd, all the remaining members agreed to continue paying Syd a share of the royalties from all songs as if he were still an active member up until the day he died.
@@kylebakke594 you sure about that? That would make him fabulously wealthy upon dying. I read that he did get his royalties for the music he was involved with.
@@mikegburnside Yeah, I don't know about all of their work...but David made sure he was still collecting.
The problem about telling a story about Syd Barrett is everyone around him gets his story wrong.
Gilmour was Syd's and Roger's child hood friend, he had been around them prior to Gil joining, when they hadn't really told Syd they kicked him out, Syd would still practice with them and scowl at David, kind of knowing what the deal was.
Another thing that I wanna add the keyboard player said 'no matter what state syd was in he would've always turned up for the gig' ( he did miss a couple but this time they didn't pick him up)but it shows u syd was still dedicated to the band he even showed up with his guitar to b told no way is he gonna play in no circumstances,and he stood up and watched Dave Gilmour s every lick and note he sang which made Dave cringe,Pete Doherty did the same thing when he got thrown out the libertines the 1st time and Danny kirwan did as well but criticised Fleetwood Macs playing
The guy speaking at the beginning of the video is Pete Townshend of The Who. D. Mont get prepared, the early stuff with Syd is very "different." You might have a quizzical look on your face while listening to it. Very experimental and often discordant. Many people love it though. Syd also wrote poetry and was quite a good painter. I'm reading a biography on him now, called "A Very Irregular Head." Personally, I like the later stuff with Dave Gilmour, but the Syd years definitely are appreciated and are a part of rock history. Acid can be very intense; different people handle it differently. And yeah, the narrator's grammar is horrendous. btw, Pink Floyd doesn't block their music.
Mont catches on a bit understanding the trolling, and realizing Syd got fucked.
The LSD dosage was really high in the Sixties. Heroic doses guaranteed some kind of crazy rollercoaster ride. The people who took it days in a row could do real damage to their mental stability. Eventually, you can learn to operate on it, but it's not a good idea.
7 consecutive trips was no big thing back in the day. Roky Erickson, the leader of Texas psychedelicists claimed to take a trip over 400 days straight, and John Lennon was having it for breakfast in '67!
He was also suffering from mental illness also
you are a smart kid,the bands members play on his solo albums
As usual an American presenter messes it up. They played with all 5, with Gilmore basically covering for Sid who was there but wasn't there. They didn't want to cut him out of the band, they figured he could be a writer, more at home and studios, not gigs, one night after several gigs that went bad, they decided just not pick him up for the next one.
Lsd is acid, and yes you need breaks, and the thing is, he most likely taken a lot since you need more to get the same effect. That's why when using psychedelic drugs, one should space it out, so they don't over board and have a bad trip.
The other band members tried to get him help but he didn't want it. All except Nick helped him produce his solo albums and they found it very difficult because of his mental state. He was permanently damaged and would not have been able to keep up with them.
you’re correct it’s lay
LSD or Psilocybin are extremely intense. it doesn't have to be a bad thing though until you either do to much or to often. It can be beautiful, but it can get dark quick. They said syds friends spiked his stuff and that he wasn't even aware half the time that he even toook the stuff... also your intuition is correct at least to me.. they did syd dirty.
Eddie Van Halen is historically the g.o.a.t. he plays in m.j. beat it solo
He was gone for all intensive purposes
'Intents and purchases'
can def take it everyday for a week, not a good idea but i'm here typing this so...shrooms to, don't believe the hype they very different
That's what I was thinking acid is a lot more 'speedy' in a energy way ,passanger on shrooms driver on acid
How many languages can you speak??
I mean, Syd just went away from music business, sad is the part that his friends were a bit harsh on him.
The band did try to help him.
I hate these stories about Syd... he's misunderstood as fuck.
To much responsibility for one person
Syd must of been very bored that week to take acid every day ,he had the Money even tho acid was not cheap in 1967 but pharmaceutical pure ,it wouldn't of done anything by the 4th day even if doubled the dose ,he would of been awake tho
This video has a lot of issues and its timeline is quite wrong. Syd didn't retire from music until 1972 after playing in a supergroup called Stars. He was only with the hangers on in 1967. He was more a pioneer of punk rock too. Vegetable Man is genuine punk rock, criminal it wasn't released then in 1967. As for the LSD for a week straight, pretty sure that's a myth, and even if it's true, LSD builds tolerance so fast that it wouldn't be doing anything anymore.
He was more into hash, his LSD use is played up. This video is honestly not a very good source of things. Roger in particular has kept saying Syd had schizophrenia for years but he didn't, nobody in his entire family had it, he was even hospitalized in the early 80s. His sister had Aspergers and likely their father did too. Read A Very Irregular Head by Rob Chapman if you want an actual really good source on Syd, YT videos just aren't good.
Anyway, Piper at the Gates of Dawn is easily my favorite album of all time and the only PF album I actually really enjoy. Love his solo stuff too. But, any live stuff you can find, like Interstellar Overdrive from 1966/67 in Tonight Let's All Make Love in London on YT, represent what they sounded like the most. Piper isn't a good reflection of that.
Syd Barett und Pink Floyd haben gut zusammengepasst. Er hat Pink Floyd gegründet und bekanntgemacht!! Leider hatte Syd die falschen Freunde gehabt!! Er hang zuviel mit den Junkies ab.. Eine echte Tragödie für Syd und die ganze Familie Barrett.. The Piper... ist eine gute Platte.
Seine 2 Soloplatten hätten besser mit Pink Floyd gespielt werden müssen..
Da wäre die musikalische Verarbeitung besser gewesen !!!
Leider haben sie Syd rausgeschmissen..
Er konnte nicht mehr den richtigen Tonleiter spielen..
Bei seinen 2 Soloplatten war Syd Barett am Rande der Schizophrenie.. Syd war in einer schlechten Verfassung, das sagte David Gilmour.
Traurige Geschichte. Syd war ein talentierter begabter junger Mann. Aus Syd hätte was richtiges werden können!! Er ist als Maler und Musiker gescheitert.
1972 hat er es nochmal mit der Gruppe Stars versucht.. Es hat aber nicht geklappt.. Syd hatte wieder seine Aussetzer.. Leider hat er weiterhin Drogen genommen.. Drogen sind Scheisse, sie zerstören Dein Leben.
Syd hätte lieber eine Therapie beim Psychiater machen sollen,das währe besser gewesen.. Da hätte man noch was retten können.. Roger Waters hat gesagt: Wir haben Syd mit dem Auto 🚙 zum Psychiater gefahren. Er ist aber nicht aus dem Auto 🚙 gestiegen...
Die Psychiatrie war damals noch nicht soweit.. Syd Barett war damals nicht bereit dazu.. Hat Syd jemals eine Therapie gemacht????? Leider gibt es keine Bücher mehr in deutscher Sprache.. Mich interessiert wie Syd mit seiner Krankheit gelebt hat.. Wer weiß was??