everyone is commenting how “she’s too late” or “she shouldn’t have tried coming back” but i don’t think there’s any shame in trying to come back. i think it’s admirable she tried again, especially at the age she was at the time. making it to the olympic trials a second time is something to be very proud of and i think it’s great she gave it a go
My heart really goes out to competitors everywhere for those times that they've put in all they had to give and just come up short... I remember Nastias coach with his heart beating out of his chest and already crying saying "World Champion!! I'm telling you!" When she would go on to take all around gold. Moments... some moments will love forever... this was actually one of them to know that she would go from tears of slight pain and more wounded pride/embarrassment, to bounce back with her head held high, silencing any doubts about her place in history forever.
Besides the fall, this routine was actually really good. If she had a few more months of training it would’ve looked more cleaner. Also if she started training during 2010 she could’ve easily added upgrades to make it more competitive for event finals. Maybe even compete in the all around because when she originally made her comeback she was training all 4 events. I wish I could’ve seen her in London 😭
this was the closest routine she did all season ppl may say she shouldn’t of came back but atleast she tried and she did her best and theirs nothing bad about that
Makes you realize how hard these routines really are...when she wasn't properly conditioned, she majorly messed up every single bars routine that she attempted.
@@Sweetlovewhit91to be fair had she started her come back a year earlier, probably would’ve made 2011 worlds and the olympics, her bar routine would have been Inbar half + Healy + ling + Healy 1/2 + geinger Inbar + pak Double front DEEEDDDD - 3.5 + 2.5 cr + .8cv = 6.8, she would’ve been scoring in the mid 15s and a beam in the low 15s too which would’ve been way more competitive than Kyla
@@bryanthan9363 I was thinking if she had enough time she would do her first combo then go into inbar + l-grip 1/1 + layout jaeger + pak like He Kexin in 2012 to make it even more competitive. Idk what the d score would be tho
Thats why she shouldnt have started only a few months prior , she was already a more of an artistic gymnast and even in Beijing and before 2008 she wasnt really known for her endurance and power , especially with her height its hard , her whole bars routine was too much for her , she should have started from the other side of the high bar, only do two pirouettes into the geinger, and take out the tkatchev or connect it to the pak, and only do a double front , it wouldve shortened her routine and give her a chance to make it
toaster oven “routines are simpler at the college level so you don’t need as much endurance” WAIT. WHAT?! I think the reason it seems that way is because in college the team is made up of people from different skill levels. I have seen a few girls and routines that could definitely podium in the olympics. I kinda don’t understand the what and why of what you are trying to say... because Nastia is average height for a gymnast! Also, I don’t believe she got taller after the Olympics which mean the height is nothing new for her. Hitting her foot on the bar has nothing to do with her height! She hit her foot because she had not been training.
She was just not in good enough shape at this point to complete this routine. I know everyone has said this already but if she had started training a few months earlier... 2 clean bars and beam routines would have put some serious pressure on that Kyla Ross spot.
i agree, but at least she tried. she would have lived the rest of her life wondering if she was capable of going to one more olympics, so im glad that she gave it a shot. if she had started training sooner i bet she coulda had more success, but she would have also had to have changed her entire routine to accommodate the 2012 code of points. her bar routine is way too long and exhausting and does not give her a very high difficulty
This is kinda upsetting to watch. They’re trained so hard when they’re young that their body just can’t keep going at the same pace anymore. The culture around training since then has gotten better with pacing gymnasts, and now many gymnasts are continuing elite training well into their 20s. Pauline Schäfer, Ellie Black, Elizabeth Seitz. Gymnasts in their 30s too: Jade Barbosa, Vanessa Ferrari. Gymnasts in the 40s: Oksana Chusovitina … to name a few! Haha
It's easy to judge when we're just spectators. Nastia fought through injuries and surgeries....the amount of endurance, physical strength, plus mental stamina required is nearly superhuman. To have only been back in training for 6 months, she was spectacular. She just needed more time. Her legacy is firmly intact, with OR without 2012.
everyone is commenting how “she’s too late” or “she shouldn’t have tried coming back” but i don’t think there’s any shame in trying to come back. i think it’s admirable she tried again, especially at the age she was at the time. making it to the olympic trials a second time is something to be very proud of and i think it’s great she gave it a go
It's kinda like Shannon Miller trying out for the 2000 Olympics at age 23.
She didn't "make" the trials, she petitioned and was approved.
But the attention was drawn to her when the up-and-coming gymnasts should have been given more attention.
@@hmrhuang yup! She took Skinner’s spot
My heart really goes out to competitors everywhere for those times that they've put in all they had to give and just come up short... I remember Nastias coach with his heart beating out of his chest and already crying saying "World Champion!! I'm telling you!" When she would go on to take all around gold. Moments... some moments will love forever... this was actually one of them to know that she would go from tears of slight pain and more wounded pride/embarrassment, to bounce back with her head held high, silencing any doubts about her place in history forever.
I always believed that she could've been waaay better. She started her comeback too late.
