После Максимовой, Лопаткиной, Лиепы это испанский стыд какой-то. Где такую коровишну нашли? Хореография - пародия на русский женский танец. Посмотоите хотя бы "русскую" в исполнении Людмилы Савельевой в "Войне и мире" С.Бондарчука th-cam.com/video/70iqNDTjOwI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-VhIdw-AsDE4XvzS
Хореография,костюм, движения не имеют ничего общего с музыкой Великого Чайковского....Он не для этой пляски написал такую гениальную музыку.Можно же посмотреть эталонные выступления великих русских балерин,прежде ,чем танцевать эту версию,она имеет место быть,но это не истинный балет,к сожалению....Но надо отдать должное и спасибо,что этот танец вообще есть в постановке и зрители благодарны за исполнение.
Балерина молодец! Но к сожалению не мое. Русский танец прекрасен тем, что отличается нежностью, легкость, словно плавная река, сменяющаяся шелестом листьев на деревьях, после того как подул ветер. К сожалению много резкости, грузности.
In the original 1877 score, there wasn't a Russian dance. No 19 Pas de six was supposed for Odile (especially Variation 5). But after because the primaballerina requested it, Tchaikovsky composed for her the Russian dance and the later called "Tchaikovsky Pas de deux" as supplementary parts of the score. Both dances were danced in the role of Odile (she would appear for the Russian Dance in with a ribbon-headpiece, according to the book "Bolshoi Confidential"). The Russian Dance is danced quite rarely (it was dropped quite soon because it didn't met the taste of the audience, as it was regarded not "Russian" enough). It is especially used by Grigorovich and Haydee (apart from the Semperoper) for the part as the Russian bride. In Bobrov's production at Krasyonarsk, Odile is completely removed with the "Russian bride", who is the one with whom Siegfried is falling in love in Act 3. The Russian Dance is sometimes seen as solo performance by a ballerina in some Russian tour performances abroad from Russia. So, I think the Russian Dance has some interesting musical connections to Odile (mysterious solo music with vivid closure), but it is not as deep as Pas de six. Parts of the Pas de Six are restored in Grigorovich's production as Black Swan dance. The Black Swan Pas de deux is actually No. 5 (in Act 1) and was originally intended for a peasant girl and the prince/ or two merrymakers. It is actually quite interesting how music can be interpreted very different! At the Semperoper, the Pas de Six (No. 19) is used in Act 1 (instead of Pas de Trois). At least, the Spanish Dance is used as dance for a bride princess (in the Mariinsky tradition, the Spanish Dance is interpreted as Rothbart's minions and instead of No. 19. And 19 (andante con moto) is mostly also recycled as Lakeside Pas de deux between Odette and Siegfried!
@@johnmavin7501 you‘re welcome 🤗; as I‘m dedicated to research on Swan Lake, I‘m happy that my thoughts are helpful. I‘ve posted so far a lot on my channel, yet, as there is so much to get to know and dig deeper, I will anyway have to rework it. I love the Semperoper version, still, there could be more closeness to the original libretto from which it is inspired 😉
Perfect dance, music and cast
Majestic! Sublime!!
Божественно ...
После Максимовой, Лопаткиной, Лиепы это испанский стыд какой-то. Где такую коровишну нашли? Хореография - пародия на русский женский танец. Посмотоите хотя бы "русскую" в исполнении Людмилы Савельевой в "Войне и мире" С.Бондарчука th-cam.com/video/70iqNDTjOwI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-VhIdw-AsDE4XvzS
Хореография,костюм,
движения не имеют ничего общего с музыкой Великого Чайковского....Он не для этой пляски написал такую гениальную музыку.Можно же посмотреть эталонные выступления великих русских балерин,прежде ,чем танцевать эту версию,она имеет место быть,но это не истинный балет,к сожалению....Но надо отдать должное и спасибо,что этот танец вообще есть в постановке и зрители благодарны за исполнение.
And the violinist? Can we know the name?
Brillant one!
Почему не во всех постановках есть?
мощная барышня!
Балерина молодец! Но к сожалению не мое. Русский танец прекрасен тем, что отличается нежностью, легкость, словно плавная река, сменяющаяся шелестом листьев на деревьях, после того как подул ветер. К сожалению много резкости, грузности.
Ужасно . Чья это постановка ? Ни изящество, ни грации, как заведёная бездушная кукла . Лучше русских танцоров нет .
Beautiful! Why is this divertissement so rarely performed?
Also, wasn‘t that actually a variation for Odile? 🤔
I don't know honey. Can you recommend me something similar to that?
In the original 1877 score, there wasn't a Russian dance. No 19 Pas de six was supposed for Odile (especially Variation 5). But after because the primaballerina requested it, Tchaikovsky composed for her the Russian dance and the later called "Tchaikovsky Pas de deux" as supplementary parts of the score. Both dances were danced in the role of Odile (she would appear for the Russian Dance in with a ribbon-headpiece, according to the book "Bolshoi Confidential").
The Russian Dance is danced quite rarely (it was dropped quite soon because it didn't met the taste of the audience, as it was regarded not "Russian" enough). It is especially used by Grigorovich and Haydee (apart from the Semperoper) for the part as the Russian bride.
In Bobrov's production at Krasyonarsk, Odile is completely removed with the "Russian bride", who is the one with whom Siegfried is falling in love in Act 3.
The Russian Dance is sometimes seen as solo performance by a ballerina in some Russian tour performances abroad from Russia.
So, I think the Russian Dance has some interesting musical connections to Odile (mysterious solo music with vivid closure), but it is not as deep as Pas de six. Parts of the Pas de Six are restored in Grigorovich's production as Black Swan dance.
The Black Swan Pas de deux is actually No. 5 (in Act 1) and was originally intended for a peasant girl and the prince/ or two merrymakers. It is actually quite interesting how music can be interpreted very different! At the Semperoper, the Pas de Six (No. 19) is used in Act 1 (instead of Pas de Trois). At least, the Spanish Dance is used as dance for a bride princess (in the Mariinsky tradition, the Spanish Dance is interpreted as Rothbart's minions and instead of No. 19. And 19 (andante con moto) is mostly also recycled as Lakeside Pas de deux between Odette and Siegfried!
played this as percussionist. we would all watch the concert master work his ass off and pay for his drinks afterward
@@felicity1877 thank you so much for your explanation, Felicity! And I‘m sorry for replying so late
@@johnmavin7501 you‘re welcome 🤗; as I‘m dedicated to research on Swan Lake, I‘m happy that my thoughts are helpful. I‘ve posted so far a lot on my channel, yet, as there is so much to get to know and dig deeper, I will anyway have to rework it. I love the Semperoper version, still, there could be more closeness to the original libretto from which it is inspired 😉
Это не русский танец, а пародия...