Besides the fall, this routine was actually really good. If she had a few more months of training it would’ve looked more cleaner. Also if she started training during 2010 she could’ve easily added upgrades to make it more competitive for event finals. Maybe even compete in the all around because when she originally made her comeback she was training all 4 events. I wish I could’ve seen her in London 😭
this was the closest routine she did all season ppl may say she shouldn’t of came back but atleast she tried and she did her best and theirs nothing bad about that
Makes you realize how hard these routines really are...when she wasn't properly conditioned, she majorly messed up every single bars routine that she attempted.
Funny thing, if she hadn't stopped training for so many years, she probably would have made the team as a specialist on bars and beam!
For the UB/BB specialist spot I'm sure it would have been between her and Kyla. Glad Kyla made it though
Agree
@@Sweetlovewhit91to be fair had she started her come back a year earlier, probably would’ve made 2011 worlds and the olympics, her bar routine would have been
Inbar half + Healy + ling + Healy 1/2 + geinger
Inbar + pak
Double front
DEEEDDDD - 3.5 + 2.5 cr + .8cv = 6.8, she would’ve been scoring in the mid 15s and a beam in the low 15s too which would’ve been way more competitive than Kyla
@@bryanthan9363 I was thinking if she had enough time she would do her first combo then go into inbar + l-grip 1/1 + layout jaeger + pak like He Kexin in 2012 to make it even more competitive. Idk what the d score would be tho
She wanted to come back too late, she should’ve started when Alicia Sarcromone did
At that point, it was too late. She shouldn't have even tried, smh....
Why did she come back so late? Or did she misjudge herself? I don't understand it. She really had a good chance.
Prollydrunk maybe she thought she was in better shape than she actually was
Honestly tho, what would we do without 2012 Nastia?
@@gifthorse9779 she actually explained that she have a shoulder injury which prevented her from getting back to top shape.
Thats why she shouldnt have started only a few months prior , she was already a more of an artistic gymnast and even in Beijing and before 2008 she wasnt really known for her endurance and power , especially with her height its hard , her whole bars routine was too much for her , she should have started from the other side of the high bar, only do two pirouettes into the geinger, and take out the tkatchev or connect it to the pak, and only do a double front , it wouldve shortened her routine and give her a chance to make it
What do u mean “with her height” she 5 foot 3 inches Kyla Ross is waayyy taller
toaster oven “routines are simpler at the college level so you don’t need as much endurance” WAIT. WHAT?! I think the reason it seems that way is because in college the team is made up of people from different skill levels. I have seen a few girls and routines that could definitely podium in the olympics.
I kinda don’t understand the what and why of what you are trying to say... because Nastia is average height for a gymnast! Also, I don’t believe she got taller after the Olympics which mean the height is nothing new for her. Hitting her foot on the bar has nothing to do with her height! She hit her foot because she had not been training.
She was just not in good enough shape at this point to complete this routine. I know everyone has said this already but if she had started training a few months earlier... 2 clean bars and beam routines would have put some serious pressure on that Kyla Ross spot.
honestly still think kyla would have gotten it, the US needed 2 safe routines and kyla always scored at 15 or higher
I can't even do a somersault, so.
Nastia has always been one of my favorites, but she should have took her 2008 gold and been done.
i agree, but at least she tried. she would have lived the rest of her life wondering if she was capable of going to one more olympics, so im glad that she gave it a shot. if she had started training sooner i bet she coulda had more success, but she would have also had to have changed her entire routine to accommodate the 2012 code of points. her bar routine is way too long and exhausting and does not give her a very high difficulty
Or, she should have started practicing sooner. I believe she didn't have many weeks in the gym before this.
At what point in time did she think that this was a good idea??
at the point that it’s better to try and fail than live a shitty life don’t you think ? since you seem to know a lot about this
It looks like she fell on the dismount because of where the mat was
Yeah I think she slipped off maybe.
No she was supposed to do a half turn
no she couldnt even get her feet underneath her and couldnt do her half turn, had she done that she would have been further out on the mat
at least she tried
yes exactly
This is kinda upsetting to watch. They’re trained so hard when they’re young that their body just can’t keep going at the same pace anymore. The culture around training since then has gotten better with pacing gymnasts, and now many gymnasts are continuing elite training well into their 20s. Pauline Schäfer, Ellie Black, Elizabeth Seitz. Gymnasts in their 30s too: Jade Barbosa, Vanessa Ferrari. Gymnasts in the 40s: Oksana Chusovitina … to name a few! Haha
thats what i said
Hi
Way too out of shape
Fuck it hot mess but still got at 14.050
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when did she think it was a good idea to come back when it was obvious she wasn't ready?
It's easy to judge when we're just spectators. Nastia fought through injuries and surgeries....the amount of endurance, physical strength, plus mental stamina required is nearly superhuman. To have only been back in training for 6 months, she was spectacular. She just needed more time. Her legacy is firmly intact, with OR without 2012.
wtf she do wtf she wants to do
Nice routine until her pak , after no endurance to finish. How can she imagine to be ready on time? she overestimated herself.
I don’t understand why she bent her legs at that handstand, I understand she’s tried but.....
Because she was going to fall the other side.
could you do any better
Sahai Panton yes
That was a mess...
Coach kissy face ruined all practices
